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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: lunithy on September 22, 2011, 12:57:19 PM
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http://cosmosamiga.blogspot.com/2011/09/68060100.html
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I wish I had that sort of Amiga in 1996!
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this overclock is well done and real
sysinfo reports accurate results ..77 mips which is exactly the double which does the 060/50
btw, sysinfo is the only tool that still report correct and accurate cpu test results
2x faster than a 060/50 38.5 mips
2.5x faster than a 040/40mhz 30 mips
4x faster than a 040/25mhz 19 mips
8x faster than 030/50
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this overclock is well done and real
sysinfo reports accurate results ..77 mips which is exactly the double which does the 060/50
btw, sysinfo is the only tool that still report correct and accurate cpu test results
which is about half of the "real" mips as only one integer unit is used. SysSpeed gives the "right" figure above 150 if you try it - I believe.
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which is about half of the "real" mips as only one integer unit is used. SysSpeed gives the "right" figure above 150 if you try it - I believe.
sysspeed or aibb reports wrong and inaccurate results
for example sysspeed on a 040/40 mhz reports 28 mips and on a 060/50 reports 66 mips..so means is about 2.5x faster....
that's totally inaccurate...cause the 060/50 is not 2.x faster than the 040/40....only 1.3x faster
also on winuae sysspeed reports wrong and inaccurate results ...it is a really buggy tool
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I tried with a 110 Mhz crystal and a 3.5v regulator, but no boot with or without any Simms...
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I tried with a 110 Mhz crystal and a 3.5v regulator, but no boot with or without any Simms...
maybe you can create your own regulator using a LM317 transistor and using a variable resistor you can create and try different voltages examples 3.35, 3.4, 3.40,3.45
also you must connect a big capacitor there to smooth that 3.3v or 3.x line...something like 4700 mf or more .....if you do not use a big cap that line will not be enough stable for an overclocked 060
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sysspeed or aibb reports wrong and inaccurate results
for example sysspeed on a 040/40 mhz reports 28 mips and on a 060/50 reports 66 mips..so means is about 2.5x faster....
that's totally inaccurate...cause the 060/50 is not 2.x faster than the 040/40....only 1.3x faster
also on winuae sysspeed reports wrong and inaccurate results ...it is a really buggy tool
Interesting. I'd always heard the complete opposite, that Sysinfo doesn't use the full power of the '060 so always under-scores it, but the other programs can make use of both integer units, so will give a fairer estimate.
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Actually the real truth would be somewhere in between. An '060 is roughly 1.3x as fast as an '040 at same clock speed, which'd make a 50mhz '060 something akin to a 66mhz '040,.... roughly 1.65x the speed on a 40mhz '040.
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Actually the real truth would be somewhere in between.
Ain't that always the way? :)
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Interesting. I'd always heard the complete opposite, that Sysinfo doesn't use the full power of the '060 so always under-scores it, but the other programs can make use of both integer units, so will give a fairer estimate.
You are right.
Dont listen to LaserBack, just read this thread and see for yourself.
Always bashing on everything that aint sysinfo.
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=59096
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From: http://www.amigaspeed.de.vu/
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Neat.. I look forward to the videos..
Rich
ny
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WOW! Good work Cosmos. :)
How could anyone really believe SysInfo is an accurate benchmark program? Would you trust a program which almost always miscalculates the CPU speed? Has a small cachable MIPS benchmark which makes 040 and 060 machines appear much faster than they really are? ...and on my A3000 9 out of 10 times reports N/A for Ramsey and Gary. Maybe thats why its called SysInfo instead of SysBench?
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You are right.
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=59096
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From: http://www.amigaspeed.de.vu/
don't be idiot what do you think ? that the 060 is a core i7 ? loi
that's graphic results are accurate of course were not done with the buggy sysspeed
and you can see I'm right that the 060/50 is only 1.3x faster than the 040/040
sysspeed reports 28 mips on the 040/40 and 66mips on the 060/50 and that's totally out of range and giving the 040 a weak weak integer result
to make sure what I'm talking about anyone can get sysspeed modules of both processors on aminet and compare
http://aminet.net/util/moni/A1240_040.lha
http://aminet.net/util/moni/A2k_50_60_Bliz.lha
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MIPS=meaningless indicator of performance.
Other than MIPS what else makes people think the 68060 @50 mhz is only 1.3 times faster than a 68040@40 mhz?
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MIPS=meaningless indicator of performance.
Other than MIPS what else makes people think the 68060 @50 mhz is only 1.3 times faster than a 68040@40 mhz?
mips is something invented to calculate integer performance
you can use it to get an idea how fast the cpu will complete certain task
however there are buggy programs like sysspeed that report wrong and inaccurate results
but the 060/50mhz will complete a task 1.3x faster than a 040/40mhz and 2x faster than a 040/25
That's because the 040 and the 060 have identical cores....in fact the 040 overclocked to 50mhz performs identical as the 060/50
and for your question ...you can use real life benchmarks to measure cpu performance
something like a picture converter or a sound converter
also someone who had both cpus...the 040/40 and the 060/50 should affirm that the 060 is not much faster...almost impossible to notice a difference on workbench
you note it on benchmarks or playing games like doom or quake where the 060 will work fast
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Counting from Freescale specs 060/50 does 1.66x faster than 040/40. Check your facts about the cores.
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don't be idiot what do you think ? that the 060 is a core i7 ? loi
that's graphic results are accurate of course were not done with the buggy sysspeed
and you can see I'm right that the 060/50 is only 1.3x faster than the 040/040
sysspeed reports 28 mips on the 040/40 and 66mips on the 060/50 and that's totally out of range and giving the 040 a weak weak integer result
to make sure what I'm talking about anyone can get sysspeed modules of both processors on aminet and compare
http://aminet.net/util/moni/A1240_040.lha
http://aminet.net/util/moni/A2k_50_60_Bliz.lha
So you are calling me an idiot?
After reading that last thread nothing you write on these forums will be taken seriously.
And what are you talking about that the graph is showing that 060/50 is only 1.3 times faster then 040/40?
The 040/40 gets 41MIPS while the 060/50 gets 80 mips. How the hell do you get that to 1.3 times faster? 1.3 times faster yould be 53.3mips
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That's because the 040 and the 060 have identical cores....in fact the 040 overclocked to 50mhz performs identical as the 060/50
That's not even close to true.
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That's because the 040 and the 060 have identical cores....
What drugs are you on?
Must be the milspec kind!
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040 core : http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ft6jgTxpbj0/TSxNeGH6AnI/AAAAAAAAFqk/qpRYDHa839c/s1600/Heart_040_4.JPG
060 core : http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-y3x21FvobL4/TVgCXzLbWEI/AAAAAAAAFu8/vT4kfn0jVtY/s1600/060_10.JPG
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That's because the 040 and the 060 have identical cores....in fact the 040 overclocked to 50mhz performs identical as the 060/50
if that was true (identical cores), it would have been called the 050 and not the 060.
taken from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_68000_family
"Odd-numbered releases had always been reactions to issues raised within the previous even numbered part; hence, it was generally expected that the 68050 would have reduced the 68040's power consumption...The 68010 was a revised version of the 68000 with minor modifications to the core, and likewise the 68030 was a revised 68020 with some more powerful features, none of them significant enough to classify as a major upgrade to the core."
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MIPS=meaningless indicator of performance
It actually means million instructions per second. Like any benchmark, you have to understand what it's telling you.
Just because you don't understand something doesn't make it meaningless.