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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: actung_bab on April 28, 2011, 11:23:16 PM
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http://www.gamespot.com/features/6310453/index.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=picks&tag=picks%3Btitle%3B7
mentions that atrai where way before all this new stuff intresting read
i was just thinking after reading more article if amiga place was here all those years ago
maybe it was way to early but amiga 1200 and 600 where very much console like
in there ability to just be turned on and work no fuss pity ball was droped so long ago
Maybe this where hyperion chould employ some young women and people with
not blinded by main stream gaming and break niche market for themselves
WHO know with xmos chip maybe chould devlop some intresting new gaming controllers well interact with games to make it apeal to familys
come in cammy after all the amiga was there too
or the
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Interesting read but I dunno if I agree with all that is said in it, WHAT video game crash in 83, back in 83 the C64 had just taken off and was well on it's way to being the all time top selling home computer... :)
Also the original Commodore (CBM) ads were way out in front when it came to TV ads at that point in time for both the VIC 20 & C64... :)
Commodore VIC 20 Ads (http://www.commodorescotland.com/#/vic-20-tv/4545162714)
Commodore C64 Ads (http://www.commodorescotland.com/#/c64-tv/4545162598)
Still, interesting read none the less... :)
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Interesting read but I dunno if I agree with all that is said in it, WHAT video game crash in 83, back in 83 the C64 had just taken off and was well on it's way to being the all time top selling home computer... :)
Also the original Commodore (CBM) ads were way out in front when it came to TV ads at that point in time for both the VIC 20 & C64... :)
Commodore VIC 20 Ads (http://www.commodorescotland.com/#/vic-20-tv/4545162714)
Commodore C64 Ads (http://www.commodorescotland.com/#/c64-tv/4545162598)
Still, interesting read none the less... :)
yes did cross my mind too i didnt think commodore c64 then i i didnt have intrest in computers back then more into my motrobikes
id thought was more slump than crash oh well how about posting on there saying
your wrong hehe
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I'm not really sure what point it's trying to make. Atari didn't build its success by trying to draw in people that the existing home game market didn't cater to, because there was no existing market. It was a success because it was the first home video game machine that was both capable and affordable. And it didn't appeal to everyone because it had titles designed to cater to women and parents, it appealed to everyone because it existed in the age before the great and terrible Marketing Demons declared that testosterone-fueled boys and young men were the Only Possible Target Audience for video games and game companies became slaves to that demographic, so there was a brief and wonderful window of time where programmers just got to make some damn good games.
I mean, if the article were arguing on that basis that Nintendo ought to be more like Atari and abandon focus-grouped pablum to just make some good games, I'd agree entirely, but they seem to be coming at this like they think Atari had some kind of conscious outreach program for disenfranchised gamers, which is ridiculous. (And besides, crap casual games aside, Nintendo is one of the few companies left that is actually trying to do that. Of course, they have a bigger problem in that they can't seem to make anything that isn't a sequel to a sequel to a sequel anymore, but that's a separate issue entirely.)
Really, what the industry needs isn't an outreach program for non-gamers - what it needs is to line up all the marketers and focus groups against the wall and shoot them in the head, force themselves to abstain from sequel-making for the next ten years, slash dev teams to no more than fifteen people per game, and just start making games again.
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The video game crash I think was more focused in the USA as apposed to Europe. Also it was very much related to Consoles like the Atari 2600 they were supposedly burying millions of units of unsold stock in the desert around New Mexico. Loads of ET cartridges which was possibly one of the worst games of all time! Its worth a play now as its so bad its quite funny!
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The video game crash I think was more focused in the USA as apposed to Europe. Also it was very much related to Consoles like the Atari 2600 they were supposedly burying millions of units of unsold stock in the desert around New Mexico. Loads of ET cartridges which was possibly one of the worst games of all time! Its worth a play now as its so bad its quite funny!
:lol:
While I take that with a pinch of salt, it would be nice to think in a couple of hundred years time some archaeologists digging in the desert around New Mexico and finding all those old consoles and putting that together with Roswell and concluding that these consoles must have been some part of the fabled crashed spaceship... :D
Hmm... wonder if there's any truth in that though, might be worth going on a treasure hunt... ;)
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I have not read this article yet, but if memory serves correctly, Nintendo approached Atari in regards to producing titles for the system. That system being the Atari 7800 which had completed development before the Nintendo Famicom was even a glint in Nintendo's fatherly eyes.
At this time Atari was being sold, and a couple of the chips inside the 7800 had been developed by a couple different companies, so it's release was delayed a couple years till they figured out who was going to pay them off; The new owners (The Tramiel family) or the old.
Needless to say, Atari never ended up doing business with Nintendo. I even heard that Nintendo even asked Atari if they could use the Atari logo on their Famicom Game System when they released it state side. Obviously Atari once again refused, so we ended up with a gaming unit called The Nintendo Entertainment System.
When the 7800 did finally release it all but bombed in the market. Only us die hard Atari fans bought one, though we generally had a Nintendo sitting around as well, since Nintendo had a monopoly on all the 3rd party development at the time, and therefore all the cool releases (not that the Atari or SMS did not have a few killer releases of their own).
From what I understand, according to a recent issue of Atari User Magazine, the 7800 pretty much blew away all 8-bit consoles at the time, with a few minor exceptions here and there. The Nintendo was certainly at the bottom on the barrel in regards what it could do, which was plain to see by anyone who owned a Sega Master System at the time. Sadly Atari did not have many people developing for it, so there really are not any games out there that show off it's true power.
O.K., I suppose I better go and read this article now. ;)
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yes did cross my mind too i didnt think commodore c64 then i i didnt have intrest in computers back then more into my motrobikes
id thought was more slump than crash oh well how about posting on there saying
your wrong hehe
Nah... I'd better not go posting on there I might upset the locals (too busy doing that here anyway)... ;)
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:lol:
While I take that with a pinch of salt, it would be nice to think in a couple of hundred years time some archaeologists digging in the desert around New Mexico and finding all those old consoles and putting that together with Roswell and concluding that these consoles must have been some part of the fabled crashed spaceship... :D
Hmm... wonder if there's any truth in that though, might be worth going on a treasure hunt... ;)
Well, the burial (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_video_game_burial) was a real event that took place shortly after the colossal failure of the game; general speculation is that that's where the huge numbers of unsold copies went, but that's not known for certainly. Definitely a plausible theory, at least.
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@ Commodorejohn
Man... that's absurd... I take it Atari have never heard of recycling... :crazy:
Mind you back then there weren't the laws that cover manufacturers from just dumping stuff like that like we have these days, still one hell of a waste though even if they do claim some of the stuff was damaged or broken... :(
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@ Commodorejohn
Man... that's absurd... I take it Atari have never heard of recycling... :crazy:
Mind you back then there weren't the laws that cover manufacturers from just dumping stuff like that like we have these days, still one hell of a waste though even if they do claim some of the stuff was damaged or broken... :(
I could not care less about Atari hardware and cardridges, but I wonder what happened to all these Amiga accelerator boards sent to DCE for repair (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2633). Were they sent back or dumped, scraped and recycled?
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I could not care less about Atari hardware and cardridges, but I wonder what happened to all these Amiga accelerator boards sent to DCE for repair (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2633). Were they sent back or dumped, scraped and recycled?
Well...
I could not (just like you couldn't) care less about all these accelerator boards, what I want to know is what happened to Lord Lucan (http://www.lordlucan.com/lucan_story.htm) ... ;)
PS:Im perfectly happy with my Phase5/DCE PPC and 060 boards cos I didn't send mine for repair... :)
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The millions of ET carts were indeed buried in a landfill and covered in tons of concrete. The console crash wiped out the market as people turned to computer disk/tape games for a 1/3 of the cost due to many over priced substandard arcade conversions. Probably the same reason Amiga sales dropped off and consoles came back in fashion in the 90s ;)
NES is for dumb idiots mind, Zelda and Mario are just average too so in EU NES was a dead end. PC-Engine I could understand people wanting OTOH.....
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Oh phooey on you. There were some damn fine games on the NES, and I'll brook none of this snobbery.
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Well...
I could not (just like you couldn't) care less about all these accelerator boards, what I want to know is what happened to Lord Lucan (http://www.lordlucan.com/lucan_story.htm) ... ;)
PS:Im perfectly happy with my Phase5/DCE PPC and 060 boards cos I didn't send mine for repair... :)
If you bought your PPC boards recently, there is a great chance that you bought same of these boards. But why you should care... Hypocriticism at its best.
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If you bought your PPC boards recently, there is a great chance that you bought same of these boards. But why you should care... Hypocriticism at its best.
I bought mine about 6 years ago if I recall correctly and you're right why should I care, it's not a problem for me and if that's been a hypocrite then I'm a happy hypocrite with a fully working PPC board... :D
Kinda odd how you can say you couldn't care less about something then complain when someone else says the same, there's a word for that you know, Hmm... let me think... Oh yeah "Hypocrite" that's the word... ;)
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The millions of ET carts were indeed buried in a landfill and covered in tons of concrete. The console crash wiped out the market as people turned to computer disk/tape games for a 1/3 of the cost due to many over priced substandard arcade conversions. Probably the same reason Amiga sales dropped off and consoles came back in fashion in the 90s ;)
NES is for dumb idiots mind, Zelda and Mario are just average too so in EU NES was a dead end. PC-Engine I could understand people wanting OTOH.....
Never owned a NES but do have a number of SNES consoles and I'm quite happy to admit when it comes to playing games I prefer my SNES RPG games to anything on the Amiga... :)
The Amiga for me is about doing useful & creative stuff GFX/Audio/DTP/Programming etc... the SNES is brilliant for it's RPG games... :)