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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: orb85750 on January 19, 2011, 08:01:42 PM
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Is there any such place where ideas can be shared, help can be gotten, and little or no nonsense is found?
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Is there any such place where ideas can be shared, help can be gotten, and little or no nonsense is found?
There are development sub forums on here that I've had a positive experience with. And do not forget UtilityBase (http://utilitybase.com) :)
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Yeah, try UtilityBase. It's like the doctor's surgery of Amiga websites. You go there with your problem, wait a long time, finally get some help along with more bad news, and if you ask the doctor for his creative opinion he'll just smile and send you on your way.
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and little or no nonsense is found
You are talking about Amiga development, right? Despite Cammy's bad experience with UtilityBase.com--and it was bad and not her fault--there are several very knowledgeable programmers there that read posts and respond regularly and kindly.
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It certainly is the no-nonsense Amiga development forum, and there are knowledgeable programmers there. Some of them might be kind, some of them will make you feel like you should just give up trying to learn to program for the Amiga.
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It certainly is the no-nonsense Amiga development forum, and there are knowledgeable programmers there. Some of them might be kind, some of them will make you feel like you should just give up trying to learn to program for the Amiga.
I think sites like utilitybase aren't your best bet if you are a learner but are useful if you are already a developer and need help or advice with a specific coding issue. Sadly, a lot of seasoned developers tend to forget what it was like when they didn't know anything and aren't that helpful to newcomers.
Thankfully, however, they're not all like that.
Another problem, and I admit that I fall into this category also, is that Amiga developers, tend to be biased towards C, which, although probably the ideal language for development on the Amiga (with assembler where it is called for), is not a language that is perfectly suited to beginners that want to "see" some action on their screens. This is a void that I feel tools like BlitzBasic are good at filling. Learning to program the amiga in C, first requires learning C itself which can be a bit of a motivation killer when you realise you won't write anything remotely graphical or event driven for a long while.
My apologies for the awful C puns in the above paragraph.
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Amiga developers, tend to be biased towards C, which, although probably the ideal language for development on the Amiga (with assembler where it is called for), is not a language that is perfectly suited to beginners that want to "see" some action on their screens.
Not to mention that there is C, and then there is Amiga C. BPTRs, Open(), Printf(), geta6(), register function parameter passing, pragma/alib, stack management, NEAR/FAR, word-alignment... all these things which your compiler may take care of for you, even when you realize you need it not to :)
Still, I'd rather use SAS/C (with its CodeProbe debugger, and a set of the printed manuals) to learn C than the behemoth GCC any day.
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Not to mention that there is C, and then there is Amiga C. BPTRs, Open(), Printf(), geta6(), register function parameter passing, pragma/alib, stack management, NEAR/FAR, word-alignment... all these things which your compiler may take care of for you, even when you realize you need it not to :)
Indeed. Once you step away from portable C into the realm of system-specific coding, you'll find many such issues, not just on Amiga either.
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And those are just artifacts of the Amiga's pre-ISO C past. All the most recent compilers are shipped with standard C libraries (C89).
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There are development sub forums on here that I've had a positive experience with. And do not forget UtilityBase (http://utilitybase.com) :)
Every time I go to utilitybase.com, my AVAST alerts me that it's blocking malware. Is that site infected??????
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Every time I go to utilitybase.com, my AVAST alerts me that it's blocking malware. Is that site infected??????
Not as far as I know...
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Does anyone else have AVAST installed and activated on their Windows machine? If so, please let me know if you get the malware detection when you go to utilitybase.com.