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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: trekiej on March 20, 2011, 05:19:33 PM
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With FPGA-Arcade, X1000 and Natami coming, will Classic hardware get dumped?
Future Hardware
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Natami,X1000, FPGA-Arcade
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Classic Hardware
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With FPGA-Arcade, X1000 and Natami coming, will Classic hardware get dumped?
Future Hardware
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Natami,X1000, FPGA-Arcade
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Classic Hardware
You kidding, I've just spent the past 6 or 7 weeks and over a grand stocking up on old hardware from eBay, sold a lot of my old stuff off in the past and now wish I hadn't as it's cost me twice as much to replace it all... :(
The X1000 and the NatAmi will hopefully take pride of place alongside my VIC 20s, C64s and Amigas, would never be without a real Amiga even if my life depended on it... :)
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I still have my Apple II's and Vic-20.. Still use them..
While I might get new "Amiga" hardware, my classic hardware (including my Amigas) isn't going anywhere..
desiv
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Is any of this new stuff really ever going to come? All I can hear is heavy breathing... :lol:
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laugh
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Even if i am looking forward to buy the Natami, the real flavor is still the classic hardware itself and no nextgen, UAE or minimig.
Thanks Individual Computers for producing new pieces of hardware in 2011.
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With FPGA-Arcade, X1000 and Natami coming, will Classic hardware get dumped?
Future Hardware
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Natami,X1000, FPGA-Arcade
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Classic Hardware
No, not dumped, but some people with large collections of Classic Amiga hardware might sell part of their collections to purchase one or more of the new, soon to be released for sale hardware that you mentioned.
I'll bet that there are more Amiga users that have 2 or more Classic Amiga systems than there are that have only 1 Classic Amiga system and many Amiga users that have more than 5 Classic Amiga systems.
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Firstly I agree with save, is it coming? Really what is going on? If it ever happens will be as exciting, as important or as ground breaking as the original series of Amiga's?
I will NEVER get rid of my Amiga collection, I have my original A500 & A1200. (Off topic a bit - sadly I sold my original C-64C, I own one now, but it isn't the same serial number, it isn't the same computer!) I'm building up my collection, buy as much as my wallet will allow, which isn't alot at the moment (I blame the Labour ex-government, bankers, American bankers etc) I never got 'serious' when I was an Amiga owner, I was a 'serious' geek within PC (Win95/98/2000). I left school in '99, Amiga had gone really, and I didn't have much money, Amiga Format was closing it's doors, and I couldn't afford to upgrade my A1200. I was offered my first Win98 PC for my college IT course.....I took it........and I feel sad that I've never felt that excitement of owning a computer or being part of community that I felt when I was an Amiga user. I came back in 2001, but I had limited Internet, and no one was around. So in 2010 I came back again and now I will not look back, my retro, original Amiga's will be will me until I die, I will continue to expand my collection of models, and expand, repair, clean, and keep safe the ones I already own.
Long live Amiga!
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With FPGA-Arcade, X1000 and Natami coming, will Classic hardware get dumped?
Sounds like some wishful thinking there trekiej!!!:)
Although, I agree with Amigadave, as I believe some spare systems and boards may hit the market to make room for some new stuff.
Seriously considering releasing my extra 4000T mobo, Quikpak 4060, and Phase5 Blizzard 1260 back into the wild to secure one or more the aforementioned items.
The Dawg
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see my sig...my classics stay with me:afro:
of course big thanks to Jens and Individual computers for still making goodies for our classics today:)
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The Amiga hobby to me "IS" the old hardware and an attempt to get the most out of it.
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The Amiga hobby to me "IS" the old hardware and an attempt to get the most out of it.
Ditto.
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The Amiga hobby to me "IS" the old hardware and an attempt to get the most out of it.
I won't disagree that the Amiga hobby would not exist without the "old hardware", but it has grown to become so much more than just that now. The fact that the Amiga hobby is still so active and has influenced so many people, inspired so many new products over the years and continues to do so, is something that makes me proud to be an Amiga user. No other computer can make that claim after being discontinued for more than 15 years.
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Absolutely not. Theyre different kettles of fish. Ive had an AROS box that will eat X1000 for breakfast for a few years, and an amithlon box that does the same vs. any of the Sams (and the vast majority of G4 systems) and yet my classic Amiga is my favorite of the lot. Point being just because there might be something shiny and new doesnt make my love the the (classic) Amiga go away.
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I will buy FPGA Arcade and Natami when they come out, BUT my Classic Computer collection is not going anywhere i plan to pass them on to my kids (they already like them and are starting to play with them).
In fact i plan to buy a few more systems in the near future (still don't have a Vic 20, Apple IIC, TRS 80, Microbee and a few others i want).
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dannyp
You hit the nail on the head. I have many computers here. I run osx, linux, vista etc
Nothing beats my a1200 i built. My friends who are high up in the graphics and 3d fields love the classic stuff. When i show the Peg 2 with morphos they like that too.. but the wow factor is the classic stuff. Especialy when they see the spec and see it online! now thats cool.
As a side note I hope one of you guys are right that some of the amiga "collectors" (though I prefer hoarder) might sell some classic gear.
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Even today the Amiga, to me, is still advanced even with its faults.
I guess I had my frustrations with it.
It was before 3D video cards had came around and we was leaving the 8 bit world behind.
I was young back then and did not know a lot about the Amiga and did not have the money to put into it. Then 1994 came and went and it was hard to find some off the things I wanted.
I eventually did get me an A2000 with Opal Vision and 2386sx board. Later an A3000T was pieced together around 1997. I did not have the money for a Toaster card then.
I do not know if there is any more great things in store for computing. HMD's, Amiga 500 in pill, direct neural connection, holo-decks, who know what else.
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I think emulation and programmable logic is a great way to preserve old tech.
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People who are still using classic hardware in 2011 are probably the sort that will hold on to it no matter what new stuff comes along.
I sold my classic stuff off when WinUAE got "good enough" that I was using it much more than my real Amigas.
My A1200 spent years in storage and only came out for rare 30min stints, I thought it was better that someone who'd actually use it got to have it.
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I believe in the natami, but I'll still keep "the real deal" as long as she runs.
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runequester
you believe in natami? I havent seen one screenshot so far as i'm concerned still vapour
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runequester
you believe in natami? I havent seen one screenshot so far as i'm concerned still vapour
This is true, but they aren't asking for anybody's money, so hoping is free :)
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You kidding, I've just spent the past 6 or 7 weeks and over a grand stocking up on old hardware from eBay, sold a lot of my old stuff off in the past and now wish I hadn't as it's cost me twice as much to replace it all... :(
The X1000 and the NatAmi will hopefully take pride of place alongside my VIC 20s, C64s and Amigas, would never be without a real Amiga even if my life depended on it... :)
I just sold my last 1200 well one with any fast ram aghhhhhh
got 500 with hd and 3 megs ram maybe can get going
Also 2 broken 4000s and partridge in a ..... pear tree
well in away whould be good if didnt have modern made products mind you
I think still brand new amiga 1200s depends way u think something being new
The cost natami going be bloody high as much as a sam i say at least maybe more
Its got to be it limited run product just the same
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Is any of this new stuff really ever going to come? All I can hear is heavy breathing... :lol:
Wasint me honest if its behind you u got worry franko.....hehe kidding mate
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If I had a pretty impressive rig that ran bug free I would keep it. My A1200/040 was embarrassing compared to UAE for the programs that I mostly ran.
An FPGA Amiga will be good for all the old games I will play and be stress free too I hope.
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For my i still using..
I think i`ll never sell my Commodore and C= Amigas- now not many people can appreciate then if necesary one of my last wish will be to throw my Computers in my Coffin..
I do not think that soon there was something like was Amiga in 1985.. For my all are away of that.. we must remember Amiga was innovative.. And for now all are the same thing.. to be a nowdays Amiga would have to be something with holographic system..you know ..something revolutionary as it was Amiga back in time.
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Classics Rool Okay...
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Firstly I agree with save, is it coming? Really what is going on? If it ever happens will be as exciting, as important or as ground breaking as the original series of Amiga's?
I will NEVER get rid of my Amiga collection, I have my original A500 & A1200. (Off topic a bit - sadly I sold my original C-64C, I own one now, but it isn't the same serial number, it isn't the same computer!) I'm building up my collection, buy as much as my wallet will allow, which isn't alot at the moment (I blame the Labour ex-government, bankers, American bankers etc) I never got 'serious' when I was an Amiga owner, I was a 'serious' geek within PC (Win95/98/2000). I left school in '99, Amiga had gone really, and I didn't have much money, Amiga Format was closing it's doors, and I couldn't afford to upgrade my A1200. I was offered my first Win98 PC for my college IT course.....I took it........and I feel sad that I've never felt that excitement of owning a computer or being part of community that I felt when I was an Amiga user. I came back in 2001, but I had limited Internet, and no one was around. So in 2010 I came back again and now I will not look back, my retro, original Amiga's will be will me until I die, I will continue to expand my collection of models, and expand, repair, clean, and keep safe the ones I already own.
Long live Amiga!
Great progress has been recently made on Natami!
http://www.natami.net/knowledge.php?b=1¬e=33366&x=13
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Is any of this new stuff really ever going to come? All I can hear is heavy breathing... :lol:
:lol:
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What would be nice is basic amiga 1200 mobo, with all same connectors as a original. That way we could use our expansion cards, or maybe build new towered amigas, with mediator/aca030 etc.
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I'm holding on for the FPGAArcade initially, although I might also get a Natami once that's completed. I think programmable logic is a great way to preserve old systems - especially when the same board can have multiple different systems running on it.
I used to have an A1200, and then around 2000 I had an A1200 tower with PowerPC board and graphics, but I sold that because I didn't have any time to use it, so hopefully it went to someone who made better use of it. Of course back then I was also hopeful of that first AmigaOne board coming out fairly quickly - which it didn't.
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runequester
you believe in natami? I havent seen one screenshot
You haven't looked very hard, then.
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEbn7PQUncA)
(That's the LX card bringup. Thomas Hirsch has just a few days ago confirmed that the MX card now runs the LX cores, and previously confirmed there only appears to be a minor easily patched problem with the MX boards, so when they've been tested a bit more it's likely that this board will be the basis for their first production run with at most minor changes)
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Personally, with both the Natami and Replay boards nearing completion, I can't see myself buying a classic again other than for the case and keyboard (I'd love being able to stick a Replay board with the 68060 daughter board in an A1200 or even A600 case if it'll fit...). But that's probably since my sentimental attachment to the actual hardware has had quite a few years to cool off.
It'd be fun to have one, but I just can't see enough reasons to justify it compared to getting new compatible hardware.
But I'm sure lots of people who already own them will hold on to them as best they can no matter what...
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Only if people throw their original games in the bin could some ADF using alternative even come close to replace an actual Amiga :)
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I think emulation and programmable logic is a great way to preserve old tech.
Thats Right..
IN fact i want to thank to the developers for the excellent work they have done those developing emulators whatever machine/system/ plataform..