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Title: EasyNet problem?
Post by: carvedeye on October 15, 2011, 12:20:14 PM
Hi all ive just installed easynet onto my amiga 1200 so that i can add it to my network using a PCMCIA wireless card, the installation went fine but as soon as i start up easynet and click go online i get a popup syaing "AmiTCP/IP version 3 or later must be started first" .I was under the impression that as soon as you installed and configured easynet you could go online it says during the installation that it installed AmiTCP/IP 3 onto my miggy am i doing something wrong?
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: carvedeye on October 15, 2011, 12:56:47 PM
Anyone?
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: Thomas on October 15, 2011, 01:21:20 PM
Open a support ticket at AmigaKit.
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: Duce on October 15, 2011, 02:49:31 PM
Quote from: Thomas;663594
Open a support ticket at AmigaKit.

Opened 3 of those trying to get the back plate for my SAM 440ep, as well as sending emails.  Still don't have it 2 years later.

I hate to slag off normally reputable Amiga vendors, but the service after the sale was over on my SAM was absolutely unacceptable with this company..
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: amigakit on October 15, 2011, 04:43:53 PM
@CarvedEye

Did you have a previous TCP/IP stack installed such as Genesis?  If so you may well have assigns setup for that which are conflicting.  

@Duce
This is off topic:  sending an email to sales for an after-sales subject is not the correct department - you will get an auto-response email indicating this (it is also explained on the Contact Us page).  If you require a backplate, you need to checkout with the backplate product and put in the order comments your original order number of the SAM hardware.

This is the product advertised on our webstore with the instructions:
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=957

There is no need to open support tickets or contact us, simply checkout with the item above on your next order.
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: carvedeye on October 15, 2011, 05:02:14 PM
No I have done fresh install of aos 3.9 so there is no other stack present other than the one installed with easynet?
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: amigakit on October 15, 2011, 05:09:35 PM
What EasyNet assigns are in your s:user-startup ?

It could well be that the assigns do not correlate to where you have actually installed EasyNet.
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: carvedeye on October 15, 2011, 05:16:44 PM
AmiTCP assigns, as the installer says it will make these changes?
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: carvedeye on October 15, 2011, 10:32:52 PM
any one got any ideas?
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: amigakit on October 15, 2011, 10:40:15 PM
Sorry, you did not answer my question.

I need to know exactly where you have installed EasyNet: location on your hard disk and text of your s:user-startup file

Also please goto the Help menu and select "Configuration Help.." option and post the output generated.

This diagnoses problems.
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: carvedeye on October 15, 2011, 11:57:33 PM
@amigakit

Ok i have installed easynet to my work partion but i dont know how to copy s:user-startup file and post it on here and i dont know how to post the output for Configuration Help, sorry i am hopeless when it comes to amiga's i am almost on the verge of giving up on everything amiga as i just have no luck with them :(
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: carvedeye on October 16, 2011, 12:26:11 AM
here is a video of me trying to configure and install easynet if im doing it wrong then please tell me.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-cLSZl565Y
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: carvedeye on October 16, 2011, 06:58:49 PM
bump
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: amigakit on October 16, 2011, 07:54:50 PM
You did not fill in the Network Domain Name section of Network Settings- that is why there is still an alert icon next to this field.
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: carvedeye on October 16, 2011, 08:11:12 PM
is that the same as local domain name? if so then that field is blank in my router setings.
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: utri007 on October 16, 2011, 08:21:46 PM
It can be anything, just type something to it
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: carvedeye on October 16, 2011, 08:34:47 PM
Ok here's what i have done i have entered my amiga's IP as 192.168.0.6, i Have entered my netwrok mask as 255.255.255.0, Gateway is my router IP which is 192.168.0.1, Amiga's Host Name is Amiga, Netwrok domain name is 192.168.0.1 (same as my router IP) my DNS Address is (Again) 192.168.0.1. If I have done something wrong please tell.
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: carvedeye on October 16, 2011, 09:21:51 PM
Quote from: amigakit;663720
You did not fill in the Network Domain Name section of Network Settings- that is why there is still an alert icon next to this field.


How do find out what my Network Domain Name is?
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: bbond007 on October 16, 2011, 09:28:29 PM
make something up
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: carvedeye on October 16, 2011, 09:37:16 PM
is my network domain name cable.virginmedia.net (EasyNet will not let me type cable.virginmedia.net as it is to long) or is it virgin.net? Please i really want to get my amiga online through my wireless adaptor :(
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: carvedeye on October 16, 2011, 09:48:29 PM
ok i have entered virgin.net as the domain name, started easynet and clicked online, it then says going online then says it says it is accessing live update server and then it says it is online, i then launch Aweb but when i try to enter websites it says it "error while retrieving url: http://www.google.co.uk" "cannot open file "work: aweb3se/cache/awecd2a/0000006a" any ideas?
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: amigakit on October 16, 2011, 10:11:22 PM
Type the following into AWeb's web address bar:

http://64.17.172.249/support/online.html

If you get the online message, you are successfully connected to the internet and need to review your DNS settings only.
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: carvedeye on October 16, 2011, 10:33:52 PM
still nothing? i will do another video of it connecting and will also show what settings i have and talk through what i have done.
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: OldB0y on October 16, 2011, 10:36:02 PM
As you appear to be using Virgin,  try using their DNS server IP addresses rather than the routers IP in the DNS address box(s).  Theses are:

194.168.4.100
194.168.8.100

If easynet doesn't allow you to put more than one entry in, just use the first one.
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: OldB0y on October 16, 2011, 10:44:08 PM
Also, have you tried pinging your router once easynet says its online?  Its been a while since I last used it, but I'm pretty sure the Easynet installer installs AmiTCP's ping and traceroute commands.  

Bring up an Amiga shell window, and type ping 192.168.0.1  

If you get replies, you are connected to your Network at least.  If not you will get either 'destination host unreachable' If you have no connectivity at all, or 'request timed out' if you have partial connectivity but there is some configuration problem.
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: bbond007 on October 16, 2011, 10:52:51 PM
Quote from: carvedeye;663736
ok i have entered virgin.net as the domain name, started easynet and clicked online, it then says going online then says it says it is accessing live update server and then it says it is online, i then launch Aweb but when i try to enter websites it says it "error while retrieving url: http://www.google.co.uk" "cannot open file "work: aweb3se/cache/awecd2a/0000006a" any ideas?

sounds like aweb is messed up with its cache. also check its assign in user-startup

re-install it or try the ibrowse demo.
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: carvedeye on October 16, 2011, 10:53:44 PM
Yeah ive already tried that but still no luck im uploading a video of how i have set it up.
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: Tension on October 16, 2011, 11:25:22 PM
Quote from: amigakit;663599
sending an email to sales for an after-sales subject is not the correct department - you will get an auto-response email indicating this (it is also explained on the Contact Us page).


How many people work with you? How many departments do you have?
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: carvedeye on October 16, 2011, 11:27:30 PM
any chance of link to the ibrowse demo? i have tried 2.4 with mui 3.8 but it seems you need a ful version of 2.x?
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: carvedeye on October 16, 2011, 11:38:23 PM
ok here is the video of easynet take a look and see what you all think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNY2gBJyg88
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: utri007 on October 16, 2011, 11:53:00 PM
If you put virgin.net to your domain, then any virgin.net domains woun't work.

You need to figure something your own, it needs to be something like a addsfasdfkjfsn.local or what ever you want, but not any real domain.

Otherwise you config seems to be ok

Problem seems to be AWeb, try to reinstal it or change cache location?

Can you access any other www pges? Or is it google only wich doesnt work?
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: bbond007 on October 16, 2011, 11:59:54 PM
Quote from: carvedeye;663752
any chance of link to the ibrowse demo? i have tried 2.4 with mui 3.8 but it seems you need a ful version of 2.x?


http://www.ibrowse-dev.net/download.php
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: carvedeye on October 17, 2011, 12:00:02 AM
i cant access any www pages? i will try changing my domian and see how it goes.
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: carvedeye on October 17, 2011, 12:29:33 AM
Quote from: bbond007;663760
http://www.ibrowse-dev.net/download.php


That version requires 2.3 to be installed first as I have already tried that version :(
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: bbond007 on October 17, 2011, 01:26:35 AM
Quote from: carvedeye;663770
That version requires 2.3 to be installed first as I have already tried that version :(


pretty sure thats where I got mine.
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: carvedeye on October 17, 2011, 11:56:01 PM
Quote from: OldB0y;663740
Also, have you tried pinging your router once easynet says its online?  Its been a while since I last used it, but I'm pretty sure the Easynet installer installs AmiTCP's ping and traceroute commands.  

Bring up an Amiga shell window, and type ping 192.168.0.1  

If you get replies, you are connected to your Network at least.  If not you will get either 'destination host unreachable' If you have no connectivity at all, or 'request timed out' if you have partial connectivity but there is some configuration problem.


Ihave pinged my router here is a pic of the results.
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: OldB0y on October 18, 2011, 10:36:05 PM
Quote from: carvedeye;663902
Ihave pinged my router here is a pic of the results.

Just re-installed Easynet to give it a go for you.  You're not getting any replies, which means you are not connected to your router.  I got the same result by pulling out my Ethernet cable (I have a PCMCIA ethernet card rather than a wireless one).

The settings you have in your video look pretty similar to mine.

From another computer that is connected okay, double check the router IP you have is correct. On a Windows PC, bring up a DOS prompt, type 'ipconfig' or 'ipconfig /all' and check the gateway address.  On a Mac, its very similar, bring up Terminal (in applications/utilities), at the prompt type 'ifconfig'

If all the settings are correct, connect to your router from your PC/Mac etc, and check the wireless settings.  The card you have might not like working in a multi mode environment (eg having both 802.11b and 802.11g enabled).  Try setting the router to 802.11b only, as this is almost certainly all the card will support.  Before doing so though, be aware that if your PC etc is using wireless it may not like 802.11b!  You may find you need to re-set the router or use an ethernet cable if your PC loses connectivity at this point.
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: utri007 on October 18, 2011, 11:05:06 PM
Can you turn encryption OFF temporarily from your WLAN box?

If your amiga is configured right, it connects nearest unenecrypted wlan automatically, IF you are not configured encryption and wlan sid to AMI TCP

This just to testing purposes
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: Tension on October 19, 2011, 12:40:13 AM
It's around this point that most sane people would go 'f u c k   i t' and just give up.
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: carvedeye on October 19, 2011, 12:55:39 AM
Quote from: Tension;664019
It's around this point that most sane people would go 'f u c k   i t' and just give up.


I am very close believe me :(

Quote from: utri007;664010
Can you turn encryption OFF temporarily from your WLAN box?

If your amiga is configured right, it connects nearest unenecrypted wlan automatically, IF you are not configured encryption and wlan sid to AMI TCP

This just to testing purposes


I will give it a try and let you know how i get on :)
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: carvedeye on October 19, 2011, 12:19:32 PM
Quote from: utri007;664010
Can you turn encryption OFF temporarily from your WLAN box?

If your amiga is configured right, it connects nearest unenecrypted wlan automatically, IF you are not configured encryption and wlan sid to AMI TCP

This just to testing purposes


Well tghat did not work either :(
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: don27dog on October 19, 2011, 12:40:51 PM
Quote from: carvedeye;663729
Ok here's what i have done i have entered my amiga's IP as 192.168.0.6, i Have entered my netwrok mask as 255.255.255.0, Gateway is my router IP which is 192.168.0.1, Amiga's Host Name is Amiga, Netwrok domain name is 192.168.0.1 (same as my router IP) my DNS Address is (Again) 192.168.0.1. If I have done something wrong please tell.


Try assigning your Amiga 192.168.0.106 it has been a while but I remember having problems with one of my routers not liking anything manually assigned under 100 as the router used those for dchp. As soon as I assigned the amiga higher than 100 everything worked fine.
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: Tension on October 19, 2011, 12:45:27 PM
@AmigaKit.
Fancy answering my question?
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: carvedeye on October 19, 2011, 11:01:26 PM
Quote from: don27dog;664058
Try assigning your Amiga 192.168.0.106 it has been a while but I remember having problems with one of my routers not liking anything manually assigned under 100 as the router used those for dchp. As soon as I assigned the amiga higher than 100 everything worked fine.


Thanks will give it a try :)
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: carvedeye on October 21, 2011, 10:11:29 AM
Well i have completely given up, it just does not want to play but thanks to everyone who helped, EasyNet? easy my arse :(
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: yssing on October 21, 2011, 01:37:13 PM
Ive personally installed easynet on 3 different amiga, with 3 different setups. A1200 with PCMCIA network, cabled thoug, maybe you should try that. As I never got a wireless to work. Also on an A4k with XSurf and on an A2K with hydranet, and they all work flawlessly.

I dont know if you use DHCP, but if you do, try using a static IP instead.
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: yssing on October 21, 2011, 01:42:36 PM
Also, are you 100% sure your router is using WEP encryption?
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: carvedeye on October 21, 2011, 03:22:37 PM
Yes my router is using wep encrytion
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: carvedeye on October 21, 2011, 03:25:59 PM
Ive got connected through an ethernet card now so will just use that instead. is it normal for me to have to plug in the ethernet adaptor after AmigaOS 3.9 has loaded up as i would really like to leave the card in permantly?
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: bbond007 on October 21, 2011, 03:58:25 PM
Quote from: carvedeye;664395
Yes my router is using wep encrytion


Try and set the KEY to 26 digit HEX code for the WEP. I'm also running dd_wrt on my router. I was never able to get my amiga to connect to a ClearSpot router even without WEP.  If you can't get it to work see if your router supports dd_wrt. Depending on your router, installing dd_wrt can by very simple(if you are lucky), or rather complex and in that case, if you don't follow instructions to every detail you may irreversibly brick your router.  

That is what I did to make mine work. My wireless NIC (from Amigakit) even works great with ShapeShifter.

Under the Amiga I have samba set up so I can attach to shares on my mac and windows7 notebook. its pretty nice :)

good luck

-nate
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: Tension on October 21, 2011, 05:28:46 PM
Quote from: Tension;664060
@AmigaKit.
Fancy answering my question?


Khat got your tongue?
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: carvedeye on October 22, 2011, 05:40:57 PM
Quote from: carvedeye;664396
Ive got connected through an ethernet card now so will just use that instead. is it normal for me to have to plug in the ethernet adaptor after AmigaOS 3.9 has loaded up as i would really like to leave the card in permantly?


Anyone?
Title: Re: EasyNet problem?
Post by: bbond007 on October 22, 2011, 06:35:50 PM
For that you need the cardreset program or the PCMCIA reset device from Amigakit.