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Title: WINuae faux HDD
Post by: Plus4 on December 15, 2003, 01:29:38 PM
Got the Amiga classix CD and there are some instrcutions included on how to add a pretend DH0 into the emulated workbench.

I follow in instruction OK and the DH0 shows in UAE's add harfile window OK but then workbench should show DH0 ready for initializing but I only see Ram drive and Workbench.  Seems to work OK if I 'mount a directory' but I want the emulator to think it has a HDD!  Any suggestions clever people?



Title: Re: WINuae faux HDD
Post by: blobrana on December 15, 2003, 01:52:38 PM
Er, too much hassle to make a pretend DH0 !

How about just creating a folder (in windows) called `workbench` (dh0:)....
Then copy all the files you need to boot into that.  you may have to first boot from a pretend floppy, to configure the OS...

This is what i did, (copying by hand, and not using the os3.9 installer), and it works fine for me...I have BTW a folder with all my ADF program files in another folder... :-D
Title: Re: WINuae faux HDD
Post by: ptek on December 15, 2003, 03:59:26 PM
Beware of the sticky files syndrome 8))))

Once I copied some AMIGA files into a windows folder from a AMIGA CD backup I did and some of them couldn't be later  removed by Windows !

Thats true! I think it was some MUI files ...

How did i managed to delete them ? I didnt 8)
I had a PC hard disk corruption later (by other reasons, not related to winuae surelly) so ALL the files were gone ;-)

Title: Re: WINuae faux HDD
Post by: ptek on December 15, 2003, 04:02:24 PM
Try to do after WorkBench boot :

assign  DH0:  (name of the virtual harddisk here)

I can't test this now ...

I should be working at this moment at the office ;-)
Title: Re: WINuae faux HDD
Post by: blobrana on December 15, 2003, 05:23:00 PM
I haven`t come across that problem. (Er, yet).

I run XP pro with just the fat 32 FILESYSTEM, rather than the `improved` xp version...
The good thing about (for me) having `real` files to deal with is that i can access them (pictures/music/text) with  windows application...
Title: Re: WINuae faux HDD
Post by: Desolator on December 15, 2003, 07:02:20 PM
You can always remove files from a windows folder. It's only if a program that is currently running or the operativesystem in itself uses the files that you get a access denied prompt when trying to remove them. (or remove them with the administrator account if all else fails. He can take ownership of folders and files and delete them at his own leisure.)

And the "improved" filesystem is not improved or new. its NTFS, and has been selectable in Windows since WinNT4 if i'm not mistaken. Sure, FAT32 is usable but NTFS supports journaling and filepermissions. NTFS is vastly superior to FAT32.  :-)

No, I don't like to use Windows. Seriously.  :-D
But I use it daily in my education...
Title: Re: WINuae faux HDD
Post by: seer on December 15, 2003, 07:47:26 PM
or remove them with the administrator account if all else fails. He can take ownership of folders and files and delete them at his own leisure

Almost always... Sometimes even that fails.. (happened at work, the filesystem became corrupted (apparently) and 1 file gave an acces denied no matter what you tried, no security info, acces denied when taking ownership (under the system admin account..)

And on topic, I'd suggest the same as

NTFS is vastly superior to FAT32.

Agreed, much safer.. Still not the best there is tho.. (You'l love NTFS when the MTF and the backup of it get corrupted  ;-) )

As for the topic, try what Blobrana suggested, should work
Title: Re: WINuae faux HDD
Post by: ptek on December 16, 2003, 11:57:16 AM
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by Desolator on 2003/12/15 19:02:20

You can always remove files from a windows folder.


Nope, not always ...
Believe me, it already happened to friends of mine when the filename have not usual characters like ç,á and other.

And the files weren't in use.
Title: Re: WINuae faux HDD
Post by: bloodline on December 16, 2003, 12:23:19 PM
Quote

ptek wrote:
Beware of the sticky files syndrome 8))))

Once I copied some AMIGA files into a windows folder from a AMIGA CD backup I did and some of them couldn't be later  removed by Windows !

Thats true! I think it was some MUI files ...

How did i managed to delete them ? I didnt 8)
I had a PC hard disk corruption later (by other reasons, not related to winuae surelly) so ALL the files were gone ;-)



I have had the same problem, I try everything, but the files (nor the directories in which they reside) can not be deleted.

Yes, I think it is an MUI file that casues problems.This happned on my Fat32 drive, it has not happend on my NTFS drives yet.
Title: Re: WINuae faux HDD
Post by: Ross_Geller on December 16, 2003, 02:39:58 PM
I got a bit bored (ok, a lot bored :-D), so I decided to try setting up a hardfile with my copy of WinUAE, and then documenting it so that there's a step by step guide that I know successfully created a hardfile for me.  And here it is:
How to add a Hardfile to WinUAE (http://homepages.slingshot.co.nz/~lsrowson/WinUAE/hardfile.html)

I hope it helps you (or anyone else) in some small way...
Title: Re: WINuae faux HDD
Post by: ptek on December 16, 2003, 05:28:40 PM
Yes, I also sure it was a MUI file.

Hey guys : now you know what you're going to get if you install MUI using FAT32 (and 16 maybe) as described !

 :python:

About the other problem I mentioned (when using unusual charaters combinations on filenames) it didn't happen to me (yet) but to a friend of mine ...
Title: Re: WINuae faux HDD
Post by: Cass on January 26, 2004, 03:34:18 PM
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Almost always... Sometimes even that fails.. (happened at work, the filesystem became corrupted (apparently) and 1 file gave an acces denied no matter what you tried, no security info, acces denied when taking ownership (under the system admin account..)


-Make sure you have the privileges to delete the file.

-Wait till the system checked what kind of file is (lots of times you get an error that the file is in use, but there is no application running! A system .DLL checks for the file, something like the deficons).

-If everything else fails, try to delete it via SAMBA by the Amiga side (providing the access and privileges).

A question from me now :-) :
I have the WinXP shared folder as a HD on the WinUAE side. The problem is that I can't write to the volume anymore (volume is write protected)!:-?
And I have checked the write protection before starting the emulator, but it's ignored anyway. I think this problem firstly appeared when I updated the WinUAE version by just copying/extracting the newer over the older one, and keeping the settings file.
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Title: Re: WINuae faux HDD
Post by: Trev on January 26, 2004, 06:37:44 PM
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Beware of the sticky files syndrome 8))))


Explorer and the command prompt have a problem deleting files with reserved names (aux, con, etc.). The emulation gets around this by decorating reserved names and keeping tack of the changes in a special index file. So, if you're going to copy files from an Amiga CD (i.e. possibly including reserved names and using Rock Ridge extensions), it's best if you do it from within the emulation for two reasons: 1) WinUAE will decorate reserved names, and 2) Windows doesn't natively support Rock Ridge extensions in its CD file system implementation.

Trev