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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: save2600 on March 13, 2011, 09:53:15 PM

Title: Looking for A1000 Phoenix SCSI chip & PAL
Post by: save2600 on March 13, 2011, 09:53:15 PM
Anyone have any info on this? I'm talking about the original Australian Phoenix mobo with the built in SCSI header. I'm considering purchasing the mobo, but it does NOT have the friggin' SCSI controller chip or necessary PAL. Were these ever released? Anyone know where I can get 'em??
Title: Re: Looking for A1000 Phoenix SCSI chip & PAL
Post by: save2600 on March 14, 2011, 11:50:55 PM
Nobody here knows anything about the SCSI controller and PAL chip for the Phoenix mobo? Literature back in the day all claimed it came standard with the board. I've now seen two boards that did not include these pieces. Did it never make it to market? I sure would have been pissed about spending $850 back in '91 (Grapevine Group) on a board that was little more than a Multistart Kickstart adapter and some extra Chip RAM  ;)
Title: Re: Looking for A1000 Phoenix SCSI chip & PAL
Post by: amigadave on March 15, 2011, 12:42:08 AM
Quote from: save2600;621598
Anyone have any info on this? I'm talking about the original Australian Phoenix mobo with the built in SCSI header. I'm considering purchasing the mobo, but it does NOT have the friggin' SCSI controller chip or necessary PAL. Were these ever released? Anyone know where I can get 'em??

Didn't they use the same SCSI chip as the A3000?
Title: Re: Looking for A1000 Phoenix SCSI chip & PAL
Post by: mongo on March 15, 2011, 12:50:18 AM
Quote from: save2600;621859
Nobody here knows anything about the SCSI controller and PAL chip for the Phoenix mobo? Literature back in the day all claimed it came standard with the board. I've now seen two boards that did not include these pieces. Did it never make it to market? I sure would have been pissed about spending $850 back in '91 (Grapevine Group) on a board that was little more than a Multistart Kickstart adapter and some extra Chip RAM  ;)


SCSI was optional on the Phoenix, as far as I can tell. The SCSI controller chip is just a standard NCR 5380, but without the PAL and the auto boot ROM, it's not going to do you much good.
Title: Re: Looking for A1000 Phoenix SCSI chip & PAL
Post by: save2600 on March 15, 2011, 12:54:15 AM
Quote from: mongo;621873
SCSI was optional on the Phoenix, as far as I can tell. The SCSI controller chip is just a standard NCR 5380, but without the PAL and the auto boot ROM, it's not going to do you much good.

So who's got the PAL and auto boot ROM?  Kickstart 1.3 just had a conference call with Kickstart 3.1 and both said they auto boot. Wait, that's still not good enough?  lol  

A majority (the 500-1000 alleged Phoenix owners out there) of these users did NOT have the SCSI port active? Again, all of the literature claimed it came standard for $850.

And there were discrete PAL and NTSC boards? No jumper setting for Agnus to default to one or the other? How about software switching between modes like on all other Amiga computers?
Title: Re: Looking for A1000 Phoenix SCSI chip & PAL
Post by: VingtTrois on March 15, 2011, 02:54:47 AM
Quote from: mongo;621873
SCSI was optional on the Phoenix, as far as I can tell. The SCSI controller chip is just a standard NCR 5380, but without the PAL and the auto boot ROM, it's not going to do you much good.


Sorry...perhaps a stupid question...do these chips are identicals?
- L5380PC (LOGIC) DIP40pins
- AMD5380 DIP40pins
- NCR 5380 PLCC
- NCR 53C80