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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: Kernel on May 20, 2011, 06:01:28 PM
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Opinions on the best TCP Suite for OS3.1 - OS3.9? I'm just getting back into Classic Amiga and purchased a DENEB USB for my A3K and will be hooking up the NetGear dongle soon...
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I've never had an issue using Genesis (that comes with OS3.9), but I have a feeling that the word "best" will turn out to be quite debatable :)
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Im using Genesis aswell, does everything I want. But then I think MiamiDx is capable of just a bit more.
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I use Miami, always have but then I have mine configured with Samba for all my networking. Both work as well I guess. My A1200 is linked to the BTHomehub and uses broadband without issue and I have my other computers linked via a script I wrote with icons on the desktop. This allows me to use other drives from other machines as network drives. The XP machine is the only one that struggles hand shaking, not cus the Amiga can't see it but more that it seems to send my SMB in a loop. Scout shows this up as does SnoopDOS... Doesn't afftect things. Took me a while to configure Samba though once done works a treat. Genesis worked fine also but I just couldn't customise it as well as Miami. Helps also that I have a registered version of MiamiDX.
Anyway.. Good luck.
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I would stick with Miami, especially if you'll be using the internet/netradio streaming. AmiTCP/Genesis is a bit faster for local transfers though.
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Is MiamiDX still available to register? I actually had a registered copy of it way back in thel late 90's before I sold (boo hoo) my first A3000.
Anyone used EasyNet from AmigaKit?
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Genesis (OS 3.9) just worked for me so I never looked beyond (that is.. dhcp did not work, but I didn't care)
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Tom UK
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Is MiamiDX still available to register? I actually had a registered copy of it way back in thel late 90's before I sold (boo hoo) my first A3000.
Anyone used EasyNet from AmigaKit?
Im using it. I forget what it actually includes, but once I got around the hiccups coming from not having manually configured this stuff in years, it works great.
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There are three API flavors for TCP/IP or UDP .. on Amiga:
* AS225 - The official Commodore TCP/IP stack with hardcoded drivers for A2065.
* SANA-II - Lot of support but uses an inefficient buffer handling scheme, and misses proper support for promiscuous and multicast. Bloated API.
* Miami Network Interface (MNI) - Lacks the SANA-II problems but instead suffers from lack of documentation and licensing restrictions. Requires AmigaOS v2.04 at minimum.
Write a new API ..?
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Out of curiosity, has anyone thought about using the BSD tcp/ip stack with Amigas? At one time, BSD (up to 3.2) was on Amigas.
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I have tried several TCP-IP stacks in all these years:
Termite TCP 1.60, which was great but only supported slip connections.
AmiTCP 4.3, which was also great and powerfull, but a nightmare to set up.
Genesis (both the 3.9 and version 1.08) were great, but lacking support for dinamic IPs.
Miami Deluxe was the best, but it was unfortunately slower than the rest.
I was never able to get Interworks I-Net 225, and I never knew anyone who used it. :(
Then there is RoadShow which should be commercially released soon, and promises the highest speeds and lowest requirements but unfortunately, it will have no GUI to configure it.
For the time being, if you have a fast Amiga, I would use Miami Deluxe (its keyfiles are available on the internet). If not, then AmiTCP is a reasonable choice. If you have 3.9 and have a fixed IP address, then go the Genesis route.
I hope it helps :)
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I other words.. choice your pain! ;)
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Out of curiosity, has anyone thought about using the BSD tcp/ip stack with Amigas? At one time, BSD (up to 3.2) was on Amigas.
Both AmiTCP and Miami are based on the BSD stack.
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Both AmiTCP and Miami are based on the BSD stack.
Genesis is based on AmiTCP 4.5 so it is also based on the BSD stack. The upcoming RoadShow too.
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Out of curiosity, has anyone thought about using the BSD tcp/ip stack with Amigas? At one time, BSD (up to 3.2) was on Amigas.
Hm, not sure what you mean with "up to 3.2", but latest NetBSD 5.1 officially supports Amiga.
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Hm, not sure what you mean with "up to 3.2", but latest NetBSD 5.1 officially supports Amiga.
He probably meant OpenBSD, which supported Amigas until version 3.2
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Hm, not sure what you mean with "up to 3.2", but latest NetBSD 5.1 officially supports Amiga.
Really! My google-fu must be weak...
EDIT: Sho-Nuff! http://www.netbsd.org/ports/amiga/
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He probably meant OpenBSD, which supported Amigas until version 3.2
I did. But still, NetBSD still supported. That is pretty sweet. Although I wonder how many days it would take to compile Eclipse for a NetBSD A4000 :lol:
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Genesis is based on AmiTCP 4.5
More precisely Genesis is a GUI for AmiTCP/IP.
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I think the question is a TCP-stack under AmigaOS not a TCP-stack builtin into *BSD..
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Yes, that is what I meant. I've been away so long I was wondering which was the best, or which are the best, for the Amiga Classic.
An explanation of which each one is would be good too... it sounds to me like a lot of them are merely config pages built around AmiTCP whereas Miami(DX) is a full suite unto itself?
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I use AmiTCP. It's supposed to be hard to set up, but there's a guide floating about detailing the exact procedure. I'll try to find it later! The most obvious benefit is that it's free, and as far I've used it I can't really say that it's missing anything I'd want. I've been using it for FTP and some casual browsing with AWeb on my A1200 + 8mb Fast RAM.
I think that Amikit sells a prepackaged version of this stack that's easy to set up and configure, but with the guide I mentioned, it's really not necessary.
EDIT: The guide: http://www.acc.umu.se/~patrikax/amiga/guides/AmiTCP_Install/
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On WB 3.0/3.1, I've been using AmiTCP 3 (something version 0b2?? Not at my Amiga).
It's text files to setup (the GUI install works to a point), but once setup, it's OK...
It's (version 3) the last free version, 4 has registration/nag screens, but works (30 minutes or something like that?).
AmiTCP 2.x is easier to find and works, but there are a few things that want version 3 or higher...
I haven't tried any of the SSL stuff with it, I just use it for basic browsing (aminet mostly) and FTP and it works great for that...
I seem to remember that easynet is also AmiTCP3, but I don't use easynet..
(I like text files ;-)
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