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Title: I want to create an OS 3.9 Boot floppy to install 3.1
Post by: XDelusion on January 28, 2011, 05:08:42 AM
I want to install WB 3.1 on my 8GB CF card in my 1200. Only OS 3.9 seems capable of doing this as SFS has failed me, thus far, and yes I read the docs and talked it over on the forums plenty.

So what I want to know is if I can make a Boot floppy with OS 3.9 and use it to boot my Amiga, set my partitions then install OS 3.1 on top of that. If so, what files do I need on the floppy from the OS 3.9 distro to make it boot and able to launch HDTools. Beyond that, what tweaks might I have to make to WB 3.1 to make all this work correctly?

Or, is there an easier way around all this?

Thankx!
Title: Re: I want to create an OS 3.9 Boot floppy to install 3.1
Post by: Thomas on January 28, 2011, 08:42:05 AM
Try this version of SFS: http://www.xs4all.nl/~hjohn/SFS184.lha
or this version of FFS: http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/ffstd64

Both should work with an 8 GB drive without further patches.

To make the OS 3.9 FFS or the current version of SFS work with harddrive bigger than 4 GB you need to extract the newer scsi.device from the AmigaOS ROM update or take the one from BB3 or BB4. It needs to be loaded from startup-sequence and causes a reboot on every cold start. It also implies that the boot partition is smaller than 4 GB. With the older versions I linked above you can make one bootable 8 GB partition which covers the entire CF card and they don't need to reboot on startup.
Title: Re: I want to create an OS 3.9 Boot floppy to install 3.1
Post by: XDelusion on January 28, 2011, 06:21:47 PM
Thankx, I'll have a stab at this tonight.
Title: Re: I want to create an OS 3.9 Boot floppy to install 3.1
Post by: A4000_Mad on January 28, 2011, 09:24:44 PM
Quote from: Thomas;610074
Try this version of SFS: http://www.xs4all.nl/~hjohn/SFS184.lha (http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Ehjohn/SFS184.lha)
or this version of FFS: http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/ffstd64

Both should work with an 8 GB drive without further patches.

To make the OS 3.9 FFS or the current version of SFS work with harddrive bigger than 4 GB you need to extract the newer scsi.device from the AmigaOS ROM update or take the one from BB3 or BB4. It needs to be loaded from startup-sequence and causes a reboot on every cold start. It also implies that the boot partition is smaller than 4 GB. With the older versions I linked above you can make one bootable 8 GB partition which covers the entire CF card and they don't need to reboot on startup.

:pint:

Does PFS3 require a newer scsi.device or any additional files or patches for HDD's larger than 4GB, or to have an 8GB or a 16GB CF card as one partition which covers the entire CF card? :confused:
Title: Re: I want to create an OS 3.9 Boot floppy to install 3.1
Post by: Matt_H on January 28, 2011, 10:01:28 PM
Quote from: A4000_Mad;610388
:pint:

Does PFS3 require a newer scsi.device or any additional files or patches for HDD's larger than 4GB, or to have an 8GB or a 16GB CF card as one partition which covers the entire CF card? :confused:


Everything requires an updated scsi.device (or compatible*), since the filesystem sits on top of it. I imagine if you loaded scsi.device via FlashROM and then used a 64bit filesystem on the HD/CF you could get away with a >4GB boot partition, but that'll make emergency recovery all the more difficult...


* Other drive controllers are natively 64bit and don't need to be fixed. I think cybppc.device is one such device, not sure what the others are.
Title: Re: I want to create an OS 3.9 Boot floppy to install 3.1
Post by: Thomas on January 28, 2011, 10:12:59 PM
Quote from: A4000_Mad;610388
:pint:

Does PFS3 require a newer scsi.device or any additional files or patches for HDD's larger than 4GB, or to have an 8GB or a 16GB CF card as one partition which covers the entire CF card? :confused:


If you use PFS3ds (the direct-SCSI version of PFS3) you can use up to 8 GB on the internal IDE bus without additional software. For the 16 GB drive you need a new scsi.device.