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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: Tension on March 03, 2011, 10:17:22 AM
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http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbthread.pl/amiga/expand/186755
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No (http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=33288&forum=33&start=20&viewmode=flat&order=0#603311)
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Hmmmmm... lets think about this. It's on Moobunny and nowhere else but Moobunny. Do i really need to spell it out for you? :)
Off topic. Forgive my ignorance but how could the x1000 hardware fail? In todays age of generic pc's it shouldn't be too hard to make computer hardware that works should it? What i think is the delay of the x1000 is Hyperion still trying to port AOS4.x. I wouldn't be surprised if Aeon have already assembled all the 200(?) x1000's and are just waiting for Hyperion to do their part. Blaming failed hardware seems a bit far fetched to me somehow :rolleyes:
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http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbthread.pl/amiga/expand/186755
Probably!
Nearly every story that has been a 'bombshell' to the followers concerned, originated on Moo - not AW.Net, A.ORG or a press release.
A couple of days ago I would have dismissed it. However with threads on AW.Net, A.ORG and a resounding silence from Trevor - I would guess it is pretty much true.
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Probably!
Nearly every story that has been a 'bombshell' to the followers concerned, originated on Moo - not AW.Net, A.ORG or a press release.
A couple of days ago I would have dismissed it. However with threads on AW.Net, A.ORG and a resounding silence from Trevor - I would guess it is pretty much true.
From AW.Net - TrevorDick
"I normally refrain from posting in this type of thread, believing it does more bad than good and gives credence to the original "story". Suffice to say the A1-X1000 project is continuing as planned."
I'll get my coat then.
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Wow Colin, for someone who has 388 posts you really have an elegant way of posting :hammer:
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Wow Colin, for someone who has 388 posts you really have an elegant way of posting :hammer:
I don't normally get proved wrong quite so quickly!
It pays to read the whole thread!
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Probably!
Nearly every story that has been a 'bombshell' to the followers concerned, originated on Moo - not AW.Net, A.ORG or a press release.
A couple of days ago I would have dismissed it. However with threads on AW.Net, A.ORG and a resounding silence from Trevor[/U] - I would guess it is pretty much true.
From AW.Net - TrevorDick
"I normally refrain from posting in this type of thread, believing it does more bad than good and gives credence to the original "story". Suffice to say the A1-X1000 project is continuing as planned."
I'll get my coat then.
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=33288&forum=33&start=20&viewmode=flat&order=0#603311 (http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=33288&forum=33&start=20&viewmode=flat&order=0#603311)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xow_TISys7o/S_z_noAYxlI/AAAAAAAAAAs/3sUpEMfjR-M/s1600/epic-fail%5B1%5D.jpg)
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I don't normally get proved wrong quite so quickly!
It pays to read the whole thread!
I proved you wrong in less than one post in another thread. Statistically, in the posts I have seen from you -- two at this point -- you are 100% likely to quickly jump on the offense. I await more.
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Hmm.... must be a full moon to get so much moobunny spillover lately.
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http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbthread.pl/amiga/expand/186755
Someones imagination run wild, or net equivalent of "yellow journalism"
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I dont see how Varisys cannot deliver a proper working motherboard. That is why I am confident this rumor is pure BS.
If this rumour was instead based on the business viability of the X-1000, then I could have taken it far more seriously.
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I proved you wrong in less than one post in another thread. Statistically, in the posts I have seen from you -- two at this point -- you are 100% likely to quickly jump on the offense. I await more.
Oh yeah! You're the guy that thinks that Win95 didn't run atop of DOS 7!
You proved me wrong, eh? I don't think so. The only thing proved is that you have an inflated ego and an ignorance of Microsoft OS.
Hint: MBR>>MSDOS.SYS>>IO.SYS are the first three objects touched during a Win95 boot.
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It's moobunny how could it not?
Loved the comment:
"Good. We don't need the OS4 wannabee Amiga clone OS riding on MorphOS, AROS coat tails."
It sort of shows the community spirit.
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I heard Santa is delivering the X1000s personally...
Hmmmmm... lets think about this. It's on Moobunny and nowhere else but Moobunny. Do i really need to spell it out for you? :)
Off topic. Forgive my ignorance but how could the x1000 hardware fail? In todays age of generic pc's it shouldn't be too hard to make computer hardware that works should it? What i think is the delay of the x1000 is Hyperion still trying to port AOS4.x. I wouldn't be surprised if Aeon have already assembled all the 200(?) x1000's and are just waiting for Hyperion to do their part. Blaming failed hardware seems a bit far fetched to me somehow :rolleyes:
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Oh yeah! You're the guy that thinks that Win95 didn't run atop of DOS 7!
You proved me wrong, eh? I don't think so. The only thing proved is that you have an inflated ego and an ignorance of Microsoft OS.
Hint: MBR>>MSDOS.SYS>>IO.SYS are the first three objects touched during a Win95 boot.
My triple-boot system used lilo to boot Windows (and Linux and Solaris.) So, given your logic, Windows runs on top of Linux. Sorry, go browse through MSDN and Technet sometime, and also read some of Mark Russinovich's excellent articles on the architecture of Windows. Of particular relevance to our debate are the articles pre-Windows 2000 (which, by the way, was NOT the combination of the 9x and NT kernels: that was XP.)
Being sure of one's self does not equate to inflated ego. I am simply right. And this has now become off-topic and I will not continue here.
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Forget what Tever said, I have a picture
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b168/amigang/fight.jpg)
"I think I can take him" .......................................................... "I really regret saying Summer 2010 now!"
:)
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AmigaNG, good one!
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Looks like typical rabble rousing.
Im curious though, the posting talks about a pre-order. Did this actually occur ?
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From AW.Net - TrevorDick
"I normally refrain from posting in this type of thread, believing it does more bad than good and gives credence to the original "story". Suffice to say the A1-X1000 project is continuing as planned."
Phew... Thank feck everything is continuing as planned.
We're still ok for the summer 2010 release then??
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Phew... Thank feck everything is continuing as planned.
We're still ok for the summer 2010 release then??
:roflmao:
Well as I'm still stuck in 1986 I've only got another 24 years to wait then... :)
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So, given your logic, Windows runs on top of Linux..
You should go and learn logic.
No, it just means that instead of booting MS-DOS7 from MBR you are booting from LILO.
If you don't want a thread to go off-topic don't jump in and accuse people of being 'proved wrong' when it is you, yourself, who is wrong. :-)
Windows 2000(which, by the way, was NOT the combination of the 9x and NT kernels: that was XP.)
I didn't say it was. Windows 2000 was NT 5. The 9x and NT kernels were never combined. However XP was shipped with a very effective Dos/Windows9x compatibility layer.
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Error - The forum/topic you selected does not exist. Please go back and try again.
/me brings the popcorn
Also, lol @ XP using a hybrid NT/9x kernel.
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No, it just means that instead of booting MS-DOS7 from MBR you are booting from LILO.
If you don't want a thread to go off-topic don't jump in and accuse people of being 'proved wrong' when it is you, yourself, who is wrong. :-)
Windows 95 is a bit complex. While msdos is used during bootup it's not necessarily used when the O/S runs because windows 95 tries to keep in 32bit mode as much as possible (which msdos can't run in).
It's generally only for backward compatibility with 16bit dos device drivers loaded through config.sys & autoexec.bat that it has to fall back. You really notice the performance difference when this happens.
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Looks like typical rabble rousing.
Im curious though, the posting talks about a pre-order. Did this actually occur ?
Yes, although A-eon refer to it as a "Beta Test". A number of people paid 750 Euro to take part, back around November. A-eon announced in January that the boards would be delivered 1st quarter 2011, but so far it seems no-one has received anything. At least one "beta tester" got fed up with waiting and had their money refunded.
You can find complete details from the beta tester information pack and agreement documents below:
Info Pack:
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/9730/betatestletter1.png
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/2743/betatestletter2.png
"Legal" agreement:
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/6373/aeonbetatester1.png
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/8508/aeonbetatester2.png
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/5538/aeonbetatester3.png
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/9936/aeonbetatester4.png
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/1215/aeonbetatester5.png
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/6300/aeonbetatester6.png
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/6528/aeonbetatester7.png
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/7463/aeonbetatester8.png
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2034/aeonbetatester9.png
(oh, and by the way for the moobunny bashers, the source of the above:
http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/175779.shtml )
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http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbthread.pl/amiga/expand/186755
For this "news" missing only two old women of my town behind a window, and voila the gossip seems is more gossip.
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nm - wrong link! lol
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At least one "beta tester" got fed up with waiting and had their money refunded.
Who?
#6
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Who?
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JAHC of WookieChat fame.
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JAHC of WookieChat fame.
Link to where he said/indicated (what you posted)?
"At least one "beta tester" got fed up with waiting and had their money refunded."
#6
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Originally Posted by Amigaworld
Error - The forum/topic you selected does not exist. Please go back and try again.
/me brings the popcorn
I'll help you then (http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=33288&forum=4&start=20&viewmode=flat&order=0)
since you seem to want to suggest the post was deleted by staff.
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You should go and learn logic.
No, it just means that instead of booting MS-DOS7 from MBR you are booting from LILO.
Who uses LILO these days?! And, usually, unless you are weird, LILO (or its year 2000 equivalent GRUB) is installed in the MBR.
Just saying.
Plus, everyone knows that WinXP uses a proprietary blend of 7 monolithic and microkernel herbs and spices.
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Furthermore, who in their right mind would think that there is no hardware? This thread is the fail.
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Furthermore, who in their right mind would think that there is no hardware? This thread is the fail.
Then were is the hardware at? We are approaching Spring of 2011 and it's nearly a year behind it's much announced release date. So where is it?
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Link to where he said/indicated (what you posted)?
"At least one "beta tester" got fed up with waiting and had their money refunded."
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lol I'm always having to look stuff up! What would you guys ever do without me?
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?forum=33&topic_id=32910&post_id=594169&viewmode=thread&order=0#594169
Don't think I don't know what you're going to say, but if he could hardly afford to be in the program he wouldn't have spent the money. It's pretty clear what actually happened here.
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http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbthread.pl/amiga/expand/186755
Whether true or not, the designer of the X1000 Varisys has removed all statements related to that processor (including their own VM31).
Maybe Trevor should have picked a processor that was actually available for purchase, rather than an EOL component.
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lol I'm always having to look stuff up! What would you guys ever do without me?
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?forum=33&topic_id=32910&post_id=594169&viewmode=thread&order=0#594169
Don't think I don't know what you're going to say, but if he could hardly afford to be in the program he wouldn't have spent the money. It's pretty clear what actually happened here.
You know what I'm going to say? Wow.
Then there is no need for me to post then.
#6
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lIt's pretty clear what actually happened here.
Yes, of course: It seems to be clear that you are living in your own reality - only losley connected to rest of the planet. :D
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You know what I'm going to say? Wow.
Then there is no need for me to post then.
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No offense intended.
I'll miss your posts.
Yes, of course: It seems to be clear that you are living in your own reality - only losley connected to rest of the planet.
Which planet would that be?
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Then were is the hardware at? We are approaching Spring of 2011 and it's nearly a year behind it's much announced release date. So where is it?
Maybe it's with Commodore USA's PC64?
In response to an overwhelming demand from former Commodore users worldwide, Commodore USA's CTO Leo Nigro announced today that their new Commodore PC64 will be available for purchase this holiday season. Featuring an exact replica of the original beige chassis Commodore C64, this new addition to our lineup will include an Intel Atom 525 CPU with NVIDIA Ion2 graphics, 4GB DDR3 memory, 1TB Hdd, HDMI, DVD/CD optical drive (Blu-ray optional), dual-link DVI, six USB ports, integrated 802.11n WiFi, bluetooth and a 6-in-1 media card reader.
Sometimes things take longer than anticipated.
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I think there is a different question. If this isn´t true (and we have no evidence it could be), what is the motivation of these Moobunny guys spreading FUD like this.
Do they have stock in Genesi?
Are they just bitter people who want AEON to fail?
Or are they just lame trolls, who have given up on harvesting more popular websites?
I should have made this a poll.
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I should have made this a poll.
Lay off the polls please.
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I think there is a different question. If this isn´t true (and we have no evidence it could be), what is the motivation of these Moobunny guys spreading FUD like this.
Do they have stock in Genesi?
Are they just bitter people who want AEON to fail?
Or are they just lame trolls, who have given up on harvesting more popular websites?
I should have made this a poll.
Genesi? Why would they have any interest in the success or failure of AEON? They don't even have any interest in MorphOS any longer.
Bitter people? Maybe, but I would characterize them as malicious people that have nothing better to do with their free time and enjoy stirring up trouble for easy targets. AEON (& Hyperion), for whatever reasons, have left themselves open to many attacks by disbelievers because they have made so many BIG announcements of their "Most Ambitious Project", including failed delivery dates, support for dual processors/cores that was then backed away from until later, and then followed up with a lack of information regarding their beta testing program, which leads some people to wonder if any production of beta motherboards has even happened yet.
The style of their announcements to try to generate so much attention would have been okay if it had been done closer to an actual release date, but they made too much noise too far in advance and then have left the potential customers hanging for too long waiting for some real proof of production and progress on all of their claims.
Personally, I hope that all is still going forward and that they will soon break their silence and show a finished product, or at least the progress of the beta program. I want them to succeed, even if I can't afford to buy an X1000, I would like to see them make and sell as many of them as possible.
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One does not inspire confidence by saying everything is going according to plan when you are 9 months late. If everything is going as planed then you knew summer 2010 wasn't going to happen so why did you announce it?