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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: Kernel on May 19, 2011, 08:01:18 PM
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Since I'm just finding my way back onto this scene, I'm trying to build up my A3000 system and need to look at all the options. Can someone comment on the following questions as I've not been able to find all the information I've been looking for by searching the Googlenet...
1) Is the DENEB card still manufactured/available?
2) Any known issues with using external USB hubs with these?
3) Anyone with one of these ever used an external CD/DVD drive on it?
Thanks!
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Since I'm just finding my way back onto this scene, I'm trying to build up my A3000 system and need to look at all the options. Can someone comment on the following questions as I've not been able to find all the information I've been looking for
by searching the Googlenet...
1) Is the DENEB card still manufactured/available?
2) Any known issues with using external USB hubs with these?
3) Anyone with one of these ever used an external CD/DVD drive on it?
1) Yes, AmigaKit has it in stock last I checked.
2) Yes, some of the chipsets have problems - check http://www.platon42.de or the Poseidon documentation
3) Yes, I have for example, installed AmigaOS 4.1 Classic using an external USB CDROM connected to a Deneb.
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1) Yes, AmigaKit has it in stock last I checked.
2) Yes, some of the chipsets have problems - check http://www.platon42.de or the Poseidon documentation
3) Yes, I have for example, installed AmigaOS 4.1 Classic using an external USB CDROM connected to a Deneb.
Amigakit does not have them in stock ATM, but Vesalia does. I am worried as this is my next foo purchase, but I really hope they aren't all gone by the time I get one :D
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I had some problems with mixed ZIP Ram memory (mixed manufacturer & not same speed). It's better to have Buster 11 and same type of ZIP. My USB Floppy drive (USB) is recognized but don't works.
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3) Anyone with one of these ever used an external CD/DVD drive on it?
Yes, I have a little slim CDROM and it works just fine. It takes 2 cables however, one for data and another for power. I have never had a problem; I just plug it in when needed.
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Amigakit does not have them in stock ATM, but Vesalia does. I am worried as this is my next foo purchase, but I really hope they aren't all gone by the time I get one :D
If you are a regular customer, ask them to put one aside for you, but only if the time before you can purchase is short. Asking them to wait more than a week or so would not be cool. They might say no, or they might say yes, it does not hurt to ask.
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1. yes, it is still manofactured and sold, just like subway.
2. no issues so far.
3. I used a cdrw external unit without problems. I used a mountlist I got from morphzone although I guess nowadays it may automount.
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For those of you with the external CD drives... you can confirm that the DENEB can be used with them if they require both ports (one data, one power)?
I was looking for a drive that used A/C power but am having a hard time. If the card can power the drive by using both ports then I'm fine with that. I'm going to try to find a powered hub that will work anyhow.
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For devices that draw alot of power from usb, a powered usb hub is recommended.
No one can confirm for you, unless you state the exact model cd drive you are asking about, not every one has the same power requirements. It's really not worth getting worked up over, any computer shop is going to have powered hubs for only a few bucks.
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For devices that draw alot of power from usb, a powered usb hub is recommended.
No one can confirm for you, unless you state the exact model cd drive you are asking about, not every one has the same power requirements. It's really not worth getting worked up over, any computer shop is going to have powered hubs for only a few bucks.
Well, this was recommended to me by Michael B. E3B, to use a powered hub, when using a dual cable USB CDROM drive.
Still, I have not had an issue at all with mine, connected direct. I also do not leave it plugged in all the time, aforementioned.
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Perfect - thanks for the quick responses guys!
Ordering shortly.
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If you are a regular customer, ask them to put one aside for you, but only if the time before you can purchase is short. Asking them to wait more than a week or so would not be cool. They might say no, or they might say yes, it does not hurt to ask.
I'm not that regular - yet! I like vesalia, but they tend to be more expensive for us 'Mericans.
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We have Deneb USB in stock and available now:
http://www.amigakit.us/product_info.php?products_id=795
Hope this helps!
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We have Deneb USB in stock and available now:
http://www.amigakit.us/product_info.php?products_id=795
Hope this helps!
Sweeeet!
now my paycheck just needs to get "in stock" :lol:
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We have Deneb USB in stock and available now:
http://www.amigakit.us/product_info.php?products_id=795
Hope this helps!
Wow. You really need to put an expected date on your page when you are out of stock. I've been watching it like a hawk these past few days and I ended up ordering from Versalia earlier today because you were still listed as out of stock. I guess I could still cancel that since I have not paid it yet - need other things I was gonna order from you anyhow so I'll save a bit if I go that route.
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Ok AmigaKit, don't let me down. I just shifted the order for the DENEB to you. I'm still getting something from Vesalia so it's really a win-win situation for us all.
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I found a number of hubs available cheaply and readily do not work with the Deneb. In the end, I finally located a slot-mounted four-port hub which works beautifully. When I get back home I'm planning to put up some documentation of my experiences.
Also, there are plenty of multi-card readers which don't work properly, and again I hunted down one that does, again beautifully.
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Deneb back in AmigaKit?! WHOOP!!!! Ah......yes.....forgot no money at the moment! DAMN IT!
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Also, there are plenty of multi-card readers which don't work properly, and again I hunted down one that does, again beautifully.
I found this to be true as well, mainly the cheaper ones. I finally bought a nice Lexar UDMA reader that works very well... transfer rate is a little slower than I hoped and CPU use is somewhat high for DMA, but I fear this may just be the nature of USB over Zorro. Sure as hell beats the internal IDE, anyway.
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Wow! AmigaKit has fast delivery over the ocean!
I just received my DENEB (ordered Friday) and a few other things from them, plus I'm starting to receive other stuff for my venture from other sources such as my USB DVD-RW and SCSI 80/50 adapters.
Soon I'll have my hands back into the thick of things...
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Wow! AmigaKit has fast delivery over the ocean!
I just received my DENEB (ordered Friday) and a few other things from them, plus I'm starting to receive other stuff for my venture from other sources such as my USB DVD-RW and SCSI 80/50 adapters.
Soon I'll have my hands back into the thick of things...
You'll love the Deneb, great piece of hardware :)
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Well, I just installed the WD8 Chip and 16MB Fast RAM... gonna wait to install the DENEB though as I need to replace the HD an want to do a clean 3.1 install first. Waiting on the SCSI 80-50 adapter - we'll see if it gets here tomorrow...
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Ok got the card installed, had to install Installer and move it to ZII mode and then install MUI for trident; it apparently recognizes my Network dongle and the DVD-RW however I'm unsure how to actually use them! Any hints for a noob?
EDIT: got the DVD-RW working! Looked in the Trident message log and found device and unit to use woo hoo!
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Ok got the card installed, had to install Installer and move it to ZII mode and then install MUI for trident; it apparently recognizes my Network dongle and the DVD-RW however I'm unsure how to actually use them! Any hints for a noob?
EDIT: got the DVD-RW working! Looked in the Trident message log and found device and unit to use woo hoo!
Here's a post I made here when I first got my Deneb working with my Ethernet dongle. Hopefully it will be of some use to you:
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Here's a little something to share with everybody, I've got my A4000D surfing the net using the Deneb USB card, OS3.9 and an off-the-shelf PC USB Ethernet device.
Here's the USB Ethernet device I bought for $19.99:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=443248&CatId=589
I plugged it into the Deneb which immediately detected it and mounted it as USBASIXETH.DEVICE unit 0.
Save your USB settings.
Now configure Genesis using the wizard"
Select "Network" for how you plan to connect.
For device enter "usbasixeth.device" and set unit as "0"
Under SANA II configuration select "no"
Don't worry about it not detecting your network address, just manually enter your own (my home network assigns 192.168.0.xxx so I used 192.168.0.110).
Enter your subnet mask (probably 255.255.255.0) and your router address (in my case 192.168.0.1)
Enter your Domain Name Server (DNS) - 192.168.0.1 in my case
Enter your Domain Name ("cablerocket.net" in my case).
Reboot your Amiga and check your Trident prefs and you should see your ethernet adapter up and running. Check Genesis and put the USBASIXETH0 device online if it isn't already. Open your web browser and start surfing!
I hope this helps. :-)
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Thanks - finally got the dongle working! I'm using EasyNet from AmigaKit and for some reason it kept balking on the device. I had to manually go in and set it to usbpegasus.device in the easynet.cfg file and it started working.
I cna ping to it and form it, but I cannot seem to get Amiga Explorer running properly. It starts up in TCP/IP mode, I set the packet size to 32768 on both ends, made sure the password was correct, and even opened up port 356 in amiTCP (it logs that it accepted the connection) but I get "unable to access TCPIP port" on the PC side.
I'd say this was a pain but I'm having fun.
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Don't forget to go to the E3B site and flash the firmware to v11 (If it isn't already).
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I'll definately check that in the AM.
Question... is the starting graphic for the DENEB supposed to look like it was chizled/rotting away from the screen? It almost looks like something is wrong with my display but then again, it could be done like that on purpose.
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I'll definately check that in the AM.
Question... is the starting graphic for the DENEB supposed to look like it was chizled/rotting away from the screen? It almost looks like something is wrong with my display but then again, it could be done like that on purpose.
LOL. From what I remember, yes. You can disable it IIRC by reflashing the ROM without the startup screen module.
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Where would I find the firmware version? I looked in the utils but perhaps I missed it?
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Where would I find the firmware version? I looked in the utils but perhaps I missed it?
Without having access to my Deneb, I can't honestly remember. Flash it anyway. You'll either be told that the v11 firmware is already installed or it will just replace it regardless. As the lastest firmware only came out in February I'm betting you don't have anything newer than v9.
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Flash it anyway.
Erm, no. Please check first the readme file for V11 firmware upgrade, and decide if you need it.
The DENEB firmware version can be found out by checking the autoconfig serial number with a tool like Scout (recommended tool). Choose "expansion", click the DENEB entry (#3643 #10), and see the serial number there in decimal.
Mine (for example) says 3820162831 here, which is in hex 0xE3B30F0F.
Which means: 0xE3B is me, 3 is Zorro III firmware, and 0F0F is my beta firmware marking.
The #3643 #19 entry says 3820949263, which is hex 0xE3BF0F0F.
Which means: 0xE3B is me, F is FlashROM card, 0F0F is beta firmware.
Sorry, I haven't a real V11 running here in my setup right now (playing with VHDL :-) )
This is also described in the FAQ section on my website, just as a hint ;-)
Michael