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Title: Best way to remove socketed buster?
Post by: RMK305 on March 01, 2011, 10:24:10 PM
I've just obtained a Rev. 11 buster chip and was wondering what is the best/easiest way to remove the old one from the socket without causing any damage?

Cheers.
Title: Re: Best way to remove socketed buster?
Post by: slayer on March 01, 2011, 10:29:18 PM
I know they say use the proper tool but I never have... just be careful and use a very small tipped flat screw driver and pry adequately in one of the two corners that can be accessed. Try and support the corner as best you can or even place a pencil or similair width at the corner for leverage. Just gently but progressively work it up. You can alternative between the two corners but usually this makes the other corner dip downwards again.

Do remember to note the orientation of it though...

I just did this the other night actually...

Once I used a bit of rigid wire folded in half with the very ends crimped up by pliers, I've always meant to get the right tool just never bothered too, probably because I've never ordered a chip by itself...

Be aware of static electricity... but over the last 25 years simply ensuring I touch the inside casing of my computer I've never fried a chip yet...
Title: Re: Best way to remove socketed buster?
Post by: magnetic on March 01, 2011, 10:32:52 PM
YES PLEASE USE THE PROPER TOOL

You need a PLCC extractor:

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=29&products_id=417

Dont use a screwdriver or whatever bs ppl tell you. You may wreck the socket and/or the chip.
Title: Re: Best way to remove socketed buster?
Post by: Plaz on March 02, 2011, 12:23:17 AM
x2  Yes please use the right tool. You may live to regret cracking that 20+ year old plastic.

I've removed a hundred over the years and used serveral differnt tools to do it, but I still strongly recommend you use the right tool. I think I paid $3US for my last one. Worth it.

http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10001_10001_16766_-1

Plaz
Title: Re: Best way to remove socketed buster?
Post by: VingtTrois on March 02, 2011, 01:14:09 AM
In your opinion, what was the tool used here to remove this chip?

(http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/3671/dsc08821z.th.jpg) (http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/3671/dsc08821z.jpg) (http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/3130/dsc08819.th.jpg) (http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/3130/dsc08819.jpg)  (http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/3918/dsc08820c.th.jpg) (http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/3918/dsc08820c.jpg)

-AGNUS chip, plugged in a wrong way on his socket (MegaChip!!!) and with some pins like on these pictures! A butchery!!! :destroy:
Title: Re: Best way to remove socketed buster?
Post by: Zac67 on March 02, 2011, 07:17:40 AM
Would you mind showing us the socket?
;)
Title: Re: Best way to remove socketed buster?
Post by: Jiffy on March 02, 2011, 07:32:32 AM
Quote from: VingtTrois;618869
In your opinion, what was the tool used here to remove this chip?

A hammer. Obviously.
Title: Re: Best way to remove socketed buster?
Post by: VingtTrois on March 02, 2011, 09:08:46 AM
Quote from: Zac67;618904
Would you mind showing us the socket?
;)


When I took the pictures, I did not know that the chip was mounted in the wrong way and with some pins straight, instead of being bent inwards of the CHIP (like a real PLCC Chip)

(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4210/dsc08724v.th.jpg) (http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4210/dsc08724v.jpg) (http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/9889/dsc08720.th.jpg) (http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/9889/dsc08720.jpg)

Quote from: Jiffy;618905
A hammer. Obviously.


I think you're right :hammer:
A hammer used for inserted the chip, and a crowbar to remove it.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21WCYB8VM5L._SL500_AA280_.jpg)
Title: Re: Best way to remove socketed buster?
Post by: wawrzon on March 02, 2011, 11:04:35 AM
i have replaced buster quite w few times using a pin, a needle or whatever i just could get hold of. never broke anything.
Title: Re: Best way to remove socketed buster?
Post by: zipper on March 02, 2011, 11:33:11 AM
Lazy me, did a tool by bending steel wire into 90 degrees and cutting+filing it into appropriate shape. Buster changed in seconds. Well, I broke my Blizzard 2060 when prying the osc out with a screwdriver. Had to put a jump wire and so I learned some gentleness...
Title: Re: Best way to remove socketed buster?
Post by: Plaz on March 03, 2011, 03:55:18 AM
Quote from: VingtTrois;618869
In your opinion, what was the tool used here to remove this chip?


Madness.... that was removed from the socket, glued to the bottom of a sneaker that was then used to play soccer (football for our Euro fans). I've seen worse done, but that just screams of intentional torture. Amazing the pins are still all attached. At least there's hope in that.

Plaz
Title: Re: Best way to remove socketed buster?
Post by: Plaz on March 03, 2011, 03:59:31 AM
Quote from: wawrzon;618934
i have replaced buster quite w few times using a pin, a needle or whatever i just could get hold of. never broke anything.


A short list of the things I've succesfully used without damage.... paperclip, xacto blade, sewing needle, screw driver, multi-meter probe.....

I still would recommend you get the $3-4 tool as I've seen other less careful or skilled folks wreck their sockets.

Plaz
Title: Re: Best way to remove socketed buster?
Post by: TheBilgeRat on March 03, 2011, 04:17:36 AM
I remove buster chips with my mind.
Title: Re: Best way to remove socketed buster?
Post by: RMK305 on March 24, 2011, 10:03:31 PM
Just to update. I ordered the tool from Amigakit and swapped them over. The tool made it so easy the job was done in 30 seconds.
Title: Re: Best way to remove socketed buster?
Post by: magnetic on March 25, 2011, 12:57:24 AM
RMK

Great! Glad to hear you used the proper tool. With these vintage electronics its best to be cautions.
Title: Re: Best way to remove socketed buster?
Post by: RMK305 on March 25, 2011, 06:58:54 PM
Quote from: magnetic;624428
With these vintage electronics its best to be cautions.


That way my way of thinking. £8 is better than stressing over having to get the socket replaced or worse!