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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: bbond007 on October 24, 2011, 08:51:48 PM
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http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/11/10/23/2312219/hyperion-promises-an-amigaos-netbook
interesting...
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Running what processor? PPC? Those things would melt.
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Running what processor? PPC? Those things would melt.
There are all sorts of PPC chips from Freescale (macs) which run efficiently and cool. They don't have to use the IBM server version of the chip :)
I think AmigaOS on a netbook is a fantastic idea and could totally reinvent the OS - as long as they price it like a netbook.
Nobody is going to buy a $1000 netbook...
It might be nice to have a fast-booting, efficient OS on a netbook that works well with the smaller screen resolutions.
_nate
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Nobody is going to buy a $1000 netbook...
It might be nice to have a fast-booting, efficient OS on a netbook that works well with the smaller screen resolutions.
_nate
It was announced at AmiWest to retail for around $300-$400US. I can't remember what was said about the specs on the netbook, but the guy representing Hyperion mentioned an SSD disk.
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See main thread here (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=59523).
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Turns out Genesi had a go at these very same netbooks a few years ago. It makes for an interesting cautionary tale. Thanks to r.r. over on moobunny for digging up this info:
http://www.powerdeveloper.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1478&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30
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Raquel and Bill
(bbrv)
Genesi
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:46 am
It is a long story and it is not over yet. Basically, we developed a plan for a family of devices with MTC/THTF in 2007 (LOI and Forecast - by the way, MTC/THTF used this same forecast with Freescale). We worked a few months on this. The objective was to leverage all the software and community support created around the EFIKA. We developed a comprehensive agreement which was *also* signed by MTC/THTF. When the chip samples finally arrived in September 2007 (three months late), we began working with them diligently. The goal was to show something at CES 2008. Unfortunately, in about 45 days we knew that the chip was not going to be able to get the job done for the devices we had defined because of the lack of cache-coherency (the 5200B on the EFIKA supports cache-coherency). Freescale had not informed us of any changes. This was a shock to all of us. The 5121e is suited to many potential applications, but not a full-scale desktop machine or a fully functional mobile device. Significant software modifications would be required. When we brought this information forward MTC/THTF (and Freescale) they did not want to accept this information/proof. MTC/THTF decided to do it themselves and ignore the alternatives we proposed. MTC/THTF discarded our agreement; they had no intention to respect it. They said they had hundreds if not thousands of software engineers that could solve all the problems. This is when we decided to post the LOI and Forecast. It was at this time the LimePC was born (formally it was called MyMate or the EFIKA). MTC/THTF hired an EFIKA Projects developer selected by reviewing the information on this site and flew him to China. For a time, he led the team. They worked feverishly, but ended up at CES with handheld devices that did not work. The desktop and television demo systems worked, but were actually not using the chip at all. They used standard PCs hidden under the booth. These false systems are what MTC/THTF used to sell CherryPal on the concept, which then CherryPal used to raise some initial money and create a website full of misrepresentation about the chip and the devices that can be built using it.
More later...
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:36 am
We seriously doubt the 5121e CherryPal or LimePC will ever see any serious commercial success or even ship more than a few hundred units if even that many. MTC/THTF tried to get everybody involved to do everything for nothing. In fact, that is what they really have today: nothing. CherryPal is in the same boat. CherryPal's investors bailed because neither CherryPal or MTC/THTF could deliver on all the promises they made.
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:57 pm
The 5121e was not designed with a desktop or mobile consumer device in mind (though you could build a acceptable thin client out assuming it was to be supported by enough bandwidth and you were willing to invest in customizing the required software). Unfortunately, hundreds, if not thousands of developers have suffered because of this lack of disclosure. That is our grievance. This is much more of a 'people' issue vs. a technical one.
It seems we all agree now where the 5121e is best directed and where it is not. It is too bad we could not have worked closer together and much more complementary when it would have made a bigger difference.
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:07 pm
Hi Folks, please check the date. That is the cover of a 48 page document that Genesi developed for MTC/THTF. With the exception of MorphOS, they have done pretty much as we outlined in the marketing requirements document for 'Lime.' And, now MTC/THTF will try to create their own version of PowerDeveloper. As far as we can tell, they have never had an original idea of their own. Their business practices are shameful. The management has absolutely no sense of ethics. The manner in which they have treated a number of the developers involved is unforgivable. We have nothing but contempt for the CEO. The Executive management of Freescale has been fully appraised of the situation.
We have worked with Freescale on the 5121e extensively. After MTC/THTF disregarded our agreement, they went on to basically screw everyone else involved. That includes Freescale, because they have over-promoted the capabilities of the chip and continue to hurt its reputation in the marketplace with their exaggerated claims.
We have LimePC/CherryPal and LimeBook units -- they are not commercially viable. The LimePC is the CherryPal with a different logo. CherryPal does not have a cloud and they don't have money. MTC/THTF is trying to sell the LimeBook to users in China that don't know any better. It is a mess.
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Has it been confirmed yet that A-EON is in fact talking about the LimePC line? Just curious.
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Has it been confirmed yet that A-EON is in fact talking about the LimePC line? Just curious.
A-EON? How are they related to this?
Anyhow, it's is the only laptop fitting the specifications mentioned.
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Duh, you're right, my bad.
Still, while it seems like a reasonable inference, I'm just curious to know for certain.
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Duh, you're right, my bad.
Still, while it seems like a reasonable inference, I'm just curious to know for certain.
Supposed to be released Q1 2012 so maybe we will know by 2013!
Seriously though, have you taken a look at a picture of a LimeBook? There's absolutely no logo on the cover at all. Perfect to just slap a boingball or anything else on. Maybe the circular area (red in this image) would be a good spot:
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4136/4907924946_ca32f5227e_b.jpg)
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Yeah, that says "OPEN FOR BRANDING, PLEASE CALL" all right...what the hey is all that stuff down in the trackpad area?
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Maybe the circular area (red in this image) would be a good spot:
That might be the power button (popular area lately with Dell and Sony for those.) Wouldn't want your boing ball rubbing off!
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Yeah, that says "OPEN FOR BRANDING, PLEASE CALL" all right...what the hey is all that stuff down in the trackpad area?
I wondered about that myself! I just googled "limebook" images and there are several of the type pictured above, but then there are some like the one shown here:
http://xueyou.en.alibaba.com/column/207579044/Quality.html
I think the one shown at alibaba is the real or perhaps current LimeBook. Teh real!
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That might be the power button (popular area lately with Dell and Sony for those.) Wouldn't want your boing ball rubbing off!
I wouldn't want any part of my computer rubbing off ¬¬
http://xueyou.en.alibaba.com/column/207579044/Quality.html
"Our company provide the good quality . we have the FCC, CE certification ."
Really inspires confidence, that.
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Man that netbook in the pic is ugly as sin, lol.
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Seriously though, have you taken a look at a picture of a LimeBook? There's absolutely no logo on the cover at all. Perfect to just slap a boingball or anything else on. Maybe the circular area (red in this image) would be a good spot:
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4136/4907924946_ca32f5227e_b.jpg)
If that's the same case design that the Amiga netbook is going to use then I'd be very happy, I think it's a very neat design with good lines, it is the same case that my A1600 Aros netbook has and it's quite comfortable to use, the keys are traditional ones rather than those horrible flat-faced ones that have become the fashion. I removed the silly stickers from mine straight away.
(http://home.exetel.com.au/~amiga/CammyNetbookLook.JPG)
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Yeah, I don't think it's a bad design, aesthetically - just not so sure about what's going into it.
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The 5121e?
Uh oh.
Freescale should have canceled that one.
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The 5121e?
Uh oh.
Freescale should have canceled that one.
Why? The 512x line of processors is pretty neat. But it's a line of processors for embedded things, especially for the automotive world and there especialy Delphi/GM (AFAIK). Only mistake is to think they are desktop processors - but Freescale never claimey they were.