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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga Software News => Topic started by: mcb on March 09, 2011, 05:01:05 AM
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Amiga Forever 2011.1.0.0 released. This update includes improvements and fixes, including optimized interaction with WinUAE 2.3.1.0, which is now also available via the check for updates functionality. Other changes include saved state portability improvements, better handling of Amiga screen resolution changes (also fixed loss of input focus), easier content rescan after RetroPlatform Library update, and new advanced options for setting DirectX mode and enabling other tests. Amiga Forever 2011.1 is a free update to all 2011 customers. Additional updates to Amiga Forever 2009.2.2.0 and 2010.1.6.0 are being released for users of the 2009 and 2010 versions.
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Anyone else using AF2011 on Windows XP with Virtualbox 4 on Snow Leopard?
The Amiga mouse cursor jumps around randomly when I move the mouse, but works fine if I use RAmiga+Cursor Keys.
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Another hyper-boring release:
They change cosmetic stuff, add the latest WinUAE and resell it again.
I have Amiga Forever 2005 Premium Edition, and I dont see why I should buy this version. Nothing really new, content is still much the same.
Why dont they license more apps and games, just to give it more sense and appeal to customers?
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Thanks for the free update and your work.
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They change cosmetic stuff, add the latest WinUAE and resell it again.
I have Amiga Forever 2005 Premium Edition, and I dont see why I should buy this version. Nothing really new, content is still much the same.
Our focus too is increasingly on content, but that requires a good player software, capable of easily recognizing, managing, configuring content. Under the hood there are vast changes and improvements going on in the player. The fact that on the outside it appears to be simple doesn't mean that it doesn't take months of work each time.
The 2009.x, 2010.x and 2011.x updates released today are all free of course, as was the 2011 version for 2010 users.
Mike
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Anyone else using AF2011 on Windows XP with Virtualbox 4 on Snow Leopard? The Amiga mouse cursor jumps around randomly when I move the mouse, but works fine if I use RAmiga+Cursor Keys.
Maybe Virtualbox could better emulate the mouse, so that the guest receives not only meaningful absolute but also meaningful relative mouse move data. The Amiga needs relative data to move the mouse. This might be the cause of the problem.
Open shared.ini (see http://www.amigaforever.com/kb/13-175) and append this line at the end:
absolute_mouse=mousehack
Does it help?
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@ Cloanto
I bought Amiga Forever 2008 just to try it out one my sisters PC (cos I don't own a PC and never will). Now I ain't knocking Amiga Forever as it's a really neat emulator but it's not for me as I only use real Amiga Hardware, which brings me to my point...
Why are the ROM images encrypted on the DVDs/CDs and why do you and all the other who claim to pay for distribution licences for the ROMs do so, don't you think it's high time that the ROM image files should be free to distribute for genuine Amiga users to use with their Blizzard boards etc...
All this nonsense over not being allowed to download Amiga ROM Images from numerous sites on the web is really one sad joke. I mean if your honest about it then claiming such sites are committing piracy by making the ROM images freely available is just nonsense when you consider that the vast majority of folk using your software will actually be using "pirated" ADFs downloaded from the web to use on Amiga Forever...
Reckon it's time yourself & all the other companies who cling onto the ROM images & their distribution stopped this nonsense and put the ROM images into the public domain instead of trying to make a quick buck from them... :)
Cheers
Franko
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don't you think it's high time that the ROM image files should be free to distribute...
That's not up to us to decide. We, like others, just followed the rules to make Amiga Forever possible. I think the FAQ at amigaforever.com further covers this quite well:
http://www.amigaforever.com/kb/13-122
AROS is a free alternative, which we support too.
Mike
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That's not up to us to decide. We, like others, just followed the rules to make Amiga Forever possible. I think the FAQ at amigaforever.com further covers this quite well:
http://www.amigaforever.com/kb/13-122
AROS is a free alternative, which we support too.
Mike
Already read that, while I understand you've got a product to sell (and a it's a very nice one) it doesn't help when you pay for a distribution licence that only encourages whomever actually still claims to own the rights to the ROM images to keep profiteering from them... :(
Your product would sell equally as well if you didn't include the ROM images and they were (which they are anyway) free to download on the net. I really think all this cloak and dagger stuff and folk not daring to mention where they can be downloaded from is really childish and just plain daft to be honest... :(
It's way past time we all put a stop to this nonsense which over the years has done more harm than good to the Amiga name and put the ROMs & Workbench in the public domain where they belong... :)
Until the ROMs or ROM images & Workbench disk sets are actually manufactured again and sold at a reasonable price and are easily available then (which I doubt they ever will be) then I say good luck to all the sites who make them freely available to download and are of use to those of us who can actually use them... :)
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Support the Kickstart Replacement bounty and free them Roms, like Cloanto has $111
http://www.power2people.org/projects/profile/6
Another Note, thanks for the free update for 2010 users and thanks for another free update to your excellent program, I love RP how it pre-configs all my games.
I kind of agree with the contents, I've not really notice much new contents in a while, it would be nice if some how you could get permission to have Os 3.5 and 3.9 on their and maybe the experimental Walker Rom 3.2.
May be you could do a deal with Viva Amiga (the amiga film thats in the works) to included it as part of your box set that would be cool)
One final question if you can answer it, Workbench the name what was that all about, did / do you have plans for the Workbench Trademark, have you had any dealing with C=USA? and do you have any plans to have Aros apart of Amiga forever?
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Support the Kickstart Replacement bounty and free them Roms, like Cloanto has $111
http://www.power2people.org/projects/profile/6
Cool project. And Toni Wilen is working on it? Wow! Just donated.
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Support the Kickstart Replacement bounty and free them Roms, like Cloanto has $111
http://www.power2people.org/projects/profile/6
Odd... I don't see many names of those on this forum who harp on about how great AROS is contributing to the bounty... :rolleyes:
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Odd... I don't see many names of those on this forum who harp on about how great AROS is contributing to the bounty... :rolleyes:
Perhaps they use AROS on x86, amd64, PPC or ARM based machines, therefore 68k has no use for them?
Or, like me, they never donate to bounties, prefer ring to donate directly to programmers whose work they appreciate?
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Maybe Virtualbox could better emulate the mouse, so that the guest receives not only meaningful absolute but also meaningful relative mouse move data. The Amiga needs relative data to move the mouse. This might be the cause of the problem.
Open shared.ini (see http://www.amigaforever.com/kb/13-175) and append this line at the end:
absolute_mouse=mousehack
Does it help?
I'm going to try it now, thanks!
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Speaking of new content we offered to include the original version of Aladdin 4D (Draw 4D 1.0) and PDF manual with Amiga Forever some time ago. Hopefully Cloanto will take us up on it someday.
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I'm going to try it now, thanks!
It worked! :D
Thank you.
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Perhaps they use AROS on x86, amd64, PPC or ARM based machines, therefore 68k has no use for them?
Or, like me, they never donate to bounties, prefer ring to donate directly to programmers whose work they appreciate?
Or perhaps they're just a bunch of skinflints who's mouths are bigger than their wallets... :lol:
Personally I wouldn't donate to a "bounty" myself, to me if your going to write something for the Amiga you should just go ahead and do it, there is no excuse for asking folk to donate money for something that may never even come to fruition... :)
If someone writes something for the Amiga they can do so and release it for free, if they want to make some money from it then via the magic of the web they can try and sell it to those who are willing to pay, bounties to me are just simply something that shouldn't be allowed as at the end of the day writing a piece of code doesn't involve money... :)
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One final question if you can answer it, Workbench the name what was that all about, did / do you have plans for the Workbench Trademark
The use of "Workbench" in Amiga Forever is covered in some detail here:
http://www.amigaforever.com/kb/15-108
At some point during the various ups and downs of Amiga events it seemed more prudent to focus on using "Workbench" as an operating system name. It's not a new "plan", as Amiga Forever has for example been using "Workbench", "Workbench 1.3" and "Workbench 3.X" for years to indicate different operating systems versions, with the usual trademark legalese.
In an ideal world one would perhaps not need to worry about such things, but a project like Amiga Forever always had to deal with a diversity of real world challenges on different sides, ranging from potential risks that might become blocking factors, to expectations of all things being free. At the end it's only passion and support by other Amiga friends that makes us still move forward in spite of this, as there are a lot of headaches for a "market" that is a small niche. That's also why it feels good to see some support on forums like here. :-)
and do you have any plans to have Aros a[ ]part of Amiga forever?
Amiga Forever has supported and included third-party ROMs (e.g. Dialoga diagnostic system by Logica) and operating system "flavors" (e.g. AmiKit, AmigaSYS) for some time now, and I would expect it to allow more people to experience AROS in a similar way, if possible.
Mike
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Cheers. I tend to update my Amiga Forever package by buying a new version every few years. I have the 2011 package, so thanks for the free update.
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I agree the ROMs should have been available for free since a long time... At least the ROMs: I understand there can be legal problems with other software (ex.: ARexx, Translator,...).
It's been released almost 25 years ago... Fortunately AROS will soon fill the gap, and at the same time get a real use :)
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I'm sure most people can handle the $9.95 price.
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At the end it's only passion and support by other Amiga friends that makes us still move forward in spite of this, as there are a lot of headaches for a "market" that is a small niche. That's also why it feels good to see some support on forums like here. :-)
And it's great there is a product like Amiga Forever which still gets such excellent support from its creator. So many abandoned Amiga products (both hardware and software) have no official support remaining, but so many dedicated users, it's like post-apocalyptic computing sometimes.
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Or perhaps they're just a bunch of skinflints who's mouths are bigger than their wallets... :lol:
Actually your right, I have not supported this bounty yet, unless you count me buying Amiga Forever and then in turn Cloanto have supported the Bounty. But any way I have paid up $10 towards the efforts.
Plus also I have supported a number of other bounties (JIT for OS4, Sam For Developers, Send Amizilla to Amiwest, etc) I do what I can and only with bounties that do interest me, look very likely that they are going to achieve their goals and that I feel the developers needs/deservers the money to motivate them a bit.
Personally I wouldn't donate to a "bounty" myself, to me if your going to write something for the Amiga you should just go ahead and do it, there is no excuse for asking folk to donate money for something that may never even come to fruition... :)
I kind of agree with you, but I think most of these bounties are just extra little rewards to the developers who might of taken on the project regardless of the money any way, but it gives them a nice intensive to keep going and its a way to say thanks to the developers for their efforts.
If someone writes something for the Amiga they can do so and release it for free,
I agree and would only ever donate to project that will release the end product free and open sourced so that other people can either befit from it or continue on the project, like JIT for OS4 might help MorpthOS too.
if they want to make some money from it then via the magic of the web they can try and sell it to those who are willing to pay, bounties to me are just simply something that shouldn't be allowed as at the end of the day writing a piece of code doesn't involve money... :)
Most of these bounties are to port software that is already free and open source and so can not be sold, like Timberwolf and besides who expect to pay for a web browser or JIT emulator when these things are free on the other platforms. Also if the developers did charge for it their might be out cry, example what if the Kickstart Replacement Rom had a small fee, people would be calling for it to be made free and may even go as far as piracy and post it on a site for free for other to get, not that expect you to do such a thing:roflmao:
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Most of these bounties are to port software that is already free and open source and so can not be sold, like Timberwolf and besides who expect to pay for a web browser or JIT emulator when these things are free on the other platforms. Also if the developers did charge for it their might be out cry, example what if the Kickstart Replacement Rom had a small fee, people would be calling for it to be made free and may even go as far as piracy and post it on a site for free for other to get, not that expect you to do such a thing:roflmao:
While agree in part with some of the other things you said in your post, you couldn't be more wrong about me making the Kickstart Replacement Rom available on my site if it were to be released for a small fee... :)
My whole point about setting the ROMS free is quite simply because there is no easy way to purchase them legally anymore, other than buying Cloantos Amiga Forever, while it's a good product for those that need it, for those that don't need an emulator then it's not fair to have to purchase something you don't require and will never use in order to just get hold of the ROM images... :(
If the ROM images or the Replacement ROMs were available to purchase easily online by themselves at a fair price then I would gladly pay for them, but as long as this nonsense over licensing fees/copyright/IP and the stranglehold of a few greedy companies prevails in stopping the easy distribution of the ROM images then I shall continue to support and applaud sites that make them freely available... :)
I would apply the same arguments to the Workbench disk sets too... :)
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thanks for the reply did'nt think it would be seen.