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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: digiflip on May 18, 2011, 08:08:22 PM

Title: FPGA Arcade Mounted in Amiga 600 shell
Post by: digiflip on May 18, 2011, 08:08:22 PM
could I use keyrah to use an a600 keyboard with Fpga arcade?
Title: Re: FPGA Arcade Mounted in Amiga 600 shell
Post by: mfilos on May 18, 2011, 09:16:43 PM
Since Keyrah transforms an A600/A1200 keyboard to a USB one... I guess that any device that can use an USB HID Keyboard will be just fine.
Title: Re: FPGA Arcade Mounted in Amiga 600 shell
Post by: billt on May 18, 2011, 10:05:40 PM
Quote from: digiflip;638765
could I use keyrah to use an a600 keyboard with Fpga arcade?


Sounds like it would work, while also using a USB->PS2 adapter. I'm not sure how useful the USB ports the addon card for FPGA Arcade are to Minimig, maybe it'd work directly, should be able to make it work directly anyway. Or, since it's an FPGA, recode something to put a keyboard adapter directly on the FPGA expansion bus. :)

But seems like it should be fine. Of course, time, and somebody who has all that in one place, will tell.
Title: Re: FPGA Arcade Mounted in Amiga 600 shell
Post by: digiflip on May 18, 2011, 10:17:47 PM
So if used keyrah does it just need the keyboard and power . Or does it have to use the whole computer?
Title: Re: FPGA Arcade Mounted in Amiga 600 shell
Post by: Belial6 on May 18, 2011, 10:36:28 PM
USB to PS/2 adapters are generally passive devices, so it depends on how the encoder of the USB keyboard.  I would think that if it works with other PS/2 computers it should work with the FPGAArcade.  Maybe someone with a keyrah can test it with a standard PC while we wait for the FPGAArcades.
Title: Re: FPGA Arcade Mounted in Amiga 600 shell
Post by: freqmax on May 19, 2011, 12:24:45 AM
The USB port on FPGA Arcade is wired to the ARM chip. If the ARM can do controller mode AND the firmware process this the right way it may work. Otherwise.. PS/2 port has to be used.
mikej/yaqube has to clarify.
Title: Re: FPGA Arcade Mounted in Amiga 600 shell
Post by: Belial6 on May 19, 2011, 01:53:42 AM
It sure would be cool if we could use USB keyboard/Mice/Joysticks.
Title: Re: FPGA Arcade Mounted in Amiga 600 shell
Post by: amigadave on May 19, 2011, 09:02:09 AM
Quote from: freqmax;638812
The USB port on FPGA Arcade is wired to the ARM chip. If the ARM can do controller mode AND the firmware process this the right way it may work. Otherwise.. PS/2 port has to be used.
mikej/yaqube has to clarify.

Probably have to wait for the 060 daughtercard to be finished, as it appears to have 3 USB ports added to it that could be used for a keyboard and mouse.

@Belial6,

USB joysticks are junk and you would want to stick with the Amiga/Atari style digital joysticks instead.  I bought one of those USB joysticks and sold it soon after, as the response time from it makes it almost unusable for most games.
Title: Re: FPGA Arcade Mounted in Amiga 600 shell
Post by: freqmax on May 19, 2011, 09:26:09 AM
USB is a pile of shit overhead and latency ontop of wasted cpu-polling.
Title: Re: FPGA Arcade Mounted in Amiga 600 shell
Post by: Belial6 on May 19, 2011, 03:25:35 PM
Quote from: amigadave;638847
Probably have to wait for the 060 daughtercard to be finished, as it appears to have 3 USB ports added to it that could be used for a keyboard and mouse.

@Belial6,

USB joysticks are junk and you would want to stick with the Amiga/Atari style digital joysticks instead.  I bought one of those USB joysticks and sold it soon after, as the response time from it makes it almost unusable for most games.


Are you talking about the competition pro USB joystick that were a known to be a bad implementation?
Title: Re: FPGA Arcade Mounted in Amiga 600 shell
Post by: wizard66 on May 20, 2011, 11:09:39 AM
Quote from: Belial6;638903
Are you talking about the competition pro USB joystick that were a known to be a bad implementation?


Who want's to give up a real amiga joystick port for a USB anyway ?
USB joysticks sucks bigtime.
I realy want to use the USB port For HDD storage or something :-)
Title: Re: FPGA Arcade Mounted in Amiga 600 shell
Post by: jj on May 20, 2011, 11:44:13 AM
So how come usb mice and keyboards do/dont suck arse ?
 
Or joypads for that matter ?
Title: Re: FPGA Arcade Mounted in Amiga 600 shell
Post by: kolla on May 20, 2011, 12:47:15 PM
Keyrah doesn't work with PS2 adapter, it's a "pure" USB device.