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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: rednova on March 26, 2011, 10:08:46 PM
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Dear Friends:
Even though my a1200 had many problems, it is still run good.
I just decided, instead of buying a new amiga (like a 4k or 3k)
I will save my money to expand my amiga 1200.
For example, I would like to get a:
-new accelerator
-external cd drive
and anything good I can find.
If I save my money, I can afford this expansion.
I will expand my amiga 1200 !!!
Rednova
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Good on you... :)
I don't think you will regret expanding your A1200, it's the best machine Commodore ever made and when fully expanded nothing can touch it... :)
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That is pure crap. i like the a1200 a lot but the flagship and most expandable high end amiga is the 4000. Period.
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That is pure crap. i like the a1200 a lot but the flagship and most expandable high end amiga is the 4000. Period.
Oh no... the loser is back... :lol:
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...except that whole 128MB RAM on the CPU slot limitation whereas the 1200 can do 256MB!
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@ franko
thank you for your encouragement.
@magnetic
yes, I do believe the a4000 is the best, most expandable amiga
but my a1200 is more than enough for my all needs, and if I
expand it, this would be superb for what I use it.
My amiga 1200 is good enough for my needs !!!
Rednova
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Depends on the expectations and targets.
One aspect in particular between Zorro-equipped Amiga and all-in-one solution (like A1200 not towered, of course):
do you plan/want a graphic card?
If so, it's better to go with an A3000/4000.
There's the BVison, but needs the proper accelerator and both are quite (very?) expensive.
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...except that whole 128MB RAM on the CPU slot limitation whereas the 1200 can do 256MB!
While my A4000 also has an added system 216MB of RAM from my graphics card. ;)
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Dear Friends:
I will expand my amiga 1200 !!!
Rednova
SUBWAY!!!
:)
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Here's a wee list of stuff to add to a desktop A1200 to make it a machine that will cover all your Amiga needs... :)
Blizzard060 60Mhz 128MB RAM...
or
Blizzard030 50Mhz 128MB RAM...
FastATA MKIII Buffered Interface...
DVD/CD Re-Writer...
SubWay USB Device...
Cocolino Wireless Mouse Adapter...
Wouldn't bother with a BlizzardPPC board though, cost a small fortune if you can find one and the BVision GFX card is rarer than a sober Scotsman on a Saturday night... (still haven't found one myself)... :)
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Rednova
No, i'm sure :) Look at my sig. I love the A1200 just correcting the NON Factual statement made by Franko is all..
btw guys I'm thinking of getting the subway so i can install stuff from cdrom and read cd.. how fast is it like 2x speed or better?
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Rednova
No, i'm sure :) Look at my sig. I love the A1200 just correcting the NON Factual statement made by Franko is all..
btw guys I'm thinking of getting the subway so i can install stuff from cdrom and read cd.. how fast is it like 2x speed or better?
No need to worry what that low life loser Franko has to say. Never know what he says since I ignored him, but any advice anywhere else is already better than what he could ever give.
On topic:
An accelerator at least 68030/50mhz and 32mb ram does sufficient. I never took the Amiga back online ever since 2001. The only thing I would do on it from time to time is games and OctaMED v4 or soundstudio. Either way, getting anything for your Amiga is great.
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kd7ota
Yeah, nothing worse than a guy who acts like an expert and they dont know WTF they are talking about... i hate that especially for people looking for real answers..
anyway.. u see my sig so usb cd speeds should be cool then?
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Off hand I don't have a clue as to the whole USB cd speeds. Only thing I used at the time was some generic cdrom drive connected to my external Dataflyer case. It worked to an extent.
But someone im sure will know more about it. This is why I don't go posting on everything like someone does *cough* franky *cough*.
Hope you can get the answers you want.
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That is pure crap. i like the a1200 a lot but the flagship and most expandable high end amiga is the 4000. Period.
Hi,
@magnetic,
Yes it is a high end Amiga with a high end price to expand it. Like when I bought my Blizzard PPC card for my Amiga's I checked the prices for an Amiga 4000 and found that $!999 for a cheap ppc was just out of my league, so I bought a PPC for my Amiga 1200. Seems like everything I price for the A4000 is at least $500 more.
smerf
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SUBWAY!!!
:)
Hi,
You should really slow down when eating your subway sandwichs, then you wouldn't choke so much and avoid coughing.
smerf
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Personally if I wanted an expanded Amiga the model I would choose depends on whether I had a need for 24bit graphics, 16bit sound, VLAB Y/C or VLAB PAR, GVP Impact Vision 24 etc etc or not.
Also the keyboard on the 500 600 and 1200 is quite bad....probably worse than the cheapest PC keyboards I've ever used in my life.
And towering an 1200 is a headache too.
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kd7ota
Yeah, nothing worse than a guy who acts like an expert and they dont know WTF they are talking about... i hate that especially for people looking for real answers..
anyway.. u see my sig so usb cd speeds should be cool then?
Hi,
@magnetic,
Yeah, I know what you mean, I really hate people who act like experts and don't know WTF they are talking about especially when people are looking for real answers.
@Franko
Hey thanks for the help you have given me on several occasions, you saved me a lot of reading and looking for my old manuals on the Amiga. I really don't know anything about the Amiga since I have been with it since 2 weeks after the Amiga 1000 came out, but you know Franko, all of us old timers have been helping each other whenever we can. By the way that suggestion you sent me cleared up my new ide cdrom drive, it running like a champ, still looking at that info you sent me on OS4 for my A1200, it seems that when my install starts running the screen was going blank after about 15 minutes of installation, I believe my Power Supply is going bad, for now my Amiga 1200 is off until I get a new power supply set up. Have to go up in the Attic and see if I have any old AT supplies up there, and maybe while I am up there I will look for a digiview for digiman (no I haven't forgot just too much stuff going on, and I hate attics, it's spooky up there, and you never know about that darn madman "Franko" he hides everywhere).
smerf
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Personally if I wanted an expanded Amiga the model I would choose depends on whether I had a need for 24bit graphics, 16bit sound, VLAB Y/C or VLAB PAR, GVP Impact Vision 24 etc etc or not.
Also the keyboard on the 500 600 and 1200 is quite bad....probably worse than the cheapest PC keyboards I've ever used in my life.
And towering an 1200 is a headache too.[
Hi,
Don't know I towered mine, went pretty smooth, used old server case I had laying around, now I remember why I shut down that server, it had a weak power supply.
I have a lyra 2 keyboard adapter (AmigaKit) works great, and if I wanted I could use expensive PC keyboards on my Amiga. I especially like the one where you could program the keys and program the actual letters and stuff on them, that way you could program a key to have a lit up Amiga "A" key on the keyboard, saving my pennies know for one, they only cost $1500, is that expensive enough for you.
smerf
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No need to worry what that low life loser Franko has to say. Never know what he says since I ignored him, but any advice anywhere else is already better than what he could ever give.
Off hand I don't have a clue as to the whole USB cd speeds. Only thing I used at the time was some generic cdrom drive connected to my external Dataflyer case. It worked to an extent.
But someone im sure will know more about it. This is why I don't go posting on everything like someone does *cough* franky *cough*.
:roflmao:
What a total dunderheid, rattling his gums about poor wee me and then nicking my avatar & claiming he's ignoring me... :roflmao:
Then the wahoo goes on to say he doesn't have a clue about USB CD speeds for the A1200, when if he hadn't been ignoring me he would have know that I've posted on a few occasions the answer to this... what a knobhead... :lol:
@ magnetic
Yeah, nothing worse than a guy who acts like an expert and they dont know WTF they are talking about... i hate that especially for people looking for real answers..
anyway.. u see my sig so usb cd speeds should be cool then?
Are you really that thick, didn't think it was possible for a single cell organism like yourself to be so dumb... :roflmao:
Strange way you've got of ignoring all my posts like you claimed in the PM you sent me a couple of days ago along with your idle threats... :roflmao:
Ignoring my posts means you don't read them then respond to them but it's obvious your too thick to grasp a simple concept like that... gawd what an absolute waste of space you are, go back to AmiBay and ripping other Amiga users off seems it was the only thing you had any talent at, until you got caught... :D
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How much fun it is to be an Amigian.
All he wants to do is expand his Amiga....and the WAR is on on what the best Amiga
is suited for expansion.
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How much fun it is to be an Amigian.
All he wants to do is expand his Amiga....and the WAR is on on what the best Amiga
is suited for expansion.
RedNova made it quite clear in his original post that he wants to expand his A1200 but certain dunderheids round here can't get that through their thick skulls, reckon sharing that brain cell between them just aint working... :)
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If the gentleman already has a 1200, going out and shelling out 400+ dollars for a 4000 is probably not the way to go.
Get one of the ACA cards if they are still available. For most classic amiga stuff, an 030 will do great, and they have more RAM than you'll know what to do with.
Graphics cards are nice but I guess I never felt the need. Seems to make it more of a PC. I got one of those already.
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franko
All you do is pollute threads with nonsense. now you are attacking me and its baseless you look like a fool. I've been in the Amiga community almost 15 yrs now, you are just some no life loser that found a place to latch onto since nobody in the real world will listen to you or want to be your friend. So, stop hijacking threads and using attacking me as an excuse to do so. Since you've been around many serious amiga guys dont come on aorg as they think its a joke.
Good job. One of the greatest and longest running amiga sites and you turn it into your personal playground. Maybe you can find another wife to sit around and play video games with and have your daughter bring you cofee refills and ashtray changes like you said in another thread. Great way to raise a child you worthless piece of euro trash.
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@magnetic
Couldn't agree with you more. Well said. It almost makes me ashamed claiming that I even used an Amiga when you got some crazed psycho like Franko at every corner you turn. Hell I think id rather have doomy back, and thats not something to be proud of.... Least doomy wouldnt be posting every moment he had a chance to.
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franko
All you do is pollute threads with nonsense. now you are attacking me and its baseless you look like a fool. I've been in the Amiga community almost 15 yrs now, you are just some no life loser that found a place to latch onto since nobody in the real world will listen to you or want to be your friend. So, stop hijacking threads and using attacking me as an excuse to do so. Since you've been around many serious amiga guys dont come on aorg as they think its a joke.
Good job. One of the greatest and longest running amiga sites and you turn it into your personal playground. Maybe you can find another wife to sit around and play video games with and have your daughter bring you cofee refills and ashtray changes like you said in another thread. Great way to raise a child you worthless piece of euro trash.
Yup 15 years of conning and ripping folk off that's something you must be really proud of... :roflmao:
Believe everything you read do you, you brain dead yankee doodle twat... :lol:
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@magnetic
Couldn't agree with you more. Well said. It almost makes me ashamed claiming that I even used an Amiga when you got some crazed psycho like Franko at every corner you turn. Hell I think id rather have doomy back, and thats not something to be proud of.... Least doomy wouldnt be posting every moment he had a chance to.
You should be ashamed when you lower yourself to making disgusting remarks about other folks ex-wifes... scumbag...
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You should be ashamed when you lower yourself to making disgusting remarks about other folks ex-wifes... scumbag...
Nope. Glad your wife ditched you when she did. Why be involved by a prick that "flaps his gums" at just about anything or comments on the littlest things?
Heres something you can try franko douche, not post for a week and piss off...
Oh wait... You can't! Not even if your life depended on it... This is getting fun!
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Nope. Glad your wife ditched you when she did. Why be involved by a prick that "flaps his gums" at just about anything or comments on the littlest things?
Heres something you can try franko douche, not post for a week and piss off...
Oh wait... You can't! Not even if your life depended on it... This is getting fun!
I'm loving every minute of this, knowing that you have nothing better to do with your life than make totally lame posts here... :roflmao:
Keep trying matey maybe one day you'll actually come up with something original, amusing or even makes some sense... :lol:
I await eagerly for your next lame reply... ;)
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I'm loving every minute of this, knowing that you have nothing better to do with your life than make totally lame posts here... :roflmao:
Keep trying matey maybe one day you'll actually come up with something original, amusing or even makes some sense... :lol:
I await eagerly for your next lame reply... ;)
PLENTY of things to do with my life. Now why would I be on here and posting? Oh thats right! To rid piss ants like yourself from ruining a good site.
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PLENTY of things to do with my life. Now why would I be on here and posting? Oh thats right! To rid piss ants like yourself from ruining a good site.
Not doing a very good job of it are you... :lol:
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Not doing a very good job of it are you... :lol:
Nope. I reckon you're just a wee bit handicapped to wrap your head on when to be quiet. Then again, you take meds for that brain of yours...... Now I feel like an idiot for trying to tell a retard to be quiet lol! please forgive Franko douche! :)
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Nope. I reckon you're just a wee bit handicapped to wrap your head on when to be quiet. Then again, you take meds for that brain of yours...... Now I feel like an idiot for trying to tell a retard to be quiet lol! please forgive Franko douche! :)
Nah... I never forgive & never forget... ;)
This brain may be faulty but at least I have one and your right to feel like an idiot cos that's exactly what you are... :)
Now why don't you go and feel another idiot like your wee bumchum magnetic... :roflmao:
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You're all a bunch of clowns as far as Im concerned. (franko, magnetic, kd7ota). Kd7ota in particular stands out as patheric in this particular thread though. Sure spends a lot of time talking about the thing he says he isnt worth his time.
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You're all a bunch of clowns as far as Im concerned. (franko, magnetic, kd7ota). Kd7ota in particular stands out as patheric in this particular thread though. Sure spends a lot of time talking about the thing he says he isnt worth his time.
Forgive fishy_fiz. :)
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@Rednova
I guess it all comes down to what you want from your Amiga. The a3k/a4k option is obviously more powerful (even vs an a1200 system upgraded to the same specs), and has the advantage of easier access to rtg/rta, whose influence and speed gains are quite substantial vs aga. The difference really is like chalk and cheese, not just in the potential graphics quality, but the speed. Granted you lose aga with an a3k, but Id take easier, non hacky rtg over aga any day if it was my only amiga.
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You're all a bunch of clowns as far as Im concerned. (franko, magnetic, kd7ota). Kd7ota in particular stands out as patheric in this particular thread though. Sure spends a lot of time talking about the thing he says he isnt worth his time.
Can't argue with you on that comment Fishy, no excuses, just got caught up replying in kind to someone who started on me for no reason... :(
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Hi,
Franko,
Are you causing a ruckess again?
Must be a bunch of Irishmen here then.
How did you get that silly red X on your picture?
smerf
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fishy fiz
i'm sorry but i'm not going to let this juvenile twat make up stories about me. I have a good reputation in the amiga community.. and i'm not talking about clowning on forums
How can I really ignore this loser? what settings? I dont want to look at his stupid avatar dont want to see his inane posts.. please tell me. This guy is ruining amiga.org he posts on every thread a bunch of pointless stupidity i cant stand it anymore.
and Franko u FOOL I NEVER RIPPED ANYONE OFF IN MY LIFE YOU MORON YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO I AM OR WHAT I'VE DONE so stfu and kiss your sorry chance of ever getting a wife again because who could stand an annoying twat such as yourself?
I'VE NEVER SEEN 1 PERSON HIJACK THREADS AND RUIN AN AMIGA BOARD UNTIL I MET YOU you useless tosser.
@ Smerf
Thats another user with an X over the idiot franko's childish avatar. And Yes I am Irish and its a good thing that this little girl is in another country or i would give him a right beating. Although when i finally met his snot nosed, scrawny nerdy, lonely ass i'd probably feel sorry for him and let it be. What a waste. Where the fuck did this dolt come from? Not used to this on a good amiga board like this. What a shame.
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fishy fiz
i'm sorry but i'm not going to let this juvenile twat make up stories about me. I have a good reputation in the amiga community.. and i'm not talking about clowning on forums
How can I really ignore this loser? what settings? I dont want to look at his stupid avatar dont want to see his inane posts.. please tell me. This guy is ruining amiga.org he posts on every thread a bunch of pointless stupidity i cant stand it anymore.
and Franko u FOOL I NEVER RIPPED ANYONE OFF IN MY LIFE YOU MORON YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO I AM OR WHAT I'VE DONE so stfu and kiss your sorry chance of ever getting a wife again because who could stand an annoying twat such as yourself?
I'VE NEVER SEEN 1 PERSON HIJACK THREADS AND RUIN AN AMIGA BOARD UNTIL I MET YOU you useless tosser.
High five! :)
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Hi Smerf... :)
Moi... causing a ruckess... thought I was just having a nice wee conversation with my mother here... :)
I think the red X on me pic must be the Mr Hyde side of me who's figured out how to get on the net using one of me old left over miggies and now I have to do battle with him till the potion wears off and I/He/Me/We returns to our normal sane selves again..:)
Cheers
Franko (I think)
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Thats another user with an X over the idiot franko's childish avatar.
I couldn't do it anymore. Hate looking at it. ;)
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and Franko u FOOL I NEVER RIPPED ANYONE OFF IN MY LIFE YOU MORON YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO I AM OR WHAT I'VE DONE so stfu and kiss your sorry chance of ever getting a wife again because who could stand an annoying twat such as yourself?
I'VE NEVER SEEN 1 PERSON HIJACK THREADS AND RUIN AN AMIGA BOARD UNTIL I MET YOU you useless tosser.
@ Smerf
Thats another user with an X over the idiot franko's childish avatar. And Yes I am Irish and its a good thing that this little girl is in another country or i would give him a right beating. Although when i finally met his snot nosed, scrawny nerdy, lonely ass i'd probably feel sorry for him and let it be. What a waste. Where the fuck did this dolt come from? Not used to this on a good amiga board like this. What a shame.
Oh yes I do just ask folk on the AmiBay & Lemon forums about your ripping folk off for years now and I know who I'd believe... :D
Tell you what if you want to make threats at me give me your address and I'll pay you a visit when I'm over in the USA late this summer visiting family in Portland, we'll see who get's a right beating then... ;)
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So I hate to be on-topic and all...
While a 3000 or 4000 is very expandable, it'll also cost him at least 200 bucks extra (and thats aiming low). Throw in a ton of money to get upgrades for it.
He already stated he wanted to expand his 1200, so why not point him in the right directions there? :)
Especially if he's on a budget
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So I hate to be on-topic and all...
While a 3000 or 4000 is very expandable, it'll also cost him at least 200 bucks extra (and thats aiming low). Throw in a ton of money to get upgrades for it.
He already stated he wanted to expand his 1200, so why not point him in the right directions there? :)
Especially if he's on a budget
I made a wee list up at the beginning of the thread on what RedNova should be looking to buy if he really wants to expand his A1200... :)
But we really need to know what he aims to do with it in order to advise him on the best way to go... :)
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Potato.
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I made a wee list up at the beginning of the thread on what RedNova should be looking to buy if he really wants to expand his A1200... :)
But we really need to know what he aims to do with it in order to advise him on the best way to go... :)
Hi,
Was this the list you gave him to get him started, I chose 4 of those items off the list myself I sure did. I picked items 3, 4, 5, & 6. Sorry I didn't pick 1 or 2 because I bought my Blizzard board when they first came out.
1. Blizzard060 60Mhz 128MB RAM...
or
2. Blizzard030 50Mhz 128MB RAM...
3. FastATA MKIII Buffered Interface...
4. DVD/CD Re-Writer...
5. SubWay USB Device...
6. Cocolino Wireless Mouse Adapter...
Now the only other thing I did was bought a lyra keyboard adapter, so I could tower my A1200 board, and since I cannot find a Bvision card, I just might swing for a mediator board because I have an old Voodoo board.
Now why didn't I bother to upgrade my A4000, because a PPC board cost about 3 times as much as a PPC board for the A1200, but I did buy a GVP IV 24 board, and a Picasso II board and a Buddha board for my A4000, but I am still using the lowly A3640 card for speed.
Now to magnetic and picture copy matic. Please read the post, and you will find out that Franko was right at his advice. He did not disagree that the A4000 is the flagship of the Amiga's (personally I believe it is the A3000 because even Dave says "Commodore made us butcher the A4000 so that it was half the computer we wanted it to be".
Dave Haynee.
OK, alright.
smerf
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Ah good you little punk. You will be right near LA I will meet you on Hollwyood boulevard and give you a LIVE BEATING IN FRONT OF ALL THE TOURSISTS. This is because of you saying i rip people off. This is the worst most idiot foundless thing to say. SO BACK UP YOUR WORDS IN FRONT OF EVERYONE I'M CALLING YOU OUT YOU CAN MEET ME IN HOLLWYOOD AND I WILL KICK YOUR STUPID EURO TRASH ASS. and i'm not using smilies either you fcking pussy. DONT EVER INSULT MY INTERGRITY YOU LOW LIFE LOSER.
AND YOU CAN BRING YOUR FRIENDS TO YOU PEASANT
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Intergrity ? You really think you have any after the crap youve been posting ? Dont like Franko, that's fine, but I fail to see how making yourself look like more of a goose and contributing to annoying most people that use this site gives you integrity.
FFS, knock it off will y'all ? Other people use this site too you realise? It's not here for you, franko and your lapdog (who's name I currently forget) to take childish pot shots at each other.
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Ah good you little punk. You will be right near LA I will meet you on Hollwyood boulevard and give you a LIVE BEATING IN FRONT OF ALL THE TOURSISTS. This is because of you saying i rip people off. This is the worst most idiot foundless thing to say. SO BACK UP YOUR WORDS IN FRONT OF EVERYONE I'M CALLING YOU OUT YOU CAN MEET ME IN HOLLWYOOD AND I WILL KICK YOUR STUPID EURO TRASH ASS. and i'm not using smilies either you fcking pussy. DONT EVER INSULT MY INTERGRITY YOU LOW LIFE LOSER.
AND YOU CAN BRING YOUR FRIENDS TO YOU PEASANT
I'm only the next state over. Franko better bring an extra pair of underwear. :lol:
Summer is just around the corner too. This should be good. Keep us posted.
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Intergrity ? Isn't that what you get when you eat sandy food?
As opposed to Integrity. Which isn't something you have or hold. It's how others perceive you. Just like arrogance.
Rednova : Don't forget you get a free PCMCIA slot on the A1200 which is very handy. I have both machines and I tend to use the A1200 as I find the PCMCIA slot very versatile. Even though the A4000 is connected to the same monitor as my everyday PC.
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..I guess its not possible to remove all off-topic posts from this thread?
Right, on-topic, I just wanted to say that I had an unexpanded a1200 and a4000 and in the end I choose the a1200 for my 'upgrade path', since thats the only machine that can scale right down to basic 2MB 020 cpu by the press of a button. apart from that, a a towered a1200 offers a lot more space than a desktop a4000.
As far as upgrades go, the mentioned ACA 030 is great, as is a second-hand blizzard 1230 or even 1260 (although for that money, please consider the blizzardppc instead). You' ve got to understand that you're stuck with AGA, which is very slow on higher resolutions. I would recommend an indivision too and I bet you have a 3.5" harddrive in there already.
good luck expanding and enjoying!
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Personally Id never buy a bppc again and especially an '040 based one. Id prefer an '060 anyday. For classic use the ppc side is very limited plus restricted by the 680x0 cpu anyway, and for an NG option (os4.x,mos) its too slow. Sure the OS may run ok, but what use is an OS when the software runs badly? The only good thing about the bppc when I had it was the expansion connector with which I addeda Grex. Never again would I buy such a system though.
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Seeing as no mods have have commented on this thread, i've taken the liberty of contacting them myself. I can't believe what i'm reading on here.
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I think the general concensus is (without doing another survey), as far as classics go, the A1200 with a good accelerator is a handy little machine. I agree. I'd get an indvision too if I didn't have 2 LCD monitors that work at 15k and VGA.
It's not hard to get on the A1200 banned wagon, err, hem, bandwagon, sorry.
Ahh the serenity..TG...
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Hi,
Don't know I towered mine, went pretty smooth, used old server case I had laying around, now I remember why I shut down that server, it had a weak power supply.
I have a lyra 2 keyboard adapter (AmigaKit) works great, and if I wanted I could use expensive PC keyboards on my Amiga. I especially like the one where you could program the keys and program the actual letters and stuff on them, that way you could program a key to have a lit up Amiga "A" key on the keyboard, saving my pennies know for one, they only cost $1500, is that expensive enough for you.
smerf
I just meant finding all the bits to tower an A1200 cheaply in one place was probably a headache. If you do though best to get a nice A1500/2000/3000/4000 keyboard :)
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I think the general concensus is (without doing another survey), as far as classics go, the A1200 with a good accelerator is a handy little machine. I agree. I'd get an indvision too if I didn't have 2 LCD monitors that work at 15k and VGA.
It's not hard to get on the A1200 banned wagon, err, hem, bandwagon, sorry.
Ahh the serenity..TG...
I would agree with that given the very reasonable ACA cards out now.
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its also very easy to network a 1200 for dirt cheap.
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I see the mighty Ban Hammer has been deployed on three of the posters here. I hope this is a temporary "slap on the wrist" thing.
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Personally Id never buy a bppc again and especially an '040 based one. Id prefer an '060 anyday. For classic use the ppc side is very limited plus restricted by the 680x0 cpu anyway, and for an NG option (os4.x,mos) its too slow. Sure the OS may run ok, but what use is an OS when the software runs badly? The only good thing about the bppc when I had it was the expansion connector with which I addeda Grex. Never again would I buy such a system though.
Ditto. I don't miss my 040/BPPC at all.
An 060 card is a much better investment IMO.
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I see the mighty Ban Hammer has been deployed on three of the posters here. I hope this is a temporary "slap on the wrist" thing.
Ah, glad to see it. Much more of their behavior and Ive have probably gotten myself banned by responding to it :)
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Yeah, it was getting out of hand.
Name calling is one thing, but when it progresses to offering to pay someone a personal visit then it is starting to get Mafia-like! Imagine waking up with a red&white severed horse's head on the pillow next to you with a note attached stating "Your Amiga will be next!"
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Imagine waking up with a red&white severed horse's head on the pillow next to you with a note attached stating "Your Amiga will be next!"
Yeah, I sure wouldnt want that, again.
..... err,... never mind, I fear Ive said too much already :)
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Yeah, I sure wouldnt want that, again.
..... err,... never mind, I fear Ive said too much already :)
Damn atari users
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I'm afraid I made my first ever complaint to the powers at be. I've been on here since the 90's, and it's sad that I finally felt it necessary. I only expected a mod to step in and lay down the law, I did not expect the ban hammer.
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You were by far not the only one. I woke to half a dozen reported post messages on those three in this topic. After I had dealt with those, I immediately got three more. This was the third topic this weekend with multiple reports on those three. Alot of members were getting pissed off and it wasn't just the fault of just one of the three. So, they are off til 8AM tomorrow.
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@Krephen
Dont feel too bad, I know of at least a few others who reported the behavior, myself included. Also dont be surprised if these posts get deleted. Me and Darrin were just discussing the mafia like attitude, red and white horses heads and so on, and those posts seem now to have been removed as well. :)
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Well, then stay on topic.
Rednova just wants help and opinions on expanding and improving his A1200. Not advice on the A4000 or selling and buying one, or emulation, or spats between members that span the forums.
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@Krephen
Dont feel too bad, I know of at least a few others who reported the behavior, myself included. Also dont be surprised if these posts get deleted. Me and Darrin were just discussing the mafia like attitude, red and white horses heads and so on, and those posts seem now to have been removed as well. :)
Someone deleted my pooh bear murder pic in the coffee house :(. I don't know why as it was famly oriented.
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You were by far not the only one. I woke to half a dozen reported post messages on those three in this topic. After I had dealt with those, I immediately got three more. This was the third topic this weekend with multiple reports on those three. Alot of members were getting pissed off and it wasn't just the fault of just one of the three. So, they are off til 8AM tomorrow.
oh, darn I missed the fun! :)
I'm glad this is temporary because I would hate that these guys not return
even when they are arguing about nothing I get a laugh out of it
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Dear friends:
All i wanted was to get advice about expanding my amiga 1200.
I did not intend to start war world III.
I appreciate all sincere feedback.
I decided to quit using my a1200 for 3d work,
I will instead use lightwave 3d on my pc
and the new aladdin pc version when it comes out.
So from now on I will mainly use my amiga 1200 for:
-painting -deluxe paint 4- and -digi paint-
-cartoon animation -moviesetter-
-game programming - amos pro-
As you see I do not require lots of computing power
and I already have a GVP jaws 030/50mhz + 32 mb ram.
I would like a new accelerator but as you see what I have is good enough,
but I would not mind expanding my ram to the max.
I will be completely dedicated to use my amiga for
painting, 2d animation, and game programming.
Thank you for your honest advice.
Rednova
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Hi:
I have very small room in my home, and also a small budget.
Instead of buying a new system (ex a4000)I rather use the money
to expand my amiga 1200.
As i told you, my setup is good enough for my needs, but I would
like to expand just for fun and to get more from my amiga.
Love !!!
Rednova
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My advice is still the same: get a subway. Now I have USB on my Amiga, I couldn't live without it.
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@darrin
How is the subway plugs into the amiga 1200 ?
the pcmcia port ?
how and where does it plug ?
Thanks,
Rednova
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My advice is still the same: get a subway. Now I have USB on my Amiga, I couldn't live without it.
I would also add an Indivision AGA and more RAM for your 1230 to Darrins recommendation too.
Perhaps a FastATA Mk3 from Elbox but they are a little pricey, although they are very good.
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Were does one get the Funky GVP memory?
I also have a A1200 with a GVP 030@40.
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Personally Id never buy a bppc again and especially an '040 based one. Id prefer an '060 anyday. For classic use the ppc side is very limited plus restricted by the 680x0 cpu anyway, and for an NG option (os4.x,mos) its too slow. Sure the OS may run ok, but what use is an OS when the software runs badly? The only good thing about the bppc when I had it was the expansion connector with which I addeda Grex. Never again would I buy such a system though.
Hi,
@fishy_fiz
I agree, the only thing I use the ppc side for is playing ppcDoom, for some reason OS4.0 won't run on my Amiga 1200 with Blizzard ppc. Still messing with it though. I wish I could find a commercial copy of it, I would buy it in a heart beat. The one I got I found on the net. Probably doesn't work. The only thing that works fine for me is the 68040/40mhz side of the ppc card.
smerf
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@darrin
How is the subway plugs into the amiga 1200 ?
the pcmcia port ?
how and where does it plug ?
Thanks,
Rednova
It attaches to the clock port and then you can run the USB ports out to the back of your A1200 via the ribbon cable (that blank removable plastic plate is a good place to put them).
One thing to check is that your A1200 mobo isn't one of the defective revisions with the bad clockport. IIRC there are 3 variations:
1 version has the pins of the clockport fitted correctly.
1 version has the pins duplicated so you have to snap off half the pins (I have this version)
1 version has the pins on the wrong side and is useless.
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I would also add an Indivision AGA and more RAM for your 1230 to Darrins recommendation too.
Perhaps a FastATA Mk3 from Elbox but they are a little pricey, although they are very good.
I have the FastATA from Elbox and the damn thing is a bastard to fit and keep in the ROM sockets, even with cable ties. It is certainly fast and worth the money (and I also have a FastATA in my A4000), but unless you need blistering speed, I would honestly tell people to stick to a cheap 4-way buffered IDE device.
I will agree that the IndivisionAGA is another "must have". :)
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I will agree that the IndivisionAGA is another "must have". :)
A "must have" with a crt monitor if you dont want pixelized amiga games or demos =(
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I have the FastATA from Elbox and the damn thing is a bastard to fit and keep in the ROM sockets, even with cable ties. It is certainly fast and worth the money (and I also have a FastATA in my A4000), but unless you need blistering speed, I would honestly tell people to stick to a cheap 4-way buffered IDE device.
I will agree that the IndivisionAGA is another "must have". :)
I'm waiting for the Indivision AGA Mk2 to be released myself. Hopefully it will be this year.
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Ive been using an external scan doubler and it's been fine, though it doesn't use interlace modes well.
I'll likely grab an indivision when they come back out
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Dear friends:
All i wanted was to get advice about expanding my amiga 1200.
I did not intend to start war world III.
I appreciate all sincere feedback.
I decided to quit using my a1200 for 3d work,
I will instead use lightwave 3d on my pc
and the new aladdin pc version when it comes out.
So from now on I will mainly use my amiga 1200 for:
-painting -deluxe paint 4- and -digi paint-
-cartoon animation -moviesetter-
-game programming - amos pro-
As you see I do not require lots of computing power
and I already have a GVP jaws 030/50mhz + 32 mb ram.
I would like a new accelerator but as you see what I have is good enough,
but I would not mind expanding my ram to the max.
I will be completely dedicated to use my amiga for
painting, 2d animation, and game programming.
Thank you for your honest advice.
Rednova
For your uses, an 030/50 should be ample. Networking and USB would be the biggest things to get.
If you find a good deal for an ACA030/56, might be worth it (64 megs of RAM, and the RAM is faster too) but Im not sure its hugely worth it in your case.
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For your uses, an 030/50 should be ample. Networking and USB would be the biggest things to get.
He can network through the USB if he wishes just like I do by using a cheap PC Ethernet dongle.
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Preparation Time: 20 minutes
Cooking Time: 12 minutes
Makes 30
Ingredients:
- 125g butter, chopped
- 2 tsp vanilla essence
- 1 cup firmly-packed brown sugar
- 1 egg
- 3/4 cup (110g) plain flour
- 1/2 cup (75g) self-raising flour
- 2 tbs cocoa powder
- 125g milk choc bits
- 125g dark choc bits
Method:
- Preheat oven to 180°C. Line base of 2 baking trays with non-stick baking paper.
- Using electric beaters, cream butter, vanilla and brown sugar in a large bowl until smooth (do not overbeat). Beat in egg.
- Sift flours and cocoa together. Add flour mixture and choc bits to butter mixture, stir well to combine.
- Place tablespoons of mixture onto prepared trays, leaving about 6cm between each. Bake, in batches, for 12-15 minutes or until just firm on the surface. Stand cookies on tray for 5 minutes then transfer to a wire rack to cool completely.
- Cooking with children should be supervised by a mature adult ;)
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A "must have" with a crt monitor if you dont want pixelized amiga games or demos =(
aren't they supposed to be pixelated? ;)
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@rednova I think you've got a pretty extensive list of options now.
And you didn't start WW3, it was clear Franko was being ambushed with the intent of getting him banned, it was mentioned in a "secret" group that PMs were circulating to try to get him banned. So not your fault at all. I'm surprised the Moderator didn't see through the attempt but I guess they don't see PMs.... Unless, of course they were in on it...... (o:
Intergrity. LOL what a cracker.
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Dear Friends:
Even though my a1200 had many problems, it is still run good.
I just decided, instead of buying a new amiga (like a 4k or 3k)
I will save my money to expand my amiga 1200.
For example, I would like to get a:
-new accelerator
-external cd drive
and anything good I can find.
If I save my money, I can afford this expansion.
I will expand my amiga 1200 !!!
Rednova
It all depends on what you want to do with the miggy. My A1200 has 3.1 ROMs, a hard disk, 4MB FastRAM card and a Squirrel SCSI with a CD-ROM drive. Nothing spectacular, but it's a nice little system.
If you want something a bit more powerful, I'd consider a Blizzard IV or similar '030 card with a bunch of FastRAM and the SCSI kit for the CD-ROM drive. This would make a pretty good WHDLoad system.
If you're even more hardcore than that and want to go down the 'everything' route, you can still do that with an A1200. You could look at getting an Apollo or Blizzard '060 card and possibly even a tower conversion kit with a Zorro busboard for installing RTG and other fancy expansions.
As ever, it always comes down to "What do you want to do with the miggy?" :)
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@rednova I think you've got a pretty extensive list of options now.
And you didn't start WW3, it was clear Franko was being ambushed with the intent of getting him banned, it was mentioned in a "secret" group that PMs were circulating to try to get him banned. So not your fault at all. I'm surprised the Moderator didn't see through the attempt but I guess they don't see PMs.... Unless, of course they were in on it...... (o:
Intergrity. LOL what a cracker.
Oh those morons are targeting Franko as well now are they?
Welcome to the club Frank! :)
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Oh those morons are targeting Franko as well now are they?
Welcome to the club Frank! :)
Water of a ducks back mate... ;)
@Rednova
From what you've described what you want to do with your A1200 then the GVP030 board you have should fit the bill just nicely (though you can't expand it memorywise beyond 32MB, I've only got 4MB on mine and it served me well for years)... :)
If you really want a lot of memory then the Blizzard060 can go to 128MB or the BlizzardPPC/060 can go to 256MB, I have both and I honestly couldn't do without them for the stuff I do on my Amigas... :)
I'd say the best upgrades you can add to your machine are the SubWay USB Device and a FastATA MKIII Buffered IDE Board. The FastATA will allow you to add an external DVD/CD Re-Writer which is really handy for backing things up/ storing data or transferring stuff to and from a PC to the Amiga.
The SubWay USB is also great for transferring stuff just buy a cheap multi card reader and you can you any kind of cards you want (SD,CF,MemoryStick etc..) back and forth between computer or other devices. I would say don't buy a CD ROM (let alone a CD or DVD writer) to try and use with the SubWay as even though it can handle USB 2 devices it can only cope with USB 1.1 speeds and is no good for trying to burn disks... :)
Hopefully from all the advise you've got from everyone you'll be able to make you decisions now on what you want to do... :)
PS:Sorry for the ruckus caused in your thread, got a wee bit carried away and can only apologise for it... :)