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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: JesterDev on January 05, 2004, 02:05:57 AM

Title: 1084S-P known problems?
Post by: JesterDev on January 05, 2004, 02:05:57 AM
Are there any known problems with this monitor? I have a few, and use them for just about everything from watching tv, to playing my nes. I also use it for my amiga of course.

I just want to prepare for any problems that might arise just incase.
Title: Re: 1084S-P known problems?
Post by: Elektro on January 05, 2004, 04:07:41 AM
yeah sooner or later they stop working...









 :-D
Title: Re: 1084S-P known problems?
Post by: odin on January 05, 2004, 04:09:05 AM
elektro....helpfull as ever :crazy:.
Title: Re: 1084S-P known problems?
Post by: cybereye on January 05, 2004, 04:30:53 AM
Yes the 1084 evetunally drops out the red color very often. We had 2 with this symptom, but we just sold one. I've seen others do the same thing.
Title: Re: 1084S-P known problems?
Post by: Damion on January 05, 2004, 04:55:33 AM
Both of mine still work perfect, and one of them
has seen fairly heavy use, even surviving
a heavy impact from it's previous owner.

Unfortunately, my 1802 didn't fare as well...

-edit-

As far as known problems, they seem to be few
and well-documented. A quick google should find
you some sites.
Title: Re: 1084S-P known problems?
Post by: Wain on January 05, 2004, 05:13:04 AM
There have been some (occasional) issues with solder-joints on the power supplies, but I've got one right here that's working great.
Title: Re: 1084S-P known problems?
Post by: JoannaK on January 05, 2004, 05:32:16 AM
Due it's age those electrolytic capacitors may dry out.. This can be usually detected as incleased Humming (50/60Hz) noise on sound.

But IIRC most typical issues were cold soldering on Flyback transformer and Power supply.. And some of those monitors had notoriously weak power swithes, the tend to break on normal use.. These tend to cause flickering, sensitivity to shock and total non-working.


Title: Re: 1084S-P known problems?
Post by: amigakid on January 05, 2004, 06:31:09 AM
well any known probs besides the normal age/wear thing has been mentioned already, but hey take care of it and u should still have many yrs of use (mine is 12yrs old now an works great:)
Title: Re: 1084S-P known problems?
Post by: THEWASP on January 05, 2004, 06:34:06 AM
My switch went out on mine years ago. Just wired it ON and continue to use it that way. Has worked fine for me.


THEWASP
Title: Re: 1084S-P known problems?
Post by: Castellen on January 05, 2004, 06:34:21 AM
The ones I've worked on usually have dry/cracked solder joints on the 9 way D-range connector at the rear of the monitor.
Movement of the monitor cable creates stress fractures on the solder joints.

As mentioned above, dry joints on the line output transformer are also very common, and possibly the same for the chopper transistor and other power devices.

One of my 1084S dropped the red colour as Cybereye said.  That resulted in a yellow coloured display.  Been too slack to look at this one yet :-)
Does anyone know a quick fix to this common problem??
Title: Re: 1084S-P known problems?
Post by: Framiga on January 05, 2004, 12:21:25 PM
Quote
by Elektro on 2004/1/5 5:07:41

yeah sooner or later they stop working...


yes . . like our #### too :-)

Anyway, i own an A1081 (19 years old, once repaired 10 years ago) and an A1084 working both.

The strange is that the 1081 works better than the younger 1084.

Both uses same chassis but different CRT.

The chassis used by those monitors, are rock solid and easy to fix (any TV set technician can do the job) exept the external trimmers/knob and switches. . . .a little technical miracle IMHO :-)

Ciao

PS- i've forgotten . . . Wellcome back to AOrg . . .JesterDev :-D
Title: Re: 1084S-P known problems?
Post by: Framiga on January 05, 2004, 12:41:26 PM
Hi Castellen

beleive me . . .if you aren't be able, with a very cheap repairs, every TVset technician, is be able to fix it. (could be a simple dry/cracked solder joints or the matrix IC)

An european seller, sells 1084S NOS at 125 EUR . . .so!

Pity that i've lost the occasion, when Vesalia (some months ago) sold some M1438 NOS for only 54 EUR :-( . . . .sold out ALL at the speed of the light

Ciao

Title: Re: 1084S-P known problems?
Post by: mikey2001 on January 05, 2004, 12:56:32 PM
@ Castellen

I had a Microvitec Multiscan which dropped its red colour and the problem is solved by a slap or two on the side or top of the monitor - not the most technical solution, but it works!  :-o
Title: Re: 1084S-P known problems?
Post by: cybereye on January 05, 2004, 01:20:13 PM
Slap it on the side a few times. That usually works for a short period of time. After a while slapping doesn't help anymore though.
Title: Re: 1084S-P known problems?
Post by: amigamad on January 05, 2004, 01:56:56 PM
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Slap it on the side a few times. That usually works for a short period of time. After a while slapping doesn't help anymore though.


When that happens do you then have to kick it. :-D

I only have 1 amiga monitor and that is a philips cm8833 mk2 that cost me 8 pound very good tube its like new picture wise. :-)
Title: Re: 1084S-P known problems?
Post by: Lo on January 05, 2004, 03:40:18 PM
I have a C= 1080 monitor from 1985. (Same as 1084 but mono, not stereo) It has been shipped around the world a few times but still works!  The only mods I made were to drill holes to access the focus pot and vert height (to play pal games)  I 'd like to know who actually made this monitor, as it is so sturdy.
Title: Re: 1084S-P known problems?
Post by: HopperJF on January 05, 2004, 04:10:26 PM
i've had a commodore 1084S for about 3 years although the monitor itself says june 1991 on the back sticker. it is still going ok, although it seems to get pretty hot after just half an hour of the power light being on (whether this is normal for these monitors or not i dont know) and a friend of mine has a similar monitor although his power switch is at the front, so whether on later models commodore put the power switch on the front, or whether its just his being a slightly different model i also do not know. but i have had no colour problems whatsoever (except for that time when it accidentally got hit onto greenscreen  ;-) )
Title: Re: 1084S-P known problems?
Post by: Ilwrath on January 05, 2004, 04:21:20 PM
Hmm... 1084.  Oh trusty monitor.  I used one for many years, as did several friends.  They do run a bit hot, which I believe helps speed up the "solder joint" ailment showing itself.

Other than that, a pretty rock-solid monitor.  I never used the power switch on mine (had one of those switched surge protectors) so I never had a switch problem.  If you buy the model that has the controls on the front, the front door to the controls is rather delicate.  About half or more of the 1084s in that model will be missing the door.  ;-)
Title: Re: 1084S-P known problems?
Post by: xeron on January 05, 2004, 04:25:24 PM
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Lo wrote:
I 'd like to know who actually made this monitor, as it is so sturdy.


I'm not sure, but it wasn't a Commodore exclusive. I have an Acorn Archimedes branded monitor, which is obviously a 1084S, but not labelled as such. I use it with my Amiga 1500 and 1200 :-)
Title: Re: 1084S-P known problems?
Post by: mikey2001 on January 05, 2004, 04:30:11 PM
Yeah my 1084 now sadly doesnt posess a front door so to speak! Still works fine after all this time though...  :-)
Title: Re: 1084S-P known problems?
Post by: HopperJF on January 05, 2004, 04:38:04 PM
mine has fell off a few times but they are relatively easy to put back on  :-)
Title: Re: 1084S-P known problems?
Post by: Lo on January 05, 2004, 04:58:27 PM
  When my 1080 dies, I'll sell the door on ebay  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: 1084S-P known problems?
Post by: mikey2001 on January 05, 2004, 05:01:56 PM
@ HopperJF

I would if I could!  ;-)  :lol: Unfortunately, it has been lost in the midst of time and the second hand user market!  :-)
Title: Re: 1084S-P known problems?
Post by: JimS on January 05, 2004, 06:09:06 PM
I'm looking at the pictures of the mainboard silkscreen in the service manual and it says Toshiba. Which is strange, because I thought it was Daewoo. Between Daewoo and Phillips, they made the 1084's.

-Jim
Title: Re: 1084S-P known problems?
Post by: Elektro on January 05, 2004, 08:06:38 PM
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odin wrote:
elektro....helpfull as ever :crazy:.


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