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Seems like the singer Amy Winehouse has died from a drug overdose, never was a fan or even liked her music but it's still kinda sad that yet another popstar has died so young and all because of drugs... :(
Why so many people (rich, famous or poor & anonymous ) feel the need to take drugs and cut their lives short is one thing I'll never understand, such a waste of life... :(
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+1 :(
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I don't think the problem is just drugs. Many people take drugs, they eventually quit them or just die because of health problems or accidents, but they don't commit suicide. I think very often, and I dare to say majority of times it happens because the victims believe nobody really cares for them.
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It is a pity the sellers of drug from London are going to weep for its loss, have lost its best client, but in its record company they must be of holidays, now they are going to sell its new disc easily.
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It is a pity the sellers of drug from London are going to weep for its loss, have lost its best client, but in its record company they must be of holidays, now they are going to sell its new disc easily.
Very true and nothing cynical in what you said... ;)
There is a simple solution to the "Drugs Problem" if the government & police can't see to be effective in getting rid of the drug dealers then deal with it at it's source... ie: the users... :)
The answer is really quite simple arrest & execute anyone who is a drug user thus eliminating the drug dealers customer base and so no users = no drug dealers... :)
Of course this would mean a drastic cull of the population in most parts of the world including MPs, Police, Judges, Lawers, Doctors, Nurses and any other profession you care to mention, but think of the benefits, it's a win win solution... :)
PS: and for those who claim they take illegal drugs for medicinal purposes, I say bollocks, I've known a number of people who claimed that and know for a fact they were nothing but liars... ;)
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PS: and for those who claim they take illegal drugs for medicinal purposes, I say bollocks, I've known a number of people who claimed that and know for a fact they were nothing but liars... ;)
Cannabis is the only medicine that eases the symptoms of Multiple Sclerosis.
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Cannabis is the only medicine that eases the symptoms of Multiple Sclerosis.
Yeah I know someone personally who told me that, trouble was we (all his friends) found out after about 3 years there was sod all wrong with the git and he was just using it to screw the social... suffice to say he got a very large fine and now has to work for a living (and has a lot less friends)... ;)
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Yeah I know someone personally who told me that, trouble was we (all his friends) found out after about 3 years there was sod all wrong with the git and he was just using it to screw the social... suffice to say he got a very large fine and now has to work for a living (and has a lot less friends)... ;)
You can't fake MS.
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You can't fake MS.
This guy did and even to this day no-one has a clue how he managed to con the social for 3 years solid with it... :madashell:
He started of by always moaning that his legs were kinda numb and he could do much for himself anymore, then it was his arms and then his speech (he was an alcoholic by the way). Anyway he got early retirement from Tarmac where I worked at the time and for about 2 years he had me and all his friends and our wives doing everything for him...
The thing that made everyone suspicious was how he somehow managed to make it to the pub 7 days week and as he got more drunk his speech improved and he could even manage to play pool without any problems...
He was finally caught by the DHSS when they took pictures of him fishing with some mates and larking about and actually helping two others who where with him on this fishing trip, lift another person up and throw him in the river for a laugh... :furious:
As far as we know he had to pay back 3 years worth of DLA & incapacity benefit along with a fine, they got him a job as a binman (which he still does to this very day, when sober that is) and as far as we know he is still paying off the fine and the money back... suffice to say after conning everyone he's not exactly welcome here anymore and thankfully moved to another part of town... ;)
I know cannabis is proven to be of medical value for certain medical conditions, but when you use it for "recreational" use then I'm happy to say that anyone who does so and it either ruins their life or leads them to harder drugs, I have no sympathy for them whatsoever... :)
It's quite simple... if it weren't for the users there would be no drug dealers... :)
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Very true and nothing cynical in what you said... ;)
There is a simple solution to the "Drugs Problem" if the government & police can't see to be effective in getting rid of the drug dealers then deal with it at it's source... ie: the users... :)
The answer is really quite simple arrest & execute anyone who is a drug user thus eliminating the drug dealers customer base and so no users = no drug dealers... :)
Of course this would mean a drastic cull of the population in most parts of the world including MPs, Police, Judges, Lawers, Doctors, Nurses and any other profession you care to mention, but think of the benefits, it's a win win solution... :)
PS: and for those who claim they take illegal drugs for medicinal purposes, I say bollocks, I've known a number of people who claimed that and know for a fact they were nothing but liars... ;)
Funny you say all this as i had this same idea about cigarette smokers.
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Funny you say all this as i had this same idea about cigarette smokers.
The big difference is being a cigarette smoker it's...
A) Legal & fully endorsed by the government... :)
B) on each packet of tobacco I buy I pay 85% of the purchase price on TAX... :(
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C) Smoking fags doesn't rot me brain, make me say wow man at the end of every sentence or make me jump off tall buildings thinking I can fly... :)
oh and...
D) Encourage and benefit scumbag drug dealers to get rich and ruin local communities... ;)
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Marijuana is a natural herb, not a drug...
Like the government supported anti-depressants that you always hear about on TV. You know, the ones that lead to organ failure, zombification, death, or a more intense depression than they started with which often times drives them to suicide.
And you know, ever since America invaded Afganastan, Heroin shipments to the U.S. Have only increased. So much for homeland security, which by the way seems more focussed on the citizens than on what is coming in.
It's all a bunch of B.S. Propaganda.
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As for celeb suicides, it's generally the hopelessness of the industry that drives them to it. They are slaves with no seeable way out. Trapped in a very strange world so far from home. Only psychotics like Lady Ga Ga, Madonna and the like are well adjusted to it, but those who have retained a sence of Little House on the Praire humanity either break down or get crushed...
Then there are those like Amy who got too caught up and did too much too fast.
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Oh ya, Franko. Didn't you say you smoke something like three packs a day?
Well I hate to break it to you, but it is not the THC in marijuana that leads to brain cell damage. Rather it comes from the suffocating effects of the carbonmonoxide which is produced from the fire itself.
Considering that a cigarette smoker consumes a LOT more smoke than your general marijuana smoker, I'd say you are a lot more at risk of brain cell damage amongst forms of nasty side effects that come only from cigarette smoke, tar, and the chemicals addedinto cigarettes to make them burn slower. I won't even get into menthols.
Thankfully, in defense of marijuana, there are alternative methods to take it that do not involve burning it and therefore remove carbonmonoxide from the equation. Unfortunately for nicotine based narcotic addicts, chewing tabacco with still result in cancer of the mouth.
So all in all, as a friend, I advise you research what you put into your body, and seriously consider training your mind and body to adapt to moderation.
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@ XDelsuion
Marijuana may be classed as a herb but in most societies it used as a recreational drug not something for cooking or garnishing meals... ;)
Celebs and their self inflicted drug induced suicides are hardly something to feel sorry for or have sympathy with, or putting it down to the industry that they work in, is sorry mate but that's nothing but BS. The pampered & luxury life they lead in said industry can hardly compare to a soldier sent overseas to fight and see the horrors of war in a foreign land, that's what you call being in a strange world so far from home... ;)
The things firemen, police, armed forces personnel, medical & healthcare workers and all others in similar dangerous & caring but beneficial professions to our society have to see and do, is far worse than anything any poncy & pampered celebrity or sportstar will ever be exposed to, so for me there is no sympathy for such people other than the sadness of what is usually a waste of a young life through self inflicted substance abuse... :(
I don't smoke packs of cigarettes but roll my own with tobacco, which doesn't contain quite the amount of chemicals that packaged cigarettes do, but still doesn't do my body or health any good and yes I know all about what goes into tobacco and all the nasty effects it has on the person using it... ;)
I defence of tobacco over marijuana, I would say tobacco has never led me to dabble in other even more dangerous and illicit drugs unlike marijuana whom of all the people I know who smoke it for a good 75% of them it has led to them stronger drugs and killed quite a number of them over the past 20 odd years in my life... :(
As for me and my smoking, well apart from the fact I genuinely enjoy smoking, I have no worries about dying from cancer or other health related problems as short of an accident, murder or catching some unexpected fatal illness, I already KNOW what is going to end my life and so do my doctors and there is sod all anyone in the medical profession can do to prevent it. I have even been told by my neurosurgeon (he would only say it off the record, because of professional ethics) not to bother to give up smoking if I enjoy it so much, as like I say it aint gonna kill me... :)
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@ XDelsuion
Marijuana may be classed as a herb but in most societies it used as a recreational drug not something for cooking or garnishing meals... ;)
Celebs and their self inflicted drug induced suicides are hardly something to feel sorry for or have sympathy with, or putting it down to the industry that they work in, is sorry mate but that's nothing but BS. The pampered & luxury life they lead in said industry can hardly compare to a soldier sent overseas to fight and see the horrors of war in a foreign land, that's what you call being in a strange world so far from home... ;)
The things firemen, police, armed forces personnel, medical & healthcare workers and all others in similar dangerous & caring but beneficial professions to our society have to see and do, is far worse than anything any poncy & pampered celebrity or sportstar will ever be exposed to, so for me there is no sympathy for such people other than the sadness of what is usually a waste of a young life through self inflicted substance abuse... :(
I don't smoke packs of cigarettes but roll my own with tobacco, which doesn't contain quite the amount of chemicals that packaged cigarettes do, but still doesn't do my body or health any good and yes I know all about what goes into tobacco and all the nasty effects it has on the person using it... ;)
I defence of tobacco over marijuana, I would say tobacco has never led me to dabble in other even more dangerous and illicit drugs unlike marijuana whom of all the people I know who smoke it for a good 75% of them it has led to them stronger drugs and killed quite a number of them over the past 20 odd years in my life... :(
As for me and my smoking, well apart from the fact I genuinely enjoy smoking, I have no worries about dying from cancer or other health related problems as short of an accident, murder or catching some unexpected fatal illness, I already KNOW what is going to end my life and so do my doctors and there is sod all anyone in the medical profession can do to prevent it. I have even been told by my neurosurgeon (he would only say it off the record, because of professional ethics) not to bother to give up smoking if I enjoy it so much, as like I say it aint gonna kill me... :)
Was this a joke or are you being serious? :confused:
PS if you die can i have your A1200T (kidding)?
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Is the same history, when a star dies, always there are people that gains money with it, in Spain 5-6 year ago died other male singer that always he had take drugs, and his record company launched alls his records, goods and bads, the record comanies need this bad "girls&boys" to sell more and more, in life and especially in death, after of selling the new third record from Amy, we'll have a compilation, a new record with songs hides, etc., well we have saw this before with a singer called Michael Jackson, and the record companies as sharks, to get more and more money, without worrying that its stars take drugs and alchohol or commit suicide.
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Was this a joke or are you being serious? :confused:
PS if you die can i have your A1200T (kidding)?
Serious... I already made a thread about it way back last year somewhere in the coffee house... :)
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A couple short examples...
I could really go into this subject deep, but alas I must head into work, so I'll let David Chappelle share with you his personal experiences a bit.
Also, this last video is from old school rapper Kool Keith.
He is well known to talk about the true world behind the curtain of fame. This song starts off with his usual silliness, but then by the middle takes a turn and exploits some Hollywood realities.
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PS if you die can i have your A1200T (kidding)?
Seeing as how you asked nicely, then yes... :)
You can pick it up at the Bus Stop (the 281 Bathgate to Edinburgh stops at the bottom of me street, just ask the driver, he'll know)... ;)
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Franko, you do realize that my ancestors made use of sacramental herb for different reasons than those that dominate modern "white culture" right?
The kind of people you are describing annoy the he'll outta me too! :)
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Oh and herbs were designed by the creator for more specific uses than cooking, flavouring, or tea parties. :)
In fact most off the shelf herbs have been heavily watered down so to speak.
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Franko, you do realize that my ancestors made use of sacramental herb for different reasons than those that dominate modern "white culture" right?
The kind of people you are describing annoy the he'll outta me too! :)
Yeah I do know quite a bit about native American Indian traditions and the use of hallucinogenic plants in ceremonies... :)
There's a big difference between that and taking drugs just to get a high for the sake of it... ;)
One of the main things that irks me in this country about drugs is, if your unfortunate to be rushed into hospital these days, the first question they ask you is "what kind of drugs do you take" (and they aint talking prescribed)... :(
It's probably the only thing in life I find highly offensive... :madashell:
It would seem that these days, it's expected that everyone takes or uses some kind of drugs and although I know plenty of people from all walks of life and professions that do take drugs (and many who have ruined their lives and careers and families not to mention even died) from this crazy habit, I've never had the urge to do so myself and only see the damage it has done to others and our local community... :(
There are many things wrong with this world from politics to society in general but it just makes me mad & sad to watch people ruining a perfectly good life all for the sake of taking something that gives them a few moments of pleasure and a lifetime of misery... :(
If there's one topic I will never change my view on it's drugs, I've heard all the petty excuses from friends, family & colleagues over the years and none of it washes with me... ;)
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RIP Amy W
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Yeah I do know quite a bit about native American Indian traditions and the use of hallucinogenic plants in ceremonies... :)
There's a big difference between that and taking drugs just to get a high for the sake of it... ;)
One of the main things that irks me in this country about drugs is, if your unfortunate to be rushed into hospital these days, the first question they ask you is "what kind of drugs do you take" (and they aint talking prescribed)... :(
It's probably the only thing in life I find highly offensive... :madashell:
It would seem that these days, it's expected that everyone takes or uses some kind of drugs and although I know plenty of people from all walks of life and professions that do take drugs (and many who have ruined their lives and careers and families not to mention even died) from this crazy habit, I've never had the urge to do so myself and only see the damage it has done to others and our local community... :(
There are many things wrong with this world from politics to society in general but it just makes me mad & sad to watch people ruining a perfectly good life all for the sake of taking something that gives them a few moments of pleasure and a lifetime of misery... :(
If there's one topic I will never change my view on it's drugs, I've heard all the petty excuses from friends, family & colleagues over the years and none of it washes with me... ;)
Don't worry, I'm not trying to get you to smoke a joint Franko. ;)
I'm just pointing out that there are different reasons for people to do things, and different results depending upon the personality taking them.
For instance, I have known this one guy since I was about 14. He has always been obsessive compulsive. VERY Obsessive Compulsive! When I graduated from High School and got my own Apartment, he used to wake me up, every freaking morning about one hour before he had to be to school. At first he began knocking on the door, but once I realized it was him knocking on the door every morning, I stopped answering.
So what does he do? He climbs off the edge of the balcony that the stairs led to (I lived up stairs), and would climb in through my window, which could have resulted in him falling and getting hurt, but he was determined.
After a few days of this I told him,"dude, I graduated, I am free from that institutional prison, I have earned the right to sleep in, if you are going to stop by, do it AFTER school!".
The next day I slept in. The day after that, he stopped in at lunch, the day after that...
...back to crawling in through the window ever day.
Now a days he will message me like five million times a day to see if I want to hang out. I will make it clear that I have no interest in hanging out as I have some projects I'd like to get involved in, or what ever, but he will continue to ask to no end regardless.
About 12 years ago when I let him move into the city with me and my friends, he ended up picking up a crack habit...
...how do you think that went?
Well now a days I don't think he is doing crack anymore considering he's in the Army Reserves and what not, but it's always hard to tell. Obsessive Compulseives act like crack heads anyhow.
Though there is also the alcohol which for an obsessive compulsive person, is just as bad as there are MANY MANY MANY negative side effects to alcohol, for which reason I don't really drink except maybe once a year if that.
Bottom line is it all comes down to the individual as to how they handle the content they are taking. On top of that it is their own friggin' business as to what they put into their body. We ARE NOT government property, or more accurately, because this is what it all boils down to in the big scheme of things (as not brought to you by Tell-Lie-Vision). We are not property of the World Bank, of FDIC, though they are convinced we are.
Anyhow, stereotyping annoys the hell out of me, and people getting all up in other people's lives because of what they want to do annoys the hell out of me. I mean I understand, I FULLY understand being affected by someone with a bad habit. I have plenty more tales about my obsessive compulsive buddy, and a lot more regarding to the local government pill poppers and alcoholics. I live in middle America atm after all.
But in the end, no one has the right to decide what a person does or does not take. That is a violation of freedom, of privacy, of personal sovereignty, and totally in line with the new world agenda which nearly everyone seems to be blindly lining up to become a citizen of and conformist to.
Besides, as I have pointed out, all the drugs and intoxicants that are legal, will MESS YOU UP! And some of those so called drugs, those herbs that they try to send the public into hysteria over...
...are harmless for the most part, if not even healthy to some degree. And it's really a shame that people form such a blind hatered towards pot smokers, because really I wonder if pot smokers would be so paranoid if everyone wasn't looking down on them as if what they are doing is so much worse than being on some sort of pill diet, drunk on alcohol, or what have you.
Anyhow, as for me, it's a nice thing to come home and relax to at the end of the night. I smoke about 1 Gram total a night if that, which is about the equivalent of one cigarette.
Sadly I still smoke Cigarettes too, about 2 packs every other day, and I can feel it. Sadly narcotics are not only mentally addicting, but physically, though I can say I smoke a LOT less than I used to. So I'm on my way.
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@ XDelusion
Ahh, I guessed as much, the excuses of a drug user... ;)
Sorry mate heard that one and many, many others all before, and stick by everything I say about EVERY person who chooses to use illegal drugs... :)
I even know staff (ie: nurses) in my local hospital (which I have to attend on a regular basis) who smoke joints and/ or pop pills. I refuse to allow them to treat me and always ask for someone else if they are assigned to me, as I simply don't know if they are not still intoxicated while on duty and could end up giving me the wrong medication or treatment... ;)
I would have no objections to drug users if they didn't have an effect on my life but unfortunately they do as they are the ones who keep the dealers where I live in business which turns the place into a dangerous place to live... :(
Like I say no drug users = no drug dealers... simple as... :)
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I don't use drugs. I'm not prescribed a thing, and I've no interest in acquiring those deadly government pills illegally.
Also pot does not cause hang overs. Alcohol does, so you might wanna ask your nurse or doc if she drank the night before. :)
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I don't use drugs. I'm not prescribed a thing, and I've no interest in acquiring those deadly government pills illegally.
Also pot does not cause hang overs. Alcohol does, so you might wanna ask your nurse or doc if she drank the night before. :)
You just said in your other post "Anyhow, as for me, it's a nice thing to come home and relax to at the end of the night. I smoke about 1 Gram total a night if that, which is about the equivalent of one cigarette." and now your denying you are a drug user... :rolleyes:
Denial is always a sign of someone hooked on drugs... ;)
If I have reason to believe a nurse or Doctor is "hungover" I DO ASK THEM and ask to be treated by someone else instead... :)
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Man made = drug, an herb is an herb. :)
Denial is always a sign of someone with perceptual dysfunction as advocated by the "opinion makers" behind the consolidated media.
That's where people always seem to get their strange ideas. ;)
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Man made = drug, an herb is an herb. :)
Denial is always a sign of someone with perceptual dysfunction as advocated by the "opinion makers" behind the consolidated media.
That's where people always seem to get their strange ideas. ;)
@ XDelusion
Cmon you can come up with something better than that... ;)
You are not using it as a herb, you are using it as a narcotic hence it's a drug... ;)
If I had a penny for every time I heard those old excuses I'd have a least a five pound note by now... :)
The only person who forms my opinions is me, if I were ever to believe all that the "media" say then I would be as well to just start being a junkie too and live in that fantasy world as well... :)
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Pot is not a narcotic. Ha ha ha!!!
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Pot is not a narcotic. Ha ha ha!!!
Yes it is. He he he!!!
Oh, and have a Ho Ho Ho just for good measure... :p
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You're on crack! :)
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You're on crack! :)
Damn... rumbled... :eek:
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:)
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For XDelusion! ;)
http://www.cannabisculture.com/backissues/cc11/christ.html
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Do as you will, let it harm no other.
And that shall be the whole of the law.
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For XDelusion! ;)
http://www.cannabisculture.com/backissues/cc11/christ.html
Thank you for this, I'm going to have to do some research on this, but what I've had time to read thus far totally conforms to a lot of what I knew before about the ancient (as opposed to modern) Hebrew practices, though most of what I knew was in relation to the psychedelic mushrooms, or Manna as some call them.
Very interesting!
Of course my friends in the middle east were always more than happy to inform me that in Egypt and surrounding areas, they smoke hemp, and not just flavored tobacco out of their Hookas. They insist I could go over to Cairo aNd make a nice living as a Hookah packer in the tourist restaurants.