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Title: Fair value of my stuff?
Post by: X-ray on May 30, 2011, 08:05:41 PM
Yep, haven't used my Amiga stuff for some time, other projects have been getting in the way.
So I need to find out what this small collection of stuff is worth (a fair price to the buyer and me also). It would be a local collection in London:
 
A4000T (Amiga Technologies).
 
Flaws and non-standard features:
 
Case isn't mint, there are two scratches and a dent and also yellowing. The bezel is mechanically sound but yellowed.
Hard drive mounting bracket has been cut for easy access to CPU card, ports module has been cut (the SCSI terminator has been separated so that the small D-sub cut-outs on the back of the case can be accessed).
The CIA chips have been socketed, the coin cell and its clips removed and there is instead a battery pack installed which is probably dead since it is about 5+ years old).
No box, but all the manuals, disks and accessories are present. I am the original owner of this miggy, it was bought in 1996 in Croydon UK.
No monitor (it was faulty and I gave it away)
It has an ATX PSU, and a spare AT PSU
 
PIV with Concierto and Paloma
Cyberstorm PPC 233 with 128mb RAM
DKB3128 with 128mb RAM (there are three of these)
Three hard disks (one ultrawide SCSI and two 50 pin SCSI)
SCSI CD rom
 
Spares:
 
Disk Module
A/V module
CPU card: 030 card for troubleshooting
Keyboard (NOS A2000 keyboard)
CIA chips
 
Other stuff:
 
A500 and black mamba RF modulator
Cyberstorm MKII with CyberSCSI (doesn't tolerate overclocking)
60mHz crystal for above Cyberstorm
Technosound Turbo 2 sampler
Vidi 24 RT Pro digitiser with old skool video camera
Subway card (unused since my Kickflash died)
SCSI ZIP drive
Various cables and connectors (SCSI, printer, Cocolino, SCART etc)
Canon BJ230E printer (you can take it or scrap it, I used it way back to do A3 black and white printing on the Amiga as a student)
Various mice and joysticks
 
Original boxed software:
 
Cinema 4D
Image FX
Make CD
Scala MM400 (this version has no dongle and IIRC it was an upgrade from 300)
Some games (nothing special or rare)
 
Oh and I'll throw in whatever hardcopy and digital X-ray imaging I have of miggy-related stuff.
 
A lot of the hardware has been photographed over the years and there are pictures in the gallery.
Title: Re: Fair value of my stuff?
Post by: TheBilgeRat on May 30, 2011, 08:11:24 PM
jeez - that much kit is worth whatever you ask for it

I'd say a couple large if ebay is any indication.  that PPC card is damn near a grand on its own.
Title: Re: Fair value of my stuff?
Post by: Xanxi on May 30, 2011, 08:26:54 PM
Quote from: X-ray;641427
Yep, haven't used my Amiga stuff for some time, other projects have been getting in the way.
So I need to find out what this small collection of stuff is worth (a fair price to the buyer and me also). It would be a local collection in London:
 
A4000T (Amiga Technologies).
 
Flaws and non-standard features:
 
Case isn't mint, there are two scratches and a dent and also yellowing. The bezel is mechanically sound but yellowed.
Hard drive mounting bracket has been cut for easy access to CPU card, ports module has been cut (the SCSI terminator has been separated so that the small D-sub cut-outs on the back of the case can be accessed).
The CIA chips have been socketed, the coin cell and its clips removed and there is instead a battery pack installed which is probably dead since it is about 5+ years old).
No box, but all the manuals, disks and accessories are present. I am the original owner of this miggy, it was bought in 1996 in Croydon UK.
No monitor (it was faulty and I gave it away)
 
PIV with Concierto and Paloma
Cyberstorm PPC 233 with 128mb RAM
DKB3128 with 128mb RAM (there are three of these)
Three hard disks (one ultrawide SCSI and two 50 pin SCSI)
SCSI CD rom
 
Spares:
 
Disk Module
A/V module
CPU card: 030 card for troubleshooting
Keyboard (NOS A2000 keyboard)
CIA chips
 
Other stuff:
 
A500 and black mamba RF modulator
Cyberstorm MKII with CyberSCSI (doesn't tolerate overclocking)
60mHz crystal for above Cyberstorm
Technosound Turbo 2 sampler
Vidi 24 RT Pro digitiser with old skool video camera
Subway card (unused since my Kickflash died)
SCSI ZIP drive
Various cables and connectors (SCSI, printer, Cocolino, SCART etc)
Canon BJ230E printer (you can take it or scrap it, I used it way back to do A3 black and white printing on the Amiga as a student)
Various mice and joysticks
 
Original boxed software:
 
Cinema 4D
Image FX
Make CD
Scala MM400 (this version has no dongle and IIRC it was an upgrade from 300)
Some games (nothing special or rare)
 
Oh and I'll throw in whatever hardcopy and digital X-ray imaging I have of miggy-related stuff.
 
A lot of the hardware has been photographed over the years and there are pictures in the gallery.


Nice stuff!

You are the guy who is a X-ray technician and make radiographs out of his hardware?
Then you should give it all to me as i work as a senior staff radiologist here :D
Title: Re: Fair value of my stuff?
Post by: Kernel on May 30, 2011, 08:48:41 PM
I'd be willing to take the Picasso IV off your hands.  If you are interested in parting it, give me a PM and we can discuss.
Title: Re: Fair value of my stuff?
Post by: fitzsteve on May 30, 2011, 10:23:47 PM
PM sent - interested in the lot if we can agree a price :)
Title: Re: Fair value of my stuff?
Post by: VingtTrois on May 30, 2011, 11:10:13 PM
Quote
Scala MM400 (this version has no dongle and IIRC it was an upgrade from 300)

You should still need a dongle with SCALA, even with the upgrade. :huh:
Title: Re: Fair value of my stuff?
Post by: X-ray on May 31, 2011, 12:12:22 AM
Scala: this version has no dongle, there was a separate release note with it that advertised this fact, I promise :)
Title: Re: Fair value of my stuff?
Post by: AmigaFun on July 06, 2011, 07:47:22 PM
Hi

Is the A4000T still available?
Title: Re: Fair value of my stuff?
Post by: X-ray on July 07, 2011, 07:56:42 AM
The overwhelming demand is that I split this lot up.
I'll need to get a camera, get some pics and post them.
Title: Re: Fair value of my stuff?
Post by: motrucker on July 07, 2011, 12:00:59 PM
Quote from: X-ray;648543
The overwhelming demand is that I split this lot up.
I'll need to get a camera, get some pics and post them.

I wouldn't do that. Although some people may squeal, you are very likely to get stuck with many parts of the package. Stick to your guns....
Title: Re: Fair value of my stuff?
Post by: J-Golden on July 07, 2011, 03:36:52 PM
I agree mainly with motrucker. If you want to sell certain parts, do it for the things that are already separate. Or match items that complement each other and sell them as sets.
 
But don't tear apart the system. If it is in good working order, it is only because it took quite a bit of upgrading, patching, installing, repatching, reloading, cleaning and care. That alone is worth quite a bit in Amigaland. ;)
 
Remember, it is your stuff and you can sell it as you like. I can tell from your initial post that you aren’t out to swindle people and that speaks for it's self.
 
And if you don't get any takers here for certain items, you can always post it on Amibay. Where, by the way, you are NOT allowed to ask people to split up items for sale.
 
It's also free to post. ;)
Title: Re: Fair value of my stuff?
Post by: AmigaFun on July 07, 2011, 09:33:14 PM
I did not read the original post as being sold as a job lot, had I known that the seller wanted to sell as one whole lot, I would not have asked.

X-Ray, sorry if I miss-read the original post
Title: Re: Fair value of my stuff?
Post by: BinoX on July 07, 2011, 10:07:03 PM
If I hadn't bought a house recently I'd have made a very good offer for all that... But as it is I have no money and I don't think it's a very good idea to go diving into my overdraft since that's my emergency backup, lol

Unless you decided to let it go to me for free because you think it would look good photographed next to an A3000T (or that I seem like a nice guy, or I'll take any reason, lol)

Good luck with the sale :)
Title: Re: Fair value of my stuff?
Post by: X-ray on July 24, 2011, 04:19:45 PM
Okay let's see if Motrucker is right. I'm going to post pictures and a more detailed inventory. I want £1800 for the lot, Fitzsteve will have first refusal. Collection only from NW5 in London.
If the lot doesn't go I will split it.
These pics aren't the greatest, I can take others if you want.

Pics of the A500 (it is yellowed):

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/A50000.jpg)

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/A50001.jpg)

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/A50005.jpg)

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/A50006.jpg)

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/A50004.jpg)

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/A50003.jpg)

It has some sort of Supra 512k RAM card with a dead coin cell:

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/A50002.jpg)

This A500 definitely works, I have inspected it inside and out and set it up with RF modulator, joystick and mouse and tested it with Rodland. Here is the setup:

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/A50010.jpg)
Title: Re: Fair value of my stuff?
Post by: X-ray on July 24, 2011, 04:36:23 PM
A4000T: many pictures of that in the gallery, taken with a lot more care than the ones below, but I wanted to make sure you could see the case blemishes and current state of the bezel (which is yellowed but otherwise undamaged).

Overall view of the main case (lid removed):

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/A4000TMaincase.jpg)

Then some pictures of scratches:

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/A4000TMaincase02.jpg)

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/A4000TCaseLid03.jpg)

Overview of the case lid. This has a dent and some scratches also. It is quite difficult to photograph the dent, needs an angle just so:

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/A4000TCaseLid.jpg)

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/A4000TCaseLid02.jpg)

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/A4000TCaseLid04.jpg)

The bezel is good:

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/A4000TBezel.jpg)

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/A4000TBezel02.jpg)

No missing drive bay covers, all pieces intact.

Case stands:

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/A4000TStand.jpg)

The A4000T has a new ATX PSU with an ATX to AT converter and a 110/240V switch. The switches on the bezel will behave as normal.

There are three spare PSUs, all tested working. One ATX and two ATs.
This is the original AT PSU:

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/A4000ToriginalPSUAT.jpg)

This is a NOS AT PSU:

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/A4000TsparePSUAT.jpg)

Spare ATX PSU:

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/A4000TsparePSUATX.jpg)

All three spares have a female connector for a monitor, but only the original AT PSU has a 110/240V switch.
Title: Re: Fair value of my stuff?
Post by: X-ray on July 24, 2011, 04:56:08 PM
Accessories:

Manuals and disks came in this box:

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/Manuals00.jpg)

The manuals have been stored in individual bags, they are in mint condition:

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/Manuals01.jpg)

These are the floppies that came with the A4000T:

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/Manuals02.jpg)

They are now stored in a hard case.

There are joystics and a spare mouse.

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/Joysticks.jpg)

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/JoysticksandMouse.jpg)

I use a black 3 button Wizard mouse on the A4000T (not shown).

OS 3.9 and some miscellaneous CDs:

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/OS39.jpg)

Spare parts. NOS A/V module and NOS Disks module. Two spare crystals, one is 60mHz and the other is 66mHz.
As this A4000T has had the CIA chips socketed, here are spare CIAs (two NOS, two that were removed from SMT). The CIAs that are currently on the motherboard were installed by Monsieur Boulet in France a few years ago. There are pictures of that in the gallery.

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/A4000TsparesCIAchips.jpg)

IDE to CF adapter, with a 32mb card, tested working (I'll throw in a CF reader in case you eant to read that card on a PC):

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/IDtoCFadapter32mb.jpg)

The original keyboard is yellowed with slight fade on the A and E keys:

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/A4000TKeyboard.jpg)

There is a spare NOS A2000 keyboard (works fine on the A4000T):

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/A2000Keyboard.jpg)

There are two converters to use these keyboards on an A4000D (not shown).

Floppies:

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/Floppies.jpg)

Four boxes of 720k floppies, two still sealed, and various used floppies and a drive head cleaner.

Also not shown: two of Ian Steadman's PC floppy drive adapters and a NOS PC floppy drive.

Also not shown a Cocolino mouse adapter and a spare PC mouse, a 23-pin video to VGA converter and the case keys for the mouse and eyboard lock on the bezel (I have the original keys and several others that also work).
Title: Re: Fair value of my stuff?
Post by: X-ray on July 24, 2011, 05:09:44 PM
There is an external SCSI Zip Drive and 4 100mb disks:

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/ZIPDrive00.jpg)

Cables and software for the ZIP:

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/ZIPDrive01.jpg)

And a PC SCSI card in case you want to access that ZIP drive from a PC:

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/ZIPDrive02.jpg)

There is another SCSI cable not shown, a MicroD to SCS1 and also a SCSI1 to SCSI1 (I used to have an external SCSI hard disk case).

Parallel port video digitiser. Vidi Amiga RT24 Pro (no box):

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/VidiAmiga24RTPro.jpg)

Parallel port sound sampler. Technosound Turbo 2 with box:

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/TechnosoundTurbo2.jpg)

MakeCD V3.2 (Track at once version):

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/MakeCDV32TAO.jpg)

Image FX 2.6 (no box):

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/ImageFX.jpg)

Cinema4D (three different versions, I upgraded it twice):

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/Cinema4DV2-V3-CDEdition.jpg)

Scala MM300 with MM400 upgrade (this version has no dongle):

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/ScalaMM300-MM400.jpg)

There is a Lola 2000 Genlock (with manual) not shown, but there are pics of it in the gallery.

Various SIMMS: The four on the left are 16mb, I dont know what the others are.

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/SIMMs.jpg)
Title: Re: Fair value of my stuff?
Post by: X-ray on July 24, 2011, 05:26:59 PM
Back of the A4000T:

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/A4000TMaincase03.jpg)

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/A4000TMaincase04.jpg)

Messy view of the inside with the PPC:

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/A4000TInside.jpg)

View of the Zorro slots: 3 DKB cards, each one with 128mb RAM, one PIV with Paloma and Concierto, one Subway which is not attached to anything.
That Subway used to be attached to a Kickflash but the Kickflash died.
I bought that Subway from Amigakit, it has the Poseidon stack.

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/A4000TInside02.jpg)

CyberSCSI module for MKII Cyberstorm. It has a backplane mount for A4000D (originally supplied in box) and also a backplane arrangement for the A4000T and a spare external connector (you could run two external devices if you wanted). Various SCSI cables not shown:

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/CyberSCSI.jpg)

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/CyberSCSI02.jpg)

Note this CyberSCSI does not tolerate overclocking, you have to run the Cyberstorm at 50mHz if this is atttached.

More pics in the gallery, there is Cyberstorm MKII and a spare 030 based CPU card for trouble-shooting.

The A4000T has a SCSI CD writer, a floppy, a WIDE SCSI drive, two standard SCSI drives (one is a 4.3 GB Quantum fireball) and there are two spare SCSI hard-disks (IIRC they are 1gb but I will check later)

There is a load of kit here. Excluding the A4000T itself, the kit takes up one large suitcase, a large tupperware box and also a sport bag.
You won't be lugging this on the tube or bus :lol:
Title: Re: Fair value of my stuff?
Post by: X-ray on July 24, 2011, 05:35:23 PM
Gallery pics here (good pictures of the PIV, CS2, Lola2000, A4000T mobo and all the other stuff not photographed here):

http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?q=x&page=1

http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?q=x&page=2

http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?q=x&page=3

The SCSI tape drive isn't mine, and the battery pack pictured in the gallery for the A4000T is assumed dead.
There are no barrel batteries anywhere in this kit, and therefore no leaks!
Title: Re: Fair value of my stuff?
Post by: fitzsteve on July 24, 2011, 05:53:18 PM
Hi!

Yes I'm still very interested, I'll drop you a PM so we can make arrangements :)

Steve.
Title: Re: Fair value of my stuff?
Post by: X-ray on August 28, 2011, 12:02:51 PM
Steve has just collected the stuff, it is sold.
Nice to meet you Steve and I hope you enjoy that A4000T as much as I have over the years.
Title: Re: Fair value of my stuff?
Post by: fitzsteve on August 29, 2011, 01:28:07 AM
Quote from: X-ray;656451
Steve has just collected the stuff, it is sold.
Nice to meet you Steve and I hope you enjoy that A4000T as much as I have over the years.

Hey Brandon, thanks for being so accomodating and getting everything ready for me.

I'll keep a project thread going over at EAB if you ever want to check it out:

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=774751#post774751

Really apprecaiate all the advice and really pleased to own this machine and thanks for the X-Ray's, etc.

You're a credit to the community.

Steve.
Title: Re: Fair value of my stuff?
Post by: X-ray on August 29, 2011, 10:18:24 AM
You're welcome, Steve. Thanks for the smooth transaction and good luck with the project!

EDIT: I had some PMs asking if there is anything else I have for sale. There is nothing left, Steve got the whole collection.