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Title: Copying files from modern Mac to LC III - Help
Post by: dougal on May 19, 2011, 07:04:16 PM
I want to copy some games to my Macintosh LC III using CD-ROM

The Macintosh is system 7.1 OS and has a SCSI CD-ROM drive.

I followed these instructions (link below) to burn a cd using my PowerMac (Leopard)

http://main.system7today.com/articles/tutorials/osxos7cdburning.html

The LC III reads the cd and sees the files but they do not open on the LC III.

I tried opening them using Stuffit 4.0 (On the LC III) but it just does not see them. Its as though (i dont understand) the files were broken when copying them to cd.

They are .sit files

I understand Amigas, Modern Macs and PCs but i am a total noob with this System 7 thingy so any help will be appreciated.  :)
Title: Re: Copying files from modern Mac to LC III - Help
Post by: dougal on May 19, 2011, 09:50:33 PM
anyone?
Title: Re: Copying files from modern Mac to LC III - Help
Post by: Tenacious on May 19, 2011, 10:21:18 PM
Quote from: dougal;638970
I want to copy some games to my Macintosh LC III using CD-ROM

The Macintosh is system 7.1 OS and has a SCSI CD-ROM drive.

I followed these instructions (link below) to burn a cd using my PowerMac (Leopard)

http://main.system7today.com/articles/tutorials/osxos7cdburning.html

The LC III reads the cd and sees the files but they do not open on the LC III.

I tried opening them using Stuffit 4.0 (On the LC III) but it just does not see them. Its as though (i dont understand) the files were broken when copying them to cd.

They are .sit files



I understand Amigas, Modern Macs and PCs but i am a total noob with this System 7 thingy so any help will be appreciated.  :)




IIRC, the LC III uses a 68030 processor.  It will only run software compiled for 680x0 processors.  When Apple switched to PPCs, they made provisions for the new CPUs to run older (680x0 style) software.  They also began writting fat software that would run on both during a transition period.  

As you know, Apple has a number of strategies, in additition to periodically switching CPUs, for obsoleting their older stuff.

I have several rescued "pizza box" Macs, including a LC III.  I think they are cool.  You can still get 680x0 software on the net, sites like pure-mac and others.

Naturally, this older 680x0 software is the same software that Amigas can run under emulation, like Fusion, etc.
Title: Re: Copying files from modern Mac to LC III - Help
Post by: Daedalus on May 19, 2011, 10:41:18 PM
Is it as simple as them being packed with a too-new version of Stuffit? Can you unpack them on your new Mac?
Title: Re: Copying files from modern Mac to LC III - Help
Post by: dougal on May 20, 2011, 06:06:49 AM
The software is old games which are for 68K macs not PPC.

I think the file may be broken because when i was using a floppy disk to copy stuffit using Macdisk on XP it asked a question about the integrity (not quite the word) but something about the file structure and when i clicked YES the Stuffit file would Not run.

When i said NO the file did run on the Mac.

There must be something incompatible in the file structures that may be damaging the file when i copy it from my OS X Leopard PPC machine to CD.

Basically i need some sort of guide to get software onto the LC III seeing that it has no LAN or USB and floppy disks are too small to carry anything larger than 1.4mb.
Title: Re: Copying files from modern Mac to LC III - Help
Post by: dougal on May 20, 2011, 12:38:10 PM
bump
Title: Re: Copying files from modern Mac to LC III - Help
Post by: Tenacious on May 21, 2011, 03:34:28 AM
I used a SCSI Zip drive on the older Macs (and Amigas) and USB Zips on newer hardware.  It seems the older Macs would even read PC formatted Zip disks.
Title: Re: Copying files from modern Mac to LC III - Help
Post by: ErrethAkbe on May 21, 2011, 04:11:24 AM
Hi, I'm not sure how much this will help, but it's worth a shot:

Have you considered using emulation instead of the old Mac hardware?  If your need is to play older System 7 games and the like, a program like Basilisk II might do the trick.  I have a couple of old programs from those machines that I like, and rather than keep the old hardware around I find that it's good enough to do what I need to do.

If you really need to exchange data with this old hardware, I think Toast can produce the oldskool Mac HFS CD file system. That might be your best bet.

HTH
Title: Re: Copying files from modern Mac to LC III - Help
Post by: Motormouth on May 21, 2011, 04:34:24 AM
You could use a localtalk to ethernet bridge.  I think 10.5 still supports the appletalk protocol.
look at
http://www.asante.com/products/CardsAdapters/AsanteTalk.asp

I have had localtalk 7.x machines talk to ethernet Mac OS 9.2 machines successfully via the asantetalk
I will warn you, localtalk is sssllllllooooowwww, but otherwise works well.
Title: Re: Copying files from modern Mac to LC III - Help
Post by: commodorejohn on May 21, 2011, 05:36:56 AM
I keep several different versions of StuffIt Expander on my Mac - it's the most finicky goddamn archiver I've ever encountered (I blame their obvious attempts to thwart reverse-engineering by switching up the formats every version.) For any given version of the program, there's absolutely no guarantee of backwards or forwards compatibility with archives made by other versions D: