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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: tone007 on September 20, 2011, 11:27:33 AM

Title: C64x on the used market!
Post by: tone007 on September 20, 2011, 11:27:33 AM
This guy has been posting for probably two months now, originally the price was $1000, then $750, and now $600.

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/sys/2599902451.html

Funny.
Title: Re: C64x on the used market!
Post by: VuData on September 20, 2011, 11:45:18 AM
Is that just a bad photo or do these things not actually look much like a C64?
Title: Re: C64x on the used market!
Post by: Kesa on September 20, 2011, 11:50:38 AM
In what way do they not look like a C64 apart from the cursor keys? :confused:

You guys wait until the upcoming global financial crisis part II then you will start seeing these going at $20 a pop brand new :)
Title: Re: C64x on the used market!
Post by: VuData on September 20, 2011, 11:58:23 AM
Like I said, i wasn't sure if it was a bad photo (and I haven't been interested enough to go looking at their website) but to me the whole keyboard looks nothing like a C64 and the colour looks off.
Title: Re: C64x on the used market!
Post by: Kesa on September 20, 2011, 12:10:17 PM
I think maybe it's because you can't remember what a new C64 looks like? All of the ones still around today must be pretty grubby by now and maybe you didn't realize that the shiny look with all that gloss is actually how they looked new :)
Title: Re: C64x on the used market!
Post by: VuData on September 20, 2011, 12:16:18 PM
Yep, could well be a need to remove the rose-tinted specs.
Title: Re: C64x on the used market!
Post by: Kesa on September 20, 2011, 12:26:18 PM
Oh hey, a new member! Welcome to the org :)
Title: Re: C64x on the used market!
Post by: VuData on September 20, 2011, 12:30:36 PM
Thanks. I've been loitering around for a while (around 1999) but had to sign up to get involved in all the FPGA goodness that's happening.
Title: Re: C64x on the used market!
Post by: TheDaddy on September 20, 2011, 01:04:22 PM
Quote from: tone007;660176
This guy has been posting for probably two months now, originally the price was $1000, then $750, and now $600.

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/sys/2599902451.html

Funny.



And in the left corner all the tools needed to make it work ;)
Title: Re: C64x on the used market!
Post by: spihunter on September 20, 2011, 01:28:00 PM
Maybe we should all pitch in and buy it so we can host our first live public execution of a computer on A.org.



Quote from: tone007;660176
This guy has been posting for probably two months now, originally the price was $1000, then $750, and now $600.

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/sys/2599902451.html

Funny.
Title: Re: C64x on the used market!
Post by: VuData on September 20, 2011, 01:36:06 PM
Good idea. From what I've heard we could just switch it on a wait until it self-immolates!
Title: Re: C64x on the used market!
Post by: persia on September 20, 2011, 02:05:04 PM
But does it blend?
Title: Re: C64x on the used market!
Post by: Digiman on September 20, 2011, 03:40:08 PM
Quote from: Kesa;660182
I think maybe it's because you can't remember what a new C64 looks like? All of the ones still around today must be pretty grubby by now and maybe you didn't realize that the shiny look with all that gloss is actually how they looked new :)


The colour probably is slightly off because it's more brown less grey than a sealed music maker keyboard I compared it to ipso facto a c64 case not exposed to light for 30 years :)
Title: Re: C64x on the used market!
Post by: commodorejohn on September 20, 2011, 03:49:44 PM
Oh, that poor, poor man...
Title: Re: C64x on the used market!
Post by: runequester on September 20, 2011, 04:25:34 PM
I guess the free market has decided that the real value of these machines isn't quite what they go for.
Title: Re: C64x on the used market!
Post by: jorkany on September 20, 2011, 05:44:23 PM
Quote from: VuData;660181
Like I said, i wasn't sure if it was a bad photo (and I haven't been interested enough to go looking at their website) but to me the whole keyboard looks nothing like a C64 and the colour looks off.


I think the colors are the same, but the C64x keyboard is flat while the C64 keyboard was stepped.
Title: Re: C64x on the used market!
Post by: VuData on September 20, 2011, 05:52:19 PM
Quote from: jorkany;660238
I think the colors are the same, but the C64x keyboard is flat while the C64 keyboard was stepped.


That's the major difference and I think that's why the picture looked so strange. Seems like a big thing to miss if you are going to go to all that effort to clone the original.
Title: Re: C64x on the used market!
Post by: Vlabguy1 on September 21, 2011, 05:29:41 PM
Quote from: VuData;660191
Good idea. From what I've heard we could just switch it on a wait until it self-immolates!



Wait?? what?  .. are the reviews of the "new" C64 not too good?  I have not followed since watching the unboxing videos on youtube..

Rich
ny
Title: Re: C64x on the used market!
Post by: runequester on September 21, 2011, 05:32:26 PM
Quote from: Vlabguy1;660433
Wait?? what?  .. are the reviews of the "new" C64 not too good?  I have not followed since watching the unboxing videos on youtube..

Rich
ny


a lot of people have complained on their website about overheating, and one person had his cd drive die on him. Other minor issues too.
Title: Re: C64x on the used market!
Post by: Vlabguy1 on September 21, 2011, 05:41:13 PM
Quote from: runequester;660434
a lot of people have complained on their website about overheating, and one person had his cd drive die on him. Other minor issues too.

ah so not too bad then.  Some of these things could be related to QC and or cheap components.  Doesn't seem like anything major or consistent.  The big question.. Is
Commodore USA honoring/fixing/replacing faulty units or components?

Rich
ny
Title: Re: C64x on the used market!
Post by: commodorejohn on September 21, 2011, 06:12:12 PM
It's not cheap components (at least not with the overheating,) it's poor design. The original release didn't even have the fan pointed anywhere near the board, so it was basically just relying on residual induction from airflow through a completely empty part of the case to move hot air away from the heatsink. I gather they've added another fan, but they also kicked it up to a freakin' i7, as if the Atom wasn't running hot enough...
Title: Re: C64x on the used market!
Post by: nicholas on September 21, 2011, 06:49:29 PM
Keep an eye on http://www.commodoreamiga.ir for news regarding genuine Commodore and Amiga computers.
Title: Re: C64x on the used market!
Post by: Rob on September 21, 2011, 09:43:39 PM
Quote from: nicholas;660445
Keep an eye on http://www.commodoreamiga.ir for news regarding genuine Commodore and Amiga computers.

Just make sure they only get into the hands of hundreds of thousands students and protesters using twitter.  If a few hundred are bought by a scientific organization  expect to be asked tough questions about how and why you shipped computers to the axis of evil.
Title: Re: C64x on the used market!
Post by: Vlabguy1 on September 21, 2011, 10:06:46 PM
Quote from: commodorejohn;660438
It's not cheap components (at least not with the overheating,) it's poor design. The original release didn't even have the fan pointed anywhere near the board, so it was basically just relying on residual induction from airflow through a completely empty part of the case to move hot air away from the heatsink. I gather they've added another fan, but they also kicked it up to a freakin' i7, as if the Atom wasn't running hot enough...


yeah.. I shouldn't have used the word "cheap"  I just meant that it could just be inconsistencies in quality of some of the parts they are using, not to the fault of
Commodore per say.  I mean Apple SuperDrives fail too, just saying.  But the
real key is Commodore USA taking care of these issues?  Not just in future builds
but also for the people who have purchased these C64's?
Thats what I would care about if I bought one.  Just look at when Apple first release the Intel laptops, they had a multitude of issues, but I think Apple took care of them for the most part.

Rich
ny
Title: Re: C64x on the used market!
Post by: nicholas on September 21, 2011, 10:13:14 PM
Quote from: Rob;660480
Just make sure they only get into the hands of hundreds of thousands students and protesters using twitter.


Oh, you mean the middle class drug users in Northern Tehran?  They won't be able to afford our products as they spend all their money on opium and crack.

Quote
If a few hundred are bought by a scientific organization  expect to be asked tough questions about how and why you shipped computers to the axis of evil.


We are an Iranian company, not American, so shipping products to ourselves makes sense.
Title: Re: C64x on the used market!
Post by: Darrin on September 21, 2011, 10:17:24 PM
Quote from: commodorejohn;660438
It's not cheap components (at least not with the overheating,) it's poor design. The original release didn't even have the fan pointed anywhere near the board, so it was basically just relying on residual induction from airflow through a completely empty part of the case to move hot air away from the heatsink. I gather they've added another fan, but they also kicked it up to a freakin' i7, as if the Atom wasn't running hot enough...


That should make things interesting.  My laptop is an i7 and when I'm playing WoW you can hear the fans kick in and you get blasts of hot air out of the vents you can cook with.  However the case itself remains cool.  Obviously HP had a good design team.
Title: Re: C64x on the used market!
Post by: ajlwalker on September 22, 2011, 03:08:25 AM
Quote from: nicholas;660487
Oh, you mean the middle class drug users in Northern Tehran?  They won't be able to afford our products as they spend all their money on opium and crack.



We are an Iranian company, not American, so shipping products to ourselves makes sense.


If you are really based in the UK as your location suggests, then you must comply with UKHMT sanctions legislation.
Title: Re: C64x on the used market!
Post by: AmigaNG on September 22, 2011, 07:44:43 AM
if you think the C64x or AmigaOne X1000 might be over priced look at Commodores plans for the Amiga

http://www.commodore-amiga.org/forum/27-commodore-usa/8551-phone-call-with-barry?lang=en#8569

"here's a typical config for a mid priced new Amiga

1-Case (IMHO, there is nothing better) hope you agree           $1000
1-RVD3X2-FHPX4-960G  (for OS + Apps)                              $3000 +
2-NVIDIA Quadro 6000                                                      $7000 +

We are already over $11K, and we haven't even talked about memory,hdd storage, cooling, cpu's, motherboards etc.

The entry level will be about $2500-5000" from Barry!

:crazy: ok they are going for the industry market but still $1000 for just the case!