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Title: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: XDelusion on October 14, 2011, 06:19:07 AM
[youtube]s1RsvEm7UrU[/youtube]

I agree.
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: Kesa on October 14, 2011, 06:20:37 AM
A big fluffy beard!
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: Argo on October 14, 2011, 07:18:37 AM
Because it's 2011 and we're all barbarians!
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: commodorejohn on October 14, 2011, 07:48:57 AM
Because it's cool, dammit!
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: rockape on October 14, 2011, 09:14:31 AM
Hi XDelusion,

Fun !!!


Regards, Michael

aka rockape

Founder member of LAG

See   http://lincsamiga.org.uk/
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: C64er on October 14, 2011, 12:27:57 PM
Because I want to, wanna fight about it? :-)
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: yssing on October 14, 2011, 12:46:59 PM
Makes me want an AOS4 machine even more.
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: JimS on October 14, 2011, 02:12:35 PM
Why Not? ;-)
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: runequester on October 14, 2011, 02:21:10 PM
Because it was there and we wanted to see what would happen :)
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: fishy_fiz on October 14, 2011, 02:42:27 PM
'cos I want to :)
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: smerf on October 14, 2011, 03:07:04 PM
Hi,

I use my Amiga to keep my important data.

Has not crashed since 1992 (unless I made it crash by accidentally formatting) but with lharc and Directory Master, I was able to reinstall quickly from backups.

Funny how Amiga takes a lickin and keeps on clickin (Amiga disk drive, HMMM I don't think PC's have them anymore).

Hopefully I haven't made any personal attacks on anyone!!

smerf
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: drwho on October 14, 2011, 04:02:13 PM
I've always been a fan of the classic hardware, so, I haven't looked at OS4 much. This is really impressive.

I was especially struck by how well it ran old native applications and they were still true to the original Amiga look and feel.

Hmmm ... maybe it's time to build myself a modern Amiga :-)
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: Iggy on October 14, 2011, 04:35:13 PM
Because I like the quick boot times (and Steve Jobs and Bill Gates were/are nobs).
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: tone007 on October 15, 2011, 11:39:45 AM
(http://hphotos-iad1.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/305378_205371162867024_100001824257203_476554_626105063_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: persia on October 15, 2011, 04:02:33 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QxiWJjG7hDc/TaNYm65ljfI/AAAAAAAADYg/8drL29XmDaQ/s1600/GoldenCalf2.jpg)
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: Housey on October 15, 2011, 04:45:11 PM
Great videos from this guy. I posted this one in my blog and had over 5,000 hits in one day LOL... seems my link was posted on a couple of big news sites. Best traffic I've ever had and spread the Amiga word :)
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: gertsy on October 15, 2011, 05:52:58 PM
Because it weighs the same as a duck?
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: inoel on October 15, 2011, 07:09:56 PM
my mum told me to!
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: Amiten on October 15, 2011, 08:24:58 PM
Because to me is more than a computer.

(http://amiten.webatu.com/e107_images/newspost_images/AmigaLagoon.jpg)
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: Drummerboy on October 15, 2011, 08:37:26 PM
Its the best "AMIGAble" OS.

In the Video.. WOW! nice refrigerator!!-

Hehehe.. Its a Joke! Nice Machine!. - I am Keep getting Amiga User!
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: klx300r on October 15, 2011, 10:19:17 PM
because I can:afro:

nice video btw
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: ChaosLord on October 15, 2011, 10:51:00 PM
Because it keeps my time machine running and holds the fabric of the universe together.
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: runequester on October 15, 2011, 11:35:39 PM
Quote from: ChaosLord;663639
Because it keeps my time machine running and holds the fabric of the universe together.


Only amiga makes it possible :D
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: Thorham on October 16, 2011, 01:35:38 AM
Because Amiga rocks and peecee sucks :)
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: squidbass on October 16, 2011, 09:34:51 AM
Nice vid - made all the better as you use one of my old tracker tunes to demo it from around 95, I think...made my day thx. squidbass formerly known as coneripper :-)
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: Wolfe on October 16, 2011, 09:41:34 AM
I must interject . . . .

The question should be "Why not use Amiga in 2011?"  Why be a drone ?
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: persia on October 16, 2011, 01:36:06 PM
"Mommy? Daddy? Sasquatch? Why is the world all spinny and magnets?"
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: Jeff on October 16, 2011, 02:02:38 PM
Nice Video!  I own a Flex and Morph Lic'ed mini and I still haven't had time to sort out what would run best on which platform.  Very Helpful!
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: amoskodare on October 18, 2011, 03:25:26 AM
Because I want :afro:
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: Bamiga2002 on October 18, 2011, 07:11:15 AM
Amigas = freedom & customising
+ they are a getaway from common and boring PC usage. And my Amigas do what I want them to do, not the other way around. I'm the Mastah! :hammer:
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: persia on October 18, 2011, 01:34:01 PM
Familiarity, it really doesn't do anything better or faster than a modern computer, but it reminds me of my youth and this pleases me.
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: obscurepanic on October 18, 2011, 03:02:13 PM
1. Efficient web-browsing
2. Minimalism
3. Customizable features
4. Loves the weird pseudo-kernel concept in AmigaOS
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: spirantho on October 18, 2011, 03:15:29 PM
Same reason I've always used an Amiga - I enjoy it. And no amount of people yelling about how OS4 is overpriced or underpowered or whatever is going to change that! :)
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: Delta on October 18, 2011, 03:21:43 PM
Great video, it was the first time I witnessed MorphOS and AROS working.  The neutrality of his speech is excellent, it made me confirm that I want an OS4 machine.  

The Macmini Morphos option is awesome but only if I get the mac for free ;)  I do like Acube's hardware and I will keep winbloze7 on my PC for gaming so my only question now is: When will the X1000 official price be announced so I can faint and choose a SAM460 instead?  ;)
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: obscurepanic on October 20, 2011, 06:23:31 PM
I read an article with a short mention on the Amiga.

http://www.pcworld.com/printable/article/id,162106/printable.html

I thought about this. BINGO! The whole Amiga experience is a tightly-knitted subculture. An awesome subculture in 2011.
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: klx300r on October 20, 2011, 06:28:35 PM
Quote from: spirantho;663961
Same reason I've always used an Amiga - I enjoy it. And no amount of people yelling about how OS4 is overpriced or underpowered or whatever is going to change that! :)

+ 1:afro:
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: Ral-Clan on October 20, 2011, 06:55:07 PM
For MIDI music composing.

Development of MIDI sequencers kind of plateaued and stalled sometime after DAW (digitital audio workstation multitracking software) hit the market.  After that, MIDI sequencer software didn't get any R&D time, so they didn't get better - and actually may have gotten slightly worse (latency) with all the abstraction layers between the hardware and software on current OSes.

Bars & Pipes on the Amiga is still the best MIDI sequencer and the fact it bangs the hardware directly makes the Amiga a great, tight, MIDI composing tool.

Also, with trackers and the Paula chip, some consider the Amiga a musical instrument with a distinctive sound.  You don't just stop using an old instrument especially when it has character (like a Les Paul guitar or a vintage tube amp) - you use it because of its special sound (and that's something that even emulators can't copy - even though I am big fan of UAE).
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: XDelusion on October 20, 2011, 07:09:50 PM
One thing I will say about the guy who did the review, is that he apparently has not spent much time with OWB in AROS and MorphOS as he claims here that they are nearly on par...

funny funny. ;)
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: commodorejohn on October 20, 2011, 07:22:11 PM
Quote from: ral-clan;664246
Also, with trackers and the Paula chip, some consider the Amiga a musical instrument with a distinctive sound.  You don't just stop using an old instrument especially when it has character (like a Les Paul guitar or a vintage tube amp) - you use it because of its special sound (and that's something that even emulators can't copy - even though I am big fan of UAE).
Damn straight!
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: XDelusion on October 20, 2011, 07:46:52 PM
Quote from: commodorejohn;664254
Damn straight!


:)
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: danwood on October 20, 2011, 08:42:11 PM
Quote from: XDelusion;664250
One thing I will say about the guy who did the review, is that he apparently has not spent much time with OWB in AROS and MorphOS as he claims here that they are nearly on par...

funny funny. ;)


I did say in the video, I'm least familiar with AROS out of all Amiga-flavours. It was really just to "show it", I'm much more experienced with MOS/OS4 to be honest.
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: XDelusion on October 20, 2011, 09:21:47 PM
Whoops, I just hit "send report" by mistake. :)

Anyhow...

I'm just nit picking of course, and as usual I mist do my part to stand up for MorphOS when ever possible. :)

In regards to the video as a whole...

Outstanding!! Which is why I felt compelled to share it here and on Facebook. :)
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: smerf on October 21, 2011, 01:58:48 AM
Quote from: XDelusion;663482
[youtube]s1RsvEm7UrU[/youtube]

I agree.



Hi,

I disagree,

A mini mac running MorphOS is just another MAC running an emulation program, it is in no way associated with an Amiga. As a matter of fact, why does some one want to insult the Amiga name by saying it runs on a MAC. Everyone with a head on their shoulders know that even an old Amiga is better than a MAC.

MAC = Misusing Amiga Community

The only thing I would use a apple product for is a doorstop.

If you want to use a MAC go to a MAC site and tell them how good MorphOS is there.

No more MAC's

smerf
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: XDelusion on October 21, 2011, 02:21:12 AM
I suppose you could fork out over $1000 for a machine that happens to have the Amiga logo on it...

I think Piru might be able to set you straight on those emulation comments.

As for me, I love all varieties of Amiga. I just don't like to see one project dissed when it should be exulted, and another exulted when in fact it is still in what many would consider beta stages. Tie a sad game of mythology some people like to play in order to over hype things that show potential, but have not quite hit that certain mark yet.

Not to say that Dan is guilty of mythologizing of course, his comment was an honest mistake as he stated.
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: commodorejohn on October 21, 2011, 03:03:53 AM
Quote from: smerf;664280
A mini mac running MorphOS is just another MAC running an emulation program, it is in no way associated with an Amiga. As a matter of fact, why does some one want to insult the Amiga name by saying it runs on a MAC. Everyone with a head on their shoulders know that even an old Amiga is better than a MAC.

MAC = Misusing Amiga Community

The only thing I would use a apple product for is a doorstop.
I'll reserve my dislike for Apple corporate for the products they're actually selling, thanks. These days the G3s and G4s and G5s are as cast-aside and underappreciated as any Amiga hardware, while the cultists chase after the latest bit of shiny being dangled along on a string by the marketing department. So what does that make them? Solid PPC hardware at bargain-basement prices, that's what. And frankly, I'm okay with that.
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: djrikki on October 21, 2011, 03:41:42 AM
Quote from: Delta;663963
Great video, it was the first time I witnessed MorphOS and AROS working.  The neutrality of his speech is excellent, it made me confirm that I want an OS4 machine.  

The Macmini Morphos option is awesome but only if I get the mac for free ;)  I do like Acube's hardware and I will keep winbloze7 on my PC for gaming so my only question now is: When will the X1000 official price be announced so I can faint and choose a SAM460 instead?  ;)


The official price of the X1000 was announced 1 hr ago. :afro:
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: XDelusion on October 21, 2011, 04:30:36 AM
Quote from: commodorejohn;664285
I'll reserve my dislike for Apple corporate for the products they're actually selling, thanks. These days the G3s and G4s and G5s are as cast-aside and underappreciated as any Amiga hardware, while the cultists chase after the latest bit of shiny being dangled along on a string by the marketing department. So what does that make them? Solid PPC hardware at bargain-basement prices, that's what. And frankly, I'm okay with that.


As am I, and trust me, my hate for Apple knows no end...

...though I must admit, I do kind of like my iPod, though I can't say it's improved the quality of my life any, despite what the advert enticements say. ;)

“Through the computer, the heralds say, we will make education better, religion better, politics better, our minds better — best of all, ourselves better. This is, of course, nonsense, and only the young or the ignorant or the foolish could believe it.

― Neil Postman


BTW, for anyone who thinks I'm an AROS or OS4 hater, and a MorphOS elitist...

I will tell you this. When or if the day comes that AROS or OS4 gives MorphOS a run for its money, I for one will not hesitate to boast about their achievements!!!
Title: Re: Why use Amiga in 2011?
Post by: actung_bab on October 21, 2011, 05:20:13 AM
thnaks was well done and very enjoyable watch