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Title: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: Gebrochen on November 09, 2011, 11:33:01 AM
Dear Amigans,

Please add yourselves and your main system you use, its free and easy.

http://www.amigamap.com/os.html

According to this website less that 2000 users, and to top it off, less than 100 using OS4.1!

I find this an innaccurate map, so I figured by posting it here, maybe we can add ourselves to this also, and see the numbers CRAWL up!

haha

Cheers
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: Crumb on November 09, 2011, 11:47:40 AM
1. You won't see me there until there are entries to choose MorphOS.
2. There are already various similar efforts like http://map.minimig.net/
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: Gebrochen on November 09, 2011, 11:54:16 AM
Actually Crumb,

if you own a Pegasos 2, then you could enter, and NO, you do not have enter what OS you use on the pegasos 2, that is, if you own one.

BTW, if there is anything similar for MOS or AROS users, feel free to post a link here........

Cheers
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: itix on November 09, 2011, 12:30:51 PM
Just added my Amiga 500 there. Could be nice if there were entries for Macs and Efika. I guess I am going to add those under Pegasos for now.

What are GBA1000, Phoenix and TheRedOne btw?
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: paul1981 on November 09, 2011, 01:13:00 PM
I tried to register the other day but didn't receive the confirmation link.
Has this been fixed yet?
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: Tension on November 09, 2011, 01:26:57 PM
Bollocks. See my sig.
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: jorkany on November 09, 2011, 02:40:22 PM
Quote from: Gebrochen;667111
According to this website less that 2000 users, and to top it off, less than 100 using OS4.1!

I find this an innaccurate map, so I figured by posting it here, maybe we can add ourselves to this also, and see the numbers CRAWL up!

Why do you think it's inaccurate?
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: Duce on November 09, 2011, 02:52:22 PM
I've always just used the http://map.minimig.net/ one, tbh - and I've used that a grand total of 3 times, heh.
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: maw2k on November 09, 2011, 04:50:41 PM
Quote from: Crumb;667114
1. You won't see me there until there are entries to choose MorphOS.

what is this for an attitude? :( I wrote this already, there won't come any MorphOS and C64 stats (for sure separated) until the Amiga part is finished. I get x emails regarding to this. So long you can put just your Amigas in and stop the ignorance.

Quote from: paul1981;667122
I tried to register the other day but didn't receive the confirmation link.
Has this been fixed yet?

you should write to the webmaster :) maybe the email came not true your email server?
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: 560SL on November 09, 2011, 05:43:34 PM
Quote from: Gebrochen;667111
... less than 100 using OS4.1!


Not very surprising to me.


Quote from: itix;667119
Could be nice if there were entries for Macs and Efika.


Yes and PDP-11 too :)
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: marcfrick2112 on November 09, 2011, 07:28:04 PM
OK, I added my A1200 Tower, in the midst of adding my 4000's now....

:)
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: wawrzon on November 09, 2011, 07:54:09 PM
Quote

Why do you think it's inaccurate?

it is inaccurate as long as it doesnt meet the expectations.
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: Kesa on November 09, 2011, 08:16:16 PM
But i don't live on Earth...   :confused:
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: Carrot007 on November 09, 2011, 08:20:34 PM
Seems to lack a postcode (etc...) requirement making the map very dull.

No thanks.

:angry:
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: orange on November 09, 2011, 08:39:44 PM
Quote from: Tension;667123
Bollocks. See my sig.


there were such maps before the minimig.
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: maw2k on November 09, 2011, 08:52:54 PM
Quote from: Carrot007;667179
Seems to lack a postcode (etc...) requirement making the map very dull.

No thanks.

:angry:

explain me this? related to a global count? what have it to do with putting your system there in? I' don't understand some ppls. The page is in a beta state... and i have just 2 hands ...

btw. you can at least for now put your city in your user profile to spot you on the map. AND this is also in a beta state. looks then like this: http://amigamap.com/user/maw2k/?show=map  ....whit this data, i can extend  the actual global map in the future ....

*sigh
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: ajlwalker on November 09, 2011, 09:41:40 PM
@maw2k

Keep up the good work and don't stress too much about the detractors.

Your efforts are appreciated.

I own an A500, A600, A1200 but haven't updated them simply because they are not used any more.  Once I get a permanent home I hope that will change and I will add them then.

By then I also hope to be adding an OS4 netbook and X1000.
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: orange on November 09, 2011, 10:00:14 PM
@ajlwalker

but someone running similar project already would probably see him as 'detractor'.
they can't expect us to register at each and every one.
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: jorkany on November 09, 2011, 10:02:55 PM
Quote from: wawrzon;667176
it is inaccurate as long as it doesnt meet the expectations.


If the expectations are that the numbers should be higher, maybe the expectations themselves are inaccurate.
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: Tension on November 09, 2011, 10:21:43 PM
Quote from: orange;667182
there were such maps before the minimig.


Thats not my page by the way.  The owner made a thread about it when they made it.
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: maw2k on November 09, 2011, 10:50:18 PM
@orange you are registered in just one Amiga forum? If not why? You have more than one Amiga? If yes: why? ....

@ajlwalker thx :)
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: orange on November 10, 2011, 07:38:45 AM
Quote from: maw2k;667195
@orange you are registered in just one Amiga forum? If not why? You have more than one Amiga? If yes: why? ....

@ajlwalker thx :)


forums are different. they don't really need any personal information, and they are actually (much more) useful.
besides, every Amiga forum has its 'specialty'. some are os4 oriented, some classic..

and no, I don't like registering every time at forum, either. for eg, having to choose unique username sux. there were some ideas about universal logins but they seem to have mostly failed.
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: yssing on November 10, 2011, 08:42:43 AM
Add mine, hope that helps
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: Xanxi on November 10, 2011, 10:20:19 AM
I have already added 5 of my amiga computers, that are those in working state these days. The others are either dismounted or not working until further work.
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: takemehomegrandma on November 10, 2011, 12:55:08 PM
Quote from: Gebrochen;667111
According to this website less that 2000 users, and to top it off, less than 100 using OS4.1!

I find this an innaccurate map


Well, this poll (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=59581) shows that both OS4/MorphOS is about 1/3 compared to Amiga ("classic"), and that 54 people (of the people on this site taking part in the poll) is using OS4.

I would consider registering my Amiga's to your map, but as others already have pointed out, your map is inaccurate by design, and there are already several better maps that properly covers the *entire* Amiga scene...

:)
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: maw2k on November 10, 2011, 01:42:54 PM
Quote from: takemehomegrandma;667232
I would consider registering my Amiga's to your map, but as others already have pointed out, your map is inaccurate by design, and there are already several better maps that properly covers the *entire* Amiga scene...

what the hell is inaccurate???? NOTHING!!! it is right now just not every user separately pointed on the map and right now just Amiga listed.

ok and now show me the "several better maps" ....specially those, which "covers the *entire* Amiga scene"

what is in general the problem in the Amiga scene? Somebody start a project. Some guys who think they represent the Amiga scene discuss it until its dead. A couple of month later almost the same guys are yelling the the Amiga scene is dead and nobody is doing anything any more.

and exactly because of ppls like you have also just map.minimig 1257 world wide Amiga owners listed. And they are online since 2009. But maybe this is the "*entire* Amiga scene"that you mentioned?

EDIT:  But now I see:

with a signature like "MorphOS is Amiga done right!" it is for sure that you are the *entire* Amiga scene and pissed of, that MorphOS is still not listed. I didn't knew, that MorphOS represent now the Amiga scene.
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: itix on November 10, 2011, 02:20:39 PM
Quote from: maw2k;667236
with a signature like "MorphOS is Amiga done right!" it is for sure that you are the *entire* Amiga scene and pissed of, that MorphOS is still not listed. I didn't knew, that MorphOS represent now the Amiga scene.


o.O
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: ajlwalker on November 10, 2011, 02:26:50 PM
Quote from: jorkany;667131
Why do you think it's inaccurate?


I don't know why I am bothering, but given that there are 100 X1000s in circulation and each is running OS4.1, then to have only 100 OS4.1 users is clearly inaccurate (given that only 6 X1000 owners have registered on maw2k's map).

If you are a fan of extrapolation, and given that 6% of X1000 users have registered, we assume 6% of all OS4.1 users have registered, then that would put the OS4.1 users around the 1700 mark.

Either way 100 OS4.1 users clearly underestimates OS4.1 usage I am sure you can only agree.
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: ajlwalker on November 10, 2011, 02:29:30 PM
Quote from: orange;667191
@ajlwalker

but someone running similar project already would probably see him as 'detractor'.
they can't expect us to register at each and every one.


Yes, that's not an unreasonable point.  But maw2k's project seems to be evolving and there's nothing like a bit of friendly competition.

He may just hit on something really cool which will make everyone want to register.

It should also be noted it wasn't him that started this thread.
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: maw2k on November 10, 2011, 02:35:26 PM
Quote from: ajlwalker;667239
If you are a fan of extrapolation, and given that 6% of X1000 users have registered, we assume 6% of all OS4.1 users have registered, then that would put the OS4.1 users around the 1700 mark.

but OS4.1 runs not just on a X1000.

I dont know if its a good idea, but I could make an icon to show separated stats for os4. On the same way I can put then also MorphOS in.
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: Crumb on November 10, 2011, 05:02:02 PM
Quote from: maw2k;667236
I didn't knew, that MorphOS represent now the Amiga scene


If it runs on real Amigas, runs Amiga binaries, and it's Amiga like for me it's Amiga for sure.
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: krashan on November 10, 2011, 05:23:16 PM
Quote from: maw2k;667236
with a signature like "MorphOS is Amiga done right!" it is for sure that you are the *entire* Amiga scene and pissed of, that MorphOS is still not listed. I didn't knew, that MorphOS represent now the Amiga scene.

But it is a part of it. And now your map in obvious way favours AmigaOS 4. You have to decide if you want to have only map of classic Amigas, or map of machines that can run AmigaOS 4, or maybe the complete map of all AmigaOS and derivatives. If you want to reject MorphOS from your map, I'm perfectly fine with it, I'll just won't register there. But then stop complaining on low number of entries... You like it or not, huge part of Amiga scene is on MorphOS now. It has nothing to do with pissing anyone. It is just a proof of MorphOS technical advancement and hard work put into it by its developers. Being rude will not change it a tiny bit.
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: maw2k on November 10, 2011, 07:10:30 PM
and i said already that it will be integrated. :) so just wait guys :)

ps. I'm not rude but when i read some comments .... instead of making some suggestion some user talk everything dead because it doesn't fit right now in there own schematic. The project is still beta and I said already that some things will come, which are missed from ppls. It is my free time what I spend for it and my wife is not happy about :D
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: takemehomegrandma on November 10, 2011, 07:49:50 PM
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Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: maw2k on November 10, 2011, 08:29:12 PM
and I'm sorry if my words was rude in some eyes. This was not my intention. I think we all know how it is, when you work for something that you like and then are some who see just bad things and nothing good even the thing self is not even finished.

thanks
M.

ps. And a good news: http://www.vesalia.de posted it as news :)
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: maw2k on November 11, 2011, 03:10:24 AM
http://amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?p=667384#post667384
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: Gebrochen on November 15, 2011, 01:00:21 PM
@maw2k

thank you for your creation, I believe once youve had the time to add MorphOS and AROS to your map, it may become the real map that everyone will be adding to in future.

I have spread your amigamap to a few other forums thus far :

amigaworld
amigans
amiga.org
os4welt
amigajoker.de
amigafuture.de

cheers

I will also, sometime in the next 2 weeks place my totally updated links page on my website, and include your map, potentially on every page.

cheers and thank you for your support to the community.
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: Gebrochen on November 15, 2011, 01:04:03 PM
@ Amiga COmmunity

Are there any international speaking amigans that have posted from viewing this here or at one of the other forums ive posted?

If so, I would find it highly amazing if you guys, spanish, french, dutch, etc, etc, etc, could also post on your local forums the map, Id really like to see how much we can get this to grow.......even if not everyone can participate at the moment!

Cheers and thank you all for your support
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: maw2k on November 15, 2011, 04:09:23 PM
thx for your support. Both MorphOS and Aros are included now. I work right now to finalize the user page to show all the details from each system but I need a bit time.

regards
Mario
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: Dwyloc on November 15, 2011, 05:36:52 PM
@maw2k
Good to see MorphOS and AROS added as I use AROS on a little ASUS netbook and would like to get a MorphOS system to add to my sam440ep to give MorphOS a try as well.
Title: Re: AmigaMap, Why so little entries?
Post by: Gebrochen on November 19, 2011, 01:49:05 PM
Quote from: maw2k;667965
thx for your support. Both MorphOS and Aros are included now. I work right now to finalize the user page to show all the details from each system but I need a bit time.

regards
Mario


No Probleme man.

Im even going to have it under my links section, haha, and perhaps HOME / Index page of ourw ebsite eventually.

Go AMIGA Community!!!!!!!

THanks