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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: fishy_fiz on March 12, 2011, 03:34:06 PM
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I finally got ahold of a pcmcia network card for my a1200 (yay by the way :)), but am having trouble getting it to work. Im using (or trying to) MiamiDX. I can see the amiga on my router, but I cant seem to log onto the test ftp server Ive set up, nor can I even ping the address from my windows box. Networking is far from my strong point, but I have used amigs online many times before (have used genesis before now, soley cos it comes with OS3.9) and until now had managed to get things sorted eventually. This time though Im at a bit of a loss. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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Have you gave the devices IP addresses. Apparently, DHCP doesn't work reliably on Amigas.
pc: 192.168.0.1
amiga 192.168.0.2
etc etc.
also, have you opened port 21 on your PC firewall??
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Yeah, Ive set it to use a static IP and have assigned it an address within range (not using DHCP). Firewall isnt a problem either.
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Wireless or wired PCMCIA card?
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Wired
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have you set the gateway etc correctly?
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Pretty sure I have. I can see the amiga on my router at least, mbut that's about as much "success" as I seem to be having.
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Hi Tension,
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"Apparently, DHCP doesn't work reliably on Amigas"
That`s wrong, I use Miami and MiamiDX with DHCP and have had no probs, if anything it's easier.
I install Miami/MiamiDX and change the settings to DHCP and then go On-Line.
Regards, Michael
aka rockape
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I've always used DHCP with MiamiDX and not encountered problems... Amiga 1200 with 030 and netgear pcmcia card to a Dlink wifi router (wired) , amiga 4000t to a linkysys router, etc etc
Did you run MiamiInit? go DHCP if u can with miami init and make sure you choose the right options
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Pretty sure I have. I can see the amiga on my router at least, mbut that's about as much "success" as I seem to be having.
How can you see the Amiga on router? I don't know the way it would just "show up" somehow when not using DHCP...
Have you tried to hotswap the network card if it's the A1200 reset bug? Or have you installed reset bug fixes?
If it's working hardware wise, basically you just need to set unique IP address in the range for it and same netmask as your system uses and correct gateway address (router's) and nameserver address if/when you want to access net with name addresses (your router might act as dns proxy too). Then check pinging router from Amiga and Amiga from PC for example.
You could also test the system with NetworkBootDisk (http://jpv.wmhost.com/NetworkBootDisk/). It contains reset fixes and should be easier to set up than full TCP/IP stack. If you get it working with it, then you probably can guess what's wrong in your setup.
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The Amiga shows up in the list of connected devices on my modem/router page, but I cant ping the amiga from pc or vice versa. Additionally using ftp actually says, "conected to host", but will eventually time out. Im using static ip rather than using dhcp.
Im really at a loss. Things seem to be set up correctly, but there's obviously something amiss. Something like that network boot disk would be useful, but unfotunately I cant write to floppy disks on my amiga (drive is partially dead).
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Im using (or trying to) MiamiDX.
Go to Hardware, double click your ethernet card, click on SANA-II parameters and click on Query Device. The hardware address (a.k.a. MAC address) should change. It is important that the MAC address is not set to 00:00:00:00:00:00.
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Something like that network boot disk would be useful, but unfotunately I cant write to floppy disks on my amiga (drive is partially dead).
You can boot that disk from RAD: too.
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Go to Hardware, double click your ethernet card, click on SANA-II parameters and click on Query Device. The hardware address (a.k.a. MAC address) should change. It is important that the MAC address is not set to 00:00:00:00:00:00.
Thanks. The MAC address was wrong, although things still seem exactly the same. Cant ping the amiga from pc, cant ping router or pc from amiga. Only thing that seems to be happening is that my router/modem page is aware of the amiga (it's listed in the connections with correct mac address and ip).
This is really starting to annoy the heck out of me.
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When I had an A1200, I too used Miami and DHCP without problems. Networking to a PC aside for the moment, can you get your Amiga online at least with a direct connection from the modem to the PCMCIA card?
You may have to delete your current Miami config and start over with DHCP, etc. Using my cable provider, I couldn't simply take the ethernet cable off of one computer and plug it into the Amiga. I had to always reset my modem and get a new address in order for the Amiga to become online aware so to speak. Didn't have a router at the time.
And someone else already mentioned the reset bug fix which can be found off Aminet:
http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/CardReset
...have you tried that yet?
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Well this is part of why I wanted the network at all. So I can actually tansfer files to the Amiga. I have no internet software on the amiga apart from the ftp client built in Dopus Mag2. For now Ive simply been trying to connect to the ftp server I set up on the pc with all my amiga software. To actually transfer files to the amiga Ive currently had to copy files to a cd/dvd, copy to a temporary drawer on my amithlon box. Open my amiga, remove the harddrive, remove my amithlon ide cdrom drive, plug in a sata drive (only 1 port/2 ide drives are attachable to my amithlon box and sata devices dont work with amithlon(I use it simply to boot bootloader)) plug it into my amithlon box, change jumpers, boot amthlon, copy files accross via amiga shell (same names for amiga and amithlon partitions/devices so cant boot in a "normal" way), restore amithlon box to normal, plug the amiga harddrive back into amiga and put the machine back together.
Needless to say its a painful experience that Im more than a little sick of.
All that aside Ive simply been hot plugging/unplugging the pcmcia card to reset it.
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I know *exactly* how you feel about just wanting stuff like this to work. I'm having lots of "fun" that way with my MacMini and MorphOS every other day. Still can't get it to network or share the internet with my G5. :mad:
You gotta have a lot of patience, do some reading, ask some questions, learn how to interpret other peoples english and fiddle-faddle around 'til you accidentally get some of these features to finally work. Never underestimate the importance of deleting a config file and restarting your computer before having a go at it again either. I've experienced hauntings in AmigaOS too, where simply warm-booting the computer isn't good enough. Gotta turn it off for several seconds and then turn it back on. Prefs:envarc in RAM: can be a stubborn bitch. lol
Hang in there and experiment long enough and things start to come around, usually. Hopefully that happens for your before you start smashing things to bits. :lol:
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The Amiga shows up in the list of connected devices on my modem/router page, but I cant ping the amiga from pc or vice versa. Additionally using ftp actually says, "conected to host", but will eventually time out. Im using static ip rather than using dhcp.
Im really at a loss. Things seem to be set up correctly, but there's obviously something amiss. Something like that network boot disk would be useful, but unfotunately I cant write to floppy disks on my amiga (drive is partially dead).
Can you ping the router from the Amiga? And PC?
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Nope, cant ping the router or pc from my amiga, nor can I ping the amiga from the pc.
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Nope, cant ping the router or pc from my amiga, nor can I ping the amiga from the pc.
But can you ping the router from the pc?
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Yeah I can.
Additionally the router is aware of the amiga being on the network (which makes it weird that I cant ping it), and using query inside miamidx will also detect correct MAC address.
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fishy
Did you use Miami Init?? THEN did you IMPORT the settings?
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Yeah I can.
Additionally the router is aware of the amiga being on the network (which makes it weird that I cant ping it), and using query inside miamidx will also detect correct MAC address.
I'm still wondering how the router is aware of Amiga? If it would be connected with DHCP, then it would be shown in DHCP table. But when using static addresses it normally doesn't show up anything like that. Maybe it just sees it's connected hardware wise by connected cable and maybe MAC address, but I would guess it doesn't tell anything if you have correct TCP/IP settings or not. Or does it?
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Sort of. It's sometimes ghosted in my router, sometimes not, depending on whether or not there's a connection active. Seems a bit strange to me, but that's how it is.
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My old Netgear router would show any devices attached, whether using DHCP or not. My new Cisco one only shows DHCP clients connected.. Anyway, static IP or dynamic IP shouldn't matter. If the router sees it, the connection seems to be physically ok. What about your subnet mask? Normally you should have 255.255.255.0 on *all* devices on your network - router, MiamiDX, PC. Then the IP addresses for everything should have the first three parts the same - e.g. 192.168.1.x, and only the x should be different for each device.
Try set the Amiga to have a static IP first off as there are some minor issues with DHCP support under certain circumstances using MiamiDX. Give it an address outside what the router assigns (typically this might be 192.168.1.1-192.168.1.51, so try 192.168.1.100), set the subnet mask correctly and you should hopefully be able to ping the router...
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Have you tried a direct connection from A1200 PCMCIA to PC via crossover cable? I sruggled with my A1200 and my router, and the only way I got the network working was a crossover cable between my Mig and PC.
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my router/modem page is aware of the amiga (it's listed in the connections with correct mac address and ip).
Very bizarre. Sounds to me like its some obscure setting in Miami somewhere.
One other thing. Have you tried logging on to the router and pinging the Amiga from there? Have you made sure there isn't a Wired Isolation setting active on the router somewhere??
Well two things.
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did you get it sorted??