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Title: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: XDelusion on April 23, 2011, 10:16:01 PM
Behold, the MicroKorg!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOyiDAJiDpE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adVu639pjN4

And a video for the more traditional musician. ;P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp3mQPxw428


Needless to say, I'm in love, and this has a lot to do with why I've not so much as touched a girl in nearly four years. Sighhh...
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: XDelusion on April 24, 2011, 10:03:07 PM
Alright, I think I should start taking photos and recording videos of my set up.

Mind you, I am by no means a musician, and I am still trying to develop my "style", so half of what I'm doing ends up sounding like techno at the moment, but I'm working on over coming that mountain. ;)

As you may have guessed, I'm not a huge fan of techno, it's fun for a while, but I want to move on...

So what I've got hooked up to the A600 is the MicroKorg, an Atari 2600, and a Commodore 64. Currently I am only using the C64 for the samples as my Micromys mouse adaptor does not seem to like it at all, thus I can not take advantage of Mssiah's more advanced features unless I want to do it all via joystick. (bah!).

I'm be interested in seeing other's photos and videos of their Amiga MIDI set up, and perhaps to trade ideas on things they have done and can be done. Hopefully I'll get around to clearing of my DVD-R's and will record some videos of my set up in action...

...and on that note, hopefully the my old crappy mixer board will not screw up during the recordings.

Speaking of which, how does one go about fixing bad contacts on a mixer board anyhow? I thought wD40 was the way to go, but it only partially resolved my issues.
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: runequester on April 24, 2011, 10:38:44 PM
I am totally emailing one of my music friends with this btw :)
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: x303 on April 24, 2011, 11:21:15 PM
I know what you mean. Tha microkorg is great. :D Hope you like it as well, as i do.

Check out this guy, as he's pretty good with the microkorg: http://www.youtube.com/user/VIPKYD
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: XDelusion on April 25, 2011, 12:39:28 AM
I just got it a couple days ago, and I must admit, to a non-musician, the manual is very confusing, though there are plenty of guides on Youtube that have got me pulling off more tricks with this than I expected to be doing already.

Bottom line, I DO NOT resent forking out the $200 for this that I spent in the least bit!

Sadly it did not come with the mic. Any good suggestions for a quality replacement?
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: x303 on April 25, 2011, 01:11:34 AM
Yeah, but the one i pointed you at is pretty helpfull as it shows you exactly what to do, not just playing around.

You can put a normal mic (like my samson r21s) in audio line 1 [dynamic], just tested ;)
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: XDelusion on April 25, 2011, 01:23:21 AM
Yes, thank you for the link, very helpful!

As for the mic, I used one I have at home, it was not very loud which is why I want a replacement, but what I did was plug it into the line 1 port, then I ran some Bethoven into Line 2. I then set it up so that line 2 would only come through when Line 1 was in use, thus changing the "pitch?" of the Bethoven coming in through line 2. After playing with the knobs a bit I was able to create some really ethereal effects! I'm in love!!!
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: runequester on April 25, 2011, 05:59:59 AM
Post some pictures of your setup :)
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: magnetic on April 25, 2011, 09:59:14 AM
Xdelusion

Awesome post. That mini korg looks cool. However, not much octave range? What do you do hit a switch and get all the other keys?    Right now i have my a1200 with Octamed 5 a Pyramid Midi box attached to the serial port and a Boss Dr 202 "dr groove" drum machine.  i'm planning on adding a keyboard at some point as wel.. still learning octamed.
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: spihunter on April 25, 2011, 05:05:56 PM
Quote from: XDelusion;633436
I just got it a couple days ago, and I must admit, to a non-musician, the manual is very confusing, though there are plenty of guides on Youtube that have got me pulling off more tricks with this than I expected to be doing already.

Bottom line, I DO NOT resent forking out the $200 for this that I spent in the least bit!

Sadly it did not come with the mic. Any good suggestions for a quality replacement?


I have the same MicroKorg sitting here and I love it. I've only used it for the vocoder so far. Don't use the original mic that came with it. It sucks!. Use a real microphone. I have a SM-58 running through preamp hooked to it and it sounds great.
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: XDelusion on April 25, 2011, 05:55:06 PM
Runequester: Soon, I forgot to bring them with me today. :)

Magnetic: I really don't have anything else to compare it's octave range with, but I can say that it does have one at least, though certainly not as deep as OctaMED's. :)

None the less, if you want to spend $200 or less on a nice synth, this is the way to go.

Magnetic: At first I was cringing a wee bit because it was not analog, but now that I've seen what can be done with it, I'm not regretting it a bit.

spihunter: I'm new to a lot of this, midi, electronic devices, and so forth. It has been a collection I've slowly been buiding up, and slowly learning at the same time (amongst other hobbies), so I am greatful for any advise any one can give, such as your advice on the mic...

...on that note, what exactly is the difference between an amp and a pre-amp? I presume this is something that will boost the mic's output audio? If so does it cause any problems with over loading the MicroKORG and causing the light to turn red?
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: x303 on April 25, 2011, 08:17:17 PM
Quote from: magnetic;633483
Xdelusion

Awesome post. That mini korg looks cool. However, not much octave range?

Well, it should have a range from C0 - C9.

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What do you do hit a switch and get all the other keys?


Just press 'Octave shift' up or down.

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i'm planning on adding a keyboard at some point as wel.. still learning octamed.

The korg can also act like a masterkeyboard.
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: spihunter on April 25, 2011, 11:37:37 PM
Quote from: XDelusion;633550
Runequester: Soon, I forgot to bring them with me today. :)

Magnetic: I really don't have anything else to compare it's octave range with, but I can say that it does have one at least, though certainly not as deep as OctaMED's. :)

None the less, if you want to spend $200 or less on a nice synth, this is the way to go.

Magnetic: At first I was cringing a wee bit because it was not analog, but now that I've seen what can be done with it, I'm not regretting it a bit.

spihunter: I'm new to a lot of this, midi, electronic devices, and so forth. It has been a collection I've slowly been buiding up, and slowly learning at the same time (amongst other hobbies), so I am greatful for any advise any one can give, such as your advice on the mic...

...on that note, what exactly is the difference between an amp and a pre-amp? I presume this is something that will boost the mic's output audio? If so does it cause any problems with over loading the MicroKORG and causing the light to turn red?


You use a pre-amp when you have a mic that doesn't have battery power and your plugging into something that doesn't provide power. Some recording devices have "Phantom power" that provides power for standard mics.

Listen to the song "Battlestar Canada" in the link on my signature. I use the vocoder on my MicroKorg for most of the vocals.
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: magnetic on April 26, 2011, 12:41:22 AM
xdelusion

That comment about touching girls is awesome.. at least you have an excuse of being creative unlike Franko and the other fanboys :P

btw where did you get the korg for $200? I actually like the one with the black keys..


Also I thought this korg was designed to sound analogue? I read some reviews now I want one! Have you used it with octamed yet? Can you control samples with it?
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: minator on April 26, 2011, 01:48:22 AM
Quote from: spihunter;633576
You use a pre-amp when you have a mic that doesn't have battery power and your plugging into something that doesn't provide power.
Some recording devices have "Phantom power" that provides power for standard mics.


You have these a bit mixed up:

Phantom power is a power source for condenser Mics, they require power as part of their design though some have batteries as well.
Dynamic Mics do not require any power.
Note: Only use phantom power on things that need it, otherwise you could end up frying things!

Pre-amps are for everything.  It's the first thing a signal goes through when it goes into a mixer.  You use them to increase the level on Mics (all types), guitars and anything else (even synths if they need it).

All Mics will need to go through a pre-amp whether it has phantom power or not.

--

I'm learning a lot of this stuff at the moment as well but there's a lot of help out there.
Youtube has loads of stuff.

There's a free book here on setting up a studio:
http://www.recordingreview.com/killerhomerecording/KHR_SettingUp.php

ProAudioDVDs.com have a weekly free video.
They also have a DVD set called "Ultimate Home Recording School". Bit expensive but very good, covers a lot of the basic knowledge you'll need.
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: spihunter on April 26, 2011, 02:16:05 AM
Quote from: minator;633590
You have these a bit mixed up:

Phantom power is a power source for condenser Mics, they require power as part of their design though some have batteries as well.
Dynamic Mics do not require any power.
Note: Only use phantom power on things that need it, otherwise you could end up frying things!

Pre-amps are for everything.  It's the first thing a signal goes through when it goes into a mixer.  You use them to increase the level on Mics (all types), guitars and anything else (even synths if they need it).

All Mics will need to go through a pre-amp whether it has phantom power or not.

--

I'm learning a lot of this stuff at the moment as well but there's a lot of help out there.
Youtube has loads of stuff.

There's a free book here on setting up a studio:
http://www.recordingreview.com/killerhomerecording/KHR_SettingUp.php

ProAudioDVDs.com have a weekly free video.
They also have a DVD set called "Ultimate Home Recording School". Bit expensive but very good, covers a lot of the basic knowledge you'll need.



Yea, You know it's bad when I'm a 20 year veteran of this stuff and I can't get it right on a retro computer forum!. Thanks for clearing that up..:)
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: XDelusion on April 26, 2011, 04:27:38 AM
Minator: Great link, thankx!

Magnetic: I got mine at a local Christian Musick store of all places and talked them down on the price. Though I've seen them go for around the same price on Ebay.

Spihunter: Will check out track, thankx!

I need to upload some of my own material...


So to those who are using these with OctaMED (more here than I expected, wow!), can I send commands from within OctaMED to control more than just the keys? I.E. Adjust the filter, mixer, lfo, etc.?

Also, how do I tell octamed to not only trigger a key on the keyboard, but also to hold it down instead of press and release?
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: magnetic on April 26, 2011, 08:15:09 AM
xdelusion

I dont think that the microkorg has keys that sustain the notes..thats why octamed wont do it maybe?
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: XDelusion on April 26, 2011, 07:07:49 PM
Magnetic: I'm figuring that what ever can be done by hand should be able to do through OctaMED, but I could be wrong.


Spihunter: That track was awesome, reminds me of something...

GOing to check out more of your stuff, thankx again!
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: x303 on April 26, 2011, 09:08:17 PM
Quote from: XDelusion;633624
Magnetic: I got mine at a local Christian Musick store of all places and talked them down on the price.

Someone has seen the light ;)

Quote

So to those who are using these with OctaMED (more here than I expected, wow!), can I send commands from within OctaMED to control more than just the keys? I.E. Adjust the filter, mixer, lfo, etc.?

Also, how do I tell octamed to not only trigger a key on the keyboard, but also to hold it down instead of press and release?


That should be possible, so check the ss guide. Read the chapter named 'The MIDI Cmd 3cxx Window'. With command 05 and 00 you should be able to control everything. And check the korg manual for the controllers & values.
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: trekiej on April 26, 2011, 09:24:34 PM
That is a messed avatar.
Cool post though.
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: Ral-Clan on April 26, 2011, 09:38:33 PM
Quote from: XDelusion;633436
I just got it a couple days ago, and I must admit, to a non-musician, the manual is very confusing, though there are plenty of guides on Youtube that have got me pulling off more tricks with this than I expected to be doing already.

Bottom line, I DO NOT resent forking out the $200 for this that I spent in the least bit!

Sadly it did not come with the mic. Any good suggestions for a quality replacement?


You only paid $200 for the MicroKorg?  That's a steal for a synth this good.
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: spihunter on April 27, 2011, 01:31:43 AM
Quote from: XDelusion;633727
Magnetic: I'm figuring that what ever can be done by hand should be able to do through OctaMED, but I could be wrong.


Spihunter: That track was awesome, reminds me of something...

GOing to check out more of your stuff, thankx again!


Hey, Thanks for listening!. Let us know when you upload some of your stuff.
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: minator on April 28, 2011, 01:46:02 AM
Quote from: spihunter;633599
Yea, You know it's bad when I'm a 20 year veteran of this stuff and I can't get it right on a retro computer forum!. Thanks for clearing that up..:)


There's a lot to know!  I wasn't 100% sure myself so checked as I was writing it.

Great track BTW.
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: minator on April 28, 2011, 01:51:56 AM
Quote from: ral-clan;633778
You only paid $200 for the MicroKorg?  That's a steal for a synth this good.


How does it compare with real analogue?  I know a lot of the Analogue guys don't like virtual synths but what do you (or anyone who's tried both) think?

I've only heard them sparingly in shops but they sound pretty good.
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: XDelusion on April 28, 2011, 06:58:05 PM
Well, the OctaMED S.S. guide often times tells me to refer to the hard manual which I do not have, so...

....does anyone happen to have it in PDF?

Also there are many functions in the guide that I do not understand. Such as when it talks about using HEX values, or when it shows symbols such as $0F or something to that effect...

You can't use the $ sign in OctaMED, so what is it trying to tell me?

It does appear that you can control the Korg in ways beyond merely pressings keys, but thus far I'm making no sense of any of it. I thought I had the Press and Hold/Press and Release Key, element down, but apparently I'm off on that too.

Can someone present a screen shot of how some of this actually works in OctaMED. All my MOD samples are MIDI free and thus free of these commands.

Thankx!

Also here are some photos...

I have my Synth sitting on wood atm till I can find or construct a better replacement, so things are looking a little hill jack at the moment.

The second photo is the Atari 2600 Pro Sounded with Guitar Jack. The photo shows the Atari, two numeric keypads which can be used as the drums and settings selection buttons, as well as a copy of SynthCart and the MIDI adapter which I was using to plug it into the Amiga.

Lastly we have  a photo of the Atari hooked into the Amiga along with the Korg. On the right there is a lap harp which I am trying to use in conjunction with my cheap mic and the Korg Vocoder. To the right is my piece of shit mixer, which is giving me issues so I still can not record...

Again anyone know any good techniques to clean contacts on these old mixers?

And on that note, I don't really see a practical use for the 2600. I could get by using FM samples instead, so I think my Pro-Sounded 2600 is going on Ebay today.
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: x303 on April 28, 2011, 07:48:06 PM
Quote from: XDelusion;634167
Well, the OctaMED S.S. guide often times tells me to refer to the hard manual which I do not have, so...

....does anyone happen to have it in PDF?

There isn't a pdf (unless someone created on). I have octamed 6 & 7 (SS) which both came on cd, so no 'hard manual'. BTW, the right manual for SS is called Manual and not octamed.guide. :confused:

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Also there are many functions in the guide that I do not understand. Such as when it talks about using HEX values, or when it shows symbols such as $0F or something to that effect...

You can't use the $ sign in OctaMED, so what is it trying to tell me?
Leave the $ sign off ! Just use the value.
It works the same way for samples as for midi, most commands are for samples & midi, some for samples only, some for midi only.
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: XDelusion on April 28, 2011, 07:55:07 PM
I don't recall seeing a file titled "Manual".

Care to upload it for us?
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: x303 on April 28, 2011, 08:11:26 PM
Quote from: XDelusion;634187
I don't recall seeing a file titled "Manual".
It's on the cd, in the 'Soundstudio v1/english' drawer.
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: TheGoose on April 28, 2011, 08:16:34 PM
Cool rig dude! Kinda Zen with the blocks and wood. I can help with the amigaguide manual, pm me.

Quote from: XDelusion;634167
Well, the OctaMED S.S. guide often times tells me to refer to the hard manual which I do not have, so...

....does anyone happen to have it in PDF?

Also there are many functions in the guide that I do not understand. Such as when it talks about using HEX values, or when it shows symbols such as $0F or something to that effect...

You can't use the $ sign in OctaMED, so what is it trying to tell me?

It does appear that you can control the Korg in ways beyond merely pressings keys, but thus far I'm making no sense of any of it. I thought I had the Press and Hold/Press and Release Key, element down, but apparently I'm off on that too.

Can someone present a screen shot of how some of this actually works in OctaMED. All my MOD samples are MIDI free and thus free of these commands.

Thankx!

Also here are some photos...

I have my Synth sitting on wood atm till I can find or construct a better replacement, so things are looking a little hill jack at the moment.

The second photo is the Atari 2600 Pro Sounded with Guitar Jack. The photo shows the Atari, two numeric keypads which can be used as the drums and settings selection buttons, as well as a copy of SynthCart and the MIDI adapter which I was using to plug it into the Amiga.

Lastly we have  a photo of the Atari hooked into the Amiga along with the Korg. On the right there is a lap harp which I am trying to use in conjunction with my cheap mic and the Korg Vocoder. To the right is my piece of shit mixer, which is giving me issues so I still can not record...

Again anyone know any good techniques to clean contacts on these old mixers?

And on that note, I don't really see a practical use for the 2600. I could get by using FM samples instead, so I think my Pro-Sounded 2600 is going on Ebay today.
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: XDelusion on April 28, 2011, 08:16:55 PM
Not all of us own the CD. :)

Though I did find a link to download it. Going to be a long while though, the connection is shitty here.
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: XDelusion on April 28, 2011, 09:52:51 PM
Atari is now listed as for sale:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Atari-2600-Pro-Sounded-MIDI-SynthCart-Key-Pads-/220776318959?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33674b47ef

With this listing I shall be including the Following.

1: Synthcart Cartridge: The Synthcart is an Atari 2600 cartridge that turns your 2600 into a pop music sensation, letting you play music using a pair of Atari's keyboard controllers and can also be controller with the 2600 MIDI controller.

http://www.qotile.net/synth.html


2: Atari MIDI Controller: http://highlyliquid.com/kits/midi2600/


3: Two Kid's Controller Atari Numeric Key Pads.


4: Atari 9v Power Pack.


5: 2 Atari Joystick Extension Cables: For use with MIDI Controller.


6: Instruction Manuals.


7: Video Output adaptor which allows you to bypass the use of a channel selection box. (Note:Video output is really not required to use this, but is an option.)


For more information, please have a look at these videos:

http://youtu.be/zgDyOSDUAx0

http://youtu.be/djfadUJIFmk

http://youtu.be/0BxjCAnUFn4
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: minator on April 29, 2011, 02:10:45 AM
Quote from: XDelusion;634212
Atari is now listed as for sale:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Atari-2600-Pro-Sounded-MIDI-SynthCart-Key-Pads-/220776318959?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33674b47ef



Are you willing to ship to the UK?
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: XDelusion on April 29, 2011, 08:06:05 PM
Of course. Shipping would be a bit more, but I have shipped to there before.
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: minator on April 29, 2011, 10:03:43 PM
Quote from: XDelusion;634435
Of course. Shipping would be a bit more, but I have shipped to there before.


Added to watch list :-)
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: XDelusion on April 29, 2011, 10:37:43 PM
Thank you! :)




Just got back from the musick store. Turns out that I need to buy a new mixer board as the one I'm using (old 80's mixer) does not have gain, which is something I need. I did some recording last night which I might upload (nothing special), but hopefully when I can afford the new Mixer, my output quality will be improved over all.
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: minator on April 30, 2011, 01:37:32 AM
Quote from: XDelusion;634463
Thank you! :)

Must make sure I remember it. If my new* synth arrives I'm likely to be distracted.
*Don't know if new is really the word for a synth not made since the early 80's.

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Just got back from the musick store. Turns out that I need to buy a new mixer board as the one I'm using (old 80's mixer) does not have gain, which is something I need. I did some recording last night which I might upload (nothing special), but hopefully when I can afford the new Mixer, my output quality will be improved over all.



I recorded a track recently.  First time I've ever tried to record anything:

http://www.blachford.info/transfer/Weak1.m4a
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: TheGoose on April 30, 2011, 02:06:38 AM
Quote from: minator;634487
Must make sure I remember it. If my new* synth arrives I'm likely to be distracted.
*Don't know if new is really the word for a synth not made since the early 80's.





I recorded a track recently.  First time I've ever tried to record anything:

http://www.blachford.info/transfer/Weak1.m4a


Sounds pretty good. A missing Cure track :)
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: x303 on April 30, 2011, 01:03:09 PM
Quote from: XDelusion;634463
Just got back from the musick store. Turns out that I need to buy a new mixer board as the one I'm using (old 80's mixer) does not have gain, which is something I need.
If you use the mixer to (only) make music, you don't need gain. Gain is for dj's, who need it for setting the pfl (cue) level.
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: magnetic on May 01, 2011, 01:40:12 AM
x303

umm what are you talking about? Gain is used to boost the channel for whatever purpose.. not just for cue. ( i dont even understand your post)  I have a Vestax pmc05 and use the gains all the time.. especially for boosting levels on old records. (which is prolly what xdelusions wants it for to boost levels)
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: XDelusion on May 01, 2011, 04:27:42 AM
I need a new mixer anyhow, some of my gear is really dated, and yes I could use the gain to resolve a few issues I'm having, besides half my input ports are failing me so I can see this mixer dying all together sometime soon.

Minator: I loved the track! Dark and moody! You should keep at it man!!!

Spihunter: I made it through all the material you uploaded and I am very impressed! Such talent from the Amiga community, everyone!

I believe the 1994 track is my favorite. It brings a lot of things to mind/heart.

So what that an Amiga on the opening drums?
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: x303 on May 01, 2011, 03:19:53 PM
Quote from: magnetic;634606
x303

umm what are you talking about? Gain is used to boost the channel for whatever purpose.. not just for cue.
Well, you could use a dj mixer for boosting tracks, if that's the only thing you're gonna do with it (you could also sample it and use normalize to boost tracks, btw). But a studio mixer, which has gain on the mono channels and -10/+4 switches on the stereo channels to boost thinks up, might be a bit better if doing some more production work. I have both type of mixers and it's just easier to make tracks on a studio mixer.
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: minator on May 01, 2011, 11:45:51 PM
Quote from: XDelusion;634619
I need a new mixer anyhow, some of my gear is really dated, and yes I could use the gain to resolve a few issues I'm having, besides half my input ports are failing me so I can see this mixer dying all together sometime soon.


Funny, with synths, the more dated they are the more expensive they get!

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Minator: I loved the track! Dark and moody! You should keep at it man!!!


Thanks :-)

I plan to, I've just built a home studio...
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: XDelusion on May 02, 2011, 04:49:49 AM
x303: I'm looking more for Studio Gear, the whole DJ scene makes me ill to my stomach. My buddy is a DJ, and while he is very talented and really a great guy, he has given some terrible advice on gear as it all seems to be nothing but machines that make quick easy dance beats, but can't really be used for much else.
As for me, I have no interest in making people dance. If what I put out happens to make a person feel like dancing, that that is purely accidental side effect. ;)
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: x303 on May 02, 2011, 06:30:21 PM
Quote from: XDelusion;634799
x303: I'm looking more for Studio Gear, the whole DJ scene makes me ill to my stomach.
Should you be talking to me, then ? :laughing:

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My buddy is a DJ, and while he is very talented and really a great guy, he has given some terrible advice on gear as it all seems to be nothing but machines that make quick easy dance beats
You should find a good shop in the area, to let you inform about what you really want.

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As for me, I have no interest in making people dance. If what I put out happens to make a person feel like dancing, that that is purely accidental side effect. ;)


Ahhhhhhhhh, I think you want this one: http://www.rolandconnect.com/product.php?p=c-330-da :biglaugh:
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: minator on May 02, 2011, 11:05:12 PM
Quote from: XDelusion;634799
x303: I'm looking more for Studio Gear, the whole DJ scene makes me ill to my stomach. My buddy is a DJ, and while he is very talented and really a great guy, he has given some terrible advice on gear as it all seems to be nothing but machines that make quick easy dance beats, but can't really be used for much else.
As for me, I have no interest in making people dance. If what I put out happens to make a person feel like dancing, that that is purely accidental side effect. ;)

What sort of music do you make?

For mixers I didn't know diddley squat so I asked a guy I know.  He said to go for the simplest mixer as there's less to go wrong.  He also said don't record things in stereo because it's difficult to mix them, so stereo channels aren't much use.  I was advised to to avoid one particular cheap brand beginning with B, in mixers you really get what you pay for and they're cheaper than anyone else.  If you've a limited budget have a look at ebay.

I ended up getting a Mackie mixer with mono channels, no stereo channels and no FX.  It does however have firewire so I can plug it into the computer (I'm using Logic on a Mac, haven't attached the Amiga yet).



BTW About the Atari you're selling, in addition to the MIDI stuff, can it still play games?
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: magnetic on May 02, 2011, 11:15:19 PM
minator

The 2600 should still play games afaik the synthcart is just a plug in cart! You take it out and put in pac man (boy i hate pacman on 2600 lol)

Xdelusion

"i dont want to make anyone dance.." that is so funny.  It sounds like you just want to make music for your own purposes so you certainly wont need a "studio mixer" as staed before. Also, for you I wouldnt recommend a mixer with mono channels at all for your needs.  Stanton makes some nice cheap mixer that look really cool and are affordable. I'd recommend a mixer with not only gains but independent control of hi low and mid levels.. kills switches would be great too as it lets you completely kill the frequences of hi lo mid (but then again its for dance or electro stuff mainly, but has it uses for practical music)
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: XDelusion on May 03, 2011, 03:45:56 AM
x303: No of course we MUST communicate, if everyone was just like me, I'd grow bored as hell. I prefer to have a world full of people with their own unique varieties, peculiarities, and this and that. Once everything and everyone becomes the same, or a mere rehash or something or someone else, well then we might as well just kill our selves hugh? :)

As for that Church organ, that is the bomb! There is a local thift store with an old church organ that I really want to snag, but alas I want to relocate so now is not the best time.

Minator: 2600 will play games, and the audio output will be better. :)

As for my "musick" I'm purely experimental, though I have been known to lay out a few techno-ish tracks, though they are not House Tekno, so my conscious is clear! ;)

But ya, most of my stuff is experimental. I was going to upload a few of my older tracks, but again forgot the damn things. Aside of experimental, I also have worked on some unorthodoxed Hip-Hop beats for my long lost brother as he just so happens to rap, and just so happens to have a background and set of obscure interests much like my own. The only down side is we have found it hard to make the time to put his lyrics together with my tracks, but I can at least upload my side of things.

As for influences, well they are all over the place. I love synth pop, classic 70's/80's industrial/goth. Pink Floyd, The Legendary Pink Dots, Beethoven, 20's - 40's era musick. Musick with that old negro wisdom, chip tunes, classic Country (Johnny Cash, Patsy Cline), Hip-Hop (not rap, not MTV or Radio Hip-Hop, but HIP-HOP the shit with street sensibility and wisdom of the ancients. Umm... there's a lot of influences, and not all of them merely musick related, as I've been influenced by the fact that you can use Musick and Video as a means of artistic expression, to help communicate where words and mere logic fail....it would just be easier for me to upload the stuff.

On top of all this I do dabble with video editing, so I'm not going to release a CD, but a DVD instead which will tie all my tracks together into one long video.

Here's a couple examples of some of my older work video wise:

Beauty is the Enemy (Musick by cEvin Key of Skinny Puppy, and Words by Genesis P. Orridge of Throbbing Gristle and Psychic TV). Video by Me. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJQK6DExtIg

Beautiful World: Music by Devo, video by Me. My first video ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIwnIQT1lOA
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: XDelusion on May 03, 2011, 09:32:48 PM
Grrrrr.... I can't get my old songs uploaded on here because they are all too large. Well it looks like I'm going to have to sign up on some site and upload them there.

Any advice on a free site that does not degrade the quality of your work and is easy to navigate?
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: minator on May 03, 2011, 10:49:45 PM
Quote from: magnetic;634978
minator

The 2600 should still play games afaik the synthcart is just a plug in cart! You take it out and put in pac man (boy i hate pacman on 2600 lol)

Xdelusion

"i dont want to make anyone dance.." that is so funny.  It sounds like you just want to make music for your own purposes so you certainly wont need a "studio mixer" as staed before. Also, for you I wouldnt recommend a mixer with mono channels at all for your needs.  Stanton makes some nice cheap mixer that look really cool and are affordable. I'd recommend a mixer with not only gains but independent control of hi low and mid levels.. kills switches would be great too as it lets you completely kill the frequences of hi lo mid (but then again its for dance or electro stuff mainly, but has it uses for practical music)


I'd say the exact opposite of this.
If you're into dance music you can create the entire thing, mix it and master it all in the computer.  I looked at one music site that was for a dance musician and in the "show us your rig" section there was a whole series of people who have a tiny little keyboard and a computer as their set up.  There's no hardware mixer because it's in the computer.

OTOH If you're recording physical instruments you need something just to plug them into and generally that'll be a mixer.

Anything other than very basic mixers will have EQ, solo, mute, routing etc.
There's nothing "wrong" with having stereo channels but they are limited to being stereo.  I can use 2 mono channels as independent mono channels or I can use 2 mono channels as a stereo pair.  You can of course also record as mono and use effects to create stereo.

The other option is to just record everything onto a DAW (Digital Audio Workstation) and do the mixing in the computer like the dance guys do.  In that case you won't need a hardware mixer.
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: minator on May 03, 2011, 10:58:17 PM
Quote from: XDelusion;635015
Minator: 2600 will play games, and the audio output will be better. :)


I look forward to its arrival :-D


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As for my "musick" I'm purely experimental, though I have been known to lay out a few techno-ish tracks, though they are not House Tekno, so my conscious is clear! ;)

But ya, most of my stuff is experimental. I was going to upload a few of my older tracks, but again forgot the damn things. Aside of experimental, I also have worked on some unorthodoxed Hip-Hop beats for my long lost brother as he just so happens to rap, and just so happens to have a background and set of obscure interests much like my own. The only down side is we have found it hard to make the time to put his lyrics together with my tracks, but I can at least upload my side of things.

As for influences, well they are all over the place. I love synth pop, classic 70's/80's industrial/goth. Pink Floyd, The Legendary Pink Dots, Beethoven, 20's - 40's era musick. Musick with that old negro wisdom, chip tunes, classic Country (Johnny Cash, Patsy Cline), Hip-Hop (not rap, not MTV or Radio Hip-Hop, but HIP-HOP the shit with street sensibility and wisdom of the ancients. Umm... there's a lot of influences, and not all of them merely musick related, as I've been influenced by the fact that you can use Musick and Video as a means of artistic expression, to help communicate where words and mere logic fail....it would just be easier for me to upload the stuff.


I also like a lot of different styles but I like a good melody.  I'm not into hip-hop, rap or indeed many modern styles.  I think music was better before the mid 80's because that's when computer sequencing came in, they had to be able to play their instruments.


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Beauty is the Enemy (Musick by cEvin Key of Skinny Puppy, and Words by Genesis P. Orridge of Throbbing Gristle and Psychic TV). Video by Me. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJQK6DExtIg


I like it, completely bizarre!

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Beautiful World: Music by Devo, video by Me. My first video ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIwnIQT1lOA


Great for a first attempt!  What's the film clip at the end from?


Anyway, I also got a new Korg so I'm off to play with it.
Cost a bit more than $200, but then it is an MS-20  :-D
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: XDelusion on May 03, 2011, 11:11:36 PM
I saw that you won the auction, congrats! I'll try to get that out to you tomorrow. I'll pack in some extras since your an Amiga friend. ;)

I feel about the same about musick, that's why I do not refer to my self as a musician. I just play with sound scapes and nothing more, though I am trying to learn to play Piano and read musick as there is a lot in my head that I've no idea how to make manifest.

I will say though that I admire both classical, real time musick, as well as modern sequenced material. I feel both have their charm and their use. I.E. Have you ever looked into the psychology of sound and color? Subliminals, frequencies, and this and that? Very interesting field... Those short hypnotic loops can be quite effective.

EDIT: Oh and the video clip comes from Monty Python's Meaning of Life movie. :)



DS anyone?

http://remaincalm.org/index.php/ds-music-apps
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: XDelusion on May 04, 2011, 12:40:57 AM
Mmm, this looks like it would come in handy too, or something like it anyhow...

http://infusionsystems.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/179


Of course it would be nice if it happens to work in MorphOS or Amiga OS, but it's very doubtful.
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: XDelusion on May 07, 2011, 10:51:40 PM
minator: Congrats on the new gear, both mine and the korg! And thank you for funding mine!!! ;)
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: minator on May 08, 2011, 02:15:54 AM
Quote from: XDelusion;636414
minator: Congrats on the new gear, both mine and the korg! And thank you for funding mine!!! ;)


You're very welcome :-)
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: x303 on May 13, 2011, 08:28:10 PM
Quote from: XDelusion;636414
minator: Congrats on the new gear, both mine and the korg! And thank you for funding mine!!! ;)
Ah, thought you were gonna get this one: http://soniccircus.com/core/media/media.nl/id.58004/c.316965/.f?h=7b35a7b1db599366e43f :laughing:
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: XDelusion on May 13, 2011, 10:57:29 PM
That is bad ass!!! But I don't deserve such a machine. No talent. :/
Title: Re: My New Hardware for use with OctaMED S.S.
Post by: minator on May 15, 2011, 12:38:30 AM
Quote from: XDelusion;637654
That is bad ass!!! But I don't deserve such a machine. No talent. :/


Oh, don't know.  It's only £12,000.