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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: carvedeye on March 16, 2011, 12:40:14 PM
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Hi all just installed my wireless adaptor into my miggy1200 using the prism2 driver now what do i need to do to start browsing the net on my a1200?
TIA
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What version of AOS are you using.
3.5 and 3.9 both come with tcip stacks and a browser
Otherwisr AmiTcp or Miamia on Aminet
For bowsing Ibrowse or AWeb
Have you got a Grpahics card in your miggy and extra ram, otherwise browsing will be poor experience.
What are the specs of your machine
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You also need to have SetPrism2Defaults in C: folder.
Then you need to alter User-Startup putting the following declaration:
C:SetPrism2Defaults SSID <Your WiFi Network's SSID> KEY <Your WEP Key>
Ofc you need to have an TCP/IP stack installed like MiamiDX, AmiTCP or Genesis to be able to connect to anything. :)
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If you have EasyNet (http://easynet.amigakit.com) you can select Prism2 from the Interfaces menu, type in the SSID and security settings and click SAVE, then ONLINE button.
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I'd recommend only enabling WEP for short periods of time on your wireless router or having a second one which you only switch on when using the Amiga.
WEP is easily cracked.
But I'm sure Amiga WiFi users already know this.
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I'd recommend only enabling WEP for short periods of time on your wireless router or having a second one which you only switch on when using the Amiga.
WEP is easily cracked.
But I'm sure Amiga WiFi users already know this.
Anyone using WEP should enable MAC address filtering too.
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Anyone using WEP should enable MAC address filtering too.
Why bother? :hammer:
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My info on Amiga wireless is quite useful: http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=26191&forum=25
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Well i am running AmigaOS 3.9 and have installed genesis etc I have uploaded a video to show how i am trying to configure it and hope you guys can help :) here is the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQRNV7-n_q4
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anyone? really want to get this setup :)
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Well i am running AmigaOS 3.9 and have installed genesis etc I have uploaded a video to show how i am trying to configure it and hope you guys can help :) here is the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQRNV7-n_q4
1. Device and unit are OK.
2. You don't need special configuration, so you should select "No" to that.
3. Unable to open device might be either because of the PCMCIA reset bug on A1200 or you haven't executed the SetPrism2Defaults command with correct options in s:user-startup or from shell before trying to use.
Quick and dirty fix for reset bug for one session would be to hotswap the card (unplug+plug while computer is turned on) and then execute correct SetPrism2Defaults command.
For permanent use check CardReset (http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/CardReset) and CardPatch (http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/CardPatch) commands in Aminet. And have SetPrism2Defaults in s:user-startup.
4. You have to know your local IP-address and enter it manually in the config.
Basically you must know unique IP-address you're going to use for Amiga (first three numbers same as on your other computers, but last number different than on other computers), netmask (same on all computers on your network), gateway (same on all your computers in your lan, usually the IP-address of the router) and nameserver (usually same on all your computers, might be the address of your router).
So, check your other computers settings to retrieve the needed info, if you don't know it already.
5. If you're unsure of the software issues, you might first try to get your Amiga online with this (http://jpv.wmhost.com/NetworkBootDisk/). When you get it working, you know everything is OK hardware wise and you can then start thinking what is wrong in your software setup.
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how do i execute correct SetPrism2Defaults command in user-startup?
sorry but im a complete noob with the amiga os :(
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could it be that i am using wap/wap2 instead of wep?
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could it be that i am using wap/wap2 instead of wep?
Go back to Mfilos' post and read it carefully. Also you really need to use WEP to be able to connect. Without using that command which Mfilos said u wont be able to do anything at all.
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You also need to have SetPrism2Defaults in C: folder.
Then you need to alter User-Startup putting the following declaration:
C:SetPrism2Defaults SSID <Your WiFi Network's SSID> KEY <Your WEP Key>
Ofc you need to have an TCP/IP stack installed like MiamiDX, AmiTCP or Genesis to be able to connect to anything. :)
I have genesis installed but where in the user-startup do enter the command?
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Why bother? :hammer:
Hiding ssid, filtering mac & turning off your router when you're not using it are basically all you can try to do when you're using wep. People can still hack it, but they have to be really bothered.
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Right heres what i havwe done so far i have added both cardreset and cardpatch to the c: directory and i also added it to the starup sequence i type the commands into the shell like this, if i have done this wrong please correct me.
C:SetPrism2Defaults SSID KEY <10 hex key>
C:CardPatch
C:CardReset
I then tryed running genesis again but there is no difference.
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well i decided to start a fresh install of amigaos 3.9 so i can start from scratch i will let you all know how i get on :)
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Right heres what i havwe done so far i have added both cardreset and cardpatch to the c: directory and i also added it to the starup sequence i type the commands into the shell like this, if i have done this wrong please correct me.
C:SetPrism2Defaults SSID KEY <10 hex key>
C:CardPatch
C:CardReset
I then tryed running genesis again but there is no difference.
Put CardPatch and CardReset before SetPrism2Defaults.
I myself have used it this way:
first lines in S:startup-sequence file are:
C:cardpatch
C:cardreset force
first line in S:user-startup file is:
SetPrism2Defaults SSID xxxxx KEY xxxx-xxxx-xx
I guess they all could be in user-startup too, but use fixes first.
Check also which encryption your network card supports. Some cards might support 128bit WEP, some only 64bit WEP and some no ecryption at all. For example Orinoco cards are common and its Gold version supports 128-bit WEP while Silver version supports 64-bit WEP.
Do the leds on the card flash around the time when CardPatch/Reset are executed?
well i decided to start a fresh install of amigaos 3.9 so i can start from scratch i will let you all know how i get on
Uhh.. this situation wouldn't have needed that :) You should have rather learnt some basics about AmigaOS. AmigaOS structure is so clean that you are never advised to reinstall the system. I for example have base installation from 1993 in my main A1200 even though I've heavily upgraded and updated it both hardware and software wise :) It's much more trouble to reinstall everything to fresh system than find the problem and fix only that.
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Put CardPatch and CardReset before SetPrism2Defaults.
I myself have used it this way:
first lines in S:startup-sequence file are:
C:cardpatch
C:cardreset force
first line in S:user-startup file is:
SetPrism2Defaults SSID xxxxx KEY xxxx-xxxx-xx
I guess they all could be in user-startup too, but use fixes first.
Check also which encryption your network card supports. Some cards might support 128bit WEP, some only 64bit WEP and some no ecryption at all. For example Orinoco cards are common and its Gold version supports 128-bit WEP while Silver version supports 64-bit WEP.
Do the leds on the card flash around the time when CardPatch/Reset are executed?
Uhh.. this situation wouldn't have needed that :) You should have rather learnt some basics about AmigaOS. AmigaOS structure is so clean that you are never advised to reinstall the system. I for example have base installation from 1993 in my main A1200 even though I've heavily upgraded and updated it both hardware and software wise :) It's much more trouble to reinstall everything to fresh system than find the problem and fix only that.
Could you possibly give me a step by step as what i need to do, do i run the commands through shell or do i edit the startup files directly sorry but im hopeless with workbench.
where exactly do i enter these commands in the startup lists?
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Could you possibly give me a step by step as what i need to do, do i run the commands through shell or do i edit the startup files directly sorry but im hopeless with workbench.
where exactly do i enter these commands in the startup lists?
You either run those commands in shell OR add them to startup scripts to be run automatically on each reboot. If you run them on shell, you have to do it after every reboot, which isn't very practical.
To run them on startup scripts you have to edit corresponding startup script with a text editor and add those lines manually.
Startup scripts reside in SYS:S/ directory, but it can be accessed more shortly with S: assign.
If you don't have better text editor installed, you can edit them with ED (bit clumsy default editor).
Open shell (from WB or press ramiga-e and type "cli"). Type "ed s:user-startup" to open editor with user-startup script file. Simple try would be to add all those earlier mentioned lines at the beginning of the file before other commands in that file. Each entry for its own line.
When it looks like this for example:
C:cardpatch
C:cardreset force
C:SetPrism2Defaults SSID xxxxx KEY xxxx-xxxx-xx
+other earlier lines on the file
Press "ESC" and "x" and "Enter" to save the file.
Reboot to take them in use.
I'm not 100% sure if those cardpatch/reset lines work on user-startup and that close to the SetPrism2Defaults etc or should they be executed in very early stage as I've done for some reason I can't remember anymore, so if it looks like it, you could add them to S:startup-sequence instead with similar way by editing the files.
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i started up the shell and i typed ed S:user-startup then hit enter and editpad started so i added
C:cardpatch
C:cardreset force
C:SetPrism2Defaults SSID XXXXX KEY XXXXXXXXXX
But this is what my user-startup loks like
;BEGIN ViNCEd
;Remove the;default console handler CON:
;then repeated in another language?
SetVNC Quiet Mount Override as CON:
;Remove the;gadgets with new function fromViNCEd that can be set with prefs tool ViNCEd.
;Then repeated again in the other language.
;StringSnip >NIL:INSTALL
;Remove the;assigns in pattern matching commands.
;Againrepeated in th eother language.
;TrueMultiAssigns
;ENDViNCEd
C:cardpatch
C:cardreset force
C:SetPrism2Defaults SSID XXXXX KEY XXXXXXXXXX
;BEGIN Genesis
assign AmiTCP: "Workbench:Internet/Genesis"
;END Genesis
Ithen ran the Genesis wizard and still no joy at connecting still getting the "Unable to open device DEVS:Networks/prism2.device unit 0"
where have i gone wrong?
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Hmm, I had a lot of trouble with this too, but got it working. What sort of PCMCIA card did you get? Or where did you get it?
You are doing things right, the error is telling us possibly a couple things:
1. your network card just isn't working / compatible with the prism2.device.
2. there is something not right with your card slot on the computer.
I had one from AmigaKit, and it never worked for me. Then I tried again with a different card and things went great.
So far you have not even come to any issues with WiFi, cause your driver can't even talk to the network card...
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I had same issues in the past but with a 3C589 interface. Couldn't get Genesis to open the port. Issue was CardReset/CardPatch.
Just add the following lines as first lines in the Startup-Sequence (or second if you have an ACA)
FailAt 11
C:CardPatch
C:CardReset TICKS 50
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If you get Genesis to open the port then you can configure SetPrism2Defaults since it's not needed for configuring the interface. It's just for pairing with the WiFi access point.
If it doesn't open again, it's more probable some sort of an hardware error. Either PCMCIA card isn't inserted fully in the socket, either the PCMCIA might have some pins bend from the inside (btw have you tried any other PCMCIA expansion like an CF Reader? Did it work?).
Also are you sure the card works with the Amigas? Any pictures?
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the card i have is an Amiga Wireless Orinoco Network Card which i bought from a member here on the forum who goes by the user name theformula (do any of you know him? he seems like a nice guy) i just want to get this thing up and running. :(
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the card i have is an Amiga Wireless Orinoco Network Card which i bought from a member here on the forum who goes by the user name theformula (do any of you know him? he seems like a nice guy) i just want to get this thing up and running. :(
Well there are no "Amiga" WiFi cards, but your wireless Orinoco network card, should be a good one. It's what I've been using, specifically:
Orinoco Gold 802.11b Wireless PC Card
I had my success with Miami, not Genesis. Try the TICKS thing mfilos said then report back...
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Yeah I also have an Orrinoco and really is a great card!
Put the lines I told you as first lines in S-S and report back :)
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i have circled a key that i do not know the key stroke for, i am using a standard pc keyboard if someone could tell what key(s) to press i would be very grateful.
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i have circled a key that i do not know the key stroke for, i am using a standard pc keyboard if someone could tell what key(s) to press i would be very grateful.
Uh try Shift + back slash key - \
Then you get that, it called the "pipe" character.
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I looked for this information in a couple of places and did not find anything yet, so I will add it to this thread, as it is related.
Has anyone tried a Prism2 compatible wireless card and Amiga 68k driver inside a G4 PowerMac in the Airport card slot while running MorphOS2.x to see if you could get a wireless connection for MorphOS2.x that way?
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I tried that but the key mustn't be working I will try another keyboard.
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Well i have given up, i just simply cannot get it to work i have edited the startup 3 times now and each time i edited it i ended up having to do a clean install of AOS 3.9
so if anyone would like to make me an offer for the wireless card then fell free to PM me.
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I looked for this information in a couple of places and did not find anything yet, so I will add it to this thread, as it is related.
Has anyone tried a Prism2 compatible wireless card and Amiga 68k driver inside a G4 PowerMac in the Airport card slot while running MorphOS2.x to see if you could get a wireless connection for MorphOS2.x that way?
The driver would need to be modified first, but it wouldn't be huge job. The original Airport card uses a Prism-II chipset too.
@carvedeye
You never told us whether you've ever used anything else in your PCMCIA slot. Bad wireless settings won't prevent the device from being opened by a TCP/IP stack.
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Well i have given up, i just simply cannot get it to work i have edited the startup 3 times now and each time i edited it i ended up having to do a clean install of AOS 3.9
so if anyone would like to make me an offer for the wireless card then fell free to PM me.
Don't give up, if an old geezer like me can get it working, any Amiga user should be able to also.
I haven't used my A1200's wireless connection for anything since before last year's AmiWest 2010 Show, but I remember I had to mess around a little to get it working. It is just not that interesting to me to use wireless networking on a Classic Amiga, even though I have an 060/50MHz w/256mb RAM & IndivisionAGA, surfing the Internet from Classic Amigas is still a slow and unsatisfying experience. I will still use it to transfer files when I need to move more than a few mb's of data, but other than that the wireless NIC on the A1200 won't see much use.
Heck, even die-hard Classic users like Franko use a more modern computer to access the Internet.
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Well i have given up, i just simply cannot get it to work i have edited the startup 3 times now and each time i edited it i ended up having to do a clean install of AOS 3.9
so if anyone would like to make me an offer for the wireless card then fell free to PM me.
Which board do you have in your trapdoor and how much RAM do you have installed on it?
I seem to recall that some older boards with >4MB Fast RAM cause the PCMCIA slot to malfunction.
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The expansion card I have is the Apollo 1230 lite lc with 8meg of ram.
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The expansion card I have is the Apollo 1230 lite lc with 8meg of ram.
There you go..
This card is NOT PCMCIA friendly when more than 4MB of RAM is fitted.
from:
http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showhardware.cgi?HARDID=107
desiv
p.s. I see some memory jumpers on the pic for that board. Perhaps you can disable some of the RAM using those??
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I don't see a problem with using unencrypted connection. You'll still be using SSL for sensitive data, i.e. online banking, paypal, etc. so that data will be encrypted.
The only problem IMHO might be someone using your internet connection or, worst case, trying to get to other devices on your network if you have any, like mediaserver or whatever... If these last things don't concern you (most internet sevices are unlimited nowdays anyway) it should be fine.
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The expansion card I have is the Apollo 1230 lite lc with 8meg of ram.
I have a £0.99 1-day auction for a much better card that works with more than 4meg of ram if you are interested.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270726747771
Thanks!
Zara
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There you go..
This card is NOT PCMCIA friendly when more than 4MB of RAM is fitted.
from:
http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showhardware.cgi?HARDID=107
desiv
p.s. I see some memory jumpers on the pic for that board. Perhaps you can disable some of the RAM using those??
Ah ha! good to know there was an answer to this mystery.
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There you go..
This card is NOT PCMCIA friendly when more than 4MB of RAM is fitted.
from:
http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showhardware.cgi?HARDID=107
desiv
p.s. I see some memory jumpers on the pic for that board. Perhaps you can disable some of the RAM using those??
so if i set the jumpers to use just 4 meg of ram will the 8 meg ram downgrade to 4 meg?
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so if i set the jumpers to use just 4 meg of ram will the 8 meg ram downgrade to 4 meg?
In theory, yes.
Not much fun using 4MB RAM though. :(
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so if i set the jumpers to use just 4 meg of ram will the 8 meg ram downgrade to 4 meg?
It's worth trying..
Sometimes that works.
It did with my Microbotics 8M RAM (not accel) card, but it was designed for that. It even had software to enable/disable the extra 4M if I wasn't going to use the PCMCIA.
I'd say give it a shot..
desiv
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So does anyone know what jumper settings i should use?
on the accelerator the settings look like this:
[--] RAM
[--] 4/8
(i hope you all understand the little pic i did)
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well i managed to set my accelerator to 4 meg but still no further forward :(
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@Amigakit
So if i was to purchase EasyNet would this fix the PCMCIA Slot problem that i am having with my accelerator?
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So if i was to purchase EasyNet would this fix the PCMCIA Slot problem that i am having with my accelerator?
No. It's the same driver.
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No. It's the same driver.
Actually, it might get it working... (And I stress might)
Piru's right, it won't change the PCMCIA / Accelerator issue, but if you have your card set to 4M and it still conflicts, then that's probably not your problem.
Might be more likely a config/software issue.
And even installing the same things differently can make a difference..
I wouldn't bank on it "fixing" your issue, but if you are at 4M with your Accel and it still isn't working, it feels more like software, or your WiFi card isn't working..
desiv
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Well i have given up, i just simply cannot get it to work i have edited the startup 3 times now and each time i edited it i ended up having to do a clean install of AOS 3.9
so if anyone would like to make me an offer for the wireless card then fell free to PM me.
Did you have pccard.library in LIBS:?
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And for WEP, on router settings authentication has to be open system, not shared key. Even when you use encryption key for transfer. Just been playing with different setups...
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Did you have pccard.library in LIBS:?
No? Where would i get hold of that?
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No? Where would i get hold of that?
Inside prism2.lha archive.
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Well i have just purchased an ethernet card and im hoping i have better luck than the wireless adaptor here is a link. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310347454826?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
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Ok just got my ethernet card today and need to know how i set it up, any info will be grateful :)
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Any one?
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Ok so i have just purchased EasyNet from amigakit and have also purchased some edo ram for my accelerator card as it is not pcmcia friendly with more than 4mb of ram. when they both come i will give it another try and see how i get on and get back to you all, fingers crossed it works, if it doesn't then i will be very sad :(
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Let me know how you go mate...if you cant get it to work I'm happy to help. I have been through the process several times so I'm sure I can offer some useful hints ;-)
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@Melbourneben
Thats brilliant need all the help i can get, will let you know when they come :)