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Title: Cloanto 2009 Boot CD
Post by: Roman78 on June 01, 2011, 10:30:45 AM
I have a simple question, but i'm unable to find the information on the internet.

I own the Amiga Forever 2009 from Cloanto. It's possible to boot from that cd and run OS 3.x on a x86 machine without to boot an other OS first. But i want to know what kind of emulation they use for it. The cd boot's faster than my XP/W7 installation.

I'm planning to make a desktop machine to run OS 3.x native. The benefits is that's it's faster and cheaper than an original Amiga. For example: whit sysinfo i get 637 Mips and 681 mflops on my machine. Think there's no turbo card that can be that vast. And i'm thinking to build this into an Amiga 500 case.
Title: Re: Cloanto 2009 Boot CD
Post by: jj on June 01, 2011, 11:18:52 AM
Its a lightweight Linux dist
Title: Re: Cloanto 2009 Boot CD
Post by: Roman78 on June 01, 2011, 11:40:10 AM
Yes, i noticed that. But is it available to download or buy?
Title: Re: Cloanto 2009 Boot CD
Post by: Thomas on June 01, 2011, 11:43:29 AM
Quote from: Roman78;641691
But is it available to download or buy?


You wrote that you own AF2009, so you already bought it, didn't you?

The distro is Knoppix, the emulator is one of the Linux UAE derivates, don't know which, probably E-UAE.

If you are after an installation guide, search the knowledge base at amigaforever.com.

Edit: there it is: http://www.amigaforever.com/kxlight/installation/
Title: Re: Cloanto 2009 Boot CD
Post by: Roman78 on June 01, 2011, 11:50:59 AM
Yes bought the AE 2009.

Ok lets try to make an independent installation.
Title: Re: Cloanto 2009 Boot CD
Post by: jj on June 01, 2011, 11:56:28 AM
Why not just use a porper linux dist, best of both worlds then.
 
That dist is designed to be used as a live cd.
 
You would be better off going with ubunto or ( insert fav linux dist) , will still boot resally fast compared to windows.
Title: Re: Cloanto 2009 Boot CD
Post by: Duce on June 01, 2011, 12:02:31 PM
If you don't mind running a very minimalistic Windows backbone (that you will never even see, when setup properly), I've had extremely good luck with systems setup described in the following PDF.

http://wowohl.de/Amiga_XP_x86.pdf
Title: Re: Cloanto 2009 Boot CD
Post by: Roman78 on June 01, 2011, 12:03:10 PM
This boots faster than ubuntu. I also have ubuntu running on other machines. But this is going to be an Amiga eeehhh call it clone.

@Duce, i think a stripped of linux disto can boot baster than an XP installation. What i'm missing in the manual is getting rid of some services like security center or automatic updates.

/edit: Now i installed it. But it wont go further than a gray screen whit the Amiga forever logo. When im pressing ctrl+alt+f1 i get the console screen whit the error messag: Starting the X windows System... mtrr: your processor doesn't support write-combining.
Title: Re: Cloanto 2009 Boot CD
Post by: jj on June 01, 2011, 12:40:44 PM
The advantage of using windows is that winuae is much more advanced than any of the linux versions of UAE
Title: Re: Cloanto 2009 Boot CD
Post by: Roman78 on June 01, 2011, 12:50:23 PM
hmmm that's something to think about. Can strip and XP installation to the minimum, so that it can run in 24 meg. Will try that too.
Title: Re: Cloanto 2009 Boot CD
Post by: haywirepc on June 01, 2011, 01:23:30 PM
I tried many different things for running a dedicated amiga emulation "clone". After lots of trial and error I ended up using a copy of windows xp, stripped it down as bare bones as I could. Next, remove windows and replace with winuae/os3.9 as the shell.
 
You can also remove the windows boot screens and so on so you'll never even see windows (Unless you need to fix something) This is a very workable solution and works the best of everything I tried.
 
I tried for a long time to use the knoppix installation, but its buggy and under developed, and limited to 800x600 unless you mess with the xorg configuration files and so on, and even then its not very stable.
 
I think windows underneath but kind of stripped and removed is the best way to go, and I tried everything. Yes takes a bit longer to boot but once booted, its very stable and usable. I rarely need a reboot.
 
Who knew windows could be so stable. You just need to replace the windows shell with Amiga OS! hahaha
 
Steven
Title: Re: Cloanto 2009 Boot CD
Post by: Duce on June 01, 2011, 01:38:44 PM
Well put, Haywire.  I'm EXTREMELY happy with my minimal XP install that boots right into 3.1.  Hell, even the WinUAE plugin for my G 19 keyboard LCD screen works.