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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: XDelusion on March 01, 2011, 09:34:26 PM
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I tried using FastRAM off Aminet, but low and behold, I could not make sense out of the docs.
I know I pulled this off years ago, but am not having luck now.
All I want is RAD to go into my FAST RAM, and I want to be able to tell it not to remember its contents upon reboot.
P.S. I'll prolly be using BlizKick soon once I figure it out, I've heard that can cause issues...
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I tried using FastRAM off Aminet, but low and behold, I could not make sense out of the docs.
I know I pulled this off years ago, but am not having luck now.
All I want is RAD to go into my FAST RAM, and I want to be able to tell it not to remember its contents upon reboot.
P.S. I'll prolly be using BlizKick soon once I figure it out, I've heard that can cause issues...
http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/rad.html
A RAD drive is a virtual disk drive created from the Amigas memory. By default the standard RAD mount uses Chip Ram. The only way to change this is to get one of the alternatives available, such as the freeware utility, StatRam. This can be found on Aminet and in many PD libraries. StatRam allows the use of any other memory and, unlike the standard RAD disk, alters its size dynamically. If you have a Blizzard accelerator there is also a program available that specifically uses the Blizzards RAM fitted on the card.
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http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/rad.html
A RAD drive is a virtual disk drive created from the Amigas memory. By default the standard RAD mount uses Chip Ram. The only way to change this is to get one of the alternatives available, such as the freeware utility, StatRam. This can be found on Aminet and in many PD libraries. StatRam allows the use of any other memory and, unlike the standard RAD disk, alters its size dynamically. If you have a Blizzard accelerator there is also a program available that specifically uses the Blizzards RAM fitted on the card.
That is actually not true. RAD certainly is NOT limited to Chip Ram. All accelerators that add their memory to the system early enough (and thus get MEMF_KICK flag for their memory) can be used for the RAD. There are no tricks and hacks required.
There are however some hacks that enable the MEMF_KICK for some accelerators that don't normally have it.
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O.K. can someone please post a link to an alternative to RAD, or something that will patch it to use Fast RAM that is easy to use?
Or point me an a nice friendly alternative to Track Saver GUI that will support StatRam:
http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/statram31
I'd prefer to keep using Track Saver Gui though, it's so nice!!! :)
http://aminet.net/disk/misc/tsgui.lha
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O.K. can someone please post a link to an alternative to RAD, or something that will patch it to use Fast RAM that is easy to use?
Or point me an a nice friendly alternative to Track Saver GUI that will support StatRam:
http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/statram31
I'd prefer to keep using Track Saver Gui though, it's so nice!!! :)
http://aminet.net/disk/misc/tsgui.lha
Not sure what your machine is but on ALL my A1200s with fast ram RAD: automatically places itself in FAST RAM and only goes to CHIP RAM if that's all you have... :)
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I'm running a 1200 with Workbench 3.1
RAD goes straight for the Chip Ram for me. Sucks ass. Why can't we have more Chip RAM?! :(
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I'm running a 1200 with Workbench 3.1
RAD goes straight for the Chip Ram for me. Sucks ass. Why can't we have more Chip RAM?! :(
Odd... here's the RAD DOSdriver taken from one of my A1200s with 3.1...
/* $VER: RAD 40.1 (31.8.93)
*
* Recoverable RAM disk mount entry
*
* You can create different simultaneous recoverable RAM disks by creating
* versions of this file with different Unit values.
*
* The size of a recoverable RAM disk is controlled by the value of the
* HighCyl line. Increasing this value by 1 consumes an additional 11K of
* RAM. So the default value of 79 consumes around 880K of memory.
*/
Device = ramdrive.device
Unit = 0
Flags = 0
Surfaces = 2
SectorsPerTrack = 11
SectorSize = 512
Reserved = 2
Interleave = 0
Buffers = 5
BufMemType = 1
/* The LowCyl and HighCyl fields are controlled by tooltypes in the RAD icon.
*
* LowCyl = 0
* HighCyl = 79
*/
The tooltypes in the RAD.info (icon) file should be set as...
ACTIVATE =1
LOWCYL =0
HIGHCYL =79
And that should be all you need for your RAD: to be in your fastmem... :)
If it doesn't work for yours then I can only think that your RAM expansion does not autoconfig and this could be the problem, but to be honest I've never came across that before, what type of RAM expansion are you using... :)
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I'm running a 1200 with Workbench 3.1
RAD goes straight for the Chip Ram for me. Sucks ass. Why can't we have more Chip RAM?! :(
Well, my 4000D motherboard has a 8MB ChipRAM jumper.
(Please don't hit me.)
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I didn't even think it, just changed the tool types to create a 10 MB RAD to test OS 3.9 booting from RAD - which it did fine.
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Well, my 4000D motherboard has a 8MB ChipRAM jumper.
(Please don't hit me.)
I want one! :)
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Well, my 4000D motherboard has a 8MB ChipRAM jumper.
(Please don't hit me.)
You know that is a typo. I corrected my Mobo with a magic marker. It now says 98MB ChipRAM!!!!:roflmao:
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Not sure what your machine is but on ALL my A1200s with fast ram RAD: automatically places itself in FAST RAM and only goes to CHIP RAM if that's all you have... :)
If only people would read what more skilled people write before they reply. Piru has explained it already: if the accelerator's RAM survives a reset, then RAD can go to fast-RAM. If you've got a cheap accelerator, then RAD goes to chip-RAM because your fast-RAM does not survive a reset.
O.K. can someone please post a link to an alternative to RAD, or something that will patch it to use Fast RAM that is easy to use?
Or point me an a nice friendly alternative to Track Saver GUI that will support StatRam:
http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/statram31
I'd prefer to keep using Track Saver Gui though, it's so nice!!! :)
http://aminet.net/disk/misc/tsgui.lha
I wonder what you need this RAD for if you only use it to create ADFs. There are means to mount ADFs directly as virtual floppy drives without writing them to RAM.
For example
http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/xfs
http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/fmsdisk
http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/diskimage
http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/diskimage.m68k-aos
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If only people would read what more skilled people write before they reply. Piru has explained it already: if the accelerator's RAM survives a reset, then RAD can go to fast-RAM. If you've got a cheap accelerator, then RAD goes to chip-RAM because your fast-RAM does not survive a reset.
Ahem... and what make you think Piru is "more skilled" than me... cheeky bugger... :razz:
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Or point me an a nice friendly alternative to Track Saver GUI that will support StatRam:
Why do you think that TSGUI does not support StatRAM? Both SD0 and PC4 appear in TSGUI's device list and can be read and written to.
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Ahem... and what make you think Piru is "more skilled" than me... cheeky bugger... :razz:
His replies are of higher quality. Your posts usually contain only guesswork.
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I'm pretty sure that one of the options can specify what ram to use, perhaps flags.
As for the 8MB jumper, I believe it is there in case you do not find any 2MB module to use for chip, and want to use a 4MB or 8MB module instead. Only 2MB will show up in the system, regardless.
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His replies are of higher quality. Your posts usually contain only guesswork.
You really are a pretentious little git aren't you...
His posts and yours especially are generally written in a form that tries to boost your over inflated ego, by using as much technical wording as you can to try and make yourself look clever...
I on the other hand try to keep my posts to a level that folk in general will find easy to understand and solve their problems without trying to baffle them with huge numbers and technical jargon that is not required to solve the issue...
I'd always reckoned you were the type who likes nothing better than to make himself come across as a know it all and today you've just confirmed for me that is indeed the case...
As for guesswork, try again smart arse, 25 years of programming and using Amigas is a lot more than just guesswork, what's the matter don't you like it when someone else tries to give out advice and treads on your over inflated ego...:rolleyes:
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:rtfa:
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I'm pretty sure that one of the options can specify what ram to use, perhaps flags.
But the mask is internally always ORed with MEMF_KICK. Thus if you try to force MEMF_FAST and your fast memory doesn't have MEMF_KICK the RAD mount will fail.
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But the mask is internally always ORed with MEMF_KICK. Thus if you try to force MEMF_FAST and your fast memory doesn't have MEMF_KICK the RAD mount will fail.
Sure, but at least you tried. I can also imagine situations where one specifically want to use chip ram, even when there is plenty of fast ram.
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I tried using FastRAM off Aminet, but low and behold, I could not make sense out of the docs.
I know I pulled this off years ago, but am not having luck now.
All I want is RAD to go into my FAST RAM, and I want to be able to tell it not to remember its contents upon reboot.
P.S. I'll prolly be using BlizKick soon once I figure it out, I've heard that can cause issues...
What accelerator do you have?
As others have said, RAD can only use warmcapture RAM.
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You really are a pretentious little git aren't you...
His posts and yours especially are generally written in a form that tries to boost your over inflated ego, by using as much technical wording as you can to try and make yourself look clever...
I on the other hand try to keep my posts to a level that folk in general will find easy to understand and solve their problems without trying to baffle them with huge numbers and technical jargon that is not required to solve the issue...
I'd always reckoned you were the type who likes nothing better than to make himself come across as a know it all and today you've just confirmed for me that is indeed the case...
As for guesswork, try again smart arse, 25 years of programming and using Amigas is a lot more than just guesswork, what's the matter don't you like it when someone else tries to give out advice and treads on your over inflated ego...:rolleyes:
And Franko if your mission on Amiga.org is to become more annoying than doomy/aethist and a few others combined, you have excelled.
What is your problem. You are a very Angry/bitter/Annoying
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And Franko if your mission on Amiga.org is to become more annoying than doomy/aethist and a few others combined, you have excelled.
What is your problem. You are a very Angry/bitter/Annoying
As soon as I saw you were online I guessed it wouldn't be long before you opened your big gob...
No mission here pal, if what I say upsets your cosy wee world then tough luck...
I don't have a problem, seems to me you're the one with the problem, can't handle it when someone speaks the truth and says it like it is, go take a hike..
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There are ways of replying to people. Yes Piru can be abrupt and Thomas is very to the point. But there is the language/culture barrier as well.
It really does not seem to take anything to grind your gears.
Must look, there must be way so I dont see your pointless drivel
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There are ways of replying to people. Yes Piru can be abrupt and Thomas is very to the point. But there is the language/culture barrier as well.
It really does not seem to take anything to grind your gears.
Must look, there must be way so I dont see your pointless drivel
You've been here a lot longer than me and you don't even know how to put someone on your ignore list, not very bright are you...
You may not like my pointless drivel but you seem to read it often enough then go out of your way to respond to it, methinks your confused as well as being Welsh... :lol:
Still there is hope even for you his dudeness the dude has kindly started up a nice wee group where hopeless cases like you can go and get some help & rehab for your obvious addiction... :)
Nothing grinds my gears mate, just love sitting here and watching folk like yourself getting into a flap about mere words typed on a screen and who can't tell the difference between the real world and this place called the internet... ;)
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About 11 years I think.This site has gone through many revisions and board software in time I been on here. Never had the want to ignore people in the past. There is just something about your posts that makes me Angry. Must be my issue.
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About 11 years I think.This site has gone through many revisions and board software in time I been on here. Never had the want to ignore people in the past. There is just something about your posts that makes me Angry. Must be my issue.
Well I've said it before and I'll say it gain "never take anything I have to say too seriously"...
Sorry but I can't help you with your anger and I aint gonna change the way I write things to please anyone, best advice I can give is either put me on your ignore list (plenty of others have) or lighten up a wee bit and take my posts in the spirit there meant to be taken, ie: not too seriously and with humour... :)
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I'm pretty sure that one of the options can specify what ram to use, perhaps flags.
As for the 8MB jumper, I believe it is there in case you do not find any 2MB module to use for chip, and want to use a 4MB or 8MB module instead. Only 2MB will show up in the system, regardless.
Quote,
"As for the 8MB jumper, I believe it is there in case you do not find any 2MB module to use for chip, and want to use a 4MB or 8MB module instead. Only 2MB will show up in the system, regardless"
Hi,
Nope, dont even think of changing that jumper to the 8 Meg setting.
It has nothing to do with using SIMMs.
It was part of a motherboard development which never happened.
See http://wonkity.com/~wblock/a4000hard/mbjumper.html
"J213: Chip RAM: 2M or 8M
1-2 Closed: 2M Chip RAM (default).
2-3 Closed: 8M Chip RAM. This option was apparently for use with the never-released AAA chip set, and won't work in a normal A4000."
Regards, Michael
aka rockape
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RAD's icon info looks as it should.
And I'm using an Apollo 060 for my extra RAM.
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http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=619556&postcount=12
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=619561&postcount=14
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Must be my issue.
Nope, not just yours.
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Nope, not just yours.
Tough luck for you as well then mate... :)
Oh... I forgot you can't read this cos I'm on your ignore list... :roflmao:
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take my posts in the spirit there meant to be taken, ie: not too seriously and with humour... :)
keep going Franko :D
cheers !
Tom UK
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http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=619556&postcount=12
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=619561&postcount=14
Aghh, I recognise the names of some of this software! I think this will do it, will go home and test here in a bit. :)
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Resurrection time :D
I too was baffled by this. Sometimes RAD would go to chip RAM, sometimes it would go to fast RAM. After a little experimenting I found this:
Boot up, start Dopus, call RAD from Dopus, it will settle down in fast RAM, and stay there after reset.
This is with A603 1MB chip RAM board + Kipper2k's 4MB fast RAM board.
Hope it helps :)
Question for XDelusion:
Have you managed to set up FF0 to FF3 Drives ? I can seem to get it working :(