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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: zylesea on February 02, 2011, 12:29:04 PM
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Since I discovered there are still ppl who don't know what MorphOS actually is, I wrote a brieft introduction (it's just a 5 minute read) for those already familiar with Amiga to get a first idea about it. Some screen shots provide additional information.
Find it here: http://via.i-networx.de/wim.htm
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I thought I'd help out with a screenshot showing MorphOS running on my new 396Mhz Efika, it's so fast and responsive:
(http://www.amiga.org/gallery/images/5087/1_Grab.png)
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I thought I'd help out with a screenshot showing MorphOS running on my new 396Mhz Efika, it's so fast and responsive:
IIRC it actually is 400MHz precisely. But the Openfirmware miscalculates the value slightly and hence is reporting the 396 MHz. But it is a nice maschine anyway, I like mine.
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Since I discovered there are still ppl who don't know what MorphOS actually is, I wrote a brieft introduction (it's just a 5 minute read) for those already familiar with Amiga to get a first idea about it. Some screen shots provide additional information.
Find it here: http://via.i-networx.de/wim.htm
Thanks for that.
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@ Cammy
While that's a nice screenshot, to be honest it just looks like the kind of thing I see on my Mac running OSX, you're good a making videos about the Amiga is there any chance please that you could make a short video of MorphOS running actual Amiga progs... :)
Thank to zylesea and his MorphOS guide for numpties like me I now have quite a good understanding of just what MorphOS actually is and is capable of, a nice wee video of MorphOS actually running some Amiga apps would top this off for folk like me who don't really know much about MorphOS... :)
Cheers
Franko
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@ Cammy
While that's a nice screenshot, to be honest it just looks like the kind of thing I see on my Mac running OSX, you're good a making videos about the Amiga is there any chance please that you could make a short video of MorphOS running actual Amiga progs... :)
Thank to zylesea and his MorphOS guide for numpties like me I now have quite a good understanding of just what MorphOS actually is and is capable of, a nice wee video of MorphOS actually running some Amiga apps would top this off for folk like me who don't really know much about MorphOS... :)
Cheers
Franko
There are a number of MophOS videos on youtube.
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I always found it strange that the Morphos website Overview section doesn't use the "Amiga" name, but rather states:
"Just-in-Time compiler that emulates the 68k family of processors and thereby allows to transparently execute legacy applications developed for the Commodore Ax00 series of computers."
I figured it had something to do with legal/trademark issues with Amiga Inc., but now I find that they're using it in a more obscure place -- only under their GUI Toolkit section:
"Constant development and continued support from users and programmers over the past years have made MUI by far the most successfull available GUI toolkit for the Amiga platform."
--- and without any reference to trademarks at all. So perhaps their reticence to use the Amiga term has some other motivation.
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@ Cammy
While that's a nice screenshot, to be honest it just looks like the kind of thing I see on my Mac running OSX, you're good a making videos about the Amiga is there any chance please that you could make a short video of MorphOS running actual Amiga progs... :)
Thank to zylesea and his MorphOS guide for numpties like me I now have quite a good understanding of just what MorphOS actually is and is capable of, a nice wee video of MorphOS actually running some Amiga apps would top this off for folk like me who don't really know much about MorphOS... :)
Cheers
Franko
I was considering setting up an acont on youtube. Maybe I'll do and add a video, too. Anyway, have you seen the wordprocessor screenshot alreay I just added: Wordworth, Amiga Writer and google docs - all on one screen:
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@ Cammy
While that's a nice screenshot, to be honest it just looks like the kind of thing I see on my Mac running OSX, you're good a making videos about the Amiga is there any chance please that you could make a short video of MorphOS running actual Amiga progs... :)
Ive seen you make comments like that before, and while I can partially understand where youre coming from, try using amiga os with an rtg system sometime and you'll suddenly see MOS looks a heck of a lot more like amiga os than it does Mac OSX. Amiga OS is potentially soooo much prettier than AGA allows. Having said this though, MOS does look nicer than AmigaOS.
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Nice introduction. What is the bundled browser - OWB?
I see ebay currently have mac mini g4's (~£120) and dual CPU power mac's (~£80) - so might be worth investigating!
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@ zylesea
Nice pic, but as I say I'd really like to see MorphOS in action before I purchase another Mac, I'll take Jorkanys advice and see what I can find on YouTube for now, but a video by yourself would be welcomed... :)
@ fushy_fiz
"I've seen you make comments like that before" !!!
Don't quite understand what your getting at, sorry... :(
Thought you'd have known by now that I still don't have an RTG board on my Amiga and also as I've also said before I'm not into nice looking WB screens or eye candy, to me it's running the apps that count or being able to easily run things from the CLI/SHELL... :)
(who wants to sit and stare at nice Workbench screen all day, waste of an Amiga that is... :))
To me MorphOS running on a mac sounds interesting as I reckon I may get more use out of a Mac if I can run Amiga progs on it other than just using it for the net like I do with the two I have now... :)
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I think you're trying to read something into it that was never there. Im simply saying that MOS isnt too far removed from an RTG based amiga system in terms of the look, albiet a little enhanced. When I say, "Ive seen you make comments like that before" it means exactly and literally that. No secret messages, not having a cheap shot, just exactly what I said, as I have seen you make comments about MOS looking like a Mac. Up the resolution, color depth, add some nice colors/gradients, icons, etc. and an RTG based system looks fairly distinctive, and MOS follows that look. It's not about fancy backdrops, etc., its the look of the OS itself. While I enjoy ocs/ecs/aga theyre not completely representative of the "true" amiga look.
Although actually off topic, as for "Who wants to stare at a nice looking Workbench all day?", well each to thier own, but for me Im more interested in not having an ugly looking workbench more than wanting a nice looking one. If it's pleasant enough to not be intrussive, then that's good, as opposed to standing out 'cos its ugly. I love the system, but man, a default install sure is ugly to a point of distraction.
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I didn't think there were any "secret messages" in there, just couldn't quite get what you were actually saying that's all... :)
Although I don't see how you can say that OCS/ECS/AGA are not completely representative of the "true" Amiga look, in all the years I've been using OCS/ECS/AGA they are what came with the machines and nothing else and are what made the Amiga look that bit different from everything else... :)
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Nice introduction. What is the bundled browser - OWB?
I see ebay currently have mac mini g4's (~£120) and dual CPU power mac's (~£80) - so might be worth investigating!
The browser is OWB by Fab. Current relase is 1.11, it is based on webkit and shares more or less only the name with other OWB incarnations. Very useful. Youtube works well, as do many google services (unfortunately streetview doesn't work).
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Thought you'd have known by now that I still don't have an RTG board on my Amiga and also as I've also said before I'm not into nice looking WB screens or eye candy, to me it's running the apps that count or being able to easily run things from the CLI/SHELL... :)
Have a look here (http://korni.ovh.org/morphos-skins/) for some alternative MorphOS skins, it can look rather plain if you prefer that.
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As usual once people start flashing nice MOS screenshots I go looking for cheap MacMini :-)
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For YouTube videos you could start with these for example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TomrykR0AIc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBl_yfGHm34
http://www.youtube.com/user/JellyPowered#p/u
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Since I discovered there are still ppl who don't know what MorphOS actually is, I wrote a brieft introduction (it's just a 5 minute read) for those already familiar with Amiga to get a first idea about it. Some screen shots provide additional information.
Find it here: http://via.i-networx.de/wim.htm
Thanks much for providing this overview. Covered a couple of things I still had questions about!
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So googledocs works fine then?
I havent put off the idea, but if I am going to shell out for a "new" amiga system, it must have compatibility with modern office formats to some extent, so that'd be nice.
Any way to create PDF files? (does google docs do this?)
PowerPC macs dont seem super cheap atm on craigs list. WHats the specs people would recommend for Morph OS? I see powermacs are supported and most of those are in the 500 ghz range it seems, whereas the mac minis seem a lot beefier.
How much fuss is installation?
I assume full support for USB 2, gamepads etc ?
For apps that can install and run natively, does this work from adf or can I copy an installation from a real amiga or?
Examples of popular applications that will work? (final writer 97, Dpaint etc)
multiple screens / screen dragging?
.info files?
Dumb question maybe but wireless support?
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So googledocs works fine then?
I havent put off the idea, but if I am going to shell out for a "new" amiga system, it must have compatibility with modern office formats to some extent, so that'd be nice.
Any way to create PDF files? (does google docs do this?)
Google doc provides export to pdf, .doc., .odt, .rtf, .html. All in all it works rather well.
PowerPC macs dont seem super cheap atm on craigs list. WHats the specs people would recommend for Morph OS? I see powermacs are supported and most of those are in the 500 ghz range it seems, whereas the mac minis seem a lot beefier.
I think 1Ghz is enough for most things. But there are a few hings where even mor cpu power is required (720p video). I think 720p requires 1.42 GHz at least.
How much fuss is installation?
I assume full support for USB 2, gamepads etc ?
installation takes a few minutes only. The installation is hassleless requires no extra booting in between.
usb 2.0 is supported, but no isochronous mode though (e.g.usb sound cards).
For apps that can install and run natively, does this work from adf or can I copy an installation from a real amiga or?
Examples of popular applications that will work? (final writer 97, Dpaint etc)
multiple screens / screen dragging?
.info files?
Dumb question maybe but wireless support?
.adfs are used for uae only, you better install straightly from cd, usb, network or an attached hdd.
DPaint V is said to work, DPIV not. Finalwriter works, TV-Paint works, Photogenics works.
Multiple screens work as well, screen dragging is not supported (though there is a 3rd party tool, but it is rather of little benefit).
icons are stored as .info files. sysem is compatible to original icons, new icons, glow icons. MorphOS preferred icons are png icons though.
WLAN is not really supported, best work around is a eth/WLAN adapter.
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So googledocs works fine then?
I havent put off the idea, but if I am going to shell out for a "new" amiga system, it must have compatibility with modern office formats to some extent, so that'd be nice.
Any way to create PDF files? (does google docs do this?)
A few programs have direct output to PDF. There's no direct PDF print driver, but the print system is built around TurboPrint, so you've got PostScript/GhostScript output that you can convert to PDF pretty easily.
PowerPC macs dont seem super cheap atm on craigs list. WHats the specs people would recommend for Morph OS? I see powermacs are supported and most of those are in the 500 ghz range it seems, whereas the mac minis seem a lot beefier.
The biggest performance problem on the PowerUp version was probably the lack of RAM/VRAM, so any Mac should be fine. VRAM issues on 32MB machines still pop up at very high resolutions in "enhanced display" mode, so be aware of that.
How much fuss is installation?
First-time setup for dual booting with OSX takes a bit of work, but nothing too major. If you're trashing the OSX partitions or performing an upgrade it's almost no effort at all.
I assume full support for USB 2, gamepads etc ?
Through Poseidon, yes.
For apps that can install and run natively, does this work from adf or can I copy an installation from a real amiga or?
Either of these works.
Examples of popular applications that will work? (final writer 97, Dpaint etc)
Almost anything that doesn't hit the hardware. So Final Writer (though I recall having some issues with it), yes, DPaint, no.
multiple screens / screen dragging?
Just like Amiga RTG - multiple screens, yes, dragging, no. There's a commodity called Dragon that can fake screen dragging, but I've found it too unstable.
.info files?
Just like any other Amiga.
Basically, MorphOS *is* AmigaOS under a different name. It's not something like AtheOS/Syllable (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AtheOS) which was meant to be an AmigaOS clone but turned into an OS-with-a-few-features-kinda-sorta-inspired-by-something-AmigaOS-sorta-had"
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I'm glad that this was brought up because I didn't know you could run morphos on an efika, I thought you had to buy a macmini.
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PowerPC macs dont seem super cheap atm on craigs list. WHats the specs people would recommend for Morph OS? I see powermacs are supported and most of those are in the 500 ghz range it seems, whereas the mac minis seem a lot beefier.
I'd say better take one closer to 1GHz or more and preferably R8500/R9xxx based gfx card... more the vmem the better.
How much fuss is installation?
Easier than ever on any Amigaish system. For multiboot it requires some more work, but for MorphOS only it's about pressing c-key hold on the boot to boot from CD and then few clicks with mouse on installation wizard and you're done.
I assume full support for USB 2, gamepads etc ?
Yes, but I think that gamepads should be HID compatible and not require any proprietary drivers. I think most digital ones should work.. analog driving wheels etc need more looking.
For apps that can install and run natively, does this work from adf or can I copy an installation from a real amiga or?
I've copied all my old apps from my real Amiga installation and that's the easiest way. Generally installing on MorphOS should work too. I never installed anything from adf, but I guess you could mount them or unpack to some mounted device...
Examples of popular applications that will work? (final writer 97, Dpaint etc)
What I have configured to my use as 68k versions: FXPaint, PPaint, ArtEffect, ImageFX, Photogenics, Elastic/Fantastic Dreams, TVPaint, Imagine, Real3d, Amplifier, AmigaAMP, GoldED, PageStream, FinalWriter, AmigaWriter, MakeCD, TurboCalc, IBrowse, DCTelnet, AmTelnet, DOpus Magellan2... and lot more :)
Then there are MorphOS native versions of many Amiga apps too, like YAM, SimpleMail, AWEB, Voyager, SongPlayer, AmIRC, CED...
multiple screens / screen dragging?
Multiple screens yes. You can even have different skins for each MUI screen, and the greatest thing in MorphOS2 is, that its screenbar modules are visible/usable on every MUI screen too.
Screen dragging is available as 3rd party extension, but I'm not sure if many use it or is it still working. I couldn't use it on real RTG Amiga and thus I can't miss it on MorphOS either.
.info files?
Yes. Native icons are plain PNG images (easy to make!), but tooltypes etc are still same.
Dumb question maybe but wireless support?
Not internally (yet). You have to use external access point or similar solution.
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I'm glad that this was brought up because I didn't know you could run morphos on an efika, I thought you had to buy a macmini.
Uhm.. what would you run on Efika, if not MorphOS? ;)
Don't forget Pegasos1, Pegasos2, PowerMacs and certain eMac either :)
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thanks guys. lack of wireless is a pain. i guess id have to set up a bridge or something then.
everything else sounds great.
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Uhm.. what would you run on Efika, if not MorphOS? ;)
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For some reason I was thinking efika was like sam and ran os4.1 or linux but haven't really read much about it in a long time. Wonder why samiga can't run morphos?
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Uhm.. what would you run on Efika, if not MorphOS? ;)
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For some reason I was thinking efika was like sam and ran os4.1 or linux but haven't really read much about it in a long time. Wonder why samiga can't run morphos?
Most Efika 5200B will probably be used as headless devices that run some Linux. If you are interested in MorphOS an Efika is only a suggestion if the benefit of Efika (very small and *very* low energy) is really a matter. It is a maschine for tinkering not so much for easy and intensive usage.
I have an Efika and a Mac mini G4 (and a Peg) - while I like my Efika and use it quite a lot there are *worlds* between them.
Efika is good for a lot of stuff, but the 128 MB RAM *are* an issue.
I think Efika is a great product, really. But rather good for special things like my eframe: http://via.i-networx.de/eframe/eframe.htm. For the similar money you'll get an eMac G4 or Powermac G4.
In short: For tinkering - Efika, for just using - some G4 Mac.
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Wonder why samiga can't run morphos?
Simple really, it is not a supported platform (http://www.morphos-team.net/hardware.html), there was little incentive to support it for the MorphOS Team.
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@ Golem!dk
Now that's more like it, nothing too fancy just plain & simple (a bit like myself).... Cheers.... :)
@ pVc
Thanks for those links, interesting... :)
@ save2600
Erm... nothing to say really, just thought I'd tell you I've just farted.... :)
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Since I discovered there are still ppl who don't know what MorphOS actually is, I wrote a brieft introduction (it's just a 5 minute read) for those already familiar with Amiga to get a first idea about it. Some screen shots provide additional information.
Find it here: http://via.i-networx.de/wim.htm
Thanks, that helps. Better info than on the official site.
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Is the 3rd party tool for screen dragging Dragon, or something else ?
I hope something else, as Dragon is little more than a novelty. Screen resets to top of the screen when you let it go, screens cease to updatewhile being moved, cant be let sit partway down and so on. I've seen a few people mention screen dragging via a 3rd party program in regards to MOS and if it is indeed Dragon then its kinda misleading to say its available, even with a 3rd party program. Not really important, but something Ive always wondered about nonetheless. Also, bare in mind that anything relying on custom chipset wont work on MOS so a lot of old software still requires UAE (only mentioned as it sounds like some people expect most of thier old favorites to work seemlessly).
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Ive seen you make comments like that before, and while I can partially understand where youre coming from, try using amiga os with an rtg system sometime and you'll suddenly see MOS looks a heck of a lot more like amiga os than it does Mac OSX. Amiga OS is potentially soooo much prettier than AGA allows. Having said this though, MOS does look nicer than AmigaOS.
OS4+Aros look Amiga, nothing to do with RTG, this doesnt.
Dont get me wrong I have no objections to MorhOS and wish them all the best and think theyve done a good job but as far as cosmetics it doesnt look like Amiga more like Mac.
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I'd have to disagree there. MUI, Intuition, Gadtools, etc. (apis) go a long way to shaping the look of an OS more than skins, icons and so on.
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OS4+Aros look Amiga, nothing to do with RTG, this doesnt.
Dont get me wrong I have no objections to MorhOS and wish them all the best and think theyve done a good job but as far as cosmetics it doesnt look like Amiga more like Mac.
Try the AmigaOS3.x skin (http://korni.ovh.org/morphos-skins/?i=AmigaOS3.x_Skin.png)
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OS4+Aros look Amiga, nothing to do with RTG, this doesnt.
Dont get me wrong I have no objections to MorhOS and wish them all the best and think theyve done a good job but as far as cosmetics it doesnt look like Amiga more like Mac.
IMHO just a silly and weak argument, the default look of MorphOS can be changed, there are enough themes.
Take a look at my old MorphOS 1.x screenshots: http://home.xmsnet.nl/toto/MorphOS/. Doesn't look like MacOS to me.
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OS4+Aros look Amiga, nothing to do with RTG, this doesnt.
Dont get me wrong I have no objections to MorhOS and wish them all the best and think theyve done a good job but as far as cosmetics it doesnt look like Amiga more like Mac.
Isn't it pretty shallow to judge by cosmetics?-)
Cosmetics can be changed and many users prefer to use more minimalistic style than the default theme.
And somehow I have the feeling that most of the Mac comments come just because of the one single tool only, system preferences in panel view. It can be changed to traditional MUI list view too and then it's nothing but Amiga.
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I tried to spell it out clearly that MorphOS just doesnt look like Amiga and that I had no problem with MorphOS I dont know how I could make it any clearer?
This is only one point of view I realy have no intrest in going further...................
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Isn't it pretty shallow to judge by cosmetics?-)
Cosmetics can be changed and many users prefer to use more minimalistic style than the default theme..
Your right, of course. But many people go by initial visuals.
That's why people bought XP over 2000, it had the new 'fisher price' UI
And why people think Windows7 is not Vista with a couple of new GUI functions and some bug fixes :)
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IMHO just a silly and weak argument, the default look of MorphOS can be changed, there are enough themes.
Take a look at my old MorphOS 1.x screenshots: http://home.xmsnet.nl/toto/MorphOS/. Doesn't look like MacOS to me.
Looks like Mac and Vista had sex.... :roflmao:
Can I make it look like KS/WB 1.3? If I can then I might try it.
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Looks like Mac and Vista had sex.... :roflmao:
Can I make it look like KS/WB 1.3? If I can then I might try it.
Yes you can. While I don't have a link at hand, there is a 1.3 skin somewhere ravialbale. It can really look as you want, it is full skinable.
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@runequester,
I was able to find a dual 1.25GHz G4 PowerMac w/2gb RAM & Radeon 9000Pro video card & SuperDrive for less than $35 and a 1.25GHz eMac for just the shipping charges.
Prices of all PPC Macs are falling fast, like every week the prices are cheaper, so if you have any patience (which all Amiga users should have from experience), you can find a good price on a used PPC Mac to run MorphOS2.x. Many people have found them for free as they were being thrown out by friends, or at the places they work.
For Amiga users that are not sure they will like MorphOS2.x, I suggest that they find a G4 Mac that a friend has, or one they can get for free and install MorphOS2.7 on it (also free to try with 30 minute time limit) and try it out for 30 minutes at a time to see if they like what they see. Also, ask questions and for help from experienced MorphOS2.x users while they are trying it out, so they get an accurate idea of what it is capable of.
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It looks like some people only used Amigas because they liked the ugly look of the default Workbench.
You all know the reason Workbench looked so plain to begin with was to inspire you to create something more visually appealing with it yourself? It's a blank canvas for the creative mind. It has always been more configurable than other systems, especially MUI which lets you determine the frame, fill, font, background textures/gradients and pixel distances for every single component of the GUI on a per-program or global basis. You can make one program look like Workbench 1.3 and another look like Windows Vista, it's all up to you, and it always has been with Amiga OS and MUI.
If you're not interested in operating systems at all, and consider a computer nothing more than a tool to get work done then you probably won't get anything out of MorphOS that you can't do on a generic PC. But if you're an Amiga enthusiast you owe it to yourself to give it a go and see how good an Amiga OS can be.
Now to explain a little about the configurability of MorphOS, I have taken a few screenshots showing different MUI settings. I didn't change the window frames, but those can be changed as well of course.
The screenshot I showed earlier was how I prefer to have it look, I configured it that way myself. This is the default MorphOS look:
http://i54.tinypic.com/2h50581.png
This is one of the default themes to choose from, for those nostalgic for the past:
http://i54.tinypic.com/200wyea.png
And here it is the way I have configured it to look for myself:
http://i52.tinypic.com/2m85o1x.png
By the way, changing the look of MUI in MorphOS happens in real time. All the programs you are configuring will change their look as you adjust it without having to Test it out first, you can see how it looks as you fine-tune it to your tastes.
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This was really informative. Thanks to everyone who contributed. I've stayed away from MorphOS, but perhaps I'll get one of those MacMINIS and give it a try.
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Looks like Mac and Vista had sex.... :roflmao:
Can I make it look like KS/WB 1.3? If I can then I might try it.
Actually there's a Workbench 1.x skin, like zylesea said. Have a look here http://www.pegasosforum.de/dload.php?action=file&file_id=288.
Hope you have fun trying MorphOS ;-)
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The MorphOS look that you see most often is much like Linux in the late 90s or what Windows tried to copy with XP. But it doesn´t stop at the color of the titlebars being in bad taste and icons being autoarranged to weird grids.
The original Amiga OS had to concentrate on the essentials. There was much thought going into details. Icons looked the way they looked, because one found that the image
a) represented the idea best
b) was visible an clear on every monitor by people with moderate eyesight
Todays criteria seem to be: its coooler! It´s mooore!
And the old Workbench had some pretty cool bells and whistles: Many people for example forgot that it was normal to select more than one menu item in one swoop. AmigaOS still does that and if you know the trick it can become more useful than Apples "Expose" or "Spaces".
MUI has a lot of eyecandy and unfortunately is helping you to create interfaces with more buttons than your user really wants. If you really think about how the software is used you will find that less is almost always more.
So I don´t agree with people who are calling the old Workbench-look crappy. AROS in fact does a good job in maintaining the clean lines of the former design.
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The original Amiga OS had to concentrate on the essentials. There was much thought going into details. Icons looked the way they looked, because one found that the image
a) represented the idea best
b) was visible an clear on every monitor by people with moderate eyesight
Todays criteria seem to be: its coooler! It´s mooore!
I have to admit I like Workbench 1.x look very much these days. 2.x was complete miss shot in visuals.
And I have to admit I sort of like OS4's retro look.
But I dont see any reason to use more colours when we have true colour gfx cards available. I liked my 8 colour MagicWB very much but it was in 90s. Glowicons on my 3.1 were not bad either. But I can always boot my A500 to get my Workbench 1.3 fix.
MUI has a lot of eyecandy and unfortunately is helping you to create interfaces with more buttons than your user really wants. If you really think about how the software is used you will find that less is almost always more.
In Amiga software less buttons usually meant no buttons at all. I recall many utilities which were completely menu driven without single button in window except standard close/depth arrange buttons. Preferences system is often completely tooltype driven and visuals are locked to topaz/8.
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MorphOS has multi-select menus too.
I don't see how MUI makes people put too many buttons in the programs. Do you mean because it's very easy to make GUIs with MUI compared to using Gadtools or Reaction? Sure, it's a lot easier for the programmer, so we can get on with coding the important parts of the program and not have to worry about spending too much time programming the GUI for it. It has been like this since the early 90s when most Amiga programmers started using MUI for their programs, and MUI doesn't have any unnecessary eye candy, that's purely up to the user if they want to make their programs look visually appealing insted of keeping the grey, default look. Even the GUI in OWB is based on IBrowse, other MorphOS software is extremely Amiga-like. And once Zune is updated, Aros software will have the same amount of visual configurability as MUI4 in MorphOS. The main thing missing at the moment is the ability to use bitmap frames rather than the default MUI vector ones.
MorphOS can use regular Amiga icons, GlowIcons, NewIcons or PNG icons and they can be single or dual-state, up to 32bit.
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This little blurb helped me out a lot! Iwas always under the asumption that MorphOS was an Amiga-like OS; that it didn't have any real use with Amiga programs. But now I understand how it all fits into the Amiga realm AND can understand why there is such a division with users...
I almost wonder if this could have been AOS if they were able to purchase the name from the begining...
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Q: Who wrote the wikipedia entry for MorphOS? Anyone know?
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I almost wonder if this could have been AOS if they were able to purchase the name from the begining...
Of course it could have. IIRC there were official discussions, but they didn't end up with agreement, as usual. Everyone can have daydreams what would have happened if MorphOS would have got the official name before OS4 was started.
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MorphOS has multi-select menus too.[\QUOTE]
Thanks for pointig it out! I shouldn't have worded my comment to sound like it hasn't. AmigaOS4 has a bad design choice in using a sub menu for showing icons as an additional file. You can't deselect it if you multiselected "show all" before, but you have to close the menu first. Drive me nuts each time - bad default.
MUI doesn't have any unnecessary eye candy, that's purely up to the user[\QUOTE]
MUI was advertising the eyecandy and because people thought "oh, that's pretty" they weren't too shy to even use scrollbars in scrollbars. Which I hate on every Website today.
But of course that doesn't make MUI a bad tool for development.