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Title: 3.9. Unable to boot into ECS mode?
Post by: runequester on April 29, 2011, 05:05:13 AM
So a few games (Battle Isle, Dune, Monkey Island) needs to be booted into ECS mode from the early boot menu (when holding down both mouse buttons)

But after I've installed 3.9, this no longer seems to work. Am I hosed or is there another way to do it?
Title: Re: 3.9. Unable to boot into ECS mode?
Post by: Darrin on April 29, 2011, 05:29:43 AM
Quote from: runequester;634299
So a few games (Battle Isle, Dune, Monkey Island) needs to be booted into ECS mode from the early boot menu (when holding down both mouse buttons)

But after I've installed 3.9, this no longer seems to work. Am I hosed or is there another way to do it?


Strange.  Anything to do with the ROM updates?  Try switching the A1200 off and then turn it on and instantly hold down the mouse buttons before it gets a chance to loaded OS3.9 and update the Kickstart from the hard drive.
Title: Re: 3.9. Unable to boot into ECS mode?
Post by: runequester on April 29, 2011, 05:34:27 AM
Im guessing it has to be related to the ROMs yeah.

I'll try your option later tonight and see if it works.
Title: Re: 3.9. Unable to boot into ECS mode?
Post by: runequester on April 29, 2011, 07:59:42 AM
Just tested it and even from a cold boot, it doesn't make any difference. :(
Title: Re: 3.9. Unable to boot into ECS mode?
Post by: psxphill on April 29, 2011, 08:36:07 AM
Quote from: runequester;634307
Just tested it and even from a cold boot, it doesn't make any difference. :(

Are you booting the games off floppy or from your hard drive?
If when booting from your hard drive it reboots after installing some patches etc then it might forget your decision. IIRC there is software that allows you to switch back to ecs after booting workbench.
 
It's been a while, so I don't know if it's this that I used to use but it was something similar.
 
http://aminet.net/package/util/misc/RunLame
Title: Re: 3.9. Unable to boot into ECS mode?
Post by: runequester on April 29, 2011, 08:38:23 AM
Quote from: psxphill;634309
Are you booting the games off floppy or from your hard drive?
If when booting from your hard drive it reboots after installing some patches etc then it might forget your decision. IIRC there is software that allows you to switch back to ecs after booting workbench.
 
It's been a while, so I don't know if it's this that I used to use but it was something similar.
 
http://aminet.net/package/util/misc/RunLame


This is off hard drive (from floppy, they work fine).

I'll check that out, thanks! :)
Title: Re: 3.9. Unable to boot into ECS mode?
Post by: Bamiga2002 on April 29, 2011, 09:32:20 AM
If the CLI/WB screen is activated before game launch it might interfere try a program like TUDE (aminet) to sort it out.
Title: Re: 3.9. Unable to boot into ECS mode?
Post by: Thomas on April 29, 2011, 10:05:04 AM
Quote from: runequester;634299
So a few games (Battle Isle, Dune, Monkey Island) needs to be booted into ECS mode from the early boot menu (when holding down both mouse buttons)

But after I've installed 3.9, this no longer seems to work. Am I hosed or is there another way to do it?



For me it works as expected. The ROM update reboots the Amiga and you have to change the boot options after each reboot. So you have to wait until the ROM update is active and only then hold down both mouse buttons. You can see that the ROM update is active by the fact that the new options Double PAL and Double NTSC are available in the Display Options of the boot menu.
Title: Re: 3.9. Unable to boot into ECS mode?
Post by: foleyjo on April 29, 2011, 12:04:10 PM
I get the early startup menu but when I boot (or boot without startup) the screen goes white and I have to press AA+CTRL to reset again. The options I selected still work though.
Title: Re: 3.9. Unable to boot into ECS mode?
Post by: MaximvsPayne on April 29, 2011, 12:23:20 PM
just use noaga

http://aminet.net/package/util/misc/NoAGA
Title: Re: 3.9. Unable to boot into ECS mode?
Post by: smerf on April 29, 2011, 01:09:31 PM
Quote from: runequester;634299
So a few games (Battle Isle, Dune, Monkey Island) needs to be booted into ECS mode from the early boot menu (when holding down both mouse buttons)

But after I've installed 3.9, this no longer seems to work. Am I hosed or is there another way to do it?


Hi,

Usually the setpatch command in the startup-sequence enables aga. Try putting a semi-colon in front of it to disable it.

smerf
Title: Re: 3.9. Unable to boot into ECS mode?
Post by: tone007 on April 29, 2011, 01:13:12 PM
Quote from: Thomas;634324
For me it works as expected. The ROM update reboots the Amiga and you have to change the boot options after each reboot. So you have to wait until the ROM update is active and only then hold down both mouse buttons. You can see that the ROM update is active by the fact that the new options Double PAL and Double NTSC are available in the Display Options of the boot menu.


This. I had the same issue switching from NTSC mode to PAL mode, gotta wait for the second boot to change the options.
Title: Re: 3.9. Unable to boot into ECS mode?
Post by: runequester on April 29, 2011, 03:34:07 PM
Lots of suggestions. I'll try some of them today and report back. Thanks guys! :)
Title: Re: 3.9. Unable to boot into ECS mode?
Post by: zipper on April 29, 2011, 04:29:28 PM
Quote from: smerf;634342
Hi,
Usually the setpatch command in the startup-sequence enables aga. Try putting a semi-colon in front of it to disable it.


What I know, not usually but always...
Title: Re: 3.9. Unable to boot into ECS mode?
Post by: runequester on April 29, 2011, 11:58:09 PM
okay, so timing the mouse buttons during the boot process (during the soft reboot) worked.

I'll check out the tools provided too though, to see if I can get it working easier


Thanks guys!
I was concerned about not being able to play Battle Isle anymore.
Title: Re: 3.9. Unable to boot into ECS mode?
Post by: Darrin on April 30, 2011, 12:08:50 AM
Quote from: runequester;634478
okay, so timing the mouse buttons during the boot process (during the soft reboot) worked.

I'll check out the tools provided too though, to see if I can get it working easier


Thanks guys!
I was concerned about not being able to play Battle Isle anymore.


Have you tried the WHDLoad version?