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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Topic started by: SysAdmin on September 22, 2011, 05:17:06 PM
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If you thought a SAM system or X-1000 was expensive, well you would be wrong. CUSA's upcoming Amiga line will cost up to $25,000! Pictures or specs for these systems has not been released yet. More information via the link below.
http://www.commodore-amiga.org/forum/27-commodore-usa/8551-phone-call-with-barry?lang=en#8569
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ahh, they even got forum, how cute!
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Is this a joke? April is 6 moths away!
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Is this a joke? April is 6 moths away!
No joke!
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Just for sake of comparison, this is what 25 grand will buy you elsewhere
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16859105799
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Ah, but remember, according to dammy if you haven't picked out the exact same components then any value/cost comparison is totally invalid! After all, I worked up a PC that was better than the original top-of-the-line C64x for less than the cost of the original base-line model, but since I didn't use the same parts it doesn't count at all!
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Ah, but remember, according to dammy if you haven't picked out the exact same components then any value/cost comparison is totally invalid! After all, I worked up a PC that was better than the original top-of-the-line C64x for less than the cost of the original base-line model, but since I didn't use the same parts it doesn't count at all!
"its expensive because we use expensive parts, see? So that actually makes it not expensive at all"
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:insane:
:laughing:
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I'm sorry, this is ridiculous. If SGI was still in business and doing what they did so well* I could see $20k for a desktop workstation-class PC. Putting together the most expensive commodity parts and saying "That's worth it" is just crazy.
For what its worth, I just "built" a PC at newegg with these specs:
OCZ Colossus 2 Series OCZSSD3-2CLS960G 3.5" 960GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - $2,419.99
CORSAIR Vengeance 24GB (6 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 $164.99
Thermaltake TP-1500M 1500W ATX 12V v2.3 & EPS 12V v2.92 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply $369.99
SMK-LINK VP6342 Black RemotePoint Wireless Navigator Suite $219.99
RAZER Black 7 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB Optical/Laser Mamba 2012 Elite Ergonomic Wireless Gaming Mouse $119.99
PLEXTOR Black Blu-ray Disc Burner SATA PX-B940SA-11 $159.99
Intel Core i7-990X Extreme Edition Gulftown 3.46GHz LGA 1366 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80613I7990X $999.99
ViewSonic CD3225 Black 32" Large Format Display $669.99
SILVERSTONE Black Aluminum Crown Series CW03B-MT ATX Media Center / HTPC
$699.99
ASUS Rampage III Black Edition LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Extended ATX Intel Motherboard $559.99
PNY VCQ6000-PB Quadro 6000 6GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Workstation Video Card $3,999.99
I deliberately chose some "outrageous" stuff, like a case with a 10" LCD monitor built in, a 32" "monitor" (really more of a TV that does 1900x1600), a $4000 "workstation" video card, and so on. Fine, it's not a "slim-line slot-load" blu-ray burner, but so what? Add $150 to the price to "make it fair", and so what? That's an insane workstation class system for well under $20k with features like the 2nd display on the case and whatnot. What, other than more hard drives could C=USA possibly offer? What? A "custom OS"? What Linux Mint distro will it come with then?
Let's face it, unless Barry is planning on opening a factory or at the very least having truly custom hardware built by big vendors for tight integration so you effectively wind up with a modern, SGI class machine and not a big gaming rig, I cannot fathom any workstation rig being worth $20k.
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*=the SGI legacy lives on in nVidia and ATi cards as I am told many ex SGI engineers found work there, indeed some were headhunted prior to SGI's demise.
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If you thought a SAM system or X-1000 was expensive, well you would be wrong. CUSA's upcoming Amiga line will cost up to $25,000! Pictures or specs for these systems has not been released yet. More information via the link below.
http://www.commodore-amiga.org/forum/27-commodore-usa/8551-phone-call-with-barry?lang=en#8569
Oooo, I like this quote from the page.
remember, this is NOT a cheap pc, Amiga never was...and it certainly can't be one now.
In the (proper) Commodore era, Amiga had the best price-performance ratio on the market. This is madness.
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So...who am I going to buy my new engineering workstations from?
1. A foul mouthed A**hole making chinese trinkets and a furniture making background for 22,000.
OR
2. I buy HP Z800 workstations fully loaded for 8 grand a piece and backed by a company with a proven track record.
Hmm....
This is just beyond the absurd. They moved into "milk whats left of whatever profit we have already got, if any" territory really quick.
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$25k? Is that all? Great, I'll swing by in my helicopter and pick up one or two ASAP.
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If you thought a SAM system or X-1000 was expensive, well you would be wrong. CUSA's upcoming Amiga line will cost up to $25,000! Pictures or specs for these systems has not been released yet. More information via the link below.
http://www.commodore-amiga.org/forum/27-commodore-usa/8551-phone-call-with-barry?lang=en#8569
Wait, there is said just the case is $1000?
And they say AmigaOne boards are expensive :-)
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I am curious when and why their strategies have changed.
First time around they were making these Amiga boxes for the "retro" market, with intentions of their own rebadged distro with integrated emulation.
Now they are taking a shot at the high, high end content development market. Where does the "Amiga" fit into that? Are you telling me that for $25,000 I'll get a "high end graphics machine" running reskinned Linux and UAE on it? I can just imagine Pixar waiting with baited breath to put in a 20 million dollar order. The "Amiga" name doesn't mean squat to the people that would be in the market for these high end machines.
Listen, we've all seen the Amiga brand be raped and defiled in front of our eyes for many years, and while I quite enjoy the hysterical nature of all this - I'm confused as to why they would suddenly figure that going from bargain basement $600 commodity hardware stuffed into custom cases to $25,000 machines is the logical step. And even if that made sense, why would anyone choose these systems over the big boys with 24/7 on site support and millions of customers worldwide?
There's 1001 vendors making systems like this, and not just the big guns like Dell. It's like Yugo putting leather seats, nice stereos and burl walnut trim in their economy cars and figuring it's time to take out Rolls Royce.
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I am curious when and why their strategies have changed.
First time around they were making these Amiga boxes for the "retro" market, with intentions of their own rebadged distro with integrated emulation.
Now they are taking a shot at the high, high end content development market. Where does the "Amiga" fit into that? Are you telling me that for $25,000 I'll get a "high end graphics machine" running reskinned Linux and UAE on it? I can just imagine Pixar waiting with baited breath to put in a 20 million dollar order. The "Amiga" name doesn't mean squat to the people that would be in the market for these high end machines.
Listen, we've all seen the Amiga brand be raped and defiled in front of our eyes for many years, and while I quite enjoy the hysterical nature of all this - I'm confused as to why they would suddenly figure that going from bargain basement $600 commodity hardware stuffed into custom cases to $25,000 machines is the logical step. And even if that made sense, why would anyone choose these systems over the big boys with 24/7 on site support and millions of customers worldwide?
There's 1001 vendors making systems like this, and not just the big guns like Dell. It's like Yugo putting leather seats, nice stereos and burl walnut trim in their economy cars and figuring it's time to take out Rolls Royce.
While CommodoreOS would certainly make C64x/VIC users happier,
yes, you are right, it will have no effect on the higher priced CUSA "Amiga" range.
Well, even the Yugo never went that road. Last was discontinued in 2008
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I am curious when and why their strategies have changed.
First time around they were making these Amiga boxes for the "retro" market, with intentions of their own rebadged distro with integrated emulation.
Now they are taking a shot at the high, high end content development market. Where does the "Amiga" fit into that?
Here's my theory: Barry, incensed and disappointed that his $600-1500 generic Atom/i7 machines were not setting the world on fire as he fantasized, decided that the thing to do would be to set his sights on a market where people are used to paying lots of money for a machine. Surely, $1,000 extra for a case/brand-name tax would not be missed in such a purchase!
Of course, what he's completely missed is that proven track records and quality service (of which CUSA has neither) have a lot to do with the willingness to drop $5K-20K on a workstation. But that's okay, he can make up for that with his fabled business chops! Shine on, you crazy diamond!
(The reference there is to imply that Barry, like Syd Barret, must have ingested copious amounts of controlled substances to come up with what he has. The difference is that in Barry's case, it's not meant as a compliment.)
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Here's my theory: Barry, incensed and disappointed that his $600-1500 generic Atom/i7 machines were not setting the world on fire as he fantasized, decided that the thing to do would be to set his sights on a market where people are used to paying lots of money for a machine. Surely, $1,000 extra for a case/brand-name tax would not be missed in such a purchase!
(The reference there is to imply that Barry, like Syd Barret, must have ingested copious amounts of controlled substances to come up with what he has. The difference is that in Barry's case, it's not meant as a compliment.)
Hmmm ... man has got the cow (both Commodore and Amiga stickers and logos, except for Boing Ball displayed sometimes on the website) and got to milk it to the max. Now, verry glad Amiga Inc has lost the court case and limited itself to tablets n cows
Quite psychadelic yes, and reminds me of Barry calling me "stoned" :-)
Everything good takes time to build, eveything notworthy shall fade away
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Sounds like they're trying to do the old "recoup all of our development costs in a single sale" trick.
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Wait, there is said just the case is $1000?
And they say AmigaOne boards are expensive :-)
Oh my lord. The most expensive case I could find (when you throw a Thermaltake PSU in with the deal) was right about that but it has a 10" display built in to it.
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Actually, I can imagine the sales pitch:
Customer: So these $25,000 computers are state of the art garphics machines you say?
C=USA: Yep, sure are. You can't buy better!
Customer: So how powerful are they?
C=USA: Did you ever TRON 2 on DVD?
Customer: Yes, that's where I heard of you.
C=USA: Disney who made the film are our PARTNERS!
Customer: You mean your computers here did the graphics for the movie?!
C=USA: I can't answer that as I'm bound by a confidentiality agreement.
Customer: Wow! I'll take 3 of them!
C=USA: KaChing! Sucker!!!
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Hang-on haters... Where's the usual "Why the hell are we even allowing mention of CUSA on Amiga.org?!?!!" ?
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Guess we were all too gobsmacked by the stupidity of this to think of it.
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Hang-on haters... Where's the usual "Why the hell are we even allowing mention of CUSA on Amiga.org?!?!!" ?
Because now they're entertaining. We either post in this thread or watch Two and a Half Men for a laugh.
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Either way we are watching a train wreck. :)
I still think this is a smokescreen and he is just waiting to unleash the Commodore ZXX Spectrum.
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But, its hand made and delivered by Walt Disney himself!
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Because now they're entertaining. We either post in this thread or watch Two and a Half Men for a laugh.
There's nothing funny about Two And A Half Men.
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There's nothing funny about Two And A Half Men.
I missed the "funeral" episode. The older series were fun.
I still think Married With Children was a classic. Al Bundy was my role model.
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Is this a joke?
Yes, CUSA is a joke. Have they burned through their purported $30 Million ad budget yet?
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add to basket
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Oh.....my....a...gwahd!!!!!
Are you serious? I have a Mac Pro that does what I really need it to do running OSX, Windows, and Linux for a fraction of that. It plays great games too. I was also considering an Alienware system at similar specs that was the same cost.
There is no way they could provide a computer worth that much. I mean I could buy an entire render farm for that price built out of a combination of Apple, Alienware and IBM machines for that price. What the hell are they thinking.
The Amiga name was associated with a competitive computer at only a small increase in price in its heyday. Even in the later days it ways only a small increase. This is just stupid. The novelty of an Amiga badge won't pay for that.
Sorry I could buy a broken down Amiga...pull everything out...build new rails...put in any computer I want with an emulator and play pretend. Really right now if I want an Amiga I would simply buy a PPC board and run Amiga OS. Fingers crossed for a time in which I could afford it, which seems far more likely than ever owning an Amiga for C-USA.
Unless it is hand signed by Walt Disney himself and built by the imagineers I won't even think about it other than to laugh.
Commodore USA...Making Apple prices look down right thrifty by comparison.
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10 Barry makes ludicrous statement
20 Leo gives Barry a good knock to the side of the head
30 All mention of the idea is forgotten
40 goto 10
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15 We all laugh uproariously
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25 Dammy instantly believes anything he's told, with total blind faith and no thought and proceeds to spam all the Amiga forums with this glorious news of world domination... "just two more months!"
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Barry's "$7000" nVidia Quadro retails for $4k, so there's $3000 right there.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=40000449&IsNodeId=1&Description=nvidia%20quadro&name=Professional%20Graphics%20%2f%20Video%20Cards&Order=BESTMATCH
Now if you buy them in bulk...
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I stand by my previous comments on the matter. C= USA isn't a real company, it's just a bunch of internet trolls with nothing better to do with their lives. Move along, nothing to see here :)
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Well they are real in so far that you can buy a product from them.
However, Dammys involvement is pretty much pure trolling.
Vague promises, constant talk about OS4 when discussing CUSA, persistantly posting on websites almost completely hostile to CUSA, grand lies... Its just a troll act to rile people up.
Never was anything else guys.
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You'll also note there's no reviews by any reputable review websites on their current offerings. Some dude posting a 10 min video of an "unboxing" on YouTube isn't a review, boys.
I would think for a company shouting "WE ARE TOP QUALITY! OUR KEYBOARDS MAKE CLICKY NOISES!" they would have had the confidence to be shipping one to every review site on the 'net. Just a boatload of overheating, non working wifi stories on their own forums, seemingly.
They shipped product, which is more than I figured would happen, tbh.
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Regardless, I don't think these guys are going to be around too long. Most of the Amiga community has no interest in what they're doing. Most of the non-Amiga community has no interest in what they're doing.
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You'll also note there's no reviews by any reputable review websites on their current offerings. Some dude posting a 10 min video of an "unboxing" on YouTube isn't a review, boys.
I would think for a company shouting "WE ARE TOP QUALITY! OUR KEYBOARDS MAKE CLICKY NOISES!" they would have had the confidence to be shipping one to every review site on the 'net. Just a boatload of overheating, non working wifi stories on their own forums, seemingly.
They shipped product, which is more than I figured would happen, tbh.
I think I have mentioned it on this forum before. But pretty everything I have read about CUSA is regurgitated articles that seem to be copy and pasted between sites and blogs. Even the tweets are just spewed out by retweet bots.
I only recall a couple of actual articles that were original and they all said that they wouldn't be buying one.
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C=USA is just another Manchurian candidate, a front for Chinese manufacturers take one of the few areas they don't yet completely own, desktop computers....
I think I have mentioned it on this forum before. But pretty everything I have read about CUSA is regurgitated articles that seem to be copy and pasted between sites and blogs. Even the tweets are just spewed out by retweet bots.
I only recall a couple of actual articles that were original and they all said that they wouldn't be buying one.
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25 Dammy instantly believes anything he's told, with total blind faith and no thought and proceeds to spam all the Amiga forums with this glorious news of world domination... "just two more months!"
He's mentally ill so we shouldn't be too harsh on him I guess.
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C=USA is just another Manchurian candidate, a front for Chinese manufacturers take one of the few areas they don't yet completely own, desktop computers....
Well, they may have slightly miscalculated in selecting a Florida furniture retailer with whom to carry out that evil scheme...let alone one who thinks that the high-end professional workstation market can be recaptured by a long-dead and oft-necromanced brand name and nothing else.
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Remember..
Commodore ZXX Spectrum. The extra X means extra cash.
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Remember..
Commodore ZXX Spectrum. The extra X means extra cash.
"linux has x11...our new spectrum for professionals has 3 times as much x!"
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Remember workbench? Well forget about it because we can't use the name any more. So get ready for Commodore OS. Linux that we are gonna skin to me you feel like we aren't rehashing it for our purposes.
Remember Amiga? Well we kind of have the rights to use the name in order to sell you expensive crap. So get ready for our range of $2,000 - $20,000 "prosumer" computers. Aimed at giving you nothing that Dell and others already can for cheaper!
And coming soon. Our all new range of Commodore Amstrad CPC computers. Aimed at making sure your childhood memories are well and truly mangled for the rest of your lives!
Order now and we will give you your very own Dammy. Who will argue the toss with you on our forums when something doesn't go right. Absolutely free.
Now that's 30 million well spent.
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Barry is taking his bat and ball home.
While I appreciate your heartfelt concerns for CUSA, it's marketing and pricing plans, cost analysis and other areas of the business, this is not the forum for addressing your concerns and comments. It has been posted previously that Commodore-Amiga.org is a forum to explore and discuss our products, applications, member help and others areas of interest that would help the members enjoy and utilize our products. It IS NOT a forum to ridicule, second guess, deride and generally troll, with the intent to scutinize the business decisions of the company. There are many other forums that have attained a high degree of expertise in this area, and my suggestion is to join them in their discussions. This forum is visited by not only potential customers, but others who may now, or in the future, have an interest in developing relationships with our company. Fell free to call, PM, email or telepathically connect with me anytime. But the continued banter regarding what you either don't like, don't agree with, can't afford, etc etc, has no purpose or effect on what finally becomes reality. If this is not the product you want, don't buy it. If you can't afford it, don't buy it. If you feel that strongly about your ability to create, then create. But please, enough is enough already. I got your point.
http://www.commodore-amiga.org/en/forum/27-commodore-usa/8551-phone-call-with-barry?limit=15&start=60#8697
Awww bless.
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I'm feeling a whole lot better about the expense of the X1000 now ;-)
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While I appreciate your heartfelt concerns for CUSA, it's marketing and pricing plans, cost analysis and other areas of the business, this is not the forum for addressing your concerns and comments. It has been posted previously that Commodore-Amiga.org is a forum to explore and discuss our products, applications, member help and others areas of interest that would help the members enjoy and utilize our products. It IS NOT a forum to ridicule, second guess, deride and generally troll, with the intent to scutinize the business decisions of the company. There are many other forums that have attained a high degree of expertise in this area, and my suggestion is to join them in their discussions. This forum is visited by not only potential customers, but others who may now, or in the future, have an interest in developing relationships with our company. Fell free to call, PM, email or telepathically connect with me anytime. But the continued banter regarding what you either don't like, don't agree with, can't afford, etc etc, has no purpose or effect on what finally becomes reality. If this is not the product you want, don't buy it. If you can't afford it, don't buy it. If you feel that strongly about your ability to create, then create. But please, enough is enough already. I got your point.
(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/2046/dawsoncryingthumb400x30.jpg)
Earth to Barry: if you set yourself up as the Great Resurrector of Commodore and you don't have a clue what the Commodore community wants, don't care, and can't deliver a quality product anyway, you're going to get shot down. Plugging your ears and going "LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAAR YOUU!" isn't going to change that.
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Maybe what bothers me more it's their attitude:
Hi Melted....
What were you expecting the new Amiga's to sell for? What did you expect it to contain???
That is written by a staff member. Notice the usage of '....' and '???'
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If they don't want to listen, so be it. The market will decide. I suggest they build lots of these high end machines before getting any buyers, to get the maximum out of this useful lesson!
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Maybe what bothers me more it's their attitude:
That is written by a staff member. Notice the usage of '....' and '???'
The guy even tells Barry what he wants from the Amiga range and Barry just shoots him down and completely ignores what he says. I really hope that the site is caching on google on a regular basis. Cos all this stuff will be recorded.
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What an idiot. Doesn't have a clue about any of the markets he's tried to take on, expects that that utter deficiency of knowledge will be compensated for by the magical nostalgia power of a trademark that's been revived and died again half a dozen times before he even got here, ignores and insults anyone and everyone who offers their insight into what people might actually want, sulks when people point out design issues in his product until he's finally forced to give in and fix them, pouts like a baby when meanies on the Internet say mean things about him...he deserves whatever collapse CUSA eventually suffers and more.
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Here's the bit that concerns me:
This forum is visited by not only potential customers, but others who may now, or in the future, have an interest in developing relationships with our company.
How many of you know about the various quasi-legal pyramid schemes that roll out in the USA every few years? Favourites are the Emu Breeding scheme and the Alpaca Scheme. See this link for details: http://www.crimes-of-persuasion.com/Crimes/Telemarketing/Outbound/Major/Investments/wacky.htm
They involve setting up what looks like a reputable business and then convincing people to invest in it for a certain financial gain. By the time the truth comes out (that there is no market) the people behind it move on to something new and take the cash with them. These are not "classified ad" scams, they actually involve a lot of money and run real adverts on actual TV stations.
So, let's say I wanted to do a similar scam...
Phase 1:
Set yourself up a company and make it an LLC, for example "MY COMPUTERS LLC".
The reason you use an LLC is because in the USA it stands for "Limited Liability Company" and anybody that attempt to sue you can only sue the company for the assets of the company. This protects the actual assets of the business owner (his home, his car, his personal bank account, etc) and his family.
Phase 2:
You need to identify a market, produce eye catching stock and advertise in reputable channels to quickly establish yourself as professional business with good connections. Push your upcoming products on as many media sites as possible so that anyone doing a search for your products or company will find multiple hits.
Phase 3:
Sell some of your wares and build up additional advertising demonstrating that sales have been made and repeatedly state that demand is outstripping production. Post fictitious sales figures, sales projections and perhaps even some fake shots of the production facilities. All of these things will pop up for anyone doing some quick online research.
Phase 4:
Look for small investors. This works a bit like McDonalds where other people set up the business and are then trapped into purchasing their stock from a single supplier. In this case you have multiple people invest their own money to open up "mom & pop" shops to sell your underpowered and heavily over-priced equipment. As you are selling the equipment to them and ordering it from a third party based on demand, you are at no financial risk and it is up to the investor to actually find customers.
Phase 5:
Look for big investors. Now you point to your "extensive product line" (from 3rd parties) and your staggering global distribution outlets (the poor buggers trying to sell your overpriced goods) and don't forget to mention your own production facilities (the ones that actually belong to the people producing the goods for the 3rd party companies you buy your stuff from). If you're going to claim to be fighting the big boys then you might want to make wild claims like having developed your own Operating System and make sure that nobody finds out that it is actually a rebadged free OS that you ahve nothing to do with.
Phase 6:
Pocket all of the investment money you can and make sure you pay top prices and salaries to yourself, family members and the shell companies you've set up as "middle men". When the scheme finally collapses, the LLC has no cash assets, the offices turn out to be rented, the staff are all temps and there is nothing left for the investors to recover.
Alternatively, you could open up an LLC and make novelty computer case and hope you sell millions of them just like C=USA.....
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It makes me laugh that he is quick to call others trolls yet he is just as responsible for the vitriol himself. I am enjoying watching all this as it's certainly more entertaining than X-Factor or Strictly Come Dancing combined. He has an unnatural knack for twisting what ever someone says on it's head, spinning it then spewing it back out to try and make them look like they are in the wrong. All this could easily be avoided by simply giving people more info. But we all know that this would probably be more made up than the stuff on the Jeremy Kyle show. His latest rantings only go to show that he really can't handle criticism. I hate to imagine what he would be like with a company like Apple, where every time they release something new there is an army of people waiting to rip it to shreds.
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It makes me laugh that he is quick to call others trolls yet he is just as responsible for the vitriol himself. I am enjoying watching all this as it's certainly more entertaining than X-Factor or Strictly Come Dancing combined. He has an unnatural knack for twisting what ever someone says on it's head, spinning it then spewing it back out to try and make them look like they are in the wrong. All this could easily be avoided by simply giving people more info. But we all know that this would probably be more made up than the stuff on the Jeremy Kyle show. His latest rantings only go to show that he really can't handle criticism. I hate to imagine what he would be like with a company like Apple, where every time they release something new there is an army of people waiting to rip it to shreds.
It does make you wonder why they just couldn't have come out initially and said "We're going to bring you a line of Commodore PCs running either Windows 7 or Linux and pre-configured with some free classic emulation software".
Nobody would have grumbled about an Intel Atom machine called a "Commodore 256" running Linux or a i7 quad-core called a "Commodore 512" running Windows 7.
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How many of you know about the various quasi-legal pyramid schemes that roll out in the USA every few years?
Well that was an enlightening read. I'm not going to jump right to that conclusion, since Barry is so transparently inept as a computer-manufacturer CEO that I can't see anybody investing in his venture (and I still maintain that the Disney "partnership" was bought,) but it is telling that they've spent so very much effort on trying to convince people that they're a Serious Company, Dammit...
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It's the stuff on their facebook page too. The images of them jetting away and the rather odd message about keeping jobs in America. Yet he went to South America and Mexico for a factory.
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Well that was an enlightening read. I'm not going to jump right to that conclusion, since Barry is so transparently inept as a computer-manufacturer CEO that I can't see anybody investing in his venture (and I still maintain that the Disney "partnership" was bought,) but it is telling that they've spent so very much effort on trying to convince people that they're a Serious Company, Dammit...
The Disney thing was purely a case of buying advertising space. Disney have as much to do with making Commodore computers as they do with making Canadian computers, light bulbs and popular fizzy drinks. :D
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It's the stuff on their facebook page too. The images of them jetting away and the rather odd message about keeping jobs in America. Yet he went to South America and Mexico for a factory.
... and his CTO is in Australia! :D
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It's the stuff on their facebook page too. The images of them jetting away and the rather odd message about keeping jobs in America. Yet he went to South America and Mexico for a factory.
He didn't say which America ;)
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Never looked at it that way. Suppose Barry does like to think outside the box. Before slapping a boing ball logo on it.
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The Disney thing was purely a case of buying advertising space. Disney have as much to do with making Commodore computers as they do with making Canadian computers, light bulbs and popular fizzy drinks. :D
I know that and you know that, dammy doesn't seem to ;P
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It makes me laugh that he is quick to call others trolls yet he is just as responsible for the vitriol himself. I am enjoying watching all this as it's certainly more entertaining than X-Factor or Strictly Come Dancing combined. He has an unnatural knack for twisting what ever someone says on it's head, spinning it then spewing it back out to try and make them look like they are in the wrong. All this could easily be avoided by simply giving people more info. But we all know that this would probably be more made up than the stuff on the Jeremy Kyle show. His latest rantings only go to show that he really can't handle criticism. I hate to imagine what he would be like with a company like Apple, where every time they release something new there is an army of people waiting to rip it to shreds.
HOW DARE YOU SLAG OFF STRICTLY COME DANCING BITCH :madashell:
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Here's the bit that concerns me:
How many of you know about the various quasi-legal pyramid schemes that roll out in the USA every few years? Favourites are the Emu Breeding scheme and the Alpaca Scheme. See this link for details: http://www.crimes-of-persuasion.com/Crimes/Telemarketing/Outbound/Major/Investments/wacky.htm
They involve setting up what looks like a reputable business and then convincing people to invest in it for a certain financial gain. By the time the truth comes out (that there is no market) the people behind it move on to something new and take the cash with them. These are not "classified ad" scams, they actually involve a lot of money and run real adverts on actual TV stations.
So, let's say I wanted to do a similar scam...
Phase 1:
Set yourself up a company and make it an LLC, for example "MY COMPUTERS LLC".
The reason you use an LLC is because in the USA it stands for "Limited Liability Company" and anybody that attempt to sue you can only sue the company for the assets of the company. This protects the actual assets of the business owner (his home, his car, his personal bank account, etc) and his family.
Phase 2:
You need to identify a market, produce eye catching stock and advertise in reputable channels to quickly establish yourself as professional business with good connections. Push your upcoming products on as many media sites as possible so that anyone doing a search for your products or company will find multiple hits.
Phase 3:
Sell some of your wares and build up additional advertising demonstrating that sales have been made and repeatedly state that demand is outstripping production. Post fictitious sales figures, sales projections and perhaps even some fake shots of the production facilities. All of these things will pop up for anyone doing some quick online research.
Phase 4:
Look for small investors. This works a bit like McDonalds where other people set up the business and are then trapped into purchasing their stock from a single supplier. In this case you have multiple people invest their own money to open up "mom & pop" shops to sell your underpowered and heavily over-priced equipment. As you are selling the equipment to them and ordering it from a third party based on demand, you are at no financial risk and it is up to the investor to actually find customers.
Phase 5:
Look for big investors. Now you point to your "extensive product line" (from 3rd parties) and your staggering global distribution outlets (the poor buggers trying to sell your overpriced goods) and don't forget to mention your own production facilities (the ones that actually belong to the people producing the goods for the 3rd party companies you buy your stuff from). If you're going to claim to be fighting the big boys then you might want to make wild claims like having developed your own Operating System and make sure that nobody finds out that it is actually a rebadged free OS that you ahve nothing to do with.
Phase 6:
Pocket all of the investment money you can and make sure you pay top prices and salaries to yourself, family members and the shell companies you've set up as "middle men". When the scheme finally collapses, the LLC has no cash assets, the offices turn out to be rented, the staff are all temps and there is nothing left for the investors to recover.
Alternatively, you could open up an LLC and make novelty computer case and hope you sell millions of them just like C=USA.....
You really are getting good at story telling. Maybe you should quit your day job and become a script writer for Doctor Who. That show has really gone down since David Tennant left :( and even you could do a better job than those useless wankers they call script writers. SAVE DOCTOR WHO! :)
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You really are getting good at story telling. Maybe you should quit your day job and become a script writer for Doctor Who. That show has really gone down since David Tennant left :( and even you could do a better job than those useless wankers they call script writers. SAVE DOCTOR WHO! :)
I'm working on a script called "Dr Who and The Planet of the Lipstick Lesbians". I'll let you know if the BBC go for it. :D
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I'm working on a script called "Dr Who and The Planet of the Lipstick Lesbians". I'll let you know if the BBC go for it. :D
Good stuff but not sure that's a good idea though as i already have my suspicions about his (Matt Smith's) sexuality (kinda like the white horse from LOTR)...
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Good stuff but not sure that's a good idea though as i already have my suspicions about his (Matt Smith's) sexuality (kinda like the white horse from LOTR)...
Yeah, tonight's episode was rather "RTD". Mind you, Google for some pics of Matt Smith's real-life girlfriend "Daisy Lowe", she's stunning!
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Here's the bit that concerns me:
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Phase 6:
Pocket all of the investment money you can and make sure you pay top prices and salaries to yourself, family members and the shell companies you've set up as "middle men". When the scheme finally collapses, the LLC has no cash assets, the offices turn out to be rented, the staff are all temps and there is nothing left for the investors to recover.
Alternatively, you could open up an LLC and make novelty computer case and hope you sell millions of them just like C=USA.....
well, abusing irresponsible side of the capitalism.
But with too many big words and too little results, one must always have this picture in front. For the good of the people that get the product and have high hopes, hope it will not happen
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It was kind of funny the Doctor didn't know the difference between "partner" and "companion." Last nights show was definitely a cross between RTD and SM.
Yeah, tonight's episode was rather "RTD". Mind you, Google for some pics of Matt Smith's real-life girlfriend "Daisy Lowe", she's stunning!
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HOW DARE YOU SLAG OFF STRICTLY COME DANCING BITCH :madashell:
I did and I will continue to as long as there is breath in my body. Lets be honest we all know strictly and thew few follow on shows after is the only life we will see from these guests ;)
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well they have revealed the case on their new website.
http://web.************.net/amiga
Didn't take me long to track down the case.
http://www.origenae.co.kr/en/htpc_s16t.htm
So that what "expensive" case he is using.
I found a review of the smaller version of the case.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Origen_ae/S10V/7.html
Give them their dues. It's a nice looking case. Shame about the bad photoshop with the Amiga badges.
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well they have revealed the case on their new website.
http://web.************.net/amiga
Didn't take me long to track down the case.
http://www.origenae.co.kr/en/htpc_s16t.htm
So that what "expensive" case he is using.
Its a toaster oven?
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well they have revealed the case on their new website.
http://web.************.net/amiga
Didn't take me long to track down the case.
http://www.origenae.co.kr/en/htpc_s16t.htm
So that what "expensive" case he is using.
I found a review of the smaller version of the case.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Origen_ae/S10V/7.html
Give them their dues. It's a nice looking case. Shame about the bad photoshop with the Amiga badges.
i do like the case, but, oh my goodness, bazza is still copying images and sticking a logo on them. :roflmao:
i wonder if he's 'partnered' with these people yet; that is to say, he's decided to be a customer of theirs. well, this certainly justifies a few $1000USD just in itself. what innovation! what genius! why, i'm sure people will love paying thousands more for an off-the-shelf motherboard, off-the-shelf enclosure, linux mint repackaged as something new (or something), a newtek VT card, and, um..., and, the amiga badge! that bazza: what a guy. after all, only somebody with a credit card, web browser, and screwdriver could build it themselves. he really cares about research and development, that bazza.
:laughing:
they may make money. they may make lots of money. but they're just repackaging the same kit anybody, anybody, could purchase off the 'net and assembling it in a rental space in florida at their 'research center.' and they're misrepresenting themselves, and they lie, and they don't care about being unprofessional, dishonest, insulting jackasses. i don't care if 'CUSA' makes billions. they're still a joke.
-- eliyahu
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The thing is I have been looking at these cases and yes they retail for a lot. But I found a complete system for £1,200. (http://www.media-centre-pc.co.uk/media-centers/touchscreen-range/) and the case on it's own is around £600 (http://www.awd-it.co.uk/origen-ae-s16t-home-theatre-media-centre-case-7-touchscreen-silver.html). What seems to make these expensive is the touchscreens embedded into them.
The big question is if they will say these are place holder images. If so then it's a lot of effort for just place holders lol.
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So to his laughable attempt to take on a market he obviously doesn't understand at all (again,) he's added an abortion of a pre-fab case that looks like the unholy love-child of a VCR and a microwave? Good to know that the sycophants won't even have "well, it has a nice case!" as a talking point this time...
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That case can be had for $300 in the North American market, and traditionally has received poor reviews (the S16T).
If this is their entry into the "workstation" market, it would probably be wise to use a workstation case, not an HTPC case.
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Sorry, where are the new cases on their forum site? Can't find them :confused:
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Sorry, where are the new cases on their forum site? Can't find them :confused:
don't worry. i'm sure randy will be along at any minute to tell us -- since i'm sure we're all waiting with baited breath -- that the pictures are here (http://web.************.net/amiga) and that barry is bringing the amiga back, and that it will be 'interesting times,' something about popcorn, and maybe some spam about how great the plans are, how big this has grown, and how we're all nuts for not believing his sycophantic nonsense.
all hail bazza and his business genius! :lol:
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/296942_262488603769334_181491231869072_1032267_1887772705_n.jpg)
-- eliyahu
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http://www.commodore-amiga.org/en/forum/3-suggestion-box/8536-under-construction-new-cusa-website?limit=15&start=15#8723
You have to click the link to their new website.
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I think the cases are really cool so might try and get one for myself one day but not the crap cusa one. I'm in love with anything cnc'd aluminum :)
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Oh boy that means 3 or 4 more announced and never released products now cancelled, being replaced by more pictures of cases. Whats that like 10 now? Wow the development over there is really racing towards the future!
What do they do just go looking for case pictures when they need to announce "new products"?
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http://web.************.net/amiga (http://tinyurl.com/6gj54f6)
http://www.origenae.co.kr/en/htpc_s16t.htm (http://www.origenae.co.kr/en/htpc_s16t.htm)
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Goto http://commodore.net/ then click Amiga.
My favorite part is the HD-DVD drive, guess someone did not know they stopped being made a few years ago.
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Goto http://commodore.net/ then click Amiga.
My favorite part is the HD-DVD drive, guess someone did not know they stopped being made a few years ago.
My local gamestation sells the XBOX 360 HD DVD for £20 and £30 with 10 movies lol. So maybe Barry has bought a load and repurposed them. :roflmao:
The cases were been sold by Origen from about 2008ish. So the blu-ray and hd DVD war was probably still going. Love the bad photoshopping on the images though.
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So what's the touch screen like? What does it do? How does it compare to newer smartphone/tablet screens? :confused:
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It doesn't mention if it's touchscreen is capacitive or resistive. My money would be on resistive. Though it can apparently support a resolution of 1920x1080. The screen is supposed to be used as a media controller. So you can have windows media centre running on it while you watch something on the main monitor. If this is the case they have gone for, which it does look likes there is a cheaper one with a LCD screen instead, then I can imagine they would try to leverage some sort of gimmicky professional functionality in to it.
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It doesn't mention if it's touchscreen is capacitive or resistive. My money would be on resistive. Though it can apparently support a resolution of 1920x1080. The screen is supposed to be used as a media controller. So you can have windows media centre running on it while you watch something on the main monitor. If this is the case they have gone for, which it does look likes there is a cheaper one with a LCD screen instead, then I can imagine they would try to leverage some sort of gimmicky professional functionality in to it.
For $25,0000 it better do everything!
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Maybe they could use it as a fingerprint scanning security device! :cool:
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$700 for a case!
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Oh hey, they finally got a website that doesn't look like total ass! Now if only they'd managed to get a website that doesn't require Javascript to display static page content, they might have a usable website that doesn't look like total ass!
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Those who want to spend massive amounts of money on a htpc, are not going to by it from these guys that's for sure.
I'm still using my xbox1 as an htpc. El cheapo option ;-)
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The screen is just a VFD in the original OEM case, and a poor one at that. Just simple text display, no touch screen that I ever saw on those cases. That's not to say they could not add one, but who wants to get up off the couch to go touch a touchscreen on an HTPC when it comes with a remote. The stock case is well known for its' shoddy IR remote. C-USA's solution may be a bit more elegant, I suppose.
So what is the deal here? Is it a workstation or a HTPC, lol. Selling $25,000 graphics workstations crammed with PCIe SSD's and Quadro's is one thing, but the HTPC market is a completely different beast where you're not only going against the other HTPC makers, but also against things like Slingbox, Roku, Boxee, AppleTV - and to some extent even the consoles, which can all run Netflix just fine.
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The stock case is well known for its' shoddy IR remote. C-USA's solution may be a bit more elegant, I suppose.
Elegant like a fan that doesn't point at the chipset it's supposed to cool?
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What exactly do people do with a $25000 computer anyway? The only thing i can think of is Hollywood special effects. Just wondering.
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well they have revealed the case on their new website.
http://web.************.net/amiga
Didn't take me long to track down the case.
http://www.origenae.co.kr/en/htpc_s16t.htm
So that what "expensive" case he is using.
I found a review of the smaller version of the case.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Origen_ae/S10V/7.html
Give them their dues. It's a nice looking case. Shame about the bad photoshop with the Amiga badges.
Verrry nice case, however $350. Far far from $1000
Anyway, when its done.
All before that are concept stolen images on CUSA website :-)
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Doing some digging around, those cases can be found on clearance for a couple hundred bucks these days - they are circa 2007/2008 vintage if my memory isn't failing me. I used one years ago to build a HTPC for a buddy, and I threw some 6800's in it, so fairly old (but still attractive kit).
VFD was hard to see from a distance, and the remote was unresponsive most of the time.
Thermaltake and the other more known case venders have a lot nicer HTPC solutions these days, but the prices would still likely be prohibitive for most OEM's. I'm a big fan of the below HTPC case, but the touch screen on HTPC cases is sort of a redundancy in the day and age of remotes, and it's not too cheap either:
http://www.silverstonetek.com/product_legacy.php?area=usa&model=lc18
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I have a sneaky feeling that Barry has something else hidden up his sleeve. His pet Dammy has also been unusually quiet while all this has been going on. So either Dammy has dropped the ball again and said something he shouldn't of. Or these cases will be dropped, much like many of the "future models" that they touted have. In any case I wonder if they have permission to take the images and slap the commodore and amiga branding on it.
@Kesa
I am pretty sure he has mentioned that these things will be aimed at studio's. But I can't imagine a studio buying these things to be honest given the price and specs.
I also wonder if these will still be made by hand over at his US facility.
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It doesn't mention if it's touchscreen is capacitive or resistive. My money would be on resistive. Though it can apparently support a resolution of 1920x1080. The screen is supposed to be used as a media controller. So you can have windows media centre running on it while you watch something on the main monitor. If this is the case they have gone for, which it does look likes there is a cheaper one with a LCD screen instead, then I can imagine they would try to leverage some sort of gimmicky professional functionality in to it.
You could run your C64 emulation on the built-in screen. Have both your Amiga and C64 experience at the same time!
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I'm still using my xbox1 as an htpc. El cheapo option ;-)
Original XBOX for a £10 off ebay, then chip it and add a few hundred gig drive and an XBMC install. How could anything compete with such an awesome solution.
At about £50 total price I'm with you all the way buddy. Nice to see someone else on the same wavelength.
Got plenty of emulators for it too. ;)
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You could run your C64 emulation on the built-in screen. Have both your Amiga and C64 experience at the same time!
Don't suggest that - he'll be calling it the Commodore SX64x or something stupid!
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I can see it now.
The all new Commodore SX64X. With added touchscreen functionality and instant C64 emulation straight form the box. No need for a keyboard or mouse.
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Original XBOX for a £10 off ebay, then chip it and add a few hundred gig drive and an XBMC install. How could anything compete with such an awesome solution.
At about £50 total price I'm with you all the way buddy. Nice to see someone else on the same wavelength.
Got plenty of emulators for it too. ;)
can softmod it too, and of course, if playing media over the network, can probably make do with original drive (if you really want to do it on the cheap).
Great for emulation as you say.
Running a recent xbmc4xbox release ? (http://www.xbmc4xbox.org/)
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Lets be honest, the XBOX is highly customizable. if you have the skills you can de-solder the RAM chips and replace them with larger ones. While this will not increase performance on normal xbox games, they are optimised for the original amount of ram, it makes emulation and other things far better.
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Lets be honest, the XBOX is highly customizable. if you have the skills you can de-solder the RAM chips and replace them with larger ones. While this will not increase performance on normal xbox games, they are optimised for the original amount of ram, it makes emulation and other things far better.
Very true, you can even do the double overclock mod if your a total lunatic. XD
Replacing the IDE cable is worth doing, it doesn't work for everything but loading times on some games are significantly improved.
Our old pal the compact flash IDE drive can work wonders too, HDD replacement that boots nearly instant. It's all good.
Makes you wonder why so many people just flog them for peanuts or throw them away. Very true of a lot of good old hardware. Take a look at pocket PC prices, you'll see many of them under a fiver on ebay, they still do all they did years ago and at that price just having one for a Skype phone is worth the effort.
http://pocket-hacks.blogspot.com/
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can softmod it too, and of course, if playing media over the network, can probably make do with original drive (if you really want to do it on the cheap).
Great for emulation as you say.
Running a recent xbmc4xbox release ? (http://www.xbmc4xbox.org/)
Mines chipped and I have a spare too but yes, softmod is even cheaper.
XBMC, bang up to date, I'm pretty good at keeping up with updates.
Well if CUSA are going into HTPC I'm not interested. The new C64 was an all around fail in my book and I have no hope off seeing anything better from them in the near future.
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So Barry is advertising a US$25K machine by saying it runs C64 programs? That's some advertising....
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Yeah the pocket pc market died the moment smart phones caught up. But they certainly have some nice uses still today. I was considering buying one cheap and seeing about modding it with some media stuff. Try and make a nice portable media device.
And the xbox's..... I wish I never sold my modded one.
But I digress.
I still like the look of the origen case, the overall shape and style looks nice, but I wouldn't pay what they are asking for one. If they are planning on sticking lots of high-end stuff in there it better be well ventilated.
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Goto http://commodore.net/ then click Amiga.
My favorite part is the HD-DVD drive, guess someone did not know they stopped being made a few years ago.
That was a riot.
Him losing his **** over the blue-ray drive at someone in the cusa forum was even more hilarious. Oh my God don't you know these are slimline slot load drives and totally worth $200 - who the hell still bothers with optical media these days? Good God.
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So Barry is advertising a US$25K machine by saying it runs C64 programs? That's some advertising....
Especially when you can get a US$25 (http://www.raspberrypi.org/) machine that will run C64 programs.
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I am sure the kinds of people he is aiming these things at won't be using optical drives very much. I would imagine that everything is done off server clusters. Why bother burning something to a disk when you can just save it to the server in a fraction of the time.
Maybe for home use an optical drive would be a better idea. But I only ever use my drive for back-up's. Also for playing Diablo II and Baldures Gate. All my games come from Steam or similar places. My mac stuff comes from the app store and music comes through iTunes.
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If you replace the term "Commodore OS" with "Linux" it makes far more sense when you read it. Has anyone seen this Commodore OS yet? is it anything other than a Linux distro?
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Him losing his **** over the blue-ray drive at someone in the cusa forum was even more hilarious. Oh my God don't you know these are slimline slot load drives and totally worth $200 - who the hell still bothers with optical media these days? Good God.
Hearing about stuff like this almost makes me wish I lurked there. Almost.
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If you replace the term "Commodore OS" with "Linux" it makes far more sense when you read it. Has anyone seen this Commodore OS yet? is it anything other than a Linux distro?
no. although leo has included GTK themes, wallpapers, and gratuitous commodore-esque styling cues everywhere.
it's just linux. i love how in their 'support' section of the site, they link to the public linux mint fora. :roflmao:
-- eliyahu
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It's not hard to lurk over there. You just check every couple of hours to see what crazy stuff has been done. It is literally that slow when it comes to replies. Not like here where some threads you only have to blink and it's reached 5 pages of replies.
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If you replace the term "Commodore OS" with "Linux" it makes far more sense when you read it. Has anyone seen this Commodore OS yet? is it anything other than a Linux distro?
Well, Dammy seems to confirm here (http://www.commodore-amiga.org/forum/6-commodore-os-software-development/1254-commodore-os-questions?limit=15&start=225&lang=en#8559) that it's basically Linux Mint - two different distros actually, depending on what market the machine is aimed at.
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whats worrying is the response from the CTO, who i believe is supposed to be developing this thing, about all this.
For instance, my understanding (which is not set in stone) is that the "Retro OS" will cater to more advanced use cases and come pre-installed with things like programming tools, more advanced apps and retro and advanced games and the sort of fun and quirky features and aspects present in classic systems, while the "ModernOS" likely won't, as it will cater to a more mainstream audience. Not that you couldn't download this software later.
If they have not even set in stone whats supposed to be coming on these machines then I wonder how far they actually have got with deciding whats going in the case, what the price range is or even what planet they are on.
I also wonder which version of the OS is supposed to be shipped out to those who already purchased a machine off them. After all they are supposedly getting COS mailed to them once it's finished.
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whats worrying is the response from the CTO, who i believe is supposed to be developing this thing, about all this.
If they have not even set in stone whats supposed to be coming on these machines then I wonder how far they actually have got with deciding whats going in the case, what the price range is or even what planet they are on.
I also wonder which version of the OS is supposed to be shipped out to those who already purchased a machine off them. After all they are supposedly getting COS mailed to them once it's finished.
Well, now it seems its not COS but those Mint (RETRO/MODERN) CommodoreOS OEM or something cryptic like that.
Seems C64x users will be viewed as "retro" and get the ability to run Amiga software on their C64 (interesting retro of the retro) while Commodore USA Amiga (hard thing to write!) will get the modern thing, since its their "most modern and futuristic model".
Since nothing is really known of these we have to wait and see.
Sadly, to put the cost down, they never supplied option of having Windows with the machines: so C64x is most expensive Linux nettop up to date.
If they continue the same with their high end workstations (aka Amigas)
will this MINT FUTURE be enough?
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XBMC, bang up to date, I'm pretty good at keeping up with updates.
I know this is all offtopic and all, but how do you find the new xbmc4xbox versions compared to the last release from the main xbmc team before they stopped working on it?
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I wonder if that $25,000 computer will come with a mouse? It took them ages to decide whether the C64x should have one.
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Oh, definitely. It'll have a $300 mouse to go with the $1000 case.
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Sudo apt-get install vice
holy crap I may have to apply to CUSA. I just made a new OS!
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sudo eject -T cdrom
Hell between us we can code for them any time lol.
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Oh, definitely. It'll have a $300 mouse to go with the $1000 case.
I'll wait for the $400 wireless mouse. I hate them $300 PS-2 wired ones. :p
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I know this is all offtopic and all, but how do you find the new xbmc4xbox versions compared to the last release from the main xbmc team before they stopped working on it?
Latest stable version (May 19th 2011): http://www.xbmc4xbox.org/
...and don't forget to join the forum. :)
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I'll wait for the $400 wireless mouse. I hate them $300 PS-2 wired ones. :p
Oh you may laugh but....... http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/Gear-Head-Mouse/6100788/product.html?cid=209800&fp=F&TRACK=CSEShopzilla&mr:referralID=48d23789-e8b6-11e0-be22-001b2166becc
That's a $400 mouse that is!
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what the hell is made of? Looking on the manufacturers website its just a standard laptop mouse..... yup i can see our friends selling these.
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Oh you may laugh but....... http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/Gear-Head-Mouse/6100788/product.html?cid=209800&fp=F&TRACK=CSEShopzilla&mr:referralID=48d23789-e8b6-11e0-be22-001b2166becc
That's a $400 mouse that is!
Not even 1800 dpi. My Abyssus beats it.
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Oh you may laugh but....... http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/Gear-Head-Mouse/6100788/product.html?cid=209800&fp=F&TRACK=CSEShopzilla&mr:referralID=48d23789-e8b6-11e0-be22-001b2166becc
That's a $400 mouse that is!
Bloody hell!
The funny thing is that if you look over to the right then they have a blue one for $14.99.
Red must be the in-colour at the moment. :D
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Latest stable version (May 19th 2011): http://www.xbmc4xbox.org/
...and don't forget to join the forum. :)
what's your handle there? I was looking earlier if you were on it. Nice friendly forum it is. I'm exobuzz there btw :)
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A PS 2 mouse would fit with the theme of 2008 that is set by the case...
I'll wait for the $400 wireless mouse. I hate them $300 PS-2 wired ones. :p
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I would think for 25k+ you'd get more than an off the shelf 10$ mouse, 200$ retro steel case and questionable innards,but hey thats just me.
I checked and for 5-7k or less (Even paying retail prices) I can build a 64 processor xenon workstation that would smoke anything they have even begun to have wet dreams to.
Good luck on this new plan, its much worse than the "lets pay about 100k to sell 300 c64 cases with a crappy mini motherboard inside" plan.
Steven
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Well lets face it, the Cray CX1 cost $25K back in 2008.
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I *love* this thread! It's somewhere between a reality TV show where these guys pitch dumb business ideas and a show where some guy makes a fool of himself in front of a hidden camera.
Ah well, didn't Frank join CUSA in some way? This must be one of his pranks and these guys are just lauging their eyes out ;-)
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CUSA on "Dragons Den" (Shark Tank in the US I think). Now that would be TV worth watching, they would be torn apart.
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Dragon's Den (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon%27s_Den)
I *love* this thread! It's somewhere between a reality TV show where these guys pitch dumb business ideas and a show where some guy makes a fool of himself in front of a hidden camera.
Ah well, didn't Frank join CUSA in some way? This must be one of his pranks and these guys are just lauging their eyes out ;-)
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This is amusing, to say the least. Now at least the A1 series look like a bargain compared to this hobknocking rubbish.
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Yep. For as much as they've been trying to convince the Amiga community that this is The Future Of Commodore (while all the time restating that the Amiga community totally isn't their target market, therefore all objections are totally invalid,) all they've really been accomplishing is making people wonder if custom boards are really that overpriced...
('Course, I still think so, but I'll at the very least concede that $800-1000 for custom hardware compares favorably with $800-1000 for utterly vanilla Atom/i7 boards.)
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Well lets face it, the Cray CX1 cost $25K back in 2008.
If I had the choice I know what I would buy. And here is a hint, it wouldn't be CUSA. :lol:
@mousehouse
Hell yeah it's like some reality TV show. But it's one that I can actually stand to watch. The crazy from CUSA just keeps getting more crazy.
"Lets sell replica C64's. Now lets take cheap Chinese computers and rebadge them and call the VIC. Now lets try and conquer the professional market with our range of expensive tat Amiga's. While also thinking how we can squeeze more out of these all-in-one keyboard computers. Oh look it's Paris Hilton doing a tap dancing lesson in my front garden with a unicorn and a clown!"
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Yep. For as much as they've been trying to convince the Amiga community that this is The Future Of Commodore (while all the time restating that the Amiga community totally isn't their target market, therefore all objections are totally invalid,) all they've really been accomplishing is making people wonder if custom boards are really that overpriced...
('Course, I still think so, but I'll at the very least concede that $800-1000 for custom hardware compares favorably with $800-1000 for utterly vanilla Atom/i7 boards.)
Well, since their commodoreamiga.org board has started, its cleary visible its some of the Amiga (and C64) fans that is their user base, and even there its clearly visible at this announcement stage, they dislike the new "high budget policy"
If future is just exploitation of the past and the present, its better to have no future.
But thanks to people that develop Minimig, Natami, MorphOS, AROS and AmigaOS 4 there is some blink of the past it new age
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Oh my lord. The most expensive case I could find (when you throw a Thermaltake PSU in with the deal) was right about that but it has a 10" display built in to it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119127
This is the one that is listed at 999.99. It is now sold out... amazingly enough.
Edit: Well hell never mind... that is from all the way back in 2007. LOL. I just did a search for $1000 pc case and that was the only one I found that had multiple listings.
Edit 2: http://www.myshopping.com.au/PT--67_Computer_Cases__fs_p5_e__ This place has a list of $1000+ pc cases, Australian dollars. I don't remember the thermaltake level 10 being that expensive, but I could be remembering wrong.
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I don't remember the thermaltake level 10 being that expensive, but I could be remembering wrong.
About $250-$280 for a level10 GT, more than double for the BMW level 10. But still not $1000....
...and at least the level 10 gives you something to show for it, it's a truly awesome case.
These are the official prices: http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Products.aspx?S=1341
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Nevermind.
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These are the official prices: http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Products.aspx?S=1341
Those are awesome looking cases, I hadn't found desktop machines very interesting to look at for a long while until seeing those.
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They sure are. When case prices go over $200, I for one expect to see something special for it, over $500 and I expect to see a freckin work of art. CUSA take note!
Hey, this thread has just given me an idea for another thread...
I'll post it later, I should be getting some work done right about now.
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$1000 will buy you a fully phase changed cooled kit capable of running the CPU at constant sub zero temps. Paying that much money for a "nice looking" case that isn't some form of exotic cooling system is just insane, and I've done my share of buying expensive cases from the likes of Mountain Mods. I've got an older 2 mobo MM case that I love (Ascension Duality), but it was insanely expensive at even under 50% of what C-USA is claiming their cases will market for on these new Amiga's.
It better cook breakfast and open my mail for $1000, and for $25,000 for a full system, their staff should wash my cars every weekend as part of the deal.
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http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/product.aspx?c=1257&id=1481#Tab0
At about $345 this touchscreen plus the water cooled level 10 GTS will set you back just over $700, $300 more will buy you a storage draw, remote, cup holder, toaster, scented oil diffuser or whatever else you wish to pimp your case with.
CUSA are mad I tell you, maaaaaaddddd!
...and they ain't getting any cash off me!
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http://www.crazypc.com/other/misc/toast.htm
...yes I did say toaster and this is the one I meant.
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http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/product.aspx?c=1257&id=1481#Tab0
At about $345 this touchscreen plus the water cooled level 10 GTS will set you back just over $700, $300 more will buy you a storage draw, remote, cup holder, toaster, scented oil diffuser or whatever else you wish to pimp your case with.
CUSA are mad I tell you, maaaaaaddddd!
...and they ain't getting any cash off me!
They will try to justify high price with best possible industrial and pro use components. While this alone is a tricky market to enter, we can just wait "few more weeks" when this road becomes official.
Best current CUSA user base can hope is that they will have the beloved emulation box in couple of next months for their C64x and VICs: Amigas will stay out of the commons man reach. What is also interesting as that such Pro budle would need pro software and that is something CommodoreOS will not provide: they will have to make some good bundle. Interesting test for CUSA, much heavier burden then ever before with less chance to succeed.
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C=USA have released another pic of a case. Looks like for $25,000 it is only going to have 1 x 5.25" bay, 2 x full size 3.5" bays and 1 x half-height 3.5" bay! Crazy!
http://www.bakesure.nl/foto/1354.jpg
There is a regulator for water-cooling the CPU on the front bottom left corner.
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http://www.crazypc.com/other/misc/toast.htm
...yes I did say toaster and this is the one I meant.
LOL. Someone here will install that! :D
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(http://media.northjersey.com/images/0301F_Bake_JD.jpg)
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Mini-ITX case?
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(http://media.northjersey.com/images/0301F_Bake_JD.jpg)
Is that thing in the pan some of Spammy's BS? :D