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Title: Freescale unveils next-generation QorIQ platform
Post by: SysAdmin on June 21, 2011, 12:55:55 PM
News from gregthecanuck via amigaworld.net

Link: Freescale Drives Embedded Multicore Innovation with New QorIQ Advanced Multiprocessing Series (http://media.freescale.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=196520&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1576370)



In summary:

- announces new E6500 64bit core
- multithreaded (2 threads per core)
- up to 2.5Ghz clock rate
- 28nm process
- Altivec
- first chip is 12 core/24thread beast, T4240
- availability "early 2012" - typical Freescale

"Looks like a good next-generation candidate for the X1000 series. By the time these are mature the timing should be about right" (opinion of amigaworld.net poster, not part of the Freescale news release).

Quoting directly from press release:

The AMP series consists of three levels of products within a scalable portfolio, initially spanning from ultra-high-performance processors featuring 24 virtual cores down to single-core products.

Control plane processors (service provider routers, storage networks)
Up to 6 cores running at up to 2.5 GHz
Greater than 6 MB L2 cache

High-end data plane processors (routers, switches, access gateways, mil/aero applications)
Up to 24 virtual cores running at up to 2.0 GHz
50 Gbps IP forwarding capability
Advanced application acceleration

Low-end data plane processors (media gateways, network attached storage, integrated services router)
Up to 8 virtual cores running up to 1.6 GHz
Advanced application acceleration
Less than 10W power

Freescale's first product in the QorIQ AMP series, the T4240 device, integrates a host of hardware accelerators with 12 dual-threaded e6500 cores, providing 24 threads to address high-end data plane processing applications. Dual-threaded efficiency, improved DMIPs per thread and higher frequency deliver 4x performance gain and more than 2x power efficiency gain over the previous-generation QorIQ P4080 device. Advanced capabilities allow for intelligent sharing and duplication of resources between threads and a larger amount of on-die cache per core. Application examples for the T4240 device include metro carrier edge routers, access gateways and aerospace/defense products. Freescale will provide more details regarding the T4240 product later this year. The device is planned for initial availability in early 2012.
Title: Re: Freescale unveils next-generation QorIQ platform
Post by: Piru on June 21, 2011, 01:20:37 PM
I would appreciate it if opinion and speculation would not be posted as news.
Title: Re: Freescale unveils next-generation QorIQ platform
Post by: klx300r on June 21, 2011, 02:52:50 PM
Interesting news indeed for future PPC machines:idea:
Title: Re: Freescale unveils next-generation QorIQ platform
Post by: SysAdmin on June 21, 2011, 05:16:48 PM
Quote from: Piru;646509
I would appreciate it if opinion and speculation would not be posted as news.


Please explain, this information comes direct from Freescale Semiconductor's News Release.

http://media.freescale.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=196520&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1576370

If something is not accurate on the story we got from amigaworld.net we can updated it to be accurate if you point out the incorrect information.
Title: Re: Freescale unveils next-generation QorIQ platform
Post by: Argo on June 21, 2011, 05:38:47 PM
He's bitching about this,
Quote
Looks like a good next-generation candidate for the X1000 series. By the time these are mature the timing should be about right.


The fact that how ever nice it is, this processor is not lined up to be in any future Amiga product nor mentioned by developers as a possibility. It is just a new product by the vendor of the processor in the X1000.
Title: Re: Freescale unveils next-generation QorIQ platform
Post by: klx300r on June 21, 2011, 07:55:05 PM
Quote from: Argo;646530
He's bitching about this,

The fact that how ever nice it is, this processor is not lined up to be in any future Amiga product nor mentioned by developers as a possibility. It is just a new product by the vendor of the processor in the X1000.

what's so surprising when Trevor from A-Eon stated that Freescale did have this in the card back when the nay sayers were spouting about PPC being dead etc. ..this is just an official press-release stating such
Title: Re: Freescale unveils next-generation QorIQ platform
Post by: minator on June 21, 2011, 08:25:15 PM
Quote from: Piru;646509
I would appreciate it if opinion and speculation would not be posted as news.


Why?  News is generally presented as some facts intermixed with opinion and speculation.  I can't think of a single news organisation which does otherwise.  TV, newspaper, internet, it's all that way.


In any case, saying a new chip is ideal for a next gen machine is not exactly wild speculation.
Title: Re: Freescale unveils next-generation QorIQ platform
Post by: Fats on June 21, 2011, 10:41:15 PM
Quote from: minator;646545
Why?  News is generally presented as some facts intermixed with opinion and speculation.  I can't think of a single news organisation which does otherwise.  TV, newspaper, internet, it's all that way.


In any case, saying a new chip is ideal for a next gen machine is not exactly wild speculation.


Common guys. You now by now that it's Piru's task to make a negative comment when a subject touches OS4 or X1000. Preferably as the first reply.
:D

greets.
Staf.
Title: Re: Freescale unveils next-generation QorIQ platform
Post by: klx300r on June 22, 2011, 01:18:57 AM
Quote from: Fats;646560
Common guys. You now by now that it's Piru's task to make a negative comment when a subject touches OS4 or X1000. Preferably as the first reply.
:D

greets.
Staf.

actually come to think about it you're 100% right !..why we'd be worried about his health if that wasn't the case:roflmao:
Title: Re: Freescale unveils next-generation QorIQ platform
Post by: gregthecanuck on June 22, 2011, 03:36:04 AM
@Transition

Thanks for reposting the news item here. I haven't had time.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Freescale unveils next-generation QorIQ platform
Post by: Argo on June 22, 2011, 05:52:13 AM
Quote from: Fats;646560
Common guys. You now by now that it's Piru's task to make a negative comment when a subject touches OS4 or X1000. Preferably as the first reply.
:D

greets.
Staf.


So, you're saying he's a Troll...
Title: Re: Freescale unveils next-generation QorIQ platform
Post by: pampers on June 22, 2011, 07:25:48 AM
Quote from: Fats;646560
Common guys. You now by now that it's Piru's task to make a negative comment when a subject touches OS4 or X1000. Preferably as the first reply.
:D

greets.
Staf.

How come this news is related to OS4 or X1000?
Title: Re: Freescale unveils next-generation QorIQ platform
Post by: billyfish on June 22, 2011, 10:36:39 AM
Quote from: Argo;646602
So, you're saying he's a Troll...


I think that's stretching it a bit. Transition voiced a quick opinion within a much larger news item and Piru has taken issue with it. I personally can't see a problem with it but there you go.
Title: Re: Freescale unveils next-generation QorIQ platform
Post by: itix on June 22, 2011, 11:13:10 AM
It is too early speculate A1X2K processor when the original A1X1K is again postponed to early 2012.
Title: Re: Freescale unveils next-generation QorIQ platform
Post by: billyfish on June 22, 2011, 11:25:58 AM
Quote from: itix;646638
It is too early speculate A1X2K processor when the original A1X1K is again postponed to early 2012.


Ack, I missed that news! Is that official?
Title: Re: Freescale unveils next-generation QorIQ platform
Post by: itix on June 22, 2011, 01:06:47 PM
Quote from: billyfish;646642
Ack, I missed that news! Is that official?


It is not official. But they have missed Q2 and summer vacation season in Europe is beginning now. If they can start beta testing with beta testers in August/September they could make it to early 2012. I dont see how they could get it out faster than that.
Title: Re: Freescale unveils next-generation QorIQ platform
Post by: sgrddy on June 22, 2011, 02:23:56 PM
Would this new Freescale chip make a capable desktop processor?  Does anyone with expertise in this area know?
Title: Re: Freescale unveils next-generation QorIQ platform
Post by: Fats on June 22, 2011, 08:24:30 PM
Quote from: Argo;646602
So, you're saying he's a Troll...


Not really, but I do find his comments on OS4 and X1000, being a MOS core developer, inappropriate.
A troll would be somebody who posts the same thing again as post #5, #9, ...

greets,
Staf.
Title: Re: Freescale unveils next-generation QorIQ platform
Post by: itix on June 22, 2011, 09:05:44 PM
Quote from: Fats;646694
Not really, but I do find his comments on OS4 and X1000, being a MOS core developer, inappropriate.
A troll would be somebody who posts the same thing again as post #5, #9, ...

greets,
Staf.


Do you ever see anything good in Amiga land? :-)
Title: Re: Freescale unveils next-generation QorIQ platform
Post by: Fats on June 22, 2011, 10:22:24 PM
Quote from: itix;646698
Do you ever see anything good in Amiga land? :-)


It seems my tongue-in-cheek comment is getting quite serious.
But yes, I do see good things happening in amiga land, in all camps MOS, AROS, OS4, classic OS, FPGA,... Most of the time it's not done by the people who make the most noise on the forums though.

greets,
Staf.
Title: Re: Freescale unveils next-generation QorIQ platform
Post by: klx300r on June 22, 2011, 10:52:34 PM
Quote from: Fats;646704
...But yes, I do see good things happening in amiga land, in all camps MOS, AROS, OS4, classic OS, FPGA,... Most of the time it's not done by the people who make the most noise on the forums though.

understatement of the decade:afro:
Title: Re: Freescale unveils next-generation QorIQ platform
Post by: itix on June 23, 2011, 06:36:40 AM
Quote from: Fats;646694
Not really, but I do find his comments on OS4 and X1000, being a MOS core developer, inappropriate.
A troll would be somebody who posts the same thing again as post #5, #9, ...

greets,
Staf.


Btw when I read it again I only see AROS developer commenting OS4 and X1000... :-) what Piru wrote was about posting opinions and speculations as news.
Title: Re: Freescale unveils next-generation QorIQ platform
Post by: billyfish on June 23, 2011, 04:22:28 PM
Quote from: itix;646646
It is not official. But they have missed Q2 and summer vacation season in Europe is beginning now. If they can start beta testing with beta testers in August/September they could make it to early 2012. I dont see how they could get it out faster than that.


Ah, ok. To be honest neither of us really have a clue as we don't know what state the OS completion for the X1000 is in, how many beta-testers there are, etc. I've worked on large projects where beta-testing has taken from a couple of weeks to months. "Pin the tail on the donkey" time! :-)
Title: Re: Freescale unveils next-generation QorIQ platform
Post by: billyfish on June 23, 2011, 04:23:44 PM
Quote from: itix;646745
Btw when I read it again I only see AROS developer commenting OS4 and X1000... :-) what Piru wrote was about posting opinions and speculations as news.


C'mon, it was *one* line in a news item and anybody could spot that it was an opinion rather than a hard-nosed fact. Mountains. molehills...
Title: Re: Freescale unveils next-generation QorIQ platform
Post by: Fats on June 23, 2011, 07:44:53 PM
Quote from: itix;646745
Btw when I read it again I only see AROS developer commenting OS4 and X1000... :-)


??? Maybe I'm going insane but I thought I made a tongue-in-cheek comment about Piru and his intimate relationship with OS4/X1000 but did not say anything about OS4/X1000 itself.
 
greets,
Staf.