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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: orb85750 on September 05, 2011, 02:49:33 AM
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Did anyone here participate in the bidding war?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/190570703013?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
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WOW! That is amazing to me. There must be something really special about that 4000T!
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Wow! Theres a sucker born every minute.
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Meh!
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Did anyone here participate in the bidding war?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/190570703013?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
No, but I watched the mayhem.:laughing:
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Well..., seller is rolling in cash right now making snow angels (when he get it):roflmao:
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Probably had something to do with this: (emphasis mine)
Amiga 4000T tower
50 MHz 68060 cpu
880k Amiga floppy
Apple cd-rom drive
IBM 4 gig hard drive
Iomega 100 meg Zip drive
Kensington “Mouse in a Box PC” serial mouse with adapter
Standard Amiga keyboard
640 megs of RAM. Not a typo.
128 megs of RAM on motherboard
Two 256 meg RAM ZoRam cards in Zorro 3 slots
Picasso IV 4 meg 24 bit graphics card
Ariadne II ethernet networking card
Compact Flash drive mounted in Zorro bay
2 keys that lockout the computer. Yes, it came new with these, yes I still have them.
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I know this will get me hate replies but why would anyone pay this? You could put $4k towards an amazing PC and run WinUAE on it. WinUAE is not real hardware but it will be much, much faster than that setup. Plus, you can run current software along with your Amiga software.
I know the die-hards are all about true Amiga hardware but I just don't see how people justify that kind of money.
To each his own, I guess, but that is either the ultimate collector or the sucker that PT keeps talking about.
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Sold to some guy from Nigeria who will send him a cheque for $10,000, ask him to deduct the $4,000 and then send him the Amiga plus the other $6,000 to an address in Florida. ;)
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I know this will get me hate replies but why would anyone pay this? You could put $4k towards an amazing PC and run WinUAE on it. WinUAE is not real hardware but it will be much, much faster than that setup. Plus, you can run current software along with your Amiga software.
I know the die-hards are all about true Amiga hardware but I just don't see how people justify that kind of money.
To each his own, I guess, but that is either the ultimate collector or the sucker that PT keeps talking about.
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As someone who uses WinUAE, Minimigs and real Amigas, all I can say is that you can "feel" the difference between emulation and the genuine article.
It's like asking someone why they want to drive a 1960's Jaguar instead of a 2011 model, when the new model is just so much faster and comfortable. :)
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As someone who uses WinUAE, Minimigs and real Amigas, all I can say is that you can "feel" the difference between emulation and the genuine article.
It's like asking someone why they want to drive a 1960's Jaguar instead of a 2011 model, when the new model is just so much faster and comfortable. :)
I agree but at the same time... I think that I would actually prefer WinUAE than spending that amount of money on it. Also the NG amigas feals just as much Amiga as my a4k does.
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How'd they get the motherboard to support 128MB? Thought the 4000T, like the 4000, etc., only had room for 16MB + 2MB Chip?
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How'd they get the motherboard to support 128MB? Thought the 4000T, like the 4000, etc., only had room for 16MB + 2MB Chip?
they didnt,he was wrong its on the accelerator.
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I agree but at the same time... I think that I would actually prefer WinUAE than spending that amount of money on it.
I agree. $1000 would buy a very nice PC setup with Amiga Forever and the remaining $3000 would pay for a flight to Rio de Janero where I would spend a week shagging my way around Copacabana.
I certainly wouldn't waste $4000 on an old computer! :D
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they didnt,he was wrong its on the accelerator.
Not familiar with the ZorRAM, are we? :-)
D'oh
Never mind..
I can't do math.. :-)
You're right..
desiv
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I coulda ended up with one of these minus the '060 for $500 last spring and kinda kick myself that I passed.
I did get to pick up 2 A4000 desktops, one with a CS '060-PPC 233 and 4000 toaster for less though so I am not complaining. :)
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Did anyone here participate in the bidding war?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/190570703013?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
for $4000 I would want USB.
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Sold to some guy from Nigeria who will send him a cheque for $10,000, ask him to deduct the $4,000 and then send him the Amiga plus the other $6,000 to an address in Florida. ;)
Hey, don't involve Florida!
Actually, you are right. This place is the land of scams.
I once paid a fake parking lot attendant.
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I agree. $1000 would buy a very nice PC setup with Amiga Forever and the remaining $3000 would pay for a flight to Rio de Janero where I would spend a week shagging my way around Copacabana.
I certainly wouldn't waste $4000 on an old computer! :D
lol, sounds like a much way to spend $4000 :-) .
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Heres one in Germany for 530 Euro
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Amiga-4000-Tower-4000T-A4000-Commodore-/190570306452?pt=Klassische_Computer&hash=item2c5ee01b94
and 060 CSMKII for 500Euro
http://www.ebay.de/itm/CYBERSTORM-MKII-SCSI-64MB-Commodore-Amiga-4000-3000-/270808866232?pt=Klassische_Computer&hash=item3f0d775db8
Auctions not ended. But will be interesting to see what the 4000t fetches.
Weed
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It's something stupid that makes my face to appear just as "bleah" :( , something that doesn't make me proud of being an "amigan".
Foolish crazy people... there are too many...
Anyway it's freedom of choice.
BY!
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I love using my A4000T with all its Amiga goodness, but is it worth $4000:rofl:? Would I sell it for $4000? Your damn straight I would, all the way to the bank:hammer:. Why should I deprive an individual the joy of using such an awesome classic machine at a price that he/she determines for themselves.
Mike
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If you look at the pics he has up you can see the ram count on the work bench screen.
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I had it in my watch list, but, I was scared away from bidding by the high ship price.
Little did I know ... :-O
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That's just insane. Who would spend that on any classic Amiga. I'm glad I've stuck with just my old A3000/030. Does all the classic stuff I may need.
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I don't think a mint *Commodore* A4000T is even worth quite $4000 with all those upgrades?
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I don't think a mint *Commodore* A4000T is even worth quite $4000 with all those upgrades?
Well the A4000Ts don't exactly fall out of trees and if you add up teh cost in time and effort of tracking down all of the additional parts in this machine, testing them, installing them, configuring them, etc then it is pretty easy to justify $4,000. Trying to convince your wife that it is worth $4,000 is something entirely different. :D
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mmm this gets me thinking.. hehe I have two of these bad boys :)..
Rich
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@Darrin,
Yes I would rather ride in the new Jag with the A/C, AM/FM/USB/CD stereo, with the winter heated seats, and summer flow though seats then a bumpy old slow ugly looking worn out 1960 Jaguar.
Besides that who would want to buy a Jag in the first place, its a British piece of junk, rather have a Porsche or a Maserati. Wouldn't take a Vette if they gave it to me, darn things are made in Mexico. Not worth the money you pay for them.
Speaking of that "If Amiga was manufactured today what country would it be made in?) China, Mexico or Germany.
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in ebay germany the last year sold nearly 4000 euros one but it was the commodore version of which only 50 units were built and pick up only ,and without USB ;-)
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An original rare Commodore 4000T sold on eBay 3-4 years ago for just over £2000. I thought at the time it was expensive and didn't increase my bid, but looking back now 2k for an original probably would have been a good investment.
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Deal didn't go through. It's been relisted. $1800 takes it away.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultimate-Amiga-4000T-Loaded-/380370650569?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588fdb85c9
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Deal didn't go through. It's been relisted. $1800 takes it away.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultimate-Amiga-4000T-Loaded-/380370650569?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588fdb85c9
errr.... are you sure it doesn't say $0.88c? :confused:
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errr.... are you sure it doesn't say $0.88c? :confused:
Look again
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Hmmm no PPC? Bit pricey.
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Will be pricey as the bidders who didn't win last time want to make sure they do this time around...
About two weeks ago I got a A4000T sold as defective back to life again, but if I add a 060 and PicassoIV card to it (if I was able to find them in the first place) it will end up in the same price region.
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@mousehouse
I wouldn't bet on it, esp. if its not that rare type made by C=
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The listing is gone...
Rich
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What idiots. All it takes is a handful of stupid people with too much money to keep these vultures in business, and that keeps prices up where the rest of us can't get them, and that's why we can't have nice things >=(
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What idiots. (
Just wondering..
How many idiots does it take to make it fair market value???? Hmmm
desiv
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The listing is gone...
Rich
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Thank you for your interest in this listing:
380370650569 - Ultimate Amiga 4000T. Loaded.
Unfortunately, the listing is no longer available. We understand that this may be disappointing, but sometimes we need to remove listings to protect buyers.
There are three main reasons why we remove listings:
-- The listing doesn't follow eBay guidelines.
-- The item isn't allowed on eBay or can only be listed under certain conditions.
-- The listing contains pictures or words in it that may have created copyright or trademark issues.
I got as far as $600 (Hey it had Free international shipping) :), and I gave up, I might have gone up to around AU$1000, but I was going to think about it, now its gone.
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Just wondering..
How many idiots does it take to make it fair market value???? Hmmm
desiv
No amount of idiots can make overpriced into not overpriced.
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Thank you for your interest in this listing:
380370650569 - Ultimate Amiga 4000T. Loaded.
Unfortunately, the listing is no longer available. We understand that this may be disappointing, but sometimes we need to remove listings to protect buyers.
There are three main reasons why we remove listings:
-- The listing doesn't follow eBay guidelines.
-- The item isn't allowed on eBay or can only be listed under certain conditions.
-- The listing contains pictures or words in it that may have created copyright or trademark issues.
I got as far as $600 (Hey it had Free international shipping) :), and I gave up, I might have gone up to around AU$1000, but I was going to think about it, now its gone.
Oh well. But hey these things are getting quite scarce as far as coming up for sale/auction.
Rich
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The listing stated that he would sell it for the first $1800 right at the top of the description. He probably got offered that much within hours of listing it. It does sound like a very rare A4000T, maybe even rarer than the commodore ones. A motherboard with slots for 128mb of ram and an 060 processor card with slots for another 512mb. They didn't make very many of those.
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The listing stated that he would sell it for the first $1800 right at the top of the description. He probably got offered that much within hours of listing it. It does sound like a very rare A4000T, maybe even rarer than the commodore ones. A motherboard with slots for 128mb of ram and an 060 processor card with slots for another 512mb. They didn't make very many of those.
Perhaps, but if he got his immediate offer of $1800, it would still be listed but as a Closed/Finished auction, and Ebay would not have sent out the email saying it was "REMOVED".
The ebay email implies that EBAY removed the listing, not the seller.
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Maybe the previous auction winner claimed the machine?
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Just checked my email and also received an email from Ebay. It actually stated the sellers account might have been misused / hacked... another auction for a quad-core Mac Pro was also cancelled.
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Actually it would be interesting to put this to the test at one of the Amiga conventions. I suspect it's one of people knowing what they are using and it affects what they think.
If you couldn't see the box you are running on, would you still know? Assuming you don't run the emulator at insane speeds, of course....
As someone who uses WinUAE, Minimigs and real Amigas, all I can say is that you can "feel" the difference between emulation and the genuine article.
It's like asking someone why they want to drive a 1960's Jaguar instead of a 2011 model, when the new model is just so much faster and comfortable. :)
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Maybe the previous auction winner claimed the machine?
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Just checked my email and also received an email from Ebay. It actually stated the sellers account might have been misused / hacked... another auction for a quad-core Mac Pro was also cancelled.
Totally possible considering the amount the A4000T originally sold for. A few years ago, I would get a false second chance offer on almost any Amiga I bid on including one auction I won. Ebay made bidder's ID anonymous around that time to deal with that problem. This could be a new approach by the same sort of fraudsters.
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It's just been listed again and it looks like a different seller from the original so it looks like fraud. I would say the scammers have mulitple accounts that have been hijacked and saw how much the A4000T sold for and are trying to use hijacked accounts to fraudulently list it. I already reported it to eBay but their report form doesn't list fraudulent listings as a reason to report.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultimate-Amiga-4000T-Loaded-/190578983444?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c5f648214
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It's just been listed again and it looks like a different seller from the original so it looks like fraud. I would say the scammers have mulitple accounts that have been hijacked and saw how much the A4000T sold for and are trying to use hijacked accounts to fraudulently list it. I already reported it to eBay but their report form doesn't list fraudulent listings as a reason to report.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultimate-Amiga-4000T-Loaded-/190578983444?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c5f648214
Uh oh, Spaghettio's...., Removed.
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Nice machine, but $4k???? seriously someone (or some people) have way too much unwanted cash. Wish I had that money to throw on an Amiga :)
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Uh oh, Spaghettio's...., Removed.
I hope the legitimate seller noticed something wrong with his listings. It was an Ebay store specialized in golf items. I reported it as something like wrong location. Amazing that you can't just report an item as suspected fraud. I only check new amiga items about once or twice a day and they could have listed it several times in the last few days with different sellers. It lasted about an hour this time. The listing for the original auction for $4000 is still online.
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Sold to some guy from Nigeria who will send him a cheque for $10,000, ask him to deduct the $4,000 and then send him the Amiga plus the other $6,000 to an address in Florida. ;)
:roflmao:
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Listed again with a different seller. Lasted less than 10 minutes this time from the moment it popped up on my ebay search. The fraud is obvious. The fraudsters are using hacked ebay accounts of sellers with good feedback and using a cut and paste of the item description from the original listing. The after effect of getting such an outrageous price is some outrageous fraud.