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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: Motormouth on July 10, 2011, 01:49:21 AM
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I have kinda of a good problem on my hands.
I have only one slot left open in my A2000, I want to put an Ethernet card in it, but Should I put the Ethernet card on the PC side or the Amiga Side?
I have my A2000 almost fully expanded out.
The A2000 has a Fusion Forty with 32megs ram
it has all four 16 bit ISA cards extension.
The computer currently has a the following Zorro boards:
Trumpcard Pro Scsi
A2058 with 2 meg
Picasso II+
and a Bridgeboard with 8 Megs and with a Rev to 486 75 Mhz 486BL3
On the ISA side I have the following:
the Bridgeboard
a Cardinal SoundVision 16 bit ISA with SVGA-Sound-SCSI, and Game port
An IDE-floppy-serial-parallel 16 bit ISA card
This config leaves one open slot, either a Zorro II or ISA card, I would like to have Ethernet available for both the Amiga side and the PC side
the Ethernet cards I have available are
Zorro II a2065
NE2000 ISA
or Etherlink III ISA
Any Ideas?
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Use the 2065. it can be shared on the pc side side. the A2386 can share almost everything. A diamond speedstar 64 isa video card( i think it was) will overclock the isa bus and speed everything also.finally ditch janus and look at SXSERV on aminet,its way better replacement.. .i think most old stuff was most compatible with a soundblaster.. been too long. this is all from memory when i was pushing a 386sx board to the limit long ago :)
Oh worst case, ditch the ide card and use the sound cards scsi,that would free up a slot for the NIC .It would also give the possibility of 100Mbit.Use a realtek compatible card if poss.
good luck
Mech
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Bloody hell. Talk about a dream A2000. Doomy would wank himself to death over that! :D
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Use the 2065. it can be shared on the pc side side. the A2386 can share almost everything. A diamond speedstar 64 isa video card( i think it was) will overclock the isa bus and speed everything also.finally ditch janus and look at SXSERV on aminet,its way better replacement.. .i think most old stuff was most compatible with a soundblaster.. been too long. this is all from memory when i was pushing a 386sx board to the limit long ago :)
Oh worst case, ditch the ide card and use the sound cards scsi,that would free up a slot for the NIC .It would also give the possibility of 100Mbit.Use a realtek compatible card if poss.
good luck
Mech
Was about to offer some advice, but this guy clearly knows his stuff.
Therefore all that remains is for me to call you a jammy bastard for having such a premium setup.
Good day Sir.
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Hmmm, Most of the sound cards from that day had proprietary IDE/SCSI connections on them that only allowed them to connect a CD-ROM so I don't know if using that for the primary PC-HD would work as a solution.
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A couple of points....
I don't think you can run an Amiga Ethernet card from the Pc side, but you can do it the other way round. Would be interesting if I'm wrong though!
I do know however, that you cannot use a sound card for a hard disk. Not only is the bus not standard IDE (they'd not standardised ATAPI yet) but the BIOS wouldn't understand it anyway.
Nice setup though - you found a SL3 chip!
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A diamond speedstar 64 isa video card( i think it was) will overclock the isa bus and speed everything also.
Err - you got any further info on that? I don't think it's possible to overclock ISA from a card's perspective.
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Err - you got any further info on that? I don't think it's possible to overclock ISA from a card's perspective.
Yes the BBGuide mentions that some boards can take over theISA bus and clock it faster, the Speedstar for instance.
As for the NIC, etherbridge works good except that i have found that bridgboards sometime don't boot at all in supercharged amiga computers because they do not get enough power from weak psu. This happens in my A4000. After some reboots it works again. Can be annoying if you want to access the NIC anytime.
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Are you referring to:
Some video cards also set their own bus speed on the system, which would yield accellerated displays.
? Display accelleration has nothing to do with bus overclocking, so I'd venture it's a myth.
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With a 286 card you can get 300-400 KB/s transfers using etherbridge.device
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Use the 2065. it can be shared on the pc side side. the A2386 can share almost everything. A diamond speedstar 64 isa video card( i think it was) will overclock the isa bus and speed everything also.finally ditch janus and look at SXSERV on aminet,its way better replacement.. .i think most old stuff was most compatible with a soundblaster.. been too long. this is all from memory when i was pushing a 386sx board to the limit long ago :)
Oh worst case, ditch the ide card and use the sound cards scsi,that would free up a slot for the NIC .It would also give the possibility of 100Mbit.Use a realtek compatible card if poss.
good luck
Mech
Thanks for all the responds.
@Mech,
How would you get the Bridgeboard to use the a2065. This would be the my preferred route
I guess I have seen programs out there to use a ISA ethernet on with AmigaOS, do they work well, haven't attempted to use them?
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Was about to offer some advice, but this guy clearly knows his stuff.
Therefore all that remains is for me to call you a jammy bastard for having such a premium setup.
Good day Sir.
*sigh*
Well I really haven't been able to get Ethernet working yet, or I would not have posted.
It is a nice setup but compared you guys with AGA, Uber Towers, 060, PowerPC, PCI slots, and OS 4.1, it is not really that up to date.
This computer has only been together for about a month. I have had several frustrating configuration issues particularly getting the Trumpcard SCSI working with the Fusion Forty, and getting the OPL3 sound on the Cardinal soundvision to work properly. Oh and the IRQs on the PC Side; I remember why I bought an Amiga in the first place.
The last place I am stuck on is on the ethernet, I have never setup ethernet on a dos system this old or attempted to get A2065 ethernet working with the PC or visa versa....
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Two links that might be useful especially for the A2386sx Bridgeboard users out there
One:
http://homepage3.nifty.com/sandy55/Interposer/386_upgrade.html
it explains all the 386sx upgrades that are out there......
They occasionally come up on ebay.
Also the ISA bus overclocking, using the approprate video board, that many of you had referred to, and general overclock can be found on:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~davem2/overclock/a2386.html
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I can verify that the Evergreen model 300 rev to 486 at 75mhz and the Cyrix 486 at 50mhz both work great with the A2386.
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With a 286 card you can get 300-400 KB/s transfers using etherbridge.device
Now see I'd go this route because it is cheaper and that lets you free up the Zorro slot for any half length card you may want to get like a USB thingy ma bobber.
Really, since you are dealing with A2000 architecture can you'r miggy really take advantage of more bandwidth?
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Now see I'd go this route because it is cheaper and that lets you free up the Zorro slot for any half length card you may want to get like a USB thingy ma bobber.
Really, since you are dealing with A2000 architecture can you'r miggy really take advantage of more bandwidth?
@Crumb and J-Golden
I see your point about half length Card.
I will attempt both etherbridge and EmuNet.
It looks like etherbridge is dos only
Does anyone know if EmuNet works with Windows 3.11 or 95?
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Hmmm, Most of the sound cards from that day had proprietary IDE/SCSI connections on them that only allowed them to connect a CD-ROM so I don't know if using that for the primary PC-HD would work as a solution.
The scsi controller on the Cardinal SoundVision was put there for Cdrom usage.
However, tt does appear to be bios-shadowing and bus mastering. I will attempt to mount and use a hard drive with it......
i will post results....
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A couple of points....
I don't think you can run an Amiga Ethernet card from the Pc side, but you can do it the other way round. Would be interesting if I'm wrong though!
I do know however, that you cannot use a sound card for a hard disk. Not only is the bus not standard IDE (they'd not standardised ATAPI yet) but the BIOS wouldn't understand it anyway.
Nice setup though - you found a SL3 chip!
The IDE controller is in a kouwell 556N IDE-Floppy-Serial-parallel and works well with the BB. although, I had one hard time getting all the IRQs and addresses working.
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@Motormouth
I don't know if PC-side soft works on Win3.1, I only used it to get cheap ethernet on big box miggies :-) etherbridge.device is designed for cbm bridgeboards so I'm not 100% sure it will work with your 486 card but if it's seen from the Amiga side and it's made by cbm and uses Janus software it may be a good idea to try it out.
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Bloody hell. Talk about a dream A2000. Doomy would wank himself to death over that! :D
It must have been the machine he saw when he sang the song. "Only Amiga, Hoo Hooooo!."
But that is one mean machine. 486 75 Bridgeboard. I thought they stopped at 386.
Do you run "Gulp" Windows 95 on it ?
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Do you run "Gulp" Windows 95 on it ?
Why stop there? We ran Windows 98 on a similarly spec'd machine. Depending upon memory, of course. I don't know how much RAM those boards hold.
Sometimes I do long for the days when Windows ran well on a DX2-66.
But more back on topic, I had a 386 bridge board years ago. I sold it because I was young and dumb and some guy told me he had a 486 board to sell me. I never got it after paying him, and what's really damn funny is my PayPal refund request what rejected a few months ago... after almost 10 friggen years!
Now all I have left is two 2088s and no real idea what to do with them.
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It must have been the machine he saw when he sang the song. "Only Amiga, Hoo Hooooo!."
But that is one mean machine. 486 75 Bridgeboard. I thought they stopped at 386.
Do you run "Gulp" Windows 95 on it ?
Actually it is a A2386sx which is has a 386sx processor and 387 co-processor. There is a rev-to-486 plugs on top of the 386sx which which has a 486BL3 which is triple clocked from 25 to 75 mhz.
The A2386sx with the 486 upgrade can run windows 95, but albeit it is slow because of the bridgeboard's 16bit bus. (not 32 bit like 386DX or 486DX)
Vortex did however make a Goldengate 486slc2 @ 50 mhz. I would love to have one the vortex boards
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Vortex did however make a Goldengate 486slc2 @ 50 mhz. I would love to have one the vortex boards
Rare as hen teeth?
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I have the Vortex 486-50. Finicky to set up and get working but it is a nice board.
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Vortex did however make a Goldengate 486slc2 @ 50 mhz. I would love to have one the vortex boards
The 486SLC2 of the GoldenGate is pretty much the same as yours, except it is double clocked only to 50 MHz and have less L1 cache (1KB for Cyrix/TI cpu versus 8 KB on your IBM chip). The A2386 board has nothing to envy to the GoldenGate, except it has less maximum ram (8 MB versus 16 MB) and is much harder to set up.
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I have kinda of a good problem on my hands.
I have only one slot left open in my A2000, I want to put an Ethernet card in it, but Should I put the Ethernet card on the PC side or the Amiga Side?
I have my A2000 almost fully expanded out.
The A2000 has a Fusion Forty with 32megs ram
it has all four 16 bit ISA cards extension.
The computer currently has a the following Zorro boards:
Trumpcard Pro Scsi
A2058 with 2 meg
Picasso II+
and a Bridgeboard with 8 Megs and with a Rev to 486 75 Mhz 486BL3
On the ISA side I have the following:
the Bridgeboard
a Cardinal SoundVision 16 bit ISA with SVGA-Sound-SCSI, and Game port
An IDE-floppy-serial-parallel 16 bit ISA card
This config leaves one open slot, either a Zorro II or ISA card, I would like to have Ethernet available for both the Amiga side and the PC side
the Ethernet cards I have available are
Zorro II a2065
NE2000 ISA
or Etherlink III ISA
Any Ideas?
pc side ethernet is always easiest,and u can do 100Mbit speed.
The os3x hdtools will work on the trumpcard,its rdb compliant. just be sure to change the device in hdtools in the icon info to the trumpcard one(IVSscsi.device depending on the card) NOTE the case it may be important.
The 2000 will easily handle a load of isa cards and won't break a sweat doing it.overclocked isa will about the same speed as zorro3 bus on the 3000/4000.
You are right, IRQ's are a pita.. thank god for Autoconfig on the amiga ;)
there were combo board thats had ide,floppy,sound all in 1 card but they are hard to find.
all of the above i have personally done in the past.. the cdrom share tool is amicdex22.lha off aminet.
use SXSERV16.lha its so so much better and a reliable janus replacement.
look into amems152.lha this would allow you to use amiga ram on the bridgeboard side! (its a ems driver but sadly needs a key.. anyone know the author or have a key????) if you run a good accelerator with 128MB or so,adding some of that to the pc side does wonders.
you can share the miamidx connection from the amiga side
check out atutilities.lha on aminet,some goodies in that too!
its also possible to read/write to the pc side hd from the amiga side, i dont recall the utility name,but it may be in the above i mentioned.
pcexecute.lha allows you to start programs on the pc side from the amiga.
it was incredible what you could do with these old boards and back in the day it gave access to quite alot of additional software,as well.They are slow as dirt today but its a fun? thing every amigan should try.
I actually had windows 98 running on this super clocked setup as a form of torture for myself. don't believe any faq's that say w98/se will not run on it,because it will. With ems memory,bus overclocking and the diamond speedstar it was almost tolerable and spec'd right with/above some 486 machines on bus test results.
Another option was to solder a 486slc2 cpu in place of the 386 cpu.
enjoy! they are pin for pin compatible.
Mech
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@crumb
I was able to get etherbridge.device working with dos.
I cannot get it working with win95, will update......
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pc side ethernet is always easiest,and u can do 100Mbit speed.
The os3x hdtools will work on the trumpcard,its rdb compliant. just be sure to change the device in hdtools in the icon info to the trumpcard one(IVSscsi.device depending on the card) NOTE the case it may be important.
The 2000 will easily handle a load of isa cards and won't break a sweat doing it.overclocked isa will about the same speed as zorro3 bus on the 3000/4000.
You are right, IRQ's are a pita.. thank god for Autoconfig on the amiga ;)
there were combo board thats had ide,floppy,sound all in 1 card but they are hard to find.
all of the above i have personally done in the past.. the cdrom share tool is amicdex22.lha off aminet.
use SXSERV16.lha its so so much better and a reliable janus replacement.
look into amems152.lha this would allow you to use amiga ram on the bridgeboard side! (its a ems driver but sadly needs a key.. anyone know the author or have a key????) if you run a good accelerator with 128MB or so,adding some of that to the pc side does wonders.
you can share the miamidx connection from the amiga side
check out atutilities.lha on aminet,some goodies in that too!
its also possible to read/write to the pc side hd from the amiga side, i dont recall the utility name,but it may be in the above i mentioned.
pcexecute.lha allows you to start programs on the pc side from the amiga.
it was incredible what you could do with these old boards and back in the day it gave access to quite alot of additional software,as well.They are slow as dirt today but its a fun? thing every amigan should try.
I actually had windows 98 running on this super clocked setup as a form of torture for myself. don't believe any faq's that say w98/se will not run on it,because it will. With ems memory,bus overclocking and the diamond speedstar it was almost tolerable and spec'd right with/above some 486 machines on bus test results.
Another option was to solder a 486slc2 cpu in place of the 386 cpu.
enjoy! they are pin for pin compatible.
Mech
@Mechy
Thanks!!
"you can share the miamidx connection from the amiga side
check out atutilities.lha on aminet,some goodies in that too!"
This is exactly what I am looking for. I currently have amitcp/genesis on the amiga side, but I will attempt to try miamidx and atutilities
This will sound crazy, but the problem I had with the Trumpcard Pro and the Fusion Forty was the slot I was using, When I put the A2058 (again with 2megs) in the left most zorroII and the Trumpcard in the second to the left. the scsi gets weird and autoboots sometimes. If I flip them, that is the trumpcard in the left. It works significantly better.
The Fusion Forty can often be very fussy....
I tried out sxserv16, it works well, much better than Janus 2.1, I had to write down the keyboard short cuts....
I am having problems getting amicdex working with my config, I suspect this may be the fusion forty interaction with the trumpcard, I am going to try another scsi. I have a spare dataflyer (same scsi chip as the trumpcard, both are PIO) or borrow a friends GVP scsi (a true dma card). I have a scsi cdrom connected to the PC side cardinal scsi controller, However I would like to remove this, so I can close my case.
I have not tried amems152.lha as my Fusion Forty has 32 meg, I might spare 8 meg for the BB. will update that progress.
I tried out pcexecute. Very cool....
@mechy and crumb thanks for the ideas!
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@Jeff and Xanxi
Does the Vortex allow you to use all the bridgeboard tools like amicdex that mechy was talking about?
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@Motormouth
Sorry I'm not sure about that. I can say that it would only work in the TOP slot of my A4000D, not at all in the other 3 slots, and not at all in my A4000T. I didn't test it with the A3000D or A3000T, once I got it running reliably I left it alone!
I do like the Janus software better than the Vortex. Some company also too the A2386SX, and removed the 386 chip and soldered a 486 in place. I think they sold a few like that but I have never seen one. Since the clip on upgrades work so well I never had the nerve to try this.
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I don't know about amidcdx and the Vortex boards, but etherbridge will only work with Commodore boards as far as i know.
About ATUtilities from aminet: this package seems to be interesting but it is only in german (i have only studied english, spanish, latin and ancient greek as foreign languages at school - german would have been useful for my amiga stuff). It claims that it is a replacement software for the bridgeboards, but there is no executable amongst this bunch of files. Any idea how to use this?
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Some company also too the A2386SX, and removed the 386 chip and soldered a 486 in place. I think they sold a few like that but I have never seen one. Since the clip on upgrades work so well I never had the nerve to try this.
I have that board. It's by Elite Micro Systems and it has a 486Slc at 33MHz.
I paid good money for it in 1995 and it never worked, try as I might, alas.
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I have that board. It's by Elite Micro Systems and it has a 486Slc at 33MHz.[/QUOTE]
AWESOME!!!:elvis:
I paid good money for it in 1995 and it never worked, try as I might, alas.
Bogus!!!! :angry:
Was it faulty Hardware or were you having a software compatibility issue? Maybe try the newer stuff on Aminet and cross fingers?
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Bogus isn't the word.
£350 that card cost me in 1995 - I was a student. I waited impatiently for 6 weeks for it to arrive from the States. When it finally came, I plugged it in... ran the install disk.. rebooted... "Cannot open janus.library".
That's all I ever got.
Eventually I found that it had a bad bit of dual-ported RAM, but this was after several other attempts at fixing things. I think the 74LS74 was bad too - it wasn't autoconfiguring.
My brother and I had a go at fixing the RAM by soldering in one of the other RAM chips. We didn't know in those days that the main RAM was static column, not Page Mode (we didn't know there were two types of Zip RAM!).
About 4 years ago, I finally twigged that it had had the wrong RAM in it all these years after we tried to fix it. Since that attempt I'd got hold of another A2386SX and had been switching chips to track down bad ones. One of the chips - a 74ACTQ244 - died on the operating table (lost a leg). Typically enough, this is an incredibly hard to find chip. Hence the chip socket on the board that's not filled (my '244 is in my working 2386SX).
Since those days I've managed to track down four new 41464AZ08 Zip RAM chips (that was no easy task, I can tell you).
These boards are very difficult to desolder on without lifting tracks - that's why there's lot of wires added on. Most of the wires in the photos are to make sure of bad contacts caused by IC sockets and chips where lifting the chip took the track with it.
Unfortunately no-one ever came up with a schematic... would have been more than useful.
Every now and again I take another crack at this board to try and sort it. It's more of a principle now.... even though my A2386SX is faster (it has a 486SLC2/50 on) and I have a 486SLC GoldenGate, I still want this board to work.
I really need another A2386SX for parts, so I can get a good 74ACTQ244. Incidentally, I do actually have some of those chips - but they're SMT. I bought them just in case they come in handy and I find some way of reliably soldering one into a DIP package!
My next task I feel is to remove all the IC sockets, and do a high resolution scan of both sides of the board. Then I can identify any dodgy-looking contacts and check them with the multimeter. Once that's done I can solder in known good chips to get it as close to original as possible, and try again - I have rather more experience of these things now (just completely re-capacitored my A2000 a few days ago, for example)!
By the way, don't suppose anyone has any 74ACTQ244 chips handy, do they...? :)
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@Spirantho
Aren't the zips that A2386sx the same 1Mx4 chips that the A3000 uses?
Am I seeing things, Are your zips not socketed?
Maybe mine is odd, but my bridgeboard has sockets for all the zips.
I don't know if this works, I was thinking about attempting to making one.
The following guide on aminet:
http://aminet.net/package/docs/hard/A2386_16MB
Says there is a way to make a zip to simms adapter for the A2386sx, similar to the zip to simm adapter for the A3000.
And even better is supposedly can handle 16 MB
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@spirantho:
The chip in the bottom right corner looks severely lifted on one side. Is there a problem with it?
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By the way, don't suppose anyone has any 74ACTQ244 chips handy, do they...? :)
Any idea what the 'Q' stands for? 'AC' is advanced CMOS ('F' speed) and 'T' makes it TTL compatible. Ever tried a simple 'F'?
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@Zac67
"Q" stands for "Quiet". Not tried a simple F, might work - if unreliably. Maybe I'll try sticking an F into my working 386.
@J-Golden
Most of the chips have been taken out and re-inserted. It's not just a seating issue. If a chip's coming out I just didn't put it fully back in again.
@Motormouth
Look more closely at the bridgeboard. :) Not all the ZIPs are socketed (wish they were)!
Going to try and source a 74F244 now... OK. Got 10 of them, will try it tomorrow in my 386.
Would be fabulous if I can get this baby running after all this time, but I'm not going to hold my breath. If anyone can help though that'd be fantastic, but I don't think there's much anyone can do over the net (unless someone has the schematics PLEASE :) )
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Would be fabulous if I can get this baby running after all this time, but I'm not going to hold my breath. If anyone can help though that'd be fantastic, but I don't think there's much anyone can do over the net (unless someone has the schematics PLEASE :) )
Good Luck man! We are all rooting for ya!:banana::banana::banana:
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Incidentally, how many of these boards have ever been seen? I never came across another.... I guess they're pretty rare!
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A lot of Commodore bridgeboards could be find cheap on ebay about 5 years ago. I guess they have just ended up in some cellars for now as no one was interested in them until lately.
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I don't remember seeing other 486 ones though....?
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Incidentally, how many of these boards have ever been seen? I never came across another.... I guess they're pretty rare!
Man, If Ihad known I could use cheap PC ISA cards with them I'd have grabbed one up in a second! It's like the poor man's Mediator!:lol:
And trust men, I'm a POOR MAN!!!!
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Good Luck man! We are all rooting for ya!:banana::banana::banana:
@Spirantho
+1
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Thanks for the encouragement. :)
Today I removed all the IC sockets, and checked all the ICs that are socketed to make sure they're good.
I found that the 74LS74 was dubious so that's gone. I also noticed several tracks not reaching the pins of the IC sockets.
I've now taken hi-res photos of the board where the sockets are, and replaced the chips. I plugged the board in and tested the memory and everything came up as zeroes, so RAM access is still dead, but the board is autoconfiguring correctly at address $200000, and is recognised ok as an A2386SX.
I've mapped out the connections from five of the ICs now, and verified them. Next step is to check the connections of the other seven or so from the photographs. Could be a while!
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A while indeed! But if you can finally get it working after all this time... well, we MAY have to throw you a Youtube party of something:lol:
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"particularly getting the Trumpcard SCSI working with the Fusion Forty,"
I seem to recall having a similar issue with a Trumpcard SCSI in my A2000 when I added an 030 board.
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I too plan on adding a ethernet to my A2000. What would be recommended if I stick to Zorro II? or would an old ISA NIC work in an A2000 without a bridgeboard? Will Workbench be able to sonfigure it
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I too plan on adding a ethernet to my A2000. What would be recommended if I stick to Zorro II? or would an old ISA NIC work in an A2000 without a bridgeboard? Will Workbench be able to sonfigure it
The ISA slots are inactive on an A2000. You won't be able to use an ISA network card from the Amiga unless there is something bridging between the Zorro II and ISA slots.
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"something" being a Goldengate II or a Commodore bridgeboard. I think a 2286 may work, but not sure.
Incidentally, for those who are interested.... About an hour ago I got RAM access on my 486 BB! Every time since, though, it's gone back to crashing before initialising when running Binddrivers (i.e. no memory access). GARGH.
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@Amigapixel
What they are saying is that the only way to use the ISA slots in a big box Amiga for anything other then power, you need exta hardware called Bridge boards.
When Commodore layed out the slots, they did not connect the ISA slots to the Amiga data-wise. Never understood this, but that is the way it is. That is why this thread is mainly talking about Bridgeboards and their uses for networking.
These bridge boards not only allow you to access Early PC software, but they also connect the ISA slots to the Amiga, bridging between them and the Amiga.
If you install a bridge baord, you will have access to ISA video cards, network cards and several other cheap items.
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Incidentally, for those who are interested.... About an hour ago I got RAM access on my 486 BB! Every time since, though, it's gone back to crashing before initialising when running Binddrivers (i.e. no memory access). GARGH.
That great! I know it's not fully functional yet, but your are getting closer and closer. KEEP IT UP!!!:)
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What they are saying is that the only way to use the ISA slots in a big box Amiga for anything other then power, you need exta hardware called Bridge boards.
There was a cheap card that had no pc emulation on that allowed isa boards to be used from amigaos. It came with drivers for the usual suspects. From memory the hardware is pretty trivial, it's basically a handful of chips so it can be autoconfig'd and some buffers so the bus can be tristated.
It should be very easy for someone to make them.
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That great! I know it's not fully functional yet, but your are getting closer and closer. KEEP IT UP!!!:)
Yes, I'm encouraged by the fact that I got some memory access, even if it was only 4 bits that were correct!
But I can't get it to happen again! *sob*.
At least now it doesn't hang solid, it just guru's instead (7fffffff.48454C50 - that's ASCII for HELP by the way!). It even occasionally opens janus.library successfully... though of course nothing happens because the RAM isn't talking for some crazy reason.
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There was a cheap card that had no pc emulation on that allowed isa boards to be used from amigaos. It came with drivers for the usual suspects. From memory the hardware is pretty trivial, it's basically a handful of chips so it can be autoconfig'd and some buffers so the bus can be tristated.
It should be very easy for someone to make them.
Yes, that's the GoldenGate II. The GoldenGate I was an emulator board, the GG-II just a bridge to the ISA slots. You could use NE2000 cards and things, but AFAIK there was never an RTG graphics driver made.
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Yes, that's the GoldenGate II. The GoldenGate I was an emulator board, the GG-II just a bridge to the ISA slots. You could use NE2000 cards and things, but AFAIK there was never an RTG graphics driver made.
Ah, I'd forgotten what it was called and thought the GGII was just another version of GG.
http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showhardware.cgi?HARDID=344
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Actually there is a GG2 for sale on Amibay... If it's only networking though and not for the thrill of getting a bridgeboard up and running I'd go for a Deneb or zorro Ethernet!
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I too plan on adding a ethernet to my A2000. What would be recommended if I stick to Zorro II? or would an old ISA NIC work in an A2000 without a bridgeboard? Will Workbench be able to sonfigure it
With the help of all the people in this thread, I was able to get both ISA NIC to work and the Zorro II, to work with the Amiga side. You could possibly use a A2088 as the bridge and an old ISA NIC, both they are typically cheap with etherbridge.device the only issue I had was finding the ISA NIC dos drivers.
Edit *only problem with this is the a2088 can only use 8bit ISA NIC*
I still have not gotten the Zorro II to work with the PC side......though I think it is user configuration error, (the ATUtilities is in German, my German is a bit rusty, has been 20 years since I used it regularly)
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I am having problems getting amicdex working with my config, I suspect this may be the fusion forty interaction with the trumpcard, I am going to try another scsi. I have a spare dataflyer (same scsi chip as the trumpcard, both are PIO) or borrow a friends GVP scsi (a true dma card). I have a scsi cdrom connected to the PC side cardinal scsi controller, However I would like to remove this, so I can close my case.
Update:
I was able to get amicdex to work with the GVP scsi card/Fusion Forty. before I condemn the trumpcard it could be the Fusion Forty/trumpcard PIO that could be the issue.
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Update:
I was able to get amicdex to work with the GVP scsi card/Fusion Forty. before I condemn the trumpcard it could be the Fusion Forty/trumpcard PIO that could be the issue.
Could very well be it, but how will you resolve it if it is? It's whole lot cheaper to get a SCSI card than an Accelerator these days. I'd talk to your friend and see if he would be willing to swap for the GVP SCSI card...