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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: runequester on September 08, 2011, 09:19:21 PM
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Terminally broke at the moment, so haven't been able to procure a proper monitor yet.
I am able to display using the VGA adapter I have, so some experiences from that:
Workbench looks pretty good in dblPAL hi res mode and the multiscan productivity mode. Very enjoyable actually.
A couple of games plays nice with VGA modes (Gloom, Nemac IV, Testament II. Doomattack)
Found an app called "modepro" which lets deluxe paint and a few others work. Managed to get a few more games to work (EOB 1 and 2, Dune 2, Sim city, UFO, Civilization and Colonization)
So at least I can use the girl, even though its not that functional.
The alternative is composite to an NTSC tv, which, at best is grey. Mostly it doesn't do a damn thing :)
On the upside, threw some MP3s on my amiga and I was surprised. Sure, its not amazing quality but it still sounded pretty good (Iron Maiden's Powerslave, if anyone was wondering)
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Don't forget, ScummVM AGA also supports VGA mode so that will bring another 30 odd games to the table ;)
I'm currently running my WB in MultiScan (while I await the IndivisionAGA Mrk2) and it looks pretty good.
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well, no time like the present to check that out then. Thanks!
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Workbench looks pretty good in dblPAL hi res mode and the multiscan productivity mode. Very enjoyable actually.
If you like dblpal then try this.
http://aminet.net/package/driver/moni/HighGFX40_6
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hot damn. Sam&Max on my amiga. Life is good. I'll have to get a few more of these old adventurer games :)
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hot damn. Sam&Max on my amiga. Life is good. I'll have to get a few more of these old adventurer games :)
Cool glad you like it :)
Here's a complete list of games playable in VGA mode on an AGA machine using ScummVM AGA v1.3.1.003
Maniac Mansion
Zak McKracken and the Alien Mindbenders
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
Loom
Passport to Adventure
The Secret of Monkey Island
Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge
Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
Day of the Tentacle
Sam & Max Hit the Road
Full Throttle
The Dig
The Curse of Monkey Island
Simon the Sorcerer 1
Simon the Sorcerer 2
Beneath a Steel Sky
Cruise for a Corpse
The Black Cauldron
Gold Rush!
King's Quest I
King's Quest II
King's Quest III
King's Quest IV
Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lounge Lizards
Mixed-Up Mother Goose
Manhunter 1: New York
Manhunter 2: San Francisco
Police Quest I: In Pursuit of the Death Angel
Space Quest I: The Sarien Encounter
Space Quest II: Vohaul's Revenge
Fanmade Games
Mickey's Space Adventure
Troll's Tale
Winnie the Pooh in the Hundred Acre Wood
Castle of Dr. Brain (EGA and VGA)
Codename: ICEMAN
Conquests of Camelot
Conquests of the Longbow (EGA and VGA)
EcoQuest: The Search for Cetus
EcoQuest 2: Lost Secret of the Rainforest
Freddy Pharkas: Frontier Pharmacist
Hoyle's Book of Games 1
Hoyle's Book of Games 2
Hoyle's Book of Games 3 (EGA and VGA)
Hoyle Classic Card Games
Jones in the Fast Lane
King's Quest I (SCI remake)
King's Quest IV (SCI version)
King's Quest V (EGA and VGA)
King's Quest VI (low and hi res)
Laura Bow: The Colonel's Bequest
Laura Bow 2: The Dagger of Amon Ra
Leisure Suit Larry 1 (SCI remake) (EGA and VGA)
Leisure Suit Larry 2
Leisure Suit Larry 3
Leisure Suit Larry 5 (EGA and VGA)
Leisure Suit Larry 6 (low res)
Mixed-up Fairy Tales
Mixed-up Mother Goose
Pepper's Adventures in Time
Police Quest 1 (SCI remake)
Police Quest 2
Police Quest 3 (EGA and VGA)
Quest for Glory 1/Hero's Quest
Quest for Glory 1 VGA remake
Quest for Glory 2
Quest for Glory 3
Slater & Charlie Go Camping
Space Quest I (SCI remake) (EGA and VGA)
Space Quest III
Space Quest IV (EGA and VGA)
Space Quest V
The Island of Dr. Brain
Discworld
Flight of the Amazon Queen
The Legend of Kyrandia
The Legend of Kyrandia: Book Two: Hand of Fate
The Legend of Kyrandia: Book Three: Malcolm's Revenge
Have fun....
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Cool glad you like it :)
Here's a complete list of games playable in VGA mode on an AGA machine using ScummVM AGA v1.3.1.003
Could I use a real Roland MT32 for sound? (I have one)
I'm waiting for a MIDI adapter to pop up for sale in the US.
I do have a usb MAUDIO Uno and a Subway adapter, but i have never tried that combo.
Poseidon docs says it supports simplemidi.class & camdusbmidi.class
My A1200 is only a 030-40mhz and my HDD only goes 900K/sec or so.
thanks.
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Could I use a real Roland MT32 for sound? (I have one)
I'm waiting for a MIDI adapter to pop up for sale in the US.
I do have a usb MAUDIO Uno and a Subway adapter, but i have never tried that combo.
Poseidon docs says it supports simplemidi.class & camdusbmidi.class
My A1200 is only a 030-40mhz and my HDD only goes 900K/sec or so.
thanks.
Hiya,
Nope, I haven't bothered to code in any native MIDI support (too lazy).
Your HD rate is very slow, I'm getting about 4.5 MB/s out of my 1200.
Most of the older games (eg DOTT) should still run ok on your setup if you disable the MIDI music emulation and keep the playback rate at 8K.
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Nope, I haven't bothered to code in any native MIDI support (too lazy).
Your HD rate is very slow, I'm getting about 4.5 MB/s out of my 1200.
Bummer about the MIDI. Do you think you'll add MIDI support in the future? That would be a killer feature.
I don't know why my 1200 is so slow on the HD. I have a 4xEIDE'99 and a a SSD drive.
It was a little faster with the CF, but not much... nowhere near 4.5 MB/SEC
Thanks fort the hard work!
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Full Throttle :confused: Amiga Version?!
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Yep a special Amiga AGA version was released back in the 90's, check it out in action right here -> Full Throttle AGA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1ab50oK_yc)
Apparently they also released Curse of Monkey Island for Amiga back in the day -> Cursed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6aChpQNQxo)
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On the upside, threw some MP3s on my amiga and I was surprised. Sure, its not amazing quality but it still sounded pretty good (Iron Maiden's Powerslave, if anyone was wondering)
If you want amazing quality, do a quick convert to ADPCM4. I've played them at 230kbs, 27400khz. (on a double scan screen, they will play back at 56khz). It takes about 10 seconds to convert an MP3 using 'quick media converter'.
Listen to 'Lightshaft' and 'we come in peace' by Demo group elude for a qality comparison. The compression is quite good, and they can be zipped/lha'd further.
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I'll look into that :)
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I'm using a VGA CRT monitor here with that VGA dongle. This thing is great for Workbench and I have made a custom double NTSC driver which gives me 672x562 in 94 hertz interlaced (there's NO flicker and it's faster than Productivity mode). Useless for 15Khz stuff, of course ;)
If you want amazing quality, do a quick convert to ADPCM4. I've played them at 230kbs, 27400khz. (on a double scan screen, they will play back at 56khz).
It's better to convert them to WAV format. For double scanned screens they don't have to be down sampled (both 44Khz and 48Khz are not a problem). For 15Khz screen modes use SOX (or any other program that offers high quality down sampling) on the peecee to down sample to 28Khz. That sounds quite good (as long as you have a calibration file).
Anyway, don't use 4 bit ADPCM, it's too lossy. Use 8 bit ADPCM (very good) or 16 bit WAV, and never let the music player do the down sampling. High quality down sampling is probably not what those players do (it's beyond the scope of the players, and it's quite heavy on the cpu), use proper high quality down sampling.
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I dont know if youve resolved your amiga monitor "problems" yet, but while browsing aminet I found this: http://aminet.net/package/game/patch/Frontier2AGA
Looks like you might be able to add frontier to the list of games you can play on a VGA monitor :)
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I've used bootcontrol before. It promotes most apps (even early startup) to dblntsc/pal or vga.
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Yep a special Amiga AGA version was released back in the 90's, check it out in action right here -> Full Throttle AGA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1ab50oK_yc)
Apparently they also released Curse of Monkey Island for Amiga back in the day -> Cursed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6aChpQNQxo)
Off topic but.. any idea what I need to get these 2 games running? A special AGA version you say, was that commercially available? Sorry, this is a blank page in my Amiga history..
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Found an app called "modepro" which lets deluxe paint and a few others work. Managed to get a few more games to work (EOB 1 and 2, Dune 2, Sim city, UFO, Civilization and Colonization)
I've love to hear how you got DPaint to mode promote. It's never worked for many of us. But perhaps that's because I've only ever tried RTG modes. Is it actually fully functional? What version of DPaint?
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@rvo_nl
Nah, they were just pc versions running on scummvm. I dont understand why people have a tendancy to twist the truth like that (not novacoder himself, but the people who tried to palm software off as an amiga version).
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@rvo_nl
Nah, they were just pc versions running on scummvm. I dont understand why people have a tendancy to twist the truth like that (not novacoder himself, but the people who tried to palm software off as an amiga version).
rvo_nl all you need to know -> ScummVM AGA (http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=56815) ;)
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I've love to hear how you got DPaint to mode promote. It's never worked for many of us. But perhaps that's because I've only ever tried RTG modes. Is it actually fully functional? What version of DPaint?
Dpaint V can use just about any screen mode. Dpaint IV will look like it works with modepro but it'll crash
I dont know if youve resolved your amiga monitor "problems" yet, but while browsing aminet I found this: http://aminet.net/package/game/patch/Frontier2AGA
Looks like you might be able to add frontier to the list of games you can play on a VGA monitor :)
awesome. Thanks! Now I wish we weren't travelling out of town for vacation