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Title: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: fishy_fiz on September 04, 2011, 09:17:15 PM
Ive really been in the mood to make a classic amiga game lately. Usually when this happens I start, get a few routines done, then get over ambitious and eventually lose interest. I made a new years resolution that 2011 would be the year I release some sort of original work, but instead I just did about 100 ports of various bits and pieces for AROS and OS3.x. While this is its own sort of fun it doesnt really compare to to making something from the ground up.

All that said and done Id like (again) to try to break my bad habbit of losing focus by making a simple game that will work on an a500 (I only have an a1200 and amithlon machines, but targetting them could lead to "feature creep").

Now this said and done Im thinking remaking an older 8bit game from c64, speccy, amstrad cpc, etc. might be a bit of fun, not to mention potentially quicker than something completely original (or from a more advanced system)

Anyone have any suggestions as to what theyd like to see on the Amiga? Preferably something that doesnt already exist on the Amiga. Im happy to use ripped gfx for the moment as the focus for me is getting a game running rather than creating any sort of audiovisual masterpiece. In fact gfx and sound are somewhat of a distraction from the actual game (at least for now). Speed of development (and pure fun) are more important for now (so no big rpgs, etc. for the moment).

I think Ive probably started a thread like this before, but hopefully this time I can stick with it and break my bad habbit of losing motivation and focus.
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: ddniUK on September 04, 2011, 09:21:10 PM
Hi,
The plus/4 version Saboteur would be great on the Amiga

(http://www.zspline.net/blog/wp-content/gallery/page_about/saboteur_s.jpg)
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: XDelusion on September 04, 2011, 09:43:30 PM
From Atari 8-bit:

Bruce Lee (one better than the one on Aminet).

Warlords/Castle Crisis

Montazuma's Revenge

Yoomp ;)
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: Xanxi on September 04, 2011, 09:51:33 PM
Batman from the Amstrad CPC.
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: Gryfon on September 04, 2011, 10:02:22 PM
Definitely "Rescue on Fractalus!", back from the Atari 8-Bit era.  There's an "alpha" version for PC which is OK, but I would lay down hard cash for the chance to play it on a more modern (ahem!) system; to play it on my Miggy would be a dream come true.

Might be tricky; I'm no mathematician but the original used fractal-generating routines to product its' pseudo 3D effect (on an 8-BIT MACHINE!); also ranks up there for providing some tense and scary moments when waiting for the pilots to run up to the door...
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: kamelito on September 04, 2011, 10:11:31 PM
Quote from: fishy_fiz;657910
Ive really been in the mood to make a classic amiga game lately. Usually when this happens I start, get a few routines done, then get over ambitious and eventually lose interest. I made a new years resolution that 2011 would be the year I release some sort of original work, but instead I just did about 100 ports of various bits and pieces for AROS and OS3.x. While this is its own sort of fun it doesnt really compare to to making something from the ground up.

All that said and done Id like (again) to try to break my bad habbit of losing focus by making a simple game that will work on an a500 (I only have an a1200 and amithlon machines, but targetting them could lead to "feature creep").

Now this said and done Im thinking remaking an older 8bit game from c64, speccy, amstrad cpc, etc. might be a bit of fun, not to mention potentially quicker than something completely original (or from a more advanced system)

Anyone have any suggestions as to what theyd like to see on the Amiga? Preferably something that doesnt already exist on the Amiga. Im happy to use ripped gfx for the moment as the focus for me is getting a game running rather than creating any sort of audiovisual masterpiece. In fact gfx and sound are somewhat of a distraction from the actual game (at least for now). Speed of development (and pure fun) are more important for now (so no big rpgs, etc. for the moment).

I think Ive probably started a thread like this before, but hopefully this time I can stick with it and break my bad habbit of losing motivation and focus.

  Zelda a link to the past (16bits ok) Nemesis on the C64.  Kamel
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: giZmo350 on September 04, 2011, 10:34:22 PM
Bruce Lee
Even better would be Castles of Dr. Creep!
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: Amiduffer on September 04, 2011, 11:55:45 PM
Hero.
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: darkknight772010 on September 05, 2011, 12:02:07 AM
I remember spending hours as a kid during school holidays playing Park Patrol on the Commodore 64. There was just something really addictive about running around collecting rubbish whilst trying to avoid being attacked by dogs, people, snakes or just about anything else that could move! Also on the C64 was Mayhem in Monsterland which had amazing graphics (for the C64 anyway) but I could never get past the first level, plus it took days to load off tape...
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: Matt_H on September 05, 2011, 12:17:12 AM
Wizard (http://www.lemon64.com/?mainurl=http%3A//www.lemon64.com/games/details.php%3FID%3D2753) is my perennial favorite.
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: XDelusion on September 05, 2011, 02:29:15 AM
Can the Amiga use Atari or C64 Paddles?
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: Darrin on September 05, 2011, 03:07:41 AM
"Shadowfire" and the sequel "Enigma Force" from the C64... or was it the other way around?

Nope, I was right:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denton_Designs
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: mongo on September 05, 2011, 03:21:26 AM
Quote from: XDelusion;657953
Can the Amiga use Atari or C64 Paddles?


Yes.
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: Tension on September 05, 2011, 03:44:23 AM
Booty from the C64.
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: XDelusion on September 05, 2011, 03:46:59 AM
Quote from: mongo;657959
Yes.



OK, then yes, put a super beautiful Warlords clone on my list! :)
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: fishy_fiz on September 06, 2011, 06:49:09 AM
I dont know if anyone is interested, but I think Ive made a decision. Firstly though, can anyone tell me if there's any Monty Mole games for the Amiga? I seem to vaguely recall there beig one, but couldnt find any.

Oh, and the choice,...... Monty On The Run.
Why?
Quite simple gameplay that I got addicted to while trying out some of the suggestions (or offshoots) here :)

The music should be fun to try to recreate too when I get to that point :)
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: Colani1200 on September 06, 2011, 07:51:13 AM
Quote from: Amiduffer;657941
Hero.


+1

I'd also like to see a port of these:

- Gyruss (NES)
- Snake Rattle 'N Roll (NES)
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: Mazze on September 06, 2011, 08:01:46 AM
Quote from: fishy_fiz;658146
Oh, and the choice,...... Monty On The Run.
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g069AFLtL40

:)
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g069AFLtL40)
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: nyteschayde on September 06, 2011, 08:41:39 AM
Quote from: XDelusion;657916
From Atari 8-bit:

Bruce Lee (one better than the one on Aminet).

Warlords/Castle Crisis

Montazuma's Revenge

Yoomp ;)
Oooh I double that for Montezuma's Revenge
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: Aussiholden on September 06, 2011, 09:07:34 AM
I had many hours of fun with Toy Bizarre, Plus there was a game my mates played for hours where you play a stunt man, and had to do stunts with precise accuracy.
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: michel3105 on September 06, 2011, 09:25:32 AM
For me, it would be Psytron, a great ZX Spectrum game by Beyond Software. But watch out: this game is also infamous because a bug in the last stage prevented anyone to complete it.
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: trekiej on September 06, 2011, 09:42:47 AM
Probably OT, Doom RL look cool.
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: fishy_fiz on September 07, 2011, 12:14:59 PM
As per usual my attention span warrants me being called a goldfish. I got as far as recreating one screen and interest is already waning.

http://oi53.tinypic.com/28vbq1i.jpg

Not particulary happy with the results, although I did somewhat cripple the potential by just ripping a c64 screenshot (very speccy-esque usually too) and touching it up using the existing screen palette (13 out of 16 c64 colors).

Looks better in native resoultion, but even them I appologize for any eyes it offends :P
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: B00tDisk on September 07, 2011, 12:57:26 PM
Activision's Aliens.
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: Faerytale on September 07, 2011, 02:54:51 PM
Crysis2 8-bit conversion :)
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: Rodomoc on September 07, 2011, 03:42:11 PM
C64 M.U.L.E. for me. Apparently someone started a port of this to the Amiga years ago but it was never finished or released. Could be very cool on the Amiga in my opinion.
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: tone007 on September 07, 2011, 03:51:52 PM
Tapper!
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: shaf on September 07, 2011, 06:56:12 PM
The closest you'll get to M.U.L.E is Traders.
I always wanted a Pinball Construction Set conversion.
Fairlight (Wizardry) was also an excellent game on the C64. (Although Edge put a Cease and Desist on a Retro Remake a few years ago)
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: save2600 on September 07, 2011, 09:04:55 PM
It'd be great to see professional, polished, as close to arcade perfect versions of:

Vector games:

Armor Attack
Space Duel
Boxing Bugs
Black Widow
Star Castle
War of the Worlds - but several enhancements would need to be made here such as: bonus mothership stage, multiple piece turret that allowed 2-3 hits before you died, etc.

Raster:

Montezuma's Revenge
Berzerk
Donkey Kong
Scramble
Zoo Keeper
Kaos
Tapper

...and for other translations:

Intellivision's Utopia, improved with keyboard control, improved graphics and speed up option

C64's Pinball Construction Set, with enhanced features and improved in all areas for Amiga.
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: fishy_fiz on September 07, 2011, 09:46:22 PM
Berzerk, now that brings back memories :) I used to play a great version on my old tandy trs80 coco1 when I was a younger fella.
Thanks for the suggestions everyone, although little actual work has been done Ive been having a nostalgic blast doing "researching" (playing) many of these games :)
I actually thought Montezuma's Revenge was a Monty Mole game though, which is what led me to Monty On The Run in the 1st place  :)

Not something I plan on converting (yet), but does anyone remember the c64 game "Master Of Magic"? Loved it back in the day and rediscovered it while looking into some of these games. Interesting and somewhat original RPG style game with a cool Rob Hubbard tune..... so many classic games, so little time :)
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: Seaquest on September 07, 2011, 09:48:07 PM
Would love these:

Monty on the Run
Cobra
Fist II
++++


Oh well, must go and play on my C64 now:-)
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: TNovosel on September 07, 2011, 09:52:15 PM
Quote from: fishy_fiz;658146
Firstly though, can anyone tell me if there's any Monty Mole games for the Amiga? I seem to vaguely recall there beig one, but couldnt find any.


Impossamole
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g7lq2ZxVGY
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: slaapliedje on September 07, 2011, 11:39:43 PM
I've got to add to this list;

Some already mentioned Bruce Lee, which I abosolutely loved as a kid.  Never could beat it the second time through.

Racing Destruction Set!  There was a retro remake someone was working on at one point, but then he just said he was going to stop it and wasn't going to open source it 'cause he MAY pick it up again...

Jumpan and Jumpman Jr.  Awesome games, though somehow the game let my brother cheat...

An updated version of Lucifer's Realm would be killer (though I think you'd want this to be AGA, since it's just a graphical text adventure.  If you want to try this game out on the Atari 8-bit, make sure you're emulating an old 800, or the 800XL using translator (it works but some of the pictures are black without this).

Those are the simpler ones.

If anyone wanted to take some stuff and port or reverse engineer, recreate whatever you call it, I think it'd be fantastic if someone did this to Phatansie 2 (1 and 3 came out for the Amiga, but 2 never did, though it came out for the Atari ST), and Ultima 1 and 2 never came out for the Amiga either (2 came out for the ST, 1 didn't come out for either.)  That would give us Ultimas 1-6, and I believe even 7 works with RTG and Exult.

There was a shooter I used to love called The Tail of Beta Lyrae.  Awesome game.

Something along the lines of a Tempest or Defender 2000 like what was on the Jag.  Basically an old vector game, transformed to have lots of pretty colors.  Major Havoc would be awesome!  That only ever came out as an arcade, but I loved the concept (You're in a space ship, you land on bases, hop out of your space ship, find the reactor, blow it up, go back to space ship, go to next stage.)  Reminds me of a 2 dimensional Captive.

Anyhow, that should get the blood boiling!

slaapliedje

P.S.  I seriously need to learn how to code.  Going to start off with Python, and probably move on to doing some C/C++ for the Amiga.
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: call FMPAC on September 08, 2011, 12:08:39 AM
"Save New York" (a 4 player version would be very cool !) :)
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: Drummerboy on September 08, 2011, 05:00:40 AM
A real H.E.R.O (exists any never finished Version in Aminet)

Pole Position

Jungle Hunt

Star Raiders

KungFu Master

Enduro (Atari 2600 Version) or Great American Cross Country Road Race
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: T3000 on September 08, 2011, 05:39:50 AM
I know the thread is kinda moot at this point, however, this C=64 title gets my vote.

(http://www.lemon64.com/covers/full/p/project_-_space_station.jpg)
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: Drummerboy on September 08, 2011, 06:55:35 AM
I forget

International Karate or Wolrd Karate Championship
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: gertsy on September 08, 2011, 01:26:50 PM
Horace goes skiing ?
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: Jpan1 on September 08, 2011, 02:04:01 PM
I Ball! :)
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: Hattig on September 08, 2011, 02:14:37 PM
A few off the top of my head.

Quazatron for the Spectrum was a neat game.
A massively enhanced version of Scuba Dive (again Spectrum).
Castles Of Doctor Creep! C64
The original Spindizzy (Amstrad CPC).
Necromancer (Atari 8-bit).
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: motrucker on September 08, 2011, 03:29:34 PM
I'll second Spinndizzy. I spent many hours with the C-64 version. That should work great on the Amiga.
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: Thorham on September 08, 2011, 07:46:05 PM
Kings Valley 2 (puzzle platformer) for the MSX 2.

Google images (http://www.google.nl/search?hl=nl&client=opera&hs=dIk&rls=en&channel=suggest&q=kings+valley+2+msx&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=6239l6342l0l7111l2l1l0l0l0l0l91l91l1l1l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1024&bih=662&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi)

Doubt it's needed, because it runs fine on AmiMsx. 68030+AGA is perfect (has to be slowed down, in fact), and you get the enhanced sound from the on-cartridge soundchip that the original game has. Could be interesting to enhance it based on the original graphics/music.
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: slaapliedje on September 08, 2011, 08:06:08 PM
Quote from: Drummerboy;658403
I forget

International Karate or Wolrd Karate Championship

Those are already available for Amiga.  At least IK+ is.

Something like The Way of the Exploding Fist would be cool.

slaapliedje
Title: Re: Any 8bit classics you'd like to see on Amiga?
Post by: fishy_fiz on September 08, 2011, 08:46:28 PM
Lots of good suggestions here, but maybe I shouldve made a poll. There's quite a few that would be fun to remake, but Im only one person. A poll would show me what might be popular. As much as Im doing this for my own fun its more enjoyable if at least a few others are also interested. A poll would show what might have a little popularity. So far there's 3 or 4 titles that Id include in such a poll, and 1 or 2 other potentials.

Feel free to keep 'em coming and I'll make a poll once Ive got a few more to chose from.