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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: Pyromania on March 29, 2011, 12:22:35 AM
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We are seriouly considering making more of our Digital Video Effects available for the Amiga Video Toaster. Most of out effects currently require a TriCaster, VT[5] or SpeedEDIT. But before we can invest the time and resources into this we need to know how many active Amiga Video Toaster owners are left? If you don't mind please take a sec to answer our poll.
Best regards
DiscreetFX Team
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Had to vote for the last option cos I only use A1200 these days... :)
Hopefully though enough people will vote positively though to encourage you to do so... :)
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Pryromania
There is still a surprising amount of toaster users but they dont even know about sites like this. Back in nyc I had many toaster customers for repairs or upgrades..
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Believe it or not you can jimmy rigg a A1200 to use a Video Toaster 4000 card.
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Believe it or not you can jimmy rigg a A1200 to use a Video Toaster 4000 card.
Wow all these years and I never know that, where can I find some info on how to do that... :)
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All you need is an expansion kit that adds a video slot. NewTek had to sell to A1200 owners when A4000T machines became illegal to manufacture.
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All you need is an expansion kit that adds a video slot. NewTek had to sell to A1200 owners when A4000T machines became illegal to manufacture.
I take it the only hope of finding one of them would be on eBay these days... :(
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I have the A4k version in my stock A4000, that I originally got when I traded it for an a1200, but its without software.
Unless I can find a full toaster/flyer/external HD case/accelerator with lotsa ram) for real cheap, I don't see using it. My Toshiba laptop/Pinnacle Studio/Canon FS200 setup works great, and is portable! Sorry.
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I have the A4k version in my stock A4000, that I originally got when I traded it for an a1200, but its without software.
Unless I can find a full toaster/flyer/external HD case/accelerator with lotsa ram) for real cheap, I don't see using it. My Toshiba laptop/Pinnacle Studio/Canon FS200 setup works great, and is portable! Sorry.
Why not just use CF cards instead of hard drives? Even if you don't have a Flyer you can use your Video Toaster 4000 as a live switcher/effects/paintbox and input it into other editing systems.
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Haven't used mine in about a decade. I should pull it out and store it but it doesn't seem worth it. How much electricity do they draw?
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I use my toaster to VJ with the switcher doing all my effects, I have 3 systems only one working, my PAR worked for 5 minutes and the HD died, I am building a new desk area to work on them, they are big, I guess I am spoiled by laptops too. I love reading all things here on A.org and thank every one who has helped me over the years that I have returned to Amiga computers.
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Why not just use CF cards instead of hard drives? Even if you don't have a Flyer you can use your Video Toaster 4000 as a live switcher/effects/paintbox and input it into other editing systems.
To be specific, I have a hard drive already in it that has WB 3.9 installed. I don't have the Toaster software, although I should get off my lazy butt and get the damn CD.
Playing with it back during broadcasting school was fun.
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I haven't used mine in almost 2 years. Love to do another project someday, but where's the time these days. I probably need to start snooping around for a 4000 card to replace the 2000 card.
Plaz
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We are seriouly considering making more of our Digital Video Effects available for the Amiga Video Toaster. Most of out effects currently require a TriCaster, VT[5] or SpeedEDIT. But before we can invest the time and resources into this we need to know how many active Amiga Video Toaster owners are left? If you don't mind please take a sec to answer our poll.
Best regards
DiscreetFX Team
Well, regardless of the number of active Toaster/Flyer users you find, I hope that you will continue to support us few remaining users with new products. It is your last link to the original Amiga that you know and love, but not a "correct" business decision for making money.
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Yes, sadly the Video Toaster on any platform is no longer a shipping available new product.
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We are seriouly considering making more of our Digital Video Effects available for the Amiga Video Toaster.
I have a few A2000 Video Toaster systems. What effects are you considering?
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Pryromania
There is still a surprising amount of toaster users but they dont even know about sites like this. Back in nyc I had many toaster customers for repairs or upgrades..
So true. I know of a lady who lives in Woodstock NY and she still uses a Toaster/Flyer for her business.
I have a couple T/F setups but have yet to find the time and dive in yet.. I hope soon though.
Rich
NY
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I still have a Video Toaster and TBC, but they are not currently being used. That may well change though.
IT isn't a 4000 however.
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Motrucker, I didn't know you was a toaster man too. Did you get your car fixed? I still want to come up your way soon and check out your system. Nobody here even knows what a toaster is. I have 2 kitchen sync's that I want to link togther but need the cable between them. Now that it is warmer I am going out to the garage and use a ide cable it looks the same. If it works I will have all 4 inputs working on my toaster, something I have never done. not that I have 4 camaras to use. I built a area in the garage to start using the toaster for some stop motion things I want to do. I wanted to use a PAR but that died before I could use it. I will try now that it is warmer alot of Amiga stuff that I got on ebay. I remember back in the day I could never afford to even look at 2 kitchen syncs, now I have 2 and a toaster that I could never afford. so far I have to camaras that are color balanced and another that is off some, but I want to start filming next weekend. just some band stuff and comit to a DVD burner, using the toaster in a live setting.
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I bought the Toaster 2000 in the ebay link mentioned earlier and a Kitchen Sync myvbay was selling. I have an A2000 with 2MB chip and an Indivision ECS (I wonder if the Indi is compatible with the Toaster system). I was asking the seller a few questions and he said that I would need some sort of audio card for audio input AND an accelerator. Could prove hard to find a fast one. I don't have ANY experience with the Toaster but I have a very specific plan for it. My daughter and I want to create some basic "commercials" to post on my business website. Mostly "bodies" superimposed on a background image or background video with effects, titling and audio. I hope that's possible with what I've bought + audio card and Accelerator.
I was reading that the Kitchen Sync could take an input from any consumer video product such as a camcorder - is that true? Is that how that's done - live video from camcorder to Kitchen Sync using the Toaster for background and effects?
I was sitting here and thought I would do a Toaster search on A.O. and came across this post. I too had no idea that Pyro what part of the DiscreetFX Team. Is there a forum on how to get started using the Toaster and how to create some video/audio productions?
Anyway, I'd like to get started.....
I think the Toaster and KS will arrive tomorrow!
Rog........
This thread was alot of help - I too want to use the PC as an input.
Output to a PC with DVD-RAM sounds totally possible
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=56675&highlight=toaster+2000
+3 on a Toaster 2000 manual please!!!
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Had to vote for the last option cos I only use A1200 these days... :)
Hopefully though enough people will vote positively though to encourage you to do so... :)
My Toaster/Flyer set-up is a towered A1200, so that's no excuse!
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@gizmo350
Welcome to the cool kids club.
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@orb85750
Your the first one that has mentioned having it setup on the A1200. How well does it work and which bus extension board did you use?
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@gizmo350
Welcome to the cool kids club.
:)
@orb85750
Your the first one that has mentioned having it setup on the A1200. How well does it work and which bus extension board did you use?
Thanks! Always wanted to hang with the cool kids! :biglaugh:
BTW, WTB A2000 Accellerator.... any sellers? :confused:
(as the A2000 is now - 2MB chip & 8MB Fast the poor thing can't even play a CD without serious skippage)
Is this worth the $$$? Can't really justify this much!!!
http://www.softhut.com/cgi-bin/test/Web_store/web_store.cgi?page=catalog/hardware/accelerators/gvp_tekmagic.html&cart_id=7493969_30906
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@gizmo350
Don't know if it's worth it, we use the Video Toaster 4000 on a A4000T. I guess something is worth what your willing to pay.
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I miss the innocence when the Toaster was king, back then you could just wack together videos and people loved them, now you have to end everything so the timing is just right and every video must be perfect in form. Video editing has become a chore rather than a fun thing.
Actually that's not 100% true, video editing on the iPad is to this close is good enough standard.
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Believe it or not you can jimmy rigg a A1200 to use a Video Toaster 4000 card.
If im not mistaken the elbox mediator gives a video slot for the 1200 doesn't it??
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Ask jens,but im pretty sure i saw mention the indivision works with toaster stuff fine.
I bought the Toaster 2000 in the ebay link mentioned earlier and a Kitchen Sync myvbay was selling. I have an A2000 with 2MB chip and an Indivision ECS (I wonder if the Indi is compatible with the Toaster system). I was asking the seller a few questions and he said that I would need some sort of audio card for audio input AND an accelerator. Could prove hard to find a fast one. I don't have ANY experience with the Toaster but I have a very specific plan for it. My daughter and I want to create some basic "commercials" to post on my business website. Mostly "bodies" superimposed on a background image or background video with effects, titling and audio. I hope that's possible with what I've bought + audio card and Accelerator.
I was reading that the Kitchen Sync could take an input from any consumer video product such as a camcorder - is that true? Is that how that's done - live video from camcorder to Kitchen Sync using the Toaster for background and effects?
I was sitting here and thought I would do a Toaster search on A.O. and came across this post. I too had no idea that Pyro what part of the DiscreetFX Team. Is there a forum on how to get started using the Toaster and how to create some video/audio productions?
Anyway, I'd like to get started.....
I think the Toaster and KS will arrive tomorrow!
Rog........
This thread was alot of help - I too want to use the PC as an input.
Output to a PC with DVD-RAM sounds totally possible
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=56675&highlight=toaster+2000
+3 on a Toaster 2000 manual please!!!
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I miss the innocence when the Toaster was king, back then you could just wack together videos and people loved them, now you have to end everything so the timing is just right and every video must be perfect in form. Video editing has become a chore rather than a fun thing.
Actually that's not 100% true, video editing on the iPad is to this close is good enough standard.
@persia
What did/do you create videos for & who? Do you have anything you've created that can be viewed? I'm actually going for the old skool look & feel.
"Video editing has become a chore rather than a fun thing."
Is that because you're now using a PC?
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@gizmo350
You can download a PDF of the manual to the latest Amiga Video Toaster software from here.
http://www.openvideotoaster.org
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I should have one, but I believe the seller on Ebay never shipped it. Like that, my iPod, and a copy of the Te of Piglet, I am not sure they are ever going to arrive in the mail.
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My Toaster/Flyer set-up is a towered A1200, so that's no excuse!
Ok... so tell where & what to get for my towered A1200 and I'll buy it... :)
It's the one thing for the Amiga that I've always wanted but never had, mainly because they never released a PAL version... :(
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Ok... so tell where & what to get for my towered A1200 and I'll buy it... :)
It's the one thing for the Amiga that I've always wanted but never had, mainly because they never released a PAL version... :(
Franko, just noticed this over at DiscreetFX:
Flying Buddy - The Amiga Video Toaster & Flyer were only available in NTSC due to circumstances beyond the manufactures control. However if you live in a country that uses the PAL video standard you can edit in NTSC then output your final video production using the external Flying Buddy. This product works with or without a Flyer card.
Now Available!
Introductory Price $69.95
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Well what do you know, my Toaster 2000 and TBC came in the mail today... only about three weeks after it was said to have shipped. Ironically it was post dated for 2 days ago.
Now to find a cheap 2000 with 040 or 060
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Ok... so tell where & what to get for my towered A1200 and I'll buy it... :)
It's the one thing for the Amiga that I've always wanted but never had, mainly because they never released a PAL version... :(
there are more than 1 busboard-solution out there for the amiga who have an videoslotenabler-option. for example this:
http://www.amiga-resistance.info/bboahfaq/index.php?action=artikel&cat=77&id=3562&artlang=de
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@Pyromania
Get the PAL version of the Toaster4000 released and you got one more user ;)