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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: Heiroglyph on July 23, 2011, 03:09:14 AM

Title: Picasso authors contact?
Post by: Heiroglyph on July 23, 2011, 03:09:14 AM

I know this is an old, tired subject, but I'm making one last attempt here...

I want to make a Picasso driver for the Prometheus without pissing off either the Picasso authors (like Elbox did) or pissing off users for reverse engineering one.

Does anyone have contact info for Tobias Abt or Alexander Kneer?

I'm even willing to pay them if it's not an astronomical fee, they will be free drivers after all.

I'd like to make a case for allowing me to write legal, free, non-hacked drivers for a couple of cards that aren't 20 years old.  If it's not against the NDA, I'll even open source the thing.

Pretty much the only viable Prometheus card is the Voodoo3 and those aren't easy to come by like ATI or Nvidia.

Of all the things NOT to go open source once it was abandoned, I think this one is hurting us the most :(

Title: Re: Picasso authors contact?
Post by: Gulliver on July 23, 2011, 03:19:42 AM

Give me a couple of minutes and I will PM you their email contact.

Good luck :)

Title: Re: Picasso authors contact?
Post by: Hans_ on July 23, 2011, 03:21:10 AM

If the email addresses in the documentation don't work (which I expect that you have already tried), then I have no idea.

Hans

Title: Re: Picasso authors contact?
Post by: Gulliver on July 23, 2011, 03:26:59 AM

PM sent! :)

Title: Re: Picasso authors contact?
Post by: Heiroglyph on July 23, 2011, 03:49:44 AM

Quote from: Hans_;651290

If the email addresses in the documentation don't work (which I expect that you have already tried), then I have no idea.

Hans

I had tried those over a year ago unfortunately, back when I got the full OpenPCI SDK.

Looks like Gulliver's going to hook me up.

Fingers crossed...

Title: Re: Picasso authors contact?
Post by: Gulliver on July 23, 2011, 04:09:41 AM

Please keep us updated on your progress.

Title: Re: Picasso authors contact?
Post by: Heiroglyph on July 23, 2011, 04:30:33 AM

Email sent.

Lets all cross our fingers...

Title: Re: Picasso authors contact?
Post by: Heiroglyph on July 23, 2011, 04:38:39 AM

If this fails, what became of CyberGraphx?  Would they more easily convinced to let me have the DDK?

Did that roll into MorphOS?  I'm not even sure what the availability is like on MorphOS these days, hopefully there is a sane open DDK there at least.

RTG isn't trade-secret rocket science, it's a shame it has been so hard to let the users help themselves on AOS.

Title: Re: Picasso authors contact?
Post by: matthey on July 23, 2011, 04:48:23 AM

Ratte was working on an OpenPCI driver for Radeons. I would imagine it was a Picasso96 driver. Ratte is very active and should be easy to get in contact with. Here is an interesting thread...

http://www.amigaimpact.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=9816&forum=1

Picacco96 -> AmigaOS 4.x
CyberGFX -> MorphOS

The authors of neither have been amicable to classic users.

Title: Re: Picasso authors contact?
Post by: Cosmos Amiga on July 23, 2011, 08:20:54 AM

Toni Wilen released new versions of the Picasso96API.library (or rtg.library, I can't remember) for WinUAE few years ago, maybe (I say MAYBE) he have the source and some SDK or somethings usefull for you...

Title: Re: Picasso authors contact?
Post by: Heinz on July 23, 2011, 11:10:30 AM

Quote from: Heiroglyph;651285

I know this is an old, tired subject, but I'm making one last attempt here...

I want to make a Picasso driver for the Prometheus without pissing off either the Picasso authors (like Elbox did) or pissing off users for reverse engineering one.

Wouldnt it make sense to look at whatever AROS-68k is using ?