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Title: A2000 CD-ROM with A2091
Post by: Astra Dan on March 01, 2011, 09:48:34 PM
Hi guys.

I have an A2000 with a A2091 (with 2Mb fast RAM) running a 50M SCSI hard drive that boots to WB 2 quite nicely. I have had a 2x speed SCSI CD-ROM drive plugged in for years that's never been recognised by the system. I have just got hold of the A2091 Install disk, but not looked at it yet. I can transfer files and disk images from a PC to the A2000 using Amiga Explorer with no problems.

Basically, could someone explain as near step by step as possible how I would get the system to see the CD-ROM drive? Is it possible to get it to boot from it or does it always need drivers from inside WB first?

Many thanks for any replies.
Title: Re: A2000 CD-ROM with A2091
Post by: actung_bab on March 01, 2011, 10:22:56 PM
Quote from: Astra Dan;618794
Hi guys.

I have an A2000 with a A2091 (with 2Mb fast RAM) running a 50M SCSI hard drive that boots to WB 2 quite nicely. I have had a 2x speed SCSI CD-ROM drive plugged in for years that's never been recognised by the system. I have just got hold of the A2091 Install disk, but not looked at it yet. I can transfer files and disk images from a PC to the A2000 using Amiga Explorer with no problems.

Basically, could someone explain as near step by step as possible how I would get the system to see the CD-ROM drive? Is it possible to get it to boot from it or does it always need drivers from inside WB first?

Many thanks for any replies.
well first of all got have it connected to power source then connected to scsi cable
set jumper id to number higher than your hard drive . have termintaion on if its the last physical scsi device on the chain.
boot your machine check to see if light on front scsi drive is flicking before the machine fully boots to wb should be slight delay .
download idefix97 of the aminet and run find device after you installed it fully to your hard drive
get back to me after these steps
Title: Re: A2000 CD-ROM with A2091
Post by: Astra Dan on March 01, 2011, 10:37:04 PM
Thanks for that, I'll do that.
Forgot to say it's powered up, the access lights come on and it appears to spin the CD up when the Amiga is booting, but it's not visable in WB.
Title: Re: A2000 CD-ROM with A2091
Post by: Matt_H on March 01, 2011, 11:31:28 PM
You need a CD Filesystem installed. Look for AsimCDFS, AmiCDFS, CacheCDFS, or BabelCDFS.

You won't be able to boot from CD.


EDIT:
@ Astra Dan

Thanks for catching that. It's my HAM post :)
Title: Re: A2000 CD-ROM with A2091
Post by: Astra Dan on March 01, 2011, 11:34:55 PM
Thanks Matt. Hey look, your reply to me was your 4096th post. Kinda cool.
Title: Re: A2000 CD-ROM with A2091
Post by: Tenacious on March 02, 2011, 12:04:50 AM
Quote from: actung_bab;618807

download idefix97 of the aminet and run find device after you installed it fully to your hard drive
get back to me after these steps


How will he use idefix97?  This is a SCSI interface.  Does idefix97 improve SCSI?

@ Astra Dan

If you have OS 2.x, AmiCDFS might be your only free option.  It's on Aminet.

AsimCDFS is a little better (it handles long file names on Windows CD better) and comes with a CD player and Kodak PhotoCD ability.  It was (still is?) commercial software.  It can still be found on the web, too.

CacheCDFS comes with latter versions of the OS, but it always crashed my system.
Title: Re: A2000 CD-ROM with A2091
Post by: Astra Dan on March 02, 2011, 08:21:37 PM
Thanks for that, gives me a couple of options.
Title: Re: A2000 CD-ROM with A2091
Post by: Ral-Clan on March 02, 2011, 10:26:16 PM
Quote from: Astra Dan;618794
Hi guys.

I have an A2000 with a A2091 (with 2Mb fast RAM) running a 50M SCSI hard drive that boots to WB 2 quite nicely. I have had a 2x speed SCSI CD-ROM drive plugged in for years that's never been recognised by the system. I have just got hold of the A2091 Install disk, but not looked at it yet. I can transfer files and disk images from a PC to the A2000 using Amiga Explorer with no problems.

Basically, could someone explain as near step by step as possible how I would get the system to see the CD-ROM drive? Is it possible to get it to boot from it or does it always need drivers from inside WB first?

Many thanks for any replies.


Also, you need a later revision ROM chip on the A2091 for it to work with removable media devices, if I remember correctly.  You can usually find someone to sell you a revision 7.0 A2091 ROM here on Amiga.org or burn one for you for about $25.
Title: Re: A2000 CD-ROM with A2091
Post by: Astra Dan on March 02, 2011, 10:41:55 PM
Oh do I? That's a pain. Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: A2000 CD-ROM with A2091
Post by: Astra Dan on January 06, 2018, 01:43:08 PM
Hi bit of a thread update. I have a Gotek drive I could hook up to the 2000 to transfer files.
Do I need a later revision ROM 7 in the A2091?

Thanks!
Title: Re: A2000 CD-ROM with A2091
Post by: wlemonds on January 06, 2018, 02:41:47 PM
Gotek is a floppy device and doesn't connect to the 2091 or any scsi controller.
Title: Re: A2000 CD-ROM with A2091
Post by: save2600 on January 07, 2018, 03:00:41 AM
Quote from: ral-clan;619086
Also, you need a later revision ROM chip on the A2091 for it to work with removable media devices, if I remember correctly.  You can usually find someone to sell you a revision 7.0 A2091 ROM here on Amiga.org or burn one for you for about $25.

I'm using a SCSI CD-ROM drive just fine with my 6.6 ROM'd A2091...
Title: Re: A2000 CD-ROM with A2091
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on January 07, 2018, 03:36:58 AM
Quote from: save2600;834781
I'm using a SCSI CD-ROM drive just fine with my 6.6 ROM'd A2091...

This is a very old thread, but AFAIR 7.0 was required to use devices with LUN's (like SCSI card readers).  Mechy or someone like that would know for sure.  ;)
Title: Re: A2000 CD-ROM with A2091
Post by: Astra Dan on January 07, 2018, 11:55:04 AM
Quote from: wlemonds;834765
Gotek is a floppy device and doesn't connect to the 2091 or any scsi controller.

Sorry I meant I could use a gotek to get files from the internet onto the 2000.
Title: Re: A2000 CD-ROM with A2091
Post by: Astra Dan on January 07, 2018, 11:55:38 AM
Quote from: save2600;834781
I'm using a SCSI CD-ROM drive just fine with my 6.6 ROM'd A2091...


Could you tell me how you got it to work please? :)
Title: Re: A2000 CD-ROM with A2091
Post by: mechy on January 07, 2018, 06:44:48 PM
Quote from: Astra Dan;834789
Could you tell me how you got it to work please? :)




Just get ASIMcdfs 3.10 if possible, it will be your easiest,turn key install of a cd filesystem and will work with your combination fine.
you just need to know what device you have the cdrom set to during the install.
Title: Re: A2000 CD-ROM with A2091
Post by: mechy on January 07, 2018, 06:52:52 PM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;834783
This is a very old thread, but AFAIR 7.0 was required to use devices with LUN's (like SCSI card readers).  Mechy or someone like that would know for sure.  ;)

LUNs worked on older roms mostly,i think rev7 was bug fixes etc but its always good to have the latest roms. the 6.6 rom and up was pretty good. It does amaze me so many people are still using old buggy roms instead of upgrading, they are so cheap and or you can make your own eproms nearly free if you have the burner.
Title: Re: A2000 CD-ROM with A2091
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on January 07, 2018, 07:43:10 PM
Quote from: mechy;834800
It does amaze me so many people are still using old buggy roms instead of upgrading, they are so cheap and or you can make your own eproms nearly free if you have the burner.

:hammer:
Title: Re: A2000 CD-ROM with A2091
Post by: Astra Dan on January 07, 2018, 11:15:41 PM
Quote from: mechy;834800
LUNs worked on older roms mostly,i think rev7 was bug fixes etc but its always good to have the latest roms. the 6.6 rom and up was pretty good. It does amaze me so many people are still using old buggy roms instead of upgrading, they are so cheap and or you can make your own eproms nearly free if you have the burner.


I have a burner, could you point me in the right direction please? :-)
Title: Re: A2000 CD-ROM with A2091
Post by: mechy on January 08, 2018, 12:06:44 AM
Quote from: Astra Dan;834811
I have a burner, could you point me in the right direction please? :-)

try this for the 7.0roms:
eab.abime.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=16984&d=1214765066

makecd 3.2D is latest burning software i think, it can be found here:
http://www.estamos.de/makecd/
Title: Re: A2000 CD-ROM with A2091
Post by: mechy on January 08, 2018, 12:08:50 AM
Quote from: mechy;834800
LUNs worked on older roms mostly,i think rev7 was bug fixes etc but its always good to have the latest roms. the 6.6 rom and up was pretty good. It does amaze me so many people are still using old buggy roms instead of upgrading, they are so cheap and or you can make your own eproms nearly free if you have the burner.

6.6 roms had no support for over 1GB partitions iirc,using sfs or pfs got around this.