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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: carvedeye on May 26, 2011, 07:53:46 PM
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Hi all im using X-Copy TNG on my amiga 1200 and i have a lot of disks that need repaired and was wanting to know if you guys (and gals) could tell me which program to use i have these programs installed from the x-copy disk.
X- it
XCopyPro
Cyclone1201
DiskCopier
XLent Pro
Xpress
QED
XLent
Any one know what i need to do i only have DF0: if that is of any help.
TIA Ray
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Any one?
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I think most of those programs are really only for copying disks not actually repairing them... :(
It also depends what you mean by "repair" are they just straight forward Amiga DOS disks with read errors on them are or you talking about original games disk that may be written in their own special format !!!
Of the top of my head I think DiskSalv was pretty good at salvaging Amiga DOS disks but for disks that have their own formats (ie: most commercial games disks) then I can't really think of anything that would be able to repair them... :(
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I think this is what your looking for
http://aminet.net/package/disk/salv/DiskSalv11_32
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Hi all im using X-Copy TNG on my amiga 1200 and i have a lot of disks that need repaired and was wanting to know if you guys (and gals) could tell me which program to use i have these programs installed from the x-copy disk.
X- it
XCopyPro
Cyclone1201
DiskCopier
XLent Pro
Xpress
QED
XLent
Any one know what i need to do i only have DF0: if that is of any help.
TIA Ray
I suggest you first clean your floppy drive carefully and as thoroughly as you can. Get a floppy disk cleaning disk and solution and run it several times, get some compressed air to blow out the floppy drive, or search on Aminet for directions on how to clean and adjust Amiga floppy drives. There might even be a floppy drive adjusting software program, IIRC. I have found that a lot of my original floppy disks that show read errors on one floppy drive are perfectly readable on another floppy drive.
Then, if all else fails, try to use Disksalv, or other disk recovery programs to salvage as much data from your floppy disks as possible, but they are only able to fully recover and reproduce 100% of a floppy disk rarely (at least from my own experience). Trying to duplicate a damaged floppy disk is a tough job, but most of the time I have been able to get a different floppy drive to read floppy disks that have read errors on one of my other floppy drives after using a drive cleaning disk.
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Thanks guys, i have cleaned the floppy several times but that did not work so will give disksalv a go will let you all know how i get on :)
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Well I have tried disksalv and I have had no luck it takes ages to read the disk and the program deleted everything on it all I want is a program that when a floppy disk is inserted it will give me an option to repair the blocks. Is there a program that can do it?
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Well I have tried disksalv and I have had no luck it takes ages to read the disk and the program deleted everything on it all I want is a program that when a floppy disk is inserted it will give me an option to repair the blocks. Is there a program that can do it?
You were obviously using it wrong (bet you never read the docs...eh...;))
I you had used it properly you wouldn't have had things deleted and would have in actual fact had all successfully recovered files safely stored in RAM: or wherever you chose to store them during the salvaging process... ;)
You could try again with DiskSalv (but read the docs this time) or look on AmiNet for a very old utility called "FixDisk" it's not as good as DiskSalv but it should be simple enough for you to use, just remember to read the docs first this time... ;)
Here's a link to FixDisk on AmiNet... :)
FixDisk on AmiNet (http://aminet.net/search?query=fixdisk)
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Franko thanks for the reply i have set disksalv to repair mode and started the repair process but is it suppose to take such a long time to do it? i remeber back in the day when i had an old copy of x-copy and i could scan the disk, it would then find the faults on the disk and then repair them?
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I think there was an option on X-Copy to validate the track that had just been written.
It didn't really fix games though.
Disc Salv is probably your best option.
Or you could download an ADF/IPF of the faulty software and then use something like adf2disc to put it onto a floppy
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@ Carvedeye
DiskSalv can take what seems like a long time simply because it was the best written program of it's type, it does a lot more checking of the disks and carries out a lot more recovery options/ attempts compared to others like FixDisk, but it's worth the extra time spent if the disk is valuable to you... :)
I've never known X-Copy to have a repair function in it. It has a "checkdisk" function to report errors but no salvage or repair function (at least X-CopyPro which I still use hasn't)... :)
Handy tip:-
A very simple way to check a floppy disk properly that you may be going to use to write stuff to is:- Use X-Copy to FORMAT the disk as it will soon tell you if the disk has any bad sectors that can't be written to... :)
This also applies to disks that you can't Format using the Amiga's Format command or menu. For example some programs (mostly games) will write it's high scores or saved games in a non-DOS format. If you chose later on on to use these disks for something else but when you try to Format them with the Amiga DOS Format command/ menu option and find you can't, then use the Format option in X-Copy and in most cases this will make the disk fully usable again (it's great for recovering disks that appear to appear to Amiga DOS to be knackered) ... :)
If I may ask, what is it your trying to repair and what is it you have now managed to delete totally as myself or others here may be able to help you out in replacing these damaged disks... :)
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well if disk salv is like hdd repair software Ie hdd repair software when run fully usually takes like 24 hours but i would think take much less than 24 hours for a floppy ie less than 1 megabyte.
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i will give disksalv another go and be patient when its doing its job :) . I was testing disksalv out with the disk that loss its data but it is not that important to me as it was only a bckup of a font disk.
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well if disk salv is like hdd repair software Ie hdd repair software when run fully usually takes like 24 hours but i would think take much less than 24 hours for a floppy ie less than 1 megabyte.
It takes 20 to 30 minutes AT MOST to run all the DiskSalv options on a floppy... :)
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Disksalv supposedly wrecks disks..
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Disksalv supposedly wrecks disks..
Never had a problem with it myself... :)
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@ carvedeye
Use DCopy instead of X-Copy. It's far more professional and it has also
an "Error Corrrection" option. You can download it here from Aminet: DCopy3.1 (http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/DCopy31)
Read the doc file carefully before you start any actions to your disk, though.
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Siegfried-Copy (http://aadb.amiga.me/data/siegfriedcopy19se.html) is another great diskcopy program.
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Well i think i now know what the problem is when ever im trying to format any floppy disk (full format not a quick format) my system says it cant read cyclinder 0 so im guessing that 1 or both of my CIA chips are faulty.?
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@carvedeye,
Before you trash too many floppy disks, I suggest that you buy or borrow a known good external floppy drive to test your disks on. If you are finding a lot of your floppy disks have read errors, it might just be that your floppy drive, DF0: is marginal and needs replacing.
Replacing the CIA chips is also not a bad idea.
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I have tested the floppys on 2 disk drives and still get the same error? so could it be that my CIA chip(s) are faulty?
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I have tested the floppys on 2 disk drives and still get the same error? so could it be that my CIA chip(s) are faulty?
Was this after using Disksalv on those floppy disks?
As others may have mentioned, some versions of Disksalv have been known to trash disks, instead of repairing them as advertised.
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Well i think i now know what the problem is when ever im trying to format any floppy disk (full format not a quick format) my system says it cant read cyclinder 0 so im guessing that 1 or both of my CIA chips are faulty.?
Um, I remember catching a virus that caused this same behaviour, I think because the virus would modify the boot sector immediately after the cylinder was formatted and before it was verified. I don't remember which virus that was. Are you sure your system is clean?
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I have had the problem before tried different hard drives done fresh installs of workbench but the problem is still there I've also notice my mouse is playing up aswell as my gamepads so I'm thinking that my CIA chips could be the fault :(
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I have had the problem before tried different hard drives done fresh installs of workbench but the problem is still there I've also notice my mouse is playing up aswell as my gamepads so I'm thinking that my CIA chips could be the fault :(
Can't guarantee that it will fix your problem, but replacing the CIA chips is a simple procedure, if you have access to the replacement chips. I have only had to do it once, when I lost the proper function of my mouse long ago on an A2000. I don't really remember what caused it to go bad, or how I traced the problem to the CIA chip, but replacing it fixed the problem I was having, so I quickly forgot about it. IIRC, I only had to replace one of my CIA chips and I don't remember how I knew which one to replace.
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Can't guarantee that it will fix your problem, but replacing the CIA chips is a simple procedure, if you have access to the replacement chips. I have only had to do it once, when I lost the proper function of my mouse long ago on an A2000. I don't really remember what caused it to go bad, or how I traced the problem to the CIA chip, but replacing it fixed the problem I was having, so I quickly forgot about it. IIRC, I only had to replace one of my CIA chips and I don't remember how I knew which one to replace.
Where can i buy/get replacement CIA chips from?
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Can't guarantee that it will fix your problem, but replacing the CIA chips is a simple procedure
Not on an A1200.
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I used ARestaure to recover data from disks.
http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/amiga/fish/701-800/ff760/
http://amiga-fish.erkan.se/amiga-fish-disk-760-content-ARestaure/
http://www.mingos-commodorepage.com/tools/tools_detail.php?system=Amiga&id=61&title=ARestaure&type=Tools
Sadly the old repair on DiskSalv does tend to make the disks a bit unusable and you really have to be careful what you ask the software to do. In the end it is unlikely you will mend physical damage and mostly its a case of taking what you can. If you can't copy the disk then its normally Coopers Ducks. Having a good external floppy drive can help. Many disks work on some drives better than others. Mostly I leave well alone.
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Disk Salv is by far the best program to use. Version 2 is far from the best however. Try to find V3 or V4 instead. These are the commercial versions, but will work! it is well worth the effort to find one of these disks.
When the drive was cleaned - was a solvent used? If not, then they were not cleaned.
Finally, even the commercial versions of Disk Salv can take a long time to work.
Sounds as if there may be another problem with the floppy drive...
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:lol: I used X-copy III on my a500 to fix games allot back in the day ? worked for me:confused: