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Title: Lollypops and chocolate cakes
Post by: Tension on April 05, 2011, 12:12:59 PM
Such a shame what's happened here lately.  Old skool trolling and heavy handed moderation put me off posting a while back.

As it looks like its about to get worse, I think i'll bail out at this point before I get moderated out of existence.

So long, and thanks for all the pancakes!
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Franko on April 05, 2011, 12:16:34 PM
Your kidding aint ya ???

April the 1st is long gone... :)

Hope your kidding anyway, you've gotta be, you've never let moderation no matter how unfair chase you off in the past, so this has to be a wind up... :)
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Kesa on April 05, 2011, 12:16:51 PM
Such a drama queen!

We all know you don't mean it ;)
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Karlos on April 05, 2011, 12:33:58 PM
Quote from: Tension;628379
Such a shame what's happened here lately.  Old skool trolling and heavy handed moderation put me off posting a while back.


Strange, those complaining the loudest seem to be shouting about the absence of moderation *shrug*

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As it looks like its about to get worse, I think i'll bail out at this point before I get moderated out of existence.


The only thing I've ever seen you get in trouble for is an overuse of bad language.

If you are serious, then all I can say is, just take as long as you need. Don't ragequit and burn your bridges like some seem to. Then you can come back any time all this has blown over. Which it will, just like every other time in years gone  by.

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So long, and thanks for all the pancakes!


Well as long as you don't fall for this old chestnut...
(http://images2.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/6870439/Ill-delete-my-posts-Thatll-show-em.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=Success-Kid)
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: jj on April 05, 2011, 12:40:06 PM
Im staying
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Karlos on April 05, 2011, 12:41:06 PM
Quote from: JJ;628384
Im staying


At this rate, there'll only be us left anyway :lol:
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: crawff on April 05, 2011, 12:49:48 PM
I don't think anyone cares anymore, its just a big playground now.

Shame
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Argo on April 05, 2011, 01:18:34 PM
Quote from: Karlos;628385
At this rate, there'll only be us left anyway :lol:


There can be only one!
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e381/galactiboy/kugankillani.gif)
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: jj on April 05, 2011, 01:32:47 PM
Quote from: Argo;628399
There can be only one!
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e381/galactiboy/kugankillani.gif)

 
My work colleagues reckon I look like the Kurgan. Its the shaved head. Bar stewards
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Amiga_Nut on April 05, 2011, 01:36:56 PM
Ah well I look like Vin Diesel myself, shaved heads are great for cutting out bad hair days *wooo*
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: gertsy on April 05, 2011, 01:37:14 PM
You'd think as people age they'd get more mature.
Viva la Amiga!!!!
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: A1260 on April 05, 2011, 01:53:20 PM
Quote from: Karlos;628383
Well as long as you don't fall for this old chestnut...
(http://images2.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/6870439/Ill-delete-my-posts-Thatll-show-em.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=Success-Kid)


:lol: :lol:
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: dannyp1 on April 05, 2011, 10:42:29 PM
For the past year or so I have found myself spending more and more of my online time on EAB.  The moderation was turning me off here.  Now there are a couple of members who have gotten thousands of posts in a relatively short amount of time and most of them seem to be just blabber that you have to find your way through to seek the real info you are looking for.  I have stated before that this site is being taken over by "social butterflies" whose Amiga interests are secondary to their social online life.  I really wish they would spend more time on Facebook or Myspace.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: kickstart on April 05, 2011, 10:48:56 PM
People start to wake up.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Darrin on April 05, 2011, 10:49:21 PM
Yep, time to give
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/darrin01311/corg.jpg)
a rest until C=USA folds and disappears...
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: crawff on April 05, 2011, 10:50:29 PM
im hoping things will just sort themselves out ...soon
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Kesa on April 05, 2011, 10:54:03 PM
Quote from: dannyp1;628654
For the past year or so I have found myself spending more and more of my online time on EAB.  The moderation was turning me off here.  Now there are a couple of members who have gotten thousands of posts in a relatively short amount of time and most of them seem to be just blabber that you have to find your way through to seek the real info you are looking for.  I have stated before that this site is being taken over by "social butterflies" whose Amiga interests are secondary to their social online life.  I really wish they would spend more time on Facebook or Myspace.

Maybe it's not the "new users" who are the problem. Maybe you are out of touch with the modern online world. The world isa changing :)
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Digiman on April 05, 2011, 10:54:15 PM
Quote from: dannyp1;628654
For the past year or so I have found myself spending more and more of my online time on EAB.  The moderation was turning me off here.  Now there are a couple of members who have gotten thousands of posts in a relatively short amount of time and most of them seem to be just blabber that you have to find your way through to seek the real info you are looking for.  I have stated before that this site is being taken over by "social butterflies" whose Amiga interests are secondary to their social online life.  I really wish they would spend more time on Facebook or Myspace.


I can only think of one and he spends more on real Amiga items a month than most of us in a year. Doesn't seem secondary to me.

EAB is always off topic and no more helpful. Although they don't have ex owners urging us ike a loon that shit running emulators must be embraced and is all we deserve  :roflmao:
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: kickstart on April 05, 2011, 10:54:48 PM
Quote from: Darrin;628663
Yep, time to give
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/darrin01311/corg.jpg)
a rest until C=USA folds and disappears...


Dont forget the "great" social life here, most post seems like easy conversation.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Khephren on April 05, 2011, 11:17:47 PM
EAB has less noise, but it has a lot less signal too. you make a query here, and you'll get multipe answers within half an hour. EAB post rate is a lot slower. besides, they are not mutually exclusive. you can be a member of as many amiga sites as you like. if those who have left just waited, things would have calmed down again, this sort of thing has happened multiple times before, and it always gets back to an even keel.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Karlos on April 05, 2011, 11:24:04 PM
Quote from: kickstart;628670
Dont forget the "great" social life here, most post seems like easy conversation.


We love you too :)

Seriously though, the site is for amiga users, not their computers per se. Since amiga users are actually people and have interests that go beyond using their computers, it's normal for them to wish to talk about other things.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: kickstart on April 05, 2011, 11:36:52 PM
Who are "we"? You and some others?
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: jorkany on April 05, 2011, 11:38:07 PM
Quote from: Karlos;628699
We love you too :)

Seriously though, the site is for amiga users, not their computers per se. Since amiga users are actually people and have interests that go beyond using their computers, it's normal for them to wish to talk about other things.


All discussion here should be communicated via 68K assembler subroutines that generate output on an Amiga. It's the only way to be sure.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Digiman on April 05, 2011, 11:40:51 PM
Quote from: jorkany;628710
All discussion here should be communicated via 68K assembler subroutines that generate output on an Amiga. It's the only way to be sure.


KS 1.0 compatible only code for the A1000 diehards like me? :roflmao:
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: save2600 on April 05, 2011, 11:44:52 PM
<------------getting tired of listening to whiny bitches talk about them leaving. Just leave already. Or not.

BTW: Kesa, cut your stupid trolling sig down and Actung_bab, learn how to write already!  :lol:
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Karlos on April 05, 2011, 11:45:35 PM
Quote from: kickstart;628709
Who are "we"? You and some others?


Let's face it, this isn't the first time you've hinted you don't like to see non-amiga specific discussion here - which I have to hold my hands up and admit to partaking in so yes, I guess I mean me. And a few others that act likewise.

Anyway, you come across as a rather unhappy person. Why not put your feet up and tell us all about it?
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: TheBilgeRat on April 05, 2011, 11:46:31 PM
(http://demotivationalpics.com/albums/userpics/normal_demotiv_pic_494586.jpg)
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Karlos on April 05, 2011, 11:47:50 PM
Quote from: jorkany;628710
All discussion here should be communicated via 68K assembler subroutines that generate output on an Amiga. It's the only way to be sure.


Should the message text be procedurally generated (at least in part) for added brownie points? Or at least stored in some packed format that precludes just reading the dc.b lines ;)
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: cv643d on April 05, 2011, 11:48:40 PM
No problem, in 40-50 years there will be no one left here anyways...
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Iggy on April 05, 2011, 11:49:46 PM
Quote from: save2600;628716
<------------getting tired of listening to whiny bitches talk about them leaving. Just leave already. Or not.

BTW: Kesa, cut your stupid trolling sig down and Actung_bab, learn how how to write already!  :lol:

Oh, come on. You know they're not going anywhere. Let 'em stomp their feet and whine some more.

"It's the end of the world, as we know it..."
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Iggy on April 05, 2011, 11:50:38 PM
Quote from: cv643d;628722
No problem, in 40-50 years there will be no one left here anyways...


In forty or fifty years I won't care.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Karlos on April 05, 2011, 11:51:52 PM
Quote from: TheBilgeRat;628718
(http://demotivationalpics.com/albums/userpics/normal_demotiv_pic_494586.jpg)


Needs an outer caption:

"VERBAL CONTRACTION"
You're doing it wrong
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Kesa on April 05, 2011, 11:54:06 PM
I don't come here just to talk about Amigas i also like the social aspect of it too. There's always playing and joking going on and i think that's great. Which brings me to my point, Amiga.org is a community and not just a tech database. The fact people are socialising is a sign of a healthy community.  

I participate in other forums regularly and a couple have really good  communities as well. My favourite other than Amiga.org is Dailyburn.com  which is a lot of fun. That's the way forums should be. Fun :)
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Digiman on April 05, 2011, 11:57:35 PM
Quote from: Kesa;628729
I don't come here just to talk about Amigas i also like the social aspect of it too. There's always playing and joking going on and i think that's great. Which brings me to my point, Amiga.org is a community and not just a tech database. The fact people are socialising is a sign of a healthy community.  

I participate in other forums regularly and a couple have really good  communities as well. My favourite other than Amiga.org is Dailyburn.com  which is a lot of fun. That's the way forums should be. Fun :)


Exactly, not everyone will gel or agree I know but if we can keep it respectful then what's the harm?
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Kesa on April 05, 2011, 11:58:04 PM
Quote from: save2600;628716
<------------getting tired of listening to whiny bitches talk about them leaving. Just leave already. Or not.

BTW: Kesa, cut your stupid trolling sig down and Actung_bab, learn how to write already!  :lol:

What's wrong with my sig? :confused:

You realise by calling my sig stupid you are trolling? :)
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: jorkany on April 05, 2011, 11:58:48 PM
Quote from: Karlos;628721
Should the message text be procedurally generated (at least in part) for added brownie points? Or at least stored in some packed format that precludes just reading the dc.b lines ;)


I'm thinking bitmap encoded, and not just on a single plane.
We've got to be sure after all!
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: TheBilgeRat on April 06, 2011, 12:00:51 AM
Quote from: Karlos;628726
Needs an outer caption:

"VERBAL CONTRACTION"
You're doing it wrong

yeah I saw that :lol:

or perhaps some caveman punctuation "Your (n.)doing, it (is) wrong!"
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Digiman on April 06, 2011, 12:03:57 AM
We should have compos to make our own :)
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Karlos on April 06, 2011, 12:04:52 AM
Quote from: Digiman;628739
We should have compos to make our own :)

We had an amiga-centric (de)motivational poster thread not that long ago.

-edit-

Found it: http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=52896
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: kickstart on April 06, 2011, 12:21:37 AM
Quote from: Karlos;628717
Let's face it, this isn't the first time you've hinted you don't like to see non-amiga specific discussion here - which I have to hold my hands up and admit to partaking in so yes, I guess I mean me. And a few others that act likewise.

Anyway, you come across as a rather unhappy person. Why not put your feet up and tell us all about it?


Im not talking about you like you are on the real life, maybe you are a nice guy or a complete stupid, make the same.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Retrofan on April 06, 2011, 12:36:41 AM
Quote from: Tension;628379
Such a shame what's happened here lately. Old skool trolling and heavy handed moderation put me off posting a while back.
 
As it looks like its about to get worse, I think i'll bail out at this point before I get moderated out of existence.
 
So long, and thanks for all the pancakes!

...and the moderators have banned him???
 
Better I don't say a word then (good or bad).
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Digiman on April 06, 2011, 12:56:06 AM
Quote from: Karlos;628740
We had an amiga-centric (de)motivational poster thread not that long ago.

-edit-

Found it: http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=52896


Added one :roflmao: tomorrow is the turn of Tron :)
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: koaftder on April 06, 2011, 12:59:45 AM
Quote from: Retrofan;628744
...and the moderators have banned him???
 
Better I don't say a word then (good or bad).


Users with orange user names have the ability to change the text underneath their names, and some have written "banned" in that spot. They haven't been banned.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: smerf on April 06, 2011, 01:12:23 AM
Hi

@DannyP1

Whats EAB?

smerf
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: smerf on April 06, 2011, 01:19:54 AM
Hi,

@Karlos,

Well you finally did it, I give up

Such a shame what's happened here lately. Old skool trolling and heavy handed moderation put me off posting a while back.

As it looks like its about to get worse, I think i'll bail out at this point before I get moderated out of existence.

So long, and thanks for all the pancakes!

You finally ran me off

smerf
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: adz on April 06, 2011, 01:55:33 AM
I don't see what exactly has changed around this place, it's always been chock full of whingers. If people actually moved away from relying on the home page for new posts, they'd realise that people are still asking questions about Amiga problems and what not and actually getting answers. Sadly there seems to be awful lot of thread hijacking lately, but again, this is nothing new, only now it's people bitching about CUSA instead of the whole Red vs. Blue thing. Yes, it's fun to hijack a thread every now and then, it alleviates monotony of this place, but FFS it is getting beyond a joke, it seems like some people just like the look of their own ramblings. Unfortunately, for the Amiga community as a whole, it appears that a good percentage of its members are so stuck in the past that even their mentality has failed to mature. Why people can't embrace new ideas and community spirit around these parts it well beyond my comprehension.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: redrumloa on April 06, 2011, 02:26:25 AM
Quote from: Darrin;628663
Yep, time to give
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/darrin01311/corg.jpg)
a rest until C=USA folds and disappears...

Darrin you should really give it a rest. What happened to you??? I mean, seriously??
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: redrumloa on April 06, 2011, 02:33:27 AM
Quote from: adz;628765
I don't see what exactly has changed around this place, it's always been chock full of whingers.

The site always attempted to be lax in moderation to allow openness and tolerance of all viewpoints. What happened is a couple of soft trolls hell bent on creating mayhem. These soft trolls played victim and actually got a small group of users fell for the act and became fanboys of the trolls.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Kesa on April 06, 2011, 02:35:32 AM
What happened to Darrin? I can't believe you even asked that, it's in the banner you quoted! :roflmao:

What's has happened to you? I sort of noticed you changed colour? :confused:

Quote from: redrumloa;628774
The site always attempted to be lax in  moderation to allow openness and tolerance of all viewpoints. What  happened is a couple of soft trolls hell bent on creating mayhem. These  soft trolls played victim and actually got a small group of users fell  for the act and became fanboys of the trolls.

Spot on. 3 or 4 idiots have dragged the entire community into a civil war. If only they kept it all in PM's :(
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: redrumloa on April 06, 2011, 02:46:03 AM
Quote from: Kesa;628776
What happened to Darrin? I can't believe you even asked that, it's in the banner you quoted! :roflmao:

So you are not interested in a product and Darrin is not interested in a product so god help anyone who is not uber-negative? I hope for the sake of pimple faced teenagers in your area that you do not dislike McDonalds.


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What's has happened to you? I sort of noticed you changed colour? :confused:

Yes I did, but you are 9 years too new to know the history. I was an AmigaOne/OS4 fanboy from ~2000-2002 defending it with religious fervor.  When I opened my mind and bought a Pegasos I (with cash) for MorphOS in 2003 I was blasted as a traitor. I was told that I was a Bill Buck lapdog and a Genesi employee.

Gee, funny how 2003 is repeating itself in a worse way. I haven't even bought a product!:rolleyes:
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Darrin on April 06, 2011, 03:44:32 AM
Quote from: redrumloa;628771
Darrin you should really give it a rest. What happened to you??? I mean, seriously??


Jim, I've been wondering the same thing about you, seriously.  I'd still trust you with my wallet, but there are some severe double-standards here at the moment.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Darrin on April 06, 2011, 03:49:39 AM
Quote from: redrumloa;628778
So you are not interested in a product and Darrin is not interested in a product so god help anyone who is not uber-negative? I hope for the sake of pimple faced teenagers in your area that you do not dislike McDonalds.


To quote Michelle from 'Allo, Allo', listen carefully, I will say this only once (mind you, it sounds sexier with her fake-French accent):

It isn't that I'm not interested in the product.  They could make a zillion different Commodore items and I would purchase the ones that would appeal to me.  It is purely the bastardiszing of the Amiga name which is still an active product (even if it is to a minority) by hijacking the name and putting it on totally un-related products.  Add to that the rather nasty attitude of Barry and the spamming of the site with multiple threads when a single one constantly being updated would be enough...

Commodore always made diverse products, be it calculators or various genres of computers.  This isn't about that.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: redrumloa on April 06, 2011, 03:53:54 AM
Quote from: Darrin;628796
Jim, I've been wondering the same thing about you, seriously.  I'd still trust you with my wallet, but there are some severe double-standards here at the moment.

Please tell me what double-standard I am engaging in?
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Darrin on April 06, 2011, 03:55:26 AM
Quote from: redrumloa;628800
Please tell me what double-standard I am engaging in?


Well we have Franko banned for threading behaviour and yet Barry can issue a "tell me who you are and I'll kick your ass" statement and he goes unmoderated.

Care to ban Barry for life too?
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: redrumloa on April 06, 2011, 04:18:16 AM
Quote from: Darrin;628797
It is purely the bastardiszing of the Amiga name which is still an active product (even if it is to a minority)

I guess you mean OS4? I have not seen any attempt by CUSA to shut down Hyperion/Acube/A-Eon.

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by hijacking the name and putting it on totally un-related products.
Unrelated? The C64x is a dead ringer visually for a C64 and AFAIK will eventually come with a custom distro that includes compatibility layer. Commodore 8bit forums are generally mildly positive or apathetic

The plans for the Amiga is not even finalized or at least not publicized. It is my understand that at the very least a comparability will be added to the distro.

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Add to that the rather nasty attitude of Barry
You know that I was pretty harsh on CUSA initially. Some of it was valid IMO, they made some misteps. Barry admitted to me he made some missteps. But there was also slander/libel. Looking back the crap thrown at him was extreme. How would you react to be called a "con artist" or "scammer"? I can relate, I have been called the same things.

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and the spamming of the site with multiple threads when a single one constantly being updated would be enough...
I don't think Barry ever created a thread.

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Commodore always made diverse products, be it calculators or various genres of computers.  This isn't about that.
So why feel so threatened? You have implied some pretty harsh things Darrin and you were comfortable with the libel being thrown at me. I really don't get it.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: adz on April 06, 2011, 04:49:17 AM
Quote from: Darrin;628802
Well we have Franko banned...


Since when? I saw the "BANNED FOR LIFE" but just assumed that was him messing about again...
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: redrumloa on April 06, 2011, 04:51:52 AM
Quote from: Darrin;628802
Well we have Franko banned for threading behaviour  

I did not ban Franko, I gave him 2 infractions for continuous personal attacks and slander. If Franko got banned, someone else did it.

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Care to ban Barry for life too?

You will have to ask someone else to help you with that. I have never handed down a permanent ban and couldn't even try if I wanted to.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: redrumloa on April 06, 2011, 04:53:36 AM
Quote from: adz;628833
Since when? I saw the "BANNED FOR LIFE" but just assumed that was him messing about again...

Some people get played like a fiddle.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Darrin on April 06, 2011, 04:56:36 AM
Quote from: redrumloa;628816
I guess you mean OS4? I have not seen any attempt by CUSA to shut down Hyperion/Acube/A-Eon.


OS4 and classic hardware that is still being produced.  Not to mention projects that have true Amiga relevance such as the FPGA Arcade and Natami.

Sure CUSA haven't tried to shut them donw, but they did (and still are) attempting to confuse the market and undermine the products.  Even a blind man couldn't miss that.

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Unrelated? The C64x is a dead ringer visually for a C64 and AFAIK will eventually come with a custom distro that includes compatibility layer. Commodore 8bit forums are generally mildly positive or apathetic


I've nothing against the C64x apart from it being unfinished and that god-awful keyboard.

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The plans for the Amiga is not even finalized or at least not publicized. It is my understand that at the very least a comparability will be added to the distro.


Time for Barry to wake up and drop the "Amiga" name from products that are not "Amiga" then.

I can't understand why he just didn't market Commodore PCs with a general emulation package to cover previous Commodore machines and leave it at that.  Calling these machines "Amiga" was the idea of a fuckwit and designed to provoke a response.  Well, he got it and now he's throwing tantrums in the corner because he can't buy everyone.

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You know that I was pretty harsh on CUSA initially. Some of it was valid IMO, they made some misteps. Barry admitted to me he made some missteps. But there was also slander/libel. Looking back the crap thrown at him was extreme. How would you react to be called a "con artist" or "scammer"? I can relate, I have been called the same things.


I'd like to say that he could learn from his mistakes and that he wants to do good, but I get the distinct feeling that he was just blowing smoke up your ass and telling you what you wanted to hear.  He's most likely manipulating you because if he really did believe he had made mistakes then he would be on here issuing an apology and clearly stating his new business goals instead of issue threats he can't deliver.

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I don't think Barry ever created a thread.


Generals don't physically fight wars, they just order their troops to do it from the comfort of their armchairs.

Regardless of whether one of Barry's lackies started a thread or not, why are they not just merged as many forums tend to do with multiple threads on the same subject matter?

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So why feel so threatened? You have implied some pretty harsh things Darrin and you were comfortable with the libel being thrown at me. I really don't get it.


Threatened?  Disgusted is the word you should be using.  I pride myself on my ethics and character.  When I see something like this happening under my nose then I feel the need to speak up, even if it is uncomfortable for those involved.  What's worse, I cannot be bought off.

I see you tactically ignored my "banning" comment.  Actions speak a thousand words...
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Darrin on April 06, 2011, 04:58:50 AM
Quote from: redrumloa;628835
I did not ban Franko, I gave him 2 infractions for continuous personal attacks and slander. If Franko got banned, someone else did it.

You will have to ask someone else to help you with that. I have never handed down a permanent ban and couldn't even try if I wanted to.


Oh bugger, yes you did!  Sorry.

Well I'm glad it wasn't you and I apologise for thinking it was so.

I still think he was being manipulated and set up for it and WHOEVER it was needs to look at the other camp too.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Darrin on April 06, 2011, 04:59:27 AM
Quote from: redrumloa;628836
Some people get played like a fiddle.


Yeah, and some people are happy to hold up the sheet music...  :(
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: adz on April 06, 2011, 05:05:36 AM
Quote from: Darrin;628844
Yeah, and some people are happy to hold up the sheet music...  :(


Now, the world don't move to the beat of just one drum... :lol:
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Argo on April 06, 2011, 05:14:12 AM
Quote from: adz;628833
Since when? I saw the "BANNED FOR LIFE" but just assumed that was him messing about again...


He's not banned. I just checked. Actually, our permanent banned list is quite short. Last one was yesterday, a automated spambot account. Before that it goes to last May then it gets really old.
He's just joined a few others I've seen that have changed their member title to Banned.  
If Franko would stay out of the CUSA topics and not start any on them. He'd be fine. He has a whole website of his own to rant on, not to mention the rest of the Internet.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Retro_71 on April 06, 2011, 05:19:38 AM
I really didn't want to post anymore about CUSA but its getting really boring since when do we give ad space and front pages news on C64 products (right now i don't give a flying F*** if it an emu or real) on an Amiga site.
THEY DON"T HAVE ANYTHING AMIGA RELATED IF AND WHEN THEY DO THEN THEY CAN BE ON THE FRONT PAGES (personal feeling is i don't like them and have no use for any of their sub par expensive crap).
All i see from this CUSA mob is headaches it gone beyond a joke any more. Can you please make a CUSA form and stick it there? and make sure that this so called "news worthing" crap is kept off the front page.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: adz on April 06, 2011, 05:24:07 AM
Quote from: Argo;628852
He's not banned. I just checked. Actually, our permanent banned list is quite short. Last one was yesterday, a automated spambot account. Before that it goes to last May then it gets really old.
He's just joined a few others I've seen that have changed their member title to Banned.  
If Franko would stay out of the CUSA topics and not start any on them. He'd be fine. He has a whole website of his own to rant on, not to mention the rest of the Internet.


Meh, thought so...
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Darrin on April 06, 2011, 05:37:30 AM
Quote from: Argo;628852
He's not banned. I just checked. Actually, our permanent banned list is quite short. Last one was yesterday, a automated spambot account. Before that it goes to last May then it gets really old.
He's just joined a few others I've seen that have changed their member title to Banned.  
If Franko would stay out of the CUSA topics and not start any on them. He'd be fine. He has a whole website of his own to rant on, not to mention the rest of the Internet.


Dammit!

Well, at least we all have next year's April Fool Joke:  We'll all change our titles to Banned and go and post on Amigaworld.net for 12 hours.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Iggy on April 06, 2011, 05:39:52 AM
Quote from: Darrin;628867
Dammit!

Well, at least we all have next year's April Fool Joke:  We'll all change our titles to Banned and go and post on Amigaworld.net for 12 hours.

And all posts shall not be Amiga related. It's on!
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Kesa on April 06, 2011, 06:56:19 AM
Will people please stop changing avatars? It's annoying!
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: kd7ota on April 06, 2011, 07:00:47 AM
Quote from: Kesa;628905
Will people please stop changing avatars? It's annoying!


Mine was blank, but figured I would upload a new one. :)
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Darrin on April 06, 2011, 07:04:24 AM
Quote from: kd7ota;628909
Mine was blank, but figured I would upload a new one. :)


Oooh!  Spot the difference.  :D
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: actung_bab on April 06, 2011, 07:06:39 AM
Quote from: save2600;628716
<------------getting tired of listening to whiny bitches talk about them leaving. Just leave already. Or not.

BTW: Kesa, cut your stupid trolling sig down and Actung_bab, learn how to write already!  :lol:

least i say someting insteed just going on about in serious mono tone about same old crap
day in day out

and by the way l spelt actungbaby just way its spelt on the u2 album because l happen
to be a fan am not german

l cant see anything wrong with he site its go alot more intresting latley

I whould keep my thoughts to my self but because u keep going on about me
and making it personal

I dont really care u dont know me your just some narrow minded cynical type

And while at keep thoughts to yourself about my pictures that was my son and none ur biz
And picture of my little cat that was run down killed week ago ya insenstive explitive
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: kd7ota on April 06, 2011, 07:31:24 AM
Quote from: Darrin;628913
Oooh!  Spot the difference.  :D


Changed again. lol :) No difference now. ;)
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Darrin on April 06, 2011, 07:42:05 AM
Quote from: kd7ota;628924
Changed again. lol :) No difference now. ;)


Perhap Dammy would like one and he can put a C= on the hat.  :)
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: CaptChaos on April 06, 2011, 07:46:56 AM
Other OS should have been moved to Coffee house like I suggested months ago. People told me to just ignore the Other OS posts, so I did, now this place lays in ruins...


Enjoy. :)
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Kesa on April 06, 2011, 07:49:19 AM
Why has Franko been banned. Again... :confused:

He cracks me up he really does. Can't that man keep out of trouble for 2 minutes?  :roflmao:
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: itix on April 06, 2011, 07:59:23 AM
Quote from: Tension;628379
Such a shame what's happened here lately.  Old skool trolling and heavy handed moderation put me off posting a while back.

As it looks like its about to get worse, I think i'll bail out at this point before I get moderated out of existence.

So long, and thanks for all the pancakes!


Bye!
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Franko on April 06, 2011, 08:31:58 AM
@ Argo

Well that ban didn't last long did it... about 3 hours... WTF... :D
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: CaptChaos on April 06, 2011, 09:40:03 AM
http://hol.abime.net/622/screenshot
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: whabang on April 06, 2011, 09:45:48 AM
What's up with all this drama lately? It's almost like when BB was an active poster. : popcorn:
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Kesa on April 06, 2011, 09:59:14 AM
Quote from: whabang;628949
What's up with all this drama lately? It's almost like when BB was an active poster. : popcorn:

Who's BB?
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: whabang on April 06, 2011, 10:28:47 AM
Bill Buck
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: adz on April 06, 2011, 10:57:59 AM
Quote from: whabang;628958
Bill Buck


Or the Billsy saga, that caused bucket loads of drama and many deleted posts/threads :lol:
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Kesa on April 06, 2011, 11:14:55 AM
Tell me more... :)
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: whabang on April 06, 2011, 11:21:04 AM
Most of it's in the archive, just google for it and you'll find it. The AO community has endured worse than this. I doubt the rage of a few newcomers will change that. :)
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: gertsy on April 06, 2011, 11:53:07 AM
Forum = Views. Disagree with them, fine.  But don't try to change someone's view or communicate outside the forum guidelines.

Chill, relax and have fun, potentially at Kesa's expense. (within the guidelines of course)

PS: how come I remember BB if I only joined in 2006...?
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: dannyp1 on April 06, 2011, 12:25:32 PM
EAB = English Amiga Board.  There are several VERY knowledgable people who hang out there.  They are not all uptight about links to other sites, they have their Zone, that is where the BoingBag 3 and 4 projects communicate because amiga.org won't let them.  There is probably more "game" related things than I prefer but I just avoid those threads.  Here on amiga.org the "goofballs" leave nonsense posts on all threads.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: jj on April 06, 2011, 12:27:59 PM
I often read EAB rarely post, but yes it is a good site.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: jkirk on April 06, 2011, 01:11:22 PM
Quote from: adz;628968
Or the Billsy saga, that caused bucket loads of drama and many deleted posts/threads :lol:


ah memories lol
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: save2600 on April 06, 2011, 04:45:03 PM
Quote from: actung_bab;628916
And picture of my little cat that was run down killed week ago ya insenstive explitive
Sorry to hear about your cat. That's awful! Didn't know that's what was in your avatar, seriously. Was really just poking fun at your "style" of writing. Apologies if you're dyslexic or have some other impediment that can't be helped. I have two friends that are dyslexic and one is so bad off, he literally cannot read/write an e-mail even. Sure loves to talk on the phone though!  :lol:

BTW: Kesa... the 's' in save2600 isn't supposed to be capitalized.  :hammer:
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: _ThEcRoW on April 06, 2011, 05:16:04 PM
@Darrin
"Time for Barry to wake up and drop the "Amiga" name from products that are not "Amiga" then."

The same could be for Hyperion, as they had nothing to do with the ariginal Amiga team lead by Jay Miner.
What are you trying to demonstrate. Hyperion got a license as well as cusa to use the name.
Or are you telling me that the renamed terons were really amigas because the AmigaOne sticker on them?.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Franko on April 06, 2011, 05:36:41 PM
Quote from: _ThEcRoW;629102
@Darrin
"Time for Barry to wake up and drop the "Amiga" name from products that are not "Amiga" then."

The same could be for Hyperion, as they had nothing to do with the ariginal Amiga team lead by Jay Miner.
What are you trying to demonstrate. Hyperion got a license as well as cusa to use the name.
Or are you telling me that the renamed terons were really amigas because the AmigaOne sticker on them?.


At least (and I don't even like them) the Hyperion stuff had a wee bit (just a wee bit) more in common with real Amiga stuff that the overpriced tat CUSA is trying to sell and tell folks to like it or lump it cos "they are Commodore" now... :(

Or don't you understand when your being led up the garden path... ;)
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: rvo_nl on April 06, 2011, 05:38:18 PM
Personally I cant see the problem. the stuff I dont want to read, I dont read. Every time I need help, people are friendly and doin their best. Its the same on every forum really. Or, life in general. Its impossible to get along with just everybody. Quite a shame people are leaving because of that.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Digiman on April 06, 2011, 06:00:34 PM
Quote from: _ThEcRoW;629102
@Darrin
"Time for Barry to wake up and drop the "Amiga" name from products that are not "Amiga" then."

The same could be for Hyperion, as they had nothing to do with the ariginal Amiga team lead by Jay Miner.
What are you trying to demonstrate. Hyperion got a license as well as cusa to use the name.
Or are you telling me that the renamed terons were really amigas because the AmigaOne sticker on them?.

Original A1000/OCS chipset designers had bugger all useful input into....

500,600,1200,1500,2000,3000,4000,CDTV,CD32

but they all run Amiga game disks.

OS4/MOS/AROS natively run Amiga applications same as real Amigas with 24bit video cards.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: redrumloa on April 06, 2011, 06:57:43 PM
Quote from: _ThEcRoW;629102
@Darrin
"Time for Barry to wake up and drop the "Amiga" name from products that are not "Amiga" then."

The same could be for Hyperion, as they had nothing to do with the ariginal Amiga team lead by Jay Miner.
What are you trying to demonstrate. Hyperion got a license as well as cusa to use the name.
Or are you telling me that the renamed terons were really amigas because the AmigaOne sticker on them?.

I agree with you but with one exception. Hyperion does not have a license for "Amiga", only "AmigaOne" and "AmigaOS".
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Duce on April 06, 2011, 07:11:03 PM
Hyperion is not selling "Amiga's".  I bought OS 4.1 off them, mobo from ACube. I see no mention on Hyperion's site of them claiming otherwise, or am I missing something?
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Iggy on April 06, 2011, 07:18:47 PM
Quote from: Duce;629185
Hyperion is not selling "Amiga's".  I bought OS 4.1 off them, mobo from ACube. I see no mention on Hyperion's site of them claiming otherwise, or am I missing something?

The X1000 is considered to be an AmigaOne. Acube's deal predates the Ainc/Hyperion settlement (although I imagine they could get the right to use that name from Hyperion as well).
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Fats on April 06, 2011, 07:50:03 PM
Quote from: whabang;628949
What's up with all this drama lately? It's almost like when BB was an active poster. : popcorn:


Yeah, the few post of Barry here with the 'we are the saviour of the world' tone reminded me of BBRV.

greets,
Staf.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: B00tDisk on April 06, 2011, 08:19:24 PM
Killfile Franko, ignore CUSA threads.  The site is then back to whatever you want it to be.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: drHirudo on April 06, 2011, 08:26:01 PM
Quote from: Tension;628379
Such a shame what's happened here lately.  Old skool trolling and heavy handed moderation put me off posting a while back.

As it looks like its about to get worse, I think i'll bail out at this point before I get moderated out of existence.

So long, and thanks for all the pancakes!


Almost all the Amiga forums are dumps in the last months. Including Amiga.org. There is only one forum where still the old Amiga spirit is present and it is called EAB. Of course it will get worse here. All the so called Amigans here are now Windows, MacOS, iPhone, Android, you name it fans, but not Amiga enthusiasts. At least one can hope they will not ruin the English Amiga Board.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Karlos on April 06, 2011, 08:30:44 PM
Quote from: drHirudo;629229
All the so called Amigans here are now Windows, MacOS, iPhone, Android, you name it fans, but not Amiga enthusiasts. At least one can hope they will not ruin the English Amiga Board.


:griping:

Hey, I resent that. My main A1200 is used almost every evening, particularly at present. Even the A1. Just because I happen to have an android phone and a Linux based PC doesn't preclude me from being an Amiga enthusiast. And the same is doubtless true of most people here.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: AmigaFreak on April 06, 2011, 08:38:12 PM
Quote from: Karlos;629231
:griping:

Hey, I resent that. My main A1200 is used almost every evening, particularly at present. Even the A1. Just because I happen to have an android phone and a Linux based PC doesn't preclude me from being an Amiga enthusiast. And the same is doubtless true of most people here.


I agree... I have been using Amigas since 1989, just because some of us use Linux or whatever too does not mean we are not Amiga fans just as much as the next person here.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Iggy on April 06, 2011, 08:40:49 PM
Quote from: AmigaFreak;629236
I agree... I have been using Amigas since 1989, just because some of us use Linux or whatever too does not mean we are not Amiga fans just as much as the next person here.

I haven't used an Amiga in several years, and still consider myself a fan.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Franko on April 06, 2011, 08:44:03 PM
Quote from: drHirudo;629229
Almost all the Amiga forums are dumps in the last months. Including Amiga.org. There is only one forum where still the old Amiga spirit is present and it is called EAB. Of course it will get worse here. All the so called Amigans here are now Windows, MacOS, iPhone, Android, you name it fans, but not Amiga enthusiasts. At least one can hope they will not ruin the English Amiga Board.


Not me mate 25 years of using a real Amiga each and every day... :)
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: crawff on April 06, 2011, 08:44:25 PM
@drHirudo

Sad but so true...Amiga.org is in serious decline.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: drHirudo on April 06, 2011, 08:45:37 PM
Quote from: Iggy;629238
I haven't used an Amiga in several years, and still consider myself a fan.


As I said for Amiga fans Amiga.org is not the best forum on the Internet. Sad but true. Especially when I read the forums of ex administrator who claims to had cured his Peter Pan syndrome and similar garbage.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Iggy on April 06, 2011, 08:48:44 PM
Quote from: drHirudo;629245
As I said for Amiga fans Amiga.org is not the best forum on the Internet. Sad but true. Especially when I read the forums of ex administrator who claims to had cured his Peter Pan syndrome and similar garbage.


Say Doc, if you're an Amiga fan and this is not the best forum on the internet for Amiga fans, why are you here.
And what's with the jab at Redrumloa?
"Garbage"? Your post.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: crawff on April 06, 2011, 08:50:17 PM
What is more worrying is nobody actually gives a sh$t
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: redrumloa on April 06, 2011, 08:50:21 PM
Quote from: drHirudo;629245
Especially when I read the forums of ex administrator who claims to had cured his Peter Pan syndrome and similar garbage.


That was a GREAT comment and very appropriate of (a small number of) certain trolls and other degenerates among us.

Having a hobby is not a problem, it can be great fun. Having a hobby you have great passion for is not a problem. Treating a hobby like it is fundamentalist religion and going on jihad against anyone who does not share your narrow view is NOT healthy and probably indicative of an undiagnosed mental illness.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: redrumloa on April 06, 2011, 08:51:52 PM
Quote from: Iggy;629249
Say Doc, if you're an Amiga fan and this is not the best forum on the internet for Amiga fans, why are you here.
And what's with the jab at Redrumloa?
"Garbage"? Your post.

Actually he is referring to a post by Wayne, but otherwise you are spot on.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Iggy on April 06, 2011, 09:19:13 PM
Quote from: redrumloa;629254
Actually he is referring to a post by Wayne, but otherwise you are spot on.

Wayne's just free to speak his mind now.
Fundamentally, I agree with almost everything he's said recently.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: drHirudo on April 06, 2011, 09:43:39 PM
Quote from: Iggy;629249
Say Doc, if you're an Amiga fan and this is not the best forum on the internet for Amiga fans, why are you here.


You see me here?
I think you are mistaking me with someone else, because for sure I am not here 99% of the time.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Iggy on April 06, 2011, 10:59:01 PM
Quote from: drHirudo;629288
You see me here?
I think you are mistaking me with someone else, because for sure I am not here 99% of the time.

:python:
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Fester on April 06, 2011, 11:52:52 PM
Quote from: Darrin;628802
Well we have Franko banned for threading behaviour and yet Barry can issue a "tell me who you are and I'll kick your ass" statement and he goes unmoderated.

Care to ban Barry for life too?


Franko's banned?!?! I'm still laughing over his tickling sticks.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Iggy on April 06, 2011, 11:59:31 PM
Fester=To rot.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: redrumloa on April 07, 2011, 12:13:56 AM
Quote from: Fester;629320
Franko's banned?!?! I'm still laughing over his tickling sticks.

No, Franko pretended to be banned for 3 hours last night and a couple of people fell for it.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Fester on April 07, 2011, 12:14:49 AM
Quote from: Iggy;629323
Fester=To rot.


You do that.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: cecilia on April 07, 2011, 12:14:51 AM
Quote from: drHirudo;629229
................ All the so called Amigans here are now Windows, MacOS, iPhone, Android, you name it fans, but not Amiga enthusiasts. At least one can hope they will not ruin the English Amiga Board.

am I the ONLY one that actually learned something from using an Amiga (my First Computer) and that this knowledge translated into how I use Every single other device I have ever used since????

I honestly don't understand this attitude. (meaning that a person is not a true Amiga user unless his finger are actively on an Amiga)

Frim my Amiga I learned how to be frugal using my programs (started out with bare bones A2000, booting from floppy with the smallest amount of memory you could get at the time. ) I still learned how to use DPaint with that set up.

A few years later when I moved to LA and was looking for work at an animation house they "tested" me on their proprietary paint program.
It was a sad little affair where you had to exit out of Every tool to Enter another tool. and you could only use ONE tool at a time. recall DPaint let you use several tools at once. I picked this up in literally seconds because it was WAAAAAY easier to figure out than DPaint.
The person testing me was absolutely astounded at my prowess - I kid you not.

I wasn't trying to show off. Amiga just taught me very important techniques in figuring out how software worked and because it was WAY ahead of it's time made ME ahead of my time.

This gave me an edge that others did not have.

laugh all you wish, but I am an Amiga Snob for a really good reason. I carry Amiga with me in my brain even if I have not touched my old Amiga 2000 is a long time. It exists where it counts. And continues to inform my work no matter what device I use.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: redrumloa on April 07, 2011, 12:19:27 AM
Quote from: cecilia;629331
am I the ONLY one that actually learned something from using an Amiga (my First Computer) and that this knowledge translated into how I use Every single other device I have ever used since????

I honestly don't understand this attitude. (meaning that a person is not a true Amiga user unless his finger are actively on an Amiga)

Frim my Amiga I learned how to be frugal using my programs (started out with bare bones A2000, booting from floppy with the smallest amount of memory you could get at the time. ) I still learned how to use DPaint with that set up.

A few years later when I moved to LA and was looking for work at an animation house they "tested" me on their proprietary paint program.
It was a sad little affair where you had to exit out of Every tool to Enter another tool. and you could only use ONE tool at a time. recall DPaint let you use several tools at once. I picked this up in literally seconds because it was WAAAAAY easier to figure out than DPaint.
The person testing me was absolutely astounded at my prowess - I kid you not.

I wasn't trying to show off. Amiga just taught me very important techniques in figuring out how software worked and because it was WAY ahead of it's time made ME ahead of my time.

This gave me an edge that others did not have.

laugh all you wish, but I am an Amiga Snob for a really good reason. I carry Amiga with me in my brain even if I have not touched my old Amiga 2000 is a long time. It exists where it counts. And continues to inform my work no matter what device I use.

+1
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Karlos on April 07, 2011, 12:20:29 AM
Quote from: redrumloa;629329
No, Franko pretended to be banned for 3 hours last night and a couple of people fell for it.


He's not the only person that has done it. Unfortunately for them, there's a bit more to faking being banned than changing your user title and not logging in for a few hours.
Title: Re: Lollypops and chocolate cakes
Post by: EDanaII on April 07, 2011, 01:02:47 AM
@ Cecila

Nope, you're not the only one. I learned a number of things from my Amiga, some I use for work and some I use for personal use. For example, on my Windows boxes, I always partition my drives thus: C: for System, W: for Work: and P: for Programs. This particular method of configuring my drives has saved my bacon a number of times. At work, on the occasions that I need to use graphics, techniques I learned on my Amiga are often applied. It was a smartly designed machine used by some very smart people. I've never forgotten that.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: adz on April 07, 2011, 01:19:46 AM
Quote from: cecilia;629331
am I the ONLY one that actually learned something from using an Amiga (my First Computer) and that this knowledge translated into how I use Every single other device I have ever used since????

I honestly don't understand this attitude. (meaning that a person is not a true Amiga user unless his finger are actively on an Amiga)

Frim my Amiga I learned how to be frugal using my programs (started out with bare bones A2000, booting from floppy with the smallest amount of memory you could get at the time. ) I still learned how to use DPaint with that set up.

A few years later when I moved to LA and was looking for work at an animation house they "tested" me on their proprietary paint program.
It was a sad little affair where you had to exit out of Every tool to Enter another tool. and you could only use ONE tool at a time. recall DPaint let you use several tools at once. I picked this up in literally seconds because it was WAAAAAY easier to figure out than DPaint.
The person testing me was absolutely astounded at my prowess - I kid you not.

I wasn't trying to show off. Amiga just taught me very important techniques in figuring out how software worked and because it was WAY ahead of it's time made ME ahead of my time.

This gave me an edge that others did not have.

laugh all you wish, but I am an Amiga Snob for a really good reason. I carry Amiga with me in my brain even if I have not touched my old Amiga 2000 is a long time. It exists where it counts. And continues to inform my work no matter what device I use.


+1

One particularly important thing my Amiga's and C64's taught me was patience ;)
Title: Re: Lollypops and chocolate cakes
Post by: cecilia on April 07, 2011, 03:54:27 AM
Quote from: EDanaII;629352
@ Cecila

Nope, you're not the only one. I learned a number of things from my Amiga, some I use for work and some I use for personal use. For example, on my Windows boxes, I always partition my drives thus: C: for System, W: for Work: and P: for Programs. This particular method of configuring my drives has saved my bacon a number of times. At work, on the occasions that I need to use graphics, techniques I learned on my Amiga are often applied. It was a smartly designed machine used by some very smart people. I've never forgotten that.


Thank the standing stones I'm not the only one!  :)

I have done similar organizing on my windows systems.

At this point because I spend 90% of my time in Ubuntu I haven't separated my new Windows laptop, but then I also use a portable drive to backup all my sensitive data. (That and data DVD's).

All that is from learning to back up and backup again that came from my Amiga experiences (I never lost data in all these years). In fact the whole notion of having complete control over MY system is very very Amiga-like. The idea that I CAN know what is going on is completely from my Amiga days. Most windows users have no flipping idea how their computer files are arranged. When I look at other people's HD it's nothing but chaos.

yuk!
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: cecilia on April 07, 2011, 03:59:22 AM
Quote from: adz;629365
+1

One particularly important thing my Amiga's and C64's taught me was patience ;)

Another Excellent point!.
same here.

patience and learning how to LOOK at what is actually happening on one's computer screen. I found myself tutoring people over the years - and for a short time even teaching computer Animation 101 at Cal Arts (using their Amigas which, I am sorry to say they have since gotten rid of).

Many new computer users just don't LOOK and remain confused. I know this sounds simple, but I have seen it for myself. People get this blank look on their faces. Usually a good Hit to the back of their head starts the marbles moving about  

:roflmao:
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: drHirudo on April 07, 2011, 09:45:59 AM
Quote from: cecilia;629331

laugh all you wish, but I am an Amiga Snob for a really good reason. I carry Amiga with me in my brain even if I have not touched my old Amiga 2000 is a long time. It exists where it counts. And continues to inform my work no matter what device I use.

You are Amiga enthusiast, no matter that you use other devices. Back in 1997-1999 I did not had Amiga at home for a while. (I had PSX with very nice games), but I was pure Amiga enthusiast back then. I was reading about all the developments, visiting Aminet from the university, getting magazines, etc.. Collecting software, even if I did not had the hardware. I did not trash Phase 5 back then even if their PPC accelerators were practically unaffordable for me with not much software and games compared to the games for Sony Playstation.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: drHirudo on April 07, 2011, 09:52:51 AM
Quote from: adz;629365
+1

One particularly important thing my Amiga's and C64's taught me was patience ;)


The Amiga loading was not that bad. After I got used to the slow disk loading of the Amiga, I got C64 with disk drive and original games. I expected to be faster as my Oric clone disk interface, and the Apple II disk interface, but the C64 interface was terribly slow. I expected 8 bit games to load faster. Then I tried loading original C64 tape from Cassete drive - that was sloooooow. A friend of mine told me about the slow loading times of ZX Sinclair, but I never had such machine at home. Only saw people playing Sinclair game at club. Most of the time during my half hour visit at this club was the players talking to each other while waiting for a game to load next stage. Now I see why we did not had facebook back then. We were socializing while waiting for a game to load.
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: gertsy on April 07, 2011, 12:47:22 PM
Off topic but ZX Spectrum tape is slow but not as slow as the C64. Jeeze Louise go and make a coffee, a sandwitch, eat it and come back.  Sometimes to the dreaded "Tape Loading Error"  nooooo!  
Fun times my arse!
Title: Re: This place is ruined. Time to leave.
Post by: Darrin on April 07, 2011, 01:47:51 PM
Quote from: gertsy;629532
Off topic but ZX Spectrum tape is slow but not as slow as the C64. Jeeze Louise go and make a coffee, a sandwitch, eat it and come back.  Sometimes to the dreaded "Tape Loading Error"  nooooo!  
Fun times my arse!


The worst game I remember for loading off tape was Arcadia64 which took over 20 minues to load.  To think that today we sit there cursing programs that take a couple of seconds to load.  :D