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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: cgutjahr on February 24, 2011, 07:07:49 PM
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IContain about to offer various Amiga branded devices.
"IContain announces Amiga branded TVs, cell phones and computers
When a certain Todd Kleperis contacted the Aminet team two days ago to "discuss your library of Amiga titles" and ask for "guidance as to how to work with the existing fan base", the initial reaction over over at Aminet was confusion. According to Kleperis, his company IContain is operating from China and about to revive the Amiga line of electronics. Why he choose to use Aminet as his first contact with the actual Amiga scene was not explained though."
Read the full story at amiga-news (http://www.amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2011-02-00054-EN.html).
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W T F ?
http://www.amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2011-02-00054-EN.html
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WTF indeed.
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We need a Terribad thread rating.
This is just getting too odd.
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The plot thickens.
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Oh, I see! They're "protecting" Amiga.
It all makes sense now!
(http://www.amiga.org/gallery/images/4306/medium/1_Screen_shot_2011-02-24_at_2.37.41_PM.png)
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So will we see a showdown between generic PCs branded as amiga versus generic PCs branded as amiga ?
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What the hell? So does that company that was supposed to be selling off rights to Amiga/Inc have something to do with this?
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WTF......Iconfused?
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Crazy story but I doubt we'll ever see any of this stuff.
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IContain resembles IWin (who remembers this hoax?)
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IContain resembles IWin (who remembers this hoax?)
The thought crossed my mind. Except this crap that they're hawking looks even less interesting.
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On the IContain "about us" page it has this Orwellian statement:
http://icontainprotects.com/icontain/
"Products implementing this technology are location aware and can be controlled remotely. When an account is in default or an item is deemed stolen the product can be located for quick retrieval or authorities can be notified in cases of theft. Also if an account is in default for lack of payment our technology will disable the electronics or electrical device."
I've been looking for a phone/computer/etc. that can be remotely controlled by a Chinese company! Thanks, IContain!
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AmigaAnywhere is starting to taking on a whole new meaning. In a couple years we'll have a dozen different Amiga platforms and OS's. You can have an Amiga desktop, Amiga cellphone, Amiga calculator, Amiga laserpointer, etc. Just don't expect your any of your "Amiga" devices to be even remotely compatible with any of you other "Amiga" devices. :(
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"When an account is in default or an item is deemed stolen the product can be located for quick retrieval or authorities can be notified in cases of theft."
Too bad the "Amiga" name doesn't contain this technology. I'd like to report it stolen, with current location unknown. :angry:
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AmigaAnywhere is starting to taking on a whole new meaning. In a couple years we'll have a dozen different Amiga platforms and OS's. You can have an Amiga desktop, Amiga cellphone, Amiga calculator, Amiga laserpointer, etc.
Amiga will rule the world! :)
well, had a quick google search on Todd Kleperis and he seems to be real. There's also a video from 2009 that I found. He also has a facebook page.
We'll see where this goes.
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Fresh popcorn (sweet and salted), chilled drinks, pancakes, ice cream!
This is a new episode for the famous AES:
The Amiga entertainment system.
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"major disagreement between McEwen and the late Kouri - perhaps the various Amiga parties in the US don't even agree who's entitled to hand out Amiga licenses or sell the actual IP"
WTF? can this get any weirder?
I want either Dave Haynie or David Pleasance to step out of the shower and tell me this is all a dream. But not together...oh no (that's one boing I don't want to see).
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Hey Leo I hear these guys are looking for a CTO:roflmao:
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IContain announces Amiga branded TVs, cell phones and computers
When a certain Todd Kleperis contacted the Aminet team two days ago to "discuss your library of Amiga titles" and ask for "guidance as to how to work with the existing fan base", the initial reaction over over at Aminet was confusion.
So, this makes them +1 up on CUSA, now doesn't it?:D
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IContain uses the Amiga typeface from the ESCOM aera, which to me is a mark of failure. I doubt that this will last for more than a year.
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IContain announces Amiga branded TVs, cell phones and computers
When a certain Todd Kleperis contacted the Aminet team two days ago to "discuss your library of Amiga titles" and ask for "guidance as to how to work with the existing fan base", the initial reaction over over at Aminet was confusion.
So, this makes them +1 up on CUSA, now doesn't it?:D
That's the weird part. If it were just the Chinese rent-to-own company it'd be easy to call it unquestionably a scam, but if it's a scam why would they care about working with the community? I am confused.
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OMG! WTF? This is getting too weird.
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This is as weird as it gets. "Protected by iContain"? WTF indeed!
They're using a boing ball on their webpage.
Is any of this legally sanctioned?
I wonder what Barry Altman is thinking about this?
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Ohhh Gawwwd, here we go again. This will be worse than the Commodore USA threads...
Last I heard, the pirates off the coast of Somalia owned "Amiga"
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Ohhh Gawwwd, here we go again. This will be worse than the Commodore USA threads...
MWA HA HA!!
Paging Dr. Franko, Dr. Franko, you have a telephone call....
:lol:
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If the price is good I wouldn't mind an Amiga branded tablet. When AROS becomes available it will be a real Amiga. :):):)
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(http://www.foodclipart.com/food_clipart_images/bag_of_buttered_popcorn_with_the_word_popcorn_on_the_bag_0515-0901-0618-0118_SMU.jpg)
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Heh. This is just becoming hilarious now.
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(http://www.foodclipart.com/food_clipart_images/bag_of_buttered_popcorn_with_the_word_popcorn_on_the_bag_0515-0901-0618-0118_SMU.jpg)
Pfft. For me, it's Amiga brand popcorn or nothin'.
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MWA HA HA!!
Paging Dr. Franko, Dr. Franko, you have a telephone call....
:lol:
And we just recovered from that I felt, this will trigger a total relapse...
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So, any idea how this fits with Commodore USA? This is a tad confusing. Is Amiga, Inc. just selling off right in every country around the globe?
Aminet should have told them, "Nope, we're fine. We got NatAmi & MiniMig, AROS, Amiga OS 4, Morphos, AmigaOnes, and UAE."
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The specs look a lot more interesting than the ones used by CUSA.
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They mentioned getting approval from Bill McEwon in that article. Did I miss something in the last 1-2 yrs? Last time I checked, he was involved with Efika. I know that he's been actively trying to get involved or even buy Amiga.
Ed
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(http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5299/amigapopcorn.jpg)
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So, any idea how this fits with Commodore USA? This is a tad confusing. Is Amiga, Inc. just selling off right in every country around the globe?
IIRC, didn't Escom sell rights to some Chinese companies? Such as Lotus Pacific, etc. Perhaps it's linked to one of those deals, rather than Amiga Inc?
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(http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5299/amigapopcorn.jpg)
Piru thats twice this year to my knowledge you have cracked a funny. You will ruin your rep :)
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Maybe AmigaAnywhere should be renamed, AmigaONAnything.
I wounder if they will be running Kickstart 6.0?
Its a real shame that the Amiga brand is most likely going to become what the Commodore brand has been, used on anything they think they can sell, two great names ruined.
IContain my excitement.
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Piru thats twice this year to my knowledge you have cracked a funny. You will ruin your rep :)
And its only February. Maybe its spring in Finland :)
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Maybe its spring in Finland :)
It has been something like -25ºC (-13 ºF) for couple of weeks now.
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It has been something like -25ºC (-13 ºF) for couple of weeks now.
Heatwave!
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"August 31, 2010: Commodore USA Announces Acquisition of Amiga Exclusive Worldwide Licensing Rights"
Doesn't seem too exclusive now does it?
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It has been something like -25ºC (-13 ºF) for couple of weeks now.
and normal service is rusumed :)
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Jay Miner must be spinnin' in his grave now...
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The specs look a lot more interesting than the ones used by CUSA.
I find that rather odd statement since they haven't released very much tech information on their Amiga series.
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I find that rather odd statement since they haven't released very much tech information on their Amiga series.
Easily gleaned by going here:
http://www.intel.com/
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Easily gleaned by going here:
http://www.intel.com/
Barry was also interested in http://www.genesi-usa.com so Intel does not have a lock on C=USA's product line.
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At least Amiga Inc have finally found a business plan that seems to be working for them, even if it is only hawking the Amiga name to anyone with e few grand to spare and a product to sell but no name to put on it.
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So, any idea how this fits with Commodore USA? This is a tad confusing. Is Amiga, Inc. just selling off right in every country around the globe?
I suspect this is McEwen Inc, forcibly or otherwise, simply trying to settle it's debts. Pure speculation on my part though...
I suppose now we can expect Amiga Power Tools, Amiga Cola and Amiga Condoms... wait? Don't we have some of those already?
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"August 31, 2010: Commodore USA Announces Acquisition of Amiga Exclusive Worldwide Licensing Rights"
You know I find it very funny that Leo the "chief technical officer" of commodore usa can comment on all kinds of stuff, insult forum users, spew misinformation, hype and nonsense under 7 different accounts...
Yet when something like this happens they have no comment or they don't comment on here. I would think this is a rather important development. Especially since they were claiming they had exclusive worldwide licensing rights.
I belive there is a company selling anyone with a couple of bucks the right to use the name. Perhaps the belived that no one else would bother.
Still, its a bold faced lie saying you have exclusive worldwide rights to the name. And still, no comment from CUSA?
Yeah that figures.
Steven
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"August 31, 2010: Commodore USA Announces Acquisition of Amiga Exclusive Worldwide Licensing Rights"
Doesn't seem too exclusive now does it?
It seem they only got 'exclusive' rights to use the Amiga name on "AMIGA branded “AIO” (All In One) keyboard computers" - that still leaves the door open for Amiga-branded computers not built into a keyboard, and anything else that doesn't fall into that category.
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MWA HA HA!!
Paging Dr. Franko, Dr. Franko, you have a telephone call....
:lol:
Sorry I only just got the message on me beeper (couldn't find it, turns out I'd dropped it inside me last patient before I stitched him up...) :(
Thread Diagnosis - TERMINAL, DO NOT FEED OR RESUSCITATE... ;)
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It seem they only got 'exclusive' rights to use the Amiga name on "AMIGA branded “AIO” (All In One) keyboard computers"
And none of their Amiga branded machines are of the all-in-one style... *boggle*
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IContain about to offer various Amiga branded devices.
"IContain announces Amiga branded TVs, cell phones and computers
When a certain Todd Kleperis contacted the Aminet team two days ago to "discuss your library of Amiga titles" and ask for "guidance as to how to work with the existing fan base", the initial reaction over over at Aminet was confusion. According to Kleperis, his company IContain is operating from China and about to revive the Amiga line of electronics. Why he choose to use Aminet as his first contact with the actual Amiga scene was not explained though."
Read the full story at amiga-news (http://www.amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2011-02-00054-EN.html).
Cool! :)
The good Amiga news come one after another now! Things seems to be moving in more than one front! Maybe 2011 *will be* the Year of Amiga after all? :D
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And none of their Amiga branded machines are of the all-in-one style... *boggle*
Just because YOU haven't seen it, doesn't mean they are not doing AIO Amigas. I may not buy one of their All In One Amiga(s) (I'll wait for a big box), but the initial design does look pretty sweet. Even more so if they act on my suggested changes to it, of course. ;-)
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Rent-To-Own your very own Amiga, you have to admit it has a nice ring to it.
:)
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Whatever the liscense was for..
There goes 1/2 of cusa's customers. I can't imagine they would be very happy about another company selling amiga branded computers. I mean after the millions they spent on research and development and all...
Steven
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Sorry I only just got the message on me beeper (couldn't find it, turns out I'd dropped it inside me last patient before I stitched him up...) :(
Thread Diagnosis - TERMINAL, DO NOT FEED OR RESUSCITATE... ;)
You really need to secure the Amiga naming rights in Scotland! :)
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Yeah guys, Barry confirmed to me that this is Mr. Bill's doing. Or as he put it "wild Bill strikes again…".
I don't know that he's real happy with this, but i don't think he's taking it too seriously.
"pipe dreams at best…let's see…."
I kinda feel sorry for him in this instance. He decides to take the risk of marketing computers with a recognizable trademark that's had some negative press in the last decade, and the guy he licenses the trademark from lets a Chinese company label appliances with the same trademark.
Now even Barry Altman has been abused by Mr. Bill.
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Whatever the liscense was for..
There goes 1/2 of cusa's customers. I can't imagine they would be very happy about another company selling amiga branded computers. I mean after the millions they spent on research and development and all...
Steven
IContain is for RTO items. You don't make your payments, the item stops working. That is what this is all about. So I don't see any significant issues with C=USA Amiga line, do you?
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IContain is for RTO items. You don't make your payments, the item stops working. That is what this is all about. So I don't see any significant issues with C=USA Amiga line, do you?
No, I don't think it really interferes with CUSA's plans either. Its just dumb. A rent to own tv "protected by Amiga" that shuts off if you miss payments? I doubt we'll even see this technology in the US.
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Its just dumb. A rent to own tv "protected by Amiga" that shuts off if you miss payments? I doubt we'll even see this technology in the US.
Reminds me of the DIVX "degradable DVD" format (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIVX) the movie industry wanted to push a while back. The only people stupid enough to go with rent-to-own schemes, particularily with something that depreciates as fast as consumer electronics, are the trailer-park monkeys that use rent-to-own as a "free stuff until it's repossessed, rinse, lather, repeat" service already. Just a shame this scam gets added to the list of things the "Amiga" label has been abused by...
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I wonder if "Wild" Bill would be interested in granting me the rights to use the Amiga name on a new line of Hydro-Ceramic waste disposal systems?
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It has been something like -25ºC (-13 ºF) for couple of weeks now.
That explains how Piru gets so much programming done! It is just too damn cold to do anything else.
I live on top of a mountain in sunny and usually warm Southern California, but we are expecting a foot of new snow by Saturday followed by temperatures below zero, but it was almost 55 degrees today.
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I wonder if "Wild" Bill would be interested in granting me the rights to use the Amiga name on a new line of Hydro-Ceramic waste disposal systems?
Apparently, if you've got the money you can license the name for about anything. Buy why...
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IContain resembles IWin (who remembers this hoax?)
/Plaz raises a hand.... and maybe an extra finger
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Amiga will rule the world! :)
Yeah... reminds of the same kind of feeling watching night of the living dead. 'Cept this time all the zombies are named Amiga.
Plaz
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Barry sent me a few pictures of the products he readying for introduction. They look pretty good.
"Our mold for the C64 is in production, and we will be able to ship end of March/early April."
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RTO biz = Bottomfeeders. Almost as bad as the scum that do short-term loans.
No surprise that they'd try to put some polish on the turd that is their business by assuming a deceased brand and passing of their yum-cha OEM products as something more than they are.
Scraping rock bottom.
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Protected by a huge bag of popcorn
:roflmao: Gives new meaning to "there's a prize in your box of craker jax"
Plaz
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Whats funny about this is that the people licencing/borrowing the Amiga name are being played even worse than the sad schmucks that buy in to the Rent-to-Own schemes.
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You really need to secure the Amiga naming rights in Scotland! :)
AmigaScotland.com is in the pipeline... ;)
But I'm still working on AmigaUK.com and CommodoreScotland.com and so it will have to take a back seat for a wee while... :)
Just one thing though neither AmigaUK.com or CommodoreScotland.com will ever try and con the Amiga community with false hopes and promises... :)
We are dedicated to giving everything away for free... :)
(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af79/frankosamiga/Funny/AmigaFreedom03.jpg)
"We arra People..." :D
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No, I don't think it really interferes with CUSA's plans either. Its just dumb. A rent to own tv "protected by Amiga" that shuts off if you miss payments? I doubt we'll even see this technology in the US.
Like OnStar? The technology is already here for autos: http://vehicle-tracking-gps.com/wordpress/2010/01/19/obdii-port-gps-tracker-for-buy-here-pay-here-auto-dealers/
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Like OnStar? The technology is already here for autos: http://vehicle-tracking-gps.com/wordpress/2010/01/19/obdii-port-gps-tracker-for-buy-here-pay-here-auto-dealers/
The technology exists, yes, but OnStar uses it to serve the customer, not control them. There's a huge difference between buying something advertised as "our technology lets you disable your stuff if it's stolen!" and "our technology lets us disable your stuff if you don't pay up!", and good freaking luck trying to fool all but the densest of consumers into not seeing the difference.
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Who knew AmigaAnywhere meant there would be a host of companies using the Amiga brand?
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@commodorejohn I would've thought the US home appliance rental market would be their primary target.
And who says it'll be an openly advertised "feature"? The user fails to pay the bill and the product "mysteriously" stops working within a week. Options = Pay the bill (+ reset fee) or send it back.
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And who says it'll be an openly advertised "feature"? The user fails to pay the bill and the product "mysteriously" stops working within a week. Options = Pay the bill or send it back.
I suppose that's possible, but the way they're openly flaunting it at the moment seems to defeat any attempts at secrecy. o_O Anyway, how long would it take for word-of-mouth to spread even if they did manage to keep it a secret?
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I can see it now. You are working on your 'Amiga' computer (which probably just has Windows on it) when all of a sudden it shuts down. Is it a virus? Did it overheat? Did your video card just catch fire? No! You forgot to pay your bill, you schmuck!
slaapliedje
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Just because YOU haven't seen it, doesn't mean they are not doing AIO Amigas.
Yes, it does...
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Apple does this kind of branding too. Behold Apple Water.
http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/s.php?f=022011&p=iwater.jpg
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Old Bill just wants to maximize his profit in a wrong way.
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(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/HathBrad/INTERNET%20DOWNLOADS/ANIMATED%20GIFS/ScarJo_popcorn.gif)
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And its not even april the 1.
btw I likke boobs more.
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"number6" posted a link on another site:
Statement from Barry Altman, CEO Commodore USA, LLC (http://www.commodore-amiga.org/en/forum/27-commodore-usa/1813-another-company-that-has-licensed-the-amiga-name-#1826)
I agree that this may be beneficial for both Commodore and IContain, since it can only help boosting brand awareness (though the brand values (what it "stands for") may be even more confused). Two "workers" will achieve more work in total, than one alone.
Of course raising brand awareness is also good for Amiga Inc, since their quest at the moment is to sell the whole shebang. Which of course is why they suddenly lets licensor's in! ;)
Speaking of that, if Barry Altman really has some serious money in the bank (as has been suggested), why don't he simply place a bid on the Amiga IP? It must be *a lot* cheaper now, than when Amino bought it, right...?
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Apple does this kind of branding too. Behold Apple Water.
http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/s.php?f=022011&p=iwater.jpg
Anyone who buys bottled water needs their ruddy head examined, bottled water has to be the biggest con of all time... :)
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Anyone who buys bottled water needs their ruddy head examined, bottle water has to be the biggest con of all time... :)
Maybe but unlike you franko i can't just walk outside and pick up a hand full of muddy snow and through it into a bowl on the kitchen table and wait for it to melt so i can drink it. Also downunder we are more sophisticated in that we don't drink our own bath water unlike they do in the uk :)
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Maybe but unlike you franko i can't just walk outside and pick up a hand full of muddy snow and through it into a bowl on the kitchen table and wait for it to melt so i can drink it.
You kidding me...
The amount of rain you've had down under recently, I was surprised not to see Nohas Ark floating by on me telly screen... :)
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Also downunder we are more sophisticated in that we don't drink our own bath water unlike they do in the uk :)
If we did drink our own bath water we would have all died of thirst by now cos we only have bath once a year... :)
Stick to sheep dip, plenty of that in upside down land and I hear it gets you drunk as well... ;)
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I'll definitely try that. But hey, you have something even better - squirrels bum! Simply catch one by the tail, lift up overhead and enjoy.
p.s. i have heard that squirrels bum is a great alternative to ciggies :hammer:
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I'm not sure sniffing pesticide is a good thing. If you really want to sniff something may i recommend a squirrels bum. I've heard it's a great alternative to ciggies. Let me know how it works out :hammer:
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I'm not sure sniffing pesticide is a good thing. If you really want to sniff something may i recommend a squirrels bum. I've heard it's a great alternative to ciggies. Let me know how it works out :hammer:
Um... not sure how we got to sniffing things from talking about drinking things, but then I'm never quite sure how you arrive at some of your conclusions... ;)
Anywhoo, sniffing squiggles bums is not easy as they tend to scurry around a lot and they've got very sharp teeth and claws, plus lighting them up can be a bit of a bugger when they're damp... :)
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Amiga branded knives and guns to go after the idiots selling rights for the Amiga IP to use on all this unrelated bollocks is here by requested.
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I want an Amiga branded toilet ... and why not ... while at it ... even Amiga branded toilet paper.
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Um... not sure how we got to sniffing things from talking about drinking things, but then I'm never quite sure how you arrive at some of your conclusions... ;)
OK follow me here. I didn't know what it was so i googled it and it said it's where they spray sheep with whatever. Notice the word 'spray'. A spray is a gas. You can't drink a gas. You can only sniff it or inhale it. Silly Billy :hammer:
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OK follow me here. I didn't know what it was so i googled it and it said it's where they spray sheep with whatever. Notice the word 'spray'. A spray is a gas. You can't drink a gas. You can only sniff it or inhale it. Silly Billy :hammer:
Aerosol? Isn't this taught at school level chemistry?
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Below is a link to Barry Altman's response to the IContain situation:
http://www.commodore-amiga.org/en/forum/27-commodore-usa/1813-another-company-that-has-licensed-the-amiga-name-#1829
Thal
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OK follow me here. I didn't know what it was so i googled it and it said it's where they spray sheep with whatever. Notice the word 'spray'. A spray is a gas. You can't drink a gas. You can only sniff it or inhale it. Silly Billy :hammer:
I take it the day you went to school it was shut... :(
Sheep dip as any upside down land person will tell you is a liquid you can either dip yer sheepies in or spray them with... :)
What on earth makes you think a "spray" is only a gas, you can spray liquids too. Methinks your either as daft as brush or living downwind of a sheep farmer who's been spraying his sheepoids recently and you've inhaled too many micro droplets of the sheep dip "Spray" that was in the air... :)
Anywhoo don't go googling things it only rots your brain cell and it's my turn to use it next... ;)
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Below is a link to Barry Altman's response to the IContain situation:
http://www.commodore-amiga.org/en/forum/27-commodore-usa/1813-another-company-that-has-licensed-the-amiga-name-#1829
Thal
Please don't post links to such drivel... :(
It only serves to make me get me voodoo doll out... :python:
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Anywhoo, sniffing squiggles bums is not easy as they tend to scurry around a lot and they've got very sharp teeth and claws, plus lighting them up can be a bit of a bugger when they're damp... :)
I propose Amiga branded Electronic Smokeless Squirels!
The cool thing is that they could look like boing ball and only emit a "harmless" vapor.
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I propose Amiga branded Electronic Smokeless Squirels!
The cool thing is that they could look like boing ball and only emit a "harmless" vapor.
With Amiga licensing, the possibilities are endless!
It's almost like the 1980s all over again, but crappy.
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I propose Amiga branded Electronic Smokeless Squirels!
The cool thing is that they could look like boing ball and only emit a "harmless" vapor.
Started on the prototype, think I may have overdone it on the sheep dip though... :eek:
(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af79/frankosamiga/Funny/BoingBallSquirell01.jpg)
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The technology exists, yes, but OnStar uses it to serve the customer, not control them. There's a huge difference between buying something advertised as "our technology lets you disable your stuff if it's stolen!" and "our technology lets us disable your stuff if you don't pay up!", and good freaking luck trying to fool all but the densest of consumers into not seeing the difference.
It sure helps the Repoman in getting the vehicle back if you do not pay up.
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How can you spray a liquid? hmmm lets think about that. Fly spray coming out of a can - is that a gas or a liquid? I think the Franko should have payed more attention in school. He can't tell the difference between a spray and a squirt :hammer:
How did that squirrel get so fat :confused:
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I had an idea for new Amigas! We need Amiga branded fishing equipment!
(http://www.wafu.ne.jp/%7Eyaz/gallery/Squirrels1997q1/sp97_010_med.jpg)
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@Kesa
By your reckoning, a Fireman would "squirt" water onto a fire then?
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No, I don't think it really interferes with CUSA's plans either. Its just dumb. A rent to own tv "protected by Amiga" that shuts off if you miss payments? I doubt we'll even see this technology in the US.
Yeah, your Amiga tablet will call over a Predator drone to begin its strafing runs on your front lawn. They look pretty cool in all white and red checkers. That's the 30 day late notice.
:)
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How can you spray a liquid? hmmm lets think about that. Fly spray coming out of a can - is that a gas or a liquid? I think the Franko should have payed more attention in school. He can't tell the difference between a spray and a squirt :hammer:
How did that squirrel get so fat :confused:
Ah gei up wur you ya numptie... :rolleyes:
The squirrel got so fat because I "SPRAYED" him with "LIQUID" plant growth... works a treat on squirrels... :)
I'd better write to the manufacturer of this "LIQUID" plant growth that comes as a "LIQUID" in a "SPRAY" bottle and tell them they're doing it wrong... ;)
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You've got two things here. The Amiga name and the logo. The Amiga name is currently not trademarked for toilets, squirrels or most non-computer items. However you can't use the logo, that remains in the hands of (what appears to be) a few dozen select companies....
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So now your telling me that a squirrel is a plant? OMG you should have paid more attention in school.
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You've got two things here. The Amiga name and the logo. The Amiga name is currently not trademarked for toilets, squirrels or most non-computer items. However you can't use the logo, that remains in the hands of (what appears to be) a few dozen select companies....
Slap a boing ball sticker on whatever you want, start a company called CommodoreExBritishColonies, sell red and white adult toys attached to generic Chinese PC clones and call them virtual-reality simulators.
You know...for the ladies.
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I wonder if "Wild" Bill would be interested in granting me the rights to use the Amiga name on a new line of Hydro-Ceramic waste disposal systems?
A little boing ball printed on the ceramic would be a good target to aim at.
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Barry sent me a few pictures of the products he readying for introduction. They look pretty good.
"Our mold for the C64 is in production, and we will be able to ship end of March/early April."
Is it still Atom based, or has he moved on to the better AMD Fusion platform?
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Hmmm... is it just me or is there a distinct lack of mods round here these days... :nervous:
Wonder if they've gave up and went to an Atari site... :)
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
Following negotiations with Nicholas, I am pleased to announce I have secured exclusive rights to the 'Commodore', and 'Amiga' names in the UK and Ireland. I have a £200,000,000 advertising budget and wish to work wit da community.
Don't worry.
You won't feel a thing.
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
Following negotiations with Nicholas, I am pleased to announce I have secured exclusive rights to the 'Commodore', and 'Amiga' names in the UK and Ireland. I have a £200,000,000 advertising budget and wish to work wit da community.
Don't worry.
You won't feel a thing.
He he... I'm gonna nick em from you and use them on my Scottish sites... :lol:
We've got our own laws ere and everybody flouts them, and we love a good fight, past few hundred years have been boring since those soft southerners in England gave up trying to invade us... :)
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
Following negotiations with Nicholas, I am pleased to announce I have secured exclusive rights to the 'Commodore', and 'Amiga' names in the UK and Ireland. I have a £200,000,000 advertising budget and wish to work wit da community.
Don't worry.
You won't feel a thing.
your plans will interfere with my line of official Amiga "virtual Fabio" devices. I'm going to hire some dull-eyed mouthbreathers to talk up my product and insult the community and wedge them against you!
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HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHH
Another slap in the face of the fans...
You can have an new Amiga but you will have to rent to own at top dollar! hahahaha
Here in the states we have Rent A Center... if they follow the same model by the time you're done the cost is nearly 2X the manufacturer suggested retail price.
Beats fighting the auction snipers on Ebay I guess.
Hey maybee A inc or Ip onwer of the month should consider porting Amiga Os to Arm or Intel... or just acquire Aros and make it offical... nah... that would result in actual product.
Actually it would be cool if the Amiga brand were like HannsG or some of the other buget brands that actually offer decent build quality and value for dollar.
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Is it still Atom based, or has he moved on to the better AMD Fusion platform?
I'm sure at this late date and the number of mobos they had to preorder it's still atom based.
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So Barry Altman thinks that having the Amiga name associated with a RTO scam as well as a line of generic PCs will help matters? Yeah, sure, that won't cause confusion at all. Maybe other companies can get in on this brilliant new revolution in marketing! Just imagine: Chrysler bathrobes! Pfizer children's toys! Tampax candy cigarettes!
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I'm sure at this late date and the number of mobos they had to preorder it's still atom based.
Custom motherboards - that's a good sign. Not too bad if it is Ion based.
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
Following negotiations with Nicholas, I am pleased to announce I have secured exclusive rights to the 'Commodore', and 'Amiga' names in the UK and Ireland. I have a £200,000,000 advertising budget and wish to work wit da community.
Don't worry.
You won't feel a thing.
You will hear from Commodore Amiga Scandinavia's lawyers immediately!
Once he's done smoking weed that is.
Please hold.
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Custom motherboards - that's a good sign. Not too bad if it is Ion based.
It could be worse, it could be GMA based. I will continue to hold out hope that as this year progresses, C=USA will look at AMD Fusion as an alternative to Ion2 mobos for the C64x.
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It could be worse, it could be GMA based. I will continue to hold out hope that as this year progresses, C=USA will look at AMD Fusion as an alternative to Ion2 mobos for the C64x.
Any future AIO keyboard design will likely have a laptop based mobo, which means they can use mobile nVidia GPUs.
They have decided to go Intel only and they'll probably stick to that.
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Any future AIO keyboard design will likely have a laptop based mobo, which means they can use mobile nVidia GPUs.
They have decided to go Intel only and they'll probably stick to that.
Well if they're sticking with Intel Atom then they're rats clinging to the sinking ship.
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The AIO looks nice, if only it weren't an Atom
(http://icontainprotects.com/wp-includes/images/amiga_ro-series.jpg)
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The AIO looks nice, if only it weren't an Atom
The screen is off because the photographer didn't pay up ;P
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Well if they're sticking with Intel Atom then they're rats clinging to the sinking ship.
No, the next AIO project is Amiga 500x and it will not have Atom inside. But it will be Intel. It will be also based on a laptop mobo.
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No, the next AIO project is Amiga 500x and it will not have Atom inside. But it will be Intel. It will be also based on a laptop mobo.
awesom.
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The AIO looks nice, if only it weren't an Atom
(http://icontainprotects.com/wp-includes/images/amiga_ro-series.jpg)
Looks like an uglified iMac to me.
iMac is sleek and sexy. This thing looks like the fat cousin. :hammer:
tj
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Would anyone like some Amicola with their popcorn?
(http://amigairc.amigarevolution.com/amicola.jpg)
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Looks like an uglified iMac to me.
iMac is sleek and sexy. This thing looks like the fat cousin. :hammer:
tj
Probably a chinese knock-off of iMac ;)
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"... Amiga branded TVs, cell phones and computers ... IContain is operating from China"
Really. The more I think about this the more nightmarish it becomes. I thought the "Walker" was a low point in AMIGA history, but this could be a reason to walk away in shame and never mention the Amiga-brand again.
Come on! An Amiga branded phone and TV? They don´t realize that Amiga really was no brand to the consumers. It was a machine. A machine that did all a PC did, but went beyond the narrow perspective of business and embraced a technology that was both efficient and effective. Not any machine with these traits, but a specific one.
Amiga is not like Apple. Amiga is not like Porsche.
Amiga is like C64. Amiga is like Coke. Amiga is like Levis 501.
You can´t sell Coke toothpaste or cereals. You can´t sell 501 bride dresses.
CUSA has an Emulator and will have something that is at least a bit like Workbench, which sounds like they are at least trying to do, what Amigas do. But calling any cell phone Amiga is just plain ridiculous.
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come on! An amiga branded phone and tv? They don´t realize that amiga really was no brand to the consumers. It was a machine. A machine that did all a pc did, but went beyond the narrow perspective of business and embraced a technology that was both efficient and effective. Not any machine with these traits, but a specific one.
+2^256
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Any future AIO keyboard design will likely have a laptop based mobo, which means they can use mobile nVidia GPUs.
They have decided to go Intel only and they'll probably stick to that.
Barry made it clear C=USA is not locked into Intel for the long term. Yes, Intel/nVidia is the base line for now but beyond that is not written in stone.
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I think the keyword is "BRANDED" as in slapping the Amiga logo on anything.
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Really. The more I think about this the more nightmarish it becomes. I thought the "Walker" was a low point in AMIGA history, but this could be a reason to walk away in shame and never mention the Amiga-brand again.
Have to agree with this 100%. I have been watching the Amiga community for the past 10 years from a distance and really was quite impressed by the relative advancements that were made. With this kind of thing going on, we actually should be really glad that the various NG products don't carry the Amiga nameplate. Slapping a Boingball on a Chinese TV, how much worse can it get?
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Slapping a Boingball on a Chinese TV, how much worse can it get?
Slapping a Boingball on a Vietnamese TV?
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Have to agree with this 100%. I have been watching the Amiga community for the past 10 years from a distance and really was quite impressed by the relative advancements that were made. With this kind of thing going on, we actually should be really glad that the various NG products don't carry the Amiga nameplate. Slapping a Boingball on a Chinese TV, how much worse can it get?
Slapping a Boingball on a Vietnamese TV?
I got one! How about slapping a boing ball on a generic laptop Intel/Nvidia board?
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I got one! How about slapping a boing ball on a generic laptop Intel/Nvidia board?
No, no, no! You can't go inferring that they're going to use generic Intel hardware just because their existing products use generic Intel hardware and they've indicated that they're going to continue using generic Intel hardware for the near future! What, do you think you've got pattern recognition or something? You have to wait for the specs to be released!
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No, no, no! You can't go inferring that they're going to use generic Intel hardware just because their existing products use generic Intel hardware and they've indicated that they're going to continue using generic Intel hardware for the near future! What, do you think you've got pattern recognition or something? You have to wait for the specs to be released!
Dangit John! When You're right, you're right! And...well...you're right! :D
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So.. are these IContain Protected Amiga products going to contain the AAA chipset?
Awesome, I've been looking forward to that for ages.
When you miss a payment, and your Amiga gets clamped, do Amiga-branded debt-collectors come to your door to collect the monies owed?
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Well obviously they're .. erm, and then y'know ... for licensing of the um ...
...wait, wtf?
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This is just disgusting. I hope these pricks go out of business quickly.
I really wish some incredibly wealthy troll would put it out there that he's very interested in purchasing and consolidating all of the Amiga IP in order to relaunch the brand.
The legal battle that would ensue as the various IP holders fight one another over ownership of this suddenly hot commodity would eventually ruin the all, and the Amiga name and IP could lapse into the public domain where it belongs.
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I really wish some incredibly wealthy troll would put it out there that he's very interested in purchasing and consolidating all of the Amiga IP in order to relaunch the brand.
The legal battle that would ensue as the various IP holders fight one another over ownership of this suddenly hot commodity would eventually ruin the all, and the Amiga name and IP could lapse into the public domain where it belongs.
This is my exact plan if I ever win the lottery. Well, that or just buy it outright and hold onto it so nobody can abuse it, then let it lapse into PD upon my death.
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Don't knock Vietnam, we've been taking a holiday there every year for 5 years. It's a great country that has a sad past. Walking on the beach by all the tourist hotels on Sunrise Beach (used to be known as China Beach) at sunrise is a beautiful experience.
They apparently had a war there that devastated the country and only ended 35 years ago. It's remarkable what they've done in 3 and a half decades. Probably one of my favourite places in SE Asia.
Slapping a Boingball on a Vietnamese TV?
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They apparently had a war there that devastated the country and only ended 35 years ago. It's remarkable what they've done in 3 and a half decades. Probably one of my favourite places in SE Asia.
Sorry Persia but I have to say this... That has got be one of the saddest statements I've ever read in my life... :(
What next...
Apparently the world is round....
Apparently creatures called dinosaurs once roamed this earth...
Apparently the education system doesn't work... :(
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Don't knock Vietnam, we've been taking a holiday there every year for 5 years. It's a great country that has a sad past. Walking on the beach by all the tourist hotels on Sunrise Beach (used to be known as China Beach) at sunrise is a beautiful experience.
They apparently had a war there that devastated the country and only ended 35 years ago. It's remarkable what they've done in 3 and a half decades. Probably one of my favourite places in SE Asia.
A buddy of mine works there as an english teacher. Loves the heck out of it too.
He mentioned that the pay isn't great if you are looking to bring money home, but for spending locally, he lives really well.
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Apparently my dad fought in that war.
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Anyway, Vietnam is a magical place. You have to realise that Adults 35 and younger were born after the war and that you have to be almost 40 to actually remember it at all, which means that 2/3s of the population doesn't remember it. I think they've done well to preserve it as sort of a patriotic moment but not dwell on it.
Sunrise Beach as a tourist destination full of hotels is a far better legacy than it's old name of China Beach and it connotations of destruction. The ability to move on is a wonderful thing. It's a bit like (South) Korea. Remember the past but don't dwell on it. Live in the present.
The food is great, the people friendly, the beaches good. I remember wandering the streets of the tourist capital Da Nang late into the night and never having any fear of crime. Vietnam is a country that has a bright future.
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Anyway, Vietnam is a magical place. You have to realise that Adults 35 and younger were born after the war and that you have to be almost 40 to actually remember it at all, which means that 2/3s of the population doesn't remember it. I think they've done well to preserve it as sort of a patriotic moment but not dwell on it.
Sunrise Beach as a tourist destination full of hotels is a far better legacy than it's old name of China Beach and it connotations of destruction. The ability to move on is a wonderful thing. It's a bit like (South) Korea. Remember the past but don't dwell on it. Live in the present.
The food is great, the people friendly, the beaches good. I remember wandering the streets of the tourist capital Da Nang late into the night and never having any fear of crime. Vietnam is a country that has a bright future.
Don't take this the wrong way Persia I'm not having a go at you, it's more a sad disbelief of how bad the education system and general lack of knowledge in some younger folk seems to be these days... :)
I was only a toddler when the Vietnam war was taking place and we were never taught about it in school, for me it is like most things in life you learn about them as you grow up, whether it be from TV, books, newspapers or just talking with folk in general... :)
But to say because folk are under a certain age is an excuse for not knowing about such important things that are part of history and have indeed played a major part in shaping today world is just wrong... :(
I wasn't born (believe it or not) when World War 1 or 2 took place, nor when convicts and children were shipped off to Australia just because they were orphans and considered undesirables by society, nor was I around when dinosaurs roamed the earth... :)
Point is, using age as an excuse for a lack of general knowledge about life and the history of this world is a sad reflection on society today (young and old)... :(
Looking to the future without a knowledge of the past is one sure way of guaranteeing history repeating itself again and then the future doesn't look so bright... ;)
Anyway, lessons are over for today and sorry for sounding like a miserable old fart, guess it must be my age or something... :)
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I got one! How about slapping a boing ball on a generic laptop Intel/Nvidia board?
I'll up you one, Teron mobos!
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@Franko
What I meant is that it is something that they remember as a crucial point in their history but it doesn't dominate discussion or public thought. It's a bit like Anzac Day. I've been to Gallipoli and was moved to tears. None of my ancestors/relatives fought there, well possibly one of the Persian ones but they were on the wrong side if they did. but none the less it's a part of my history as an Aussie. But do I think of Gallipoli every day? No, of course not. It's the same with Vietnam and the War of Liberation. It's a single point of definition for modern Vietnam, but most days they have too much other stuff to do than to dwell on it. Vietnam is very much a country that lives in the present, that's what makes it such an interesting place.
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So.. are these IContain Protected Amiga products going to contain the AAA chipset?
No, but I have it on authority that they will operate entirely on AAA batteries, which is close enough. Don´t you think?
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I really do like the phone. But I suspect that the price will be double what it normally is. That's pretty standard with rtos...
(http://icontainprotects.com/wp-includes/images/phone-1.jpg)
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For $15 bucks I'll print you an "AMEEEGA" decal for your Android phones, as well as mail you a 6 pack of cheap Canadian beer.
:lol:
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Vodafone owes me a phone in a few months. I'm waiting to see what the iPhone 5 looks like.
For $15 bucks I'll print you an "AMEEEGA" decal for your Android phones, as well as mail you a 6 pack of cheap Canadian beer.
:lol:
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Valium, Prozac, Aderall, Lithium….the list goes on and on…..and for those of you who seem to be so consumed and concerned about the recent announcements regarding iContain and their Amiga branded products, I suggest you contact a medical professional, and get on board with a prescription of your choice.
Our license agreement with Amiga Inc. is an exclusive worldwide trademark license for All-in One keyboard computers, and a non exclusive license for other form factors, accessories, software and peripherals, all of which will be produced and distributed by Commodore USA, LLC.
I welcome the recent announcement by iContain of their trademark license agreement with Amiga Inc. and encourage everyone who has an interest in seeing the Amiga brand return to the forefront of consumer electronics and personal computing, to join us.
Although I am not personally familiar with the principals of iContain, I did speak with Bill McEwen earlier this week, and feel confidant that this new licensee will bring much to the table, and can prove very beneficial to the overall success of the Amiga brand, and it’s vibrant rebirth. The RTO (Rent to Own) market is the target of this venture, and by developing mainstream consumer electronics under the Amiga banner can only further all our efforts as well. There can be joint marketing, production, manufacturing economies of scale and other positive results that are now possible. It is a bit too early in the game to forecast where this will go, but I do look forward to opening a dialog with iContain, and explore all the possibilities that may exist….now, and in the future.
Congratulations, iContain…and welcome to the exciting world of Amiga!
Barry Altman/ CEO
Commodore USA, LLC
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Like many, having spent a not so small fortune on Amiga & Commodore products over the decades I reckon we should all slap the Amiga name or Commodore logos on anything we use or sell new or second hand... :)
(we bought em, we own em... :))
Sod IP/ Licence Agreements/ Copyright and all that other legal mumbo jumbo that means naff all when it comes to the Amiga or Commodore... :)
Sod all those poxy companies that have robbed us all over the years and kept the Amiga from being developed or even kept alive because of their pathetic court cases and closed door dealings, that have done nothing but leave the Amiga in limbo... :)
Sod the feckin lot of em... :)
I'm off now to make a fresh batch of genuine Amiga bagles and bottle some genuine Amiga tap water to sell at the car boot sale today... :)
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Yeah, we should all license the Name.
"We are Amiga!"
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I think a commodore toilet is in order.
"When you have the runs, run for the Commodore!"
Look this one is even "PC Compatible...
(http://media.bestofmicro.com/tuning-toilet-pc,Q-8-252368-13.jpg)
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That would be a Comodedore PC...
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confidant that this new licensee will bring much to the table, and can prove very beneficial to the overall success of the Amiga brand, and it’s vibrant rebirth.
Beneficial to the pockets of some people, but in fact it is just misusing the brand, decreasing it´s value and finally getting much less value from it than a company with the right products would have. IContain bougt a name to sell their stuff to a market. They don´t care about the legacy.
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I am thoroughly convinced that Amiga Inc. is the worst of all the bad Amiga trademark holders. It seems that McEwen is intent on destroying the name completely. He obviously doesn't really care about Amiga. I suppose that nothing can be done about this ongoing debacle.
EDIT: Can anything be done? (I mean anything legal.)
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EDIT: Can anything be done? (I mean anything legal.)
I doubt it, apart from waiting for him to die or declare bankruptcy and snag the rights back.
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Yeah, we should all license the Name.
"We are Amiga!"
I liked that so much, in the true tradition of all things Commodore & Amiga I've nicked it for use under my name here... :D
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I am thoroughly convinced that Amiga Inc. is the worst of all the bad Amiga trademark holders. It seems that McEwen is intent on destroying the name completely. He obviously doesn't really care about Amiga. I suppose that nothing can be done about this ongoing debacle.
EDIT: Can anything be done? (I mean anything legal.)
When it comes to the Amiga name it don't matter whether it's legal or not the only ones making money from the Amiga name anymore are the ruddy lawyers... :madashell:
Everyone just feel free to use the Amiga name and all things related to it to use and brand anything from a sack of onions to a top of the range PC and flog em on eBay or wherever... :)
What they gonna do... lock us all up... FREEDOM FOR THE AMIGA... :D
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I am thoroughly convinced that Amiga Inc. is the worst of all the bad Amiga trademark holders. It seems that McEwen is intent on destroying the name completely. He obviously doesn't really care about Amiga. I suppose that nothing can be done about this ongoing debacle.
EDIT: Can anything be done? (I mean anything legal.)
Buy it.
http://www.pluritas.com/pdf/pluritas_press_release_amiga_tm_sale_november1_2010.pdf
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Buy it.
Shall we take a collection?
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Shall we take a collection?
Well, first you have to realize that the # you have in mind might be somewhat different than what -they- have in mind.
Then you might want to consider, as I posted elsewhere:
"@Pluritas (who won't read this much less dare to respond)
Can you state for fact that you are requesting NDA and honoring same before entering into any discussions?"
#6
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Shall we take a collection?
I'll start... just let me know where to send my two bob... :)
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I'll start... just let me know where to send my two bob... :)
Franko
What with me 50p I found down the back of the sofa, that's bound to be enough
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Franko
What with me 50p I found down the back of the sofa, that's bound to be enough
Problem is that you can't reduce it to price/#of users.
That would be enough challenge.
But how about when the 1st person asks, "what am I going to get out of this" and you rapidly discover that each camp will now need its own bounty since no one can agree on even what to have for lunch.
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So when are the Amiga branded Urine Cans and Porta Potties coming to the market?
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But how about when the 1st person asks, "what am I going to get out of this" and you rapidly discover that each camp will now need its own bounty since no one can agree on even what to have for lunch.
True. Maybe we can collect donations in order to buy it and then make it public domain ;)
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Well we have 60p so far, that's 12 bob, a bit high for the Amiga computer name since everyone and their uncle seem to have rights to it. Any body want to throw in half a crown?
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5100/5485292955_b25943c5db.jpg)
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Well we have 60p so far, that's 12 bob, a bit high for the Amiga computer name since everyone and their uncle seem to have rights to it. Any body want to throw in half a crown?
Half a crown... :eek:
HALF A CROWN... :eek::eek:
D'ya think some of us are made of money or summit, me wallets just had a heart attack... :(
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I guess 2s/6d isn't even possible in the UK anymore, we don't have a half crown coin any more here in Oz, but we've got a full size florin (20 cents) and six pence (5 cents), to get us there.
Half a crown... :eek:
HALF A CROWN... :eek::eek:
D'ya think some of us are made of money or summit, me wallets just had a heart attack... :(
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I guess 2s/6d isn't even possible in the UK anymore, we don't have a half crown coin any more here in Oz, but we've got a full size florin (20 cents) and six pence (5 cents), to get us there.
It is in my wallet (as I don't open it very much), in fact I'm pretty sure I've still got some gold doubloons in there that Long John Silver gave me when I was just a cabin boy... :)
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It is in my wallet (as I don't open it very much), in fact I'm pretty sure I've still got some gold doubloons in there that Long John Silver gave me when I was just a cabin boy... :)
Ahh...so you were a fancy lad...
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Ahh...so you were a fancy lad...
Nah... I was just naive... :)
This little ditty takes me back a bit... :D
[youtube]xKcUcex8wgM[/youtube]
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I got some change in my couch. Call it 2 dollars