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Title: I'm coming back
Post by: sicky on January 15, 2011, 07:54:58 PM
I have decided to return to the Amiga, purely for fun and a hobby. Got to sort out an OS4 machine for myself soon, can't wait!
Title: Re: I'm coming back
Post by: orb85750 on January 15, 2011, 08:06:24 PM
Of course, Amiga is just too much fun to leave.  Don't know if OS4 has quite the same appeal as the classics.
Title: Re: I'm coming back
Post by: Karlos on January 15, 2011, 08:06:43 PM
Quote from: sicky;606888
I have decided to return to the Amiga, purely for fun and a hobby. Got to sort out an OS4 machine for myself soon, can't wait!


Cue various next gen advocates from each camp...

This is control, you are cleared for incendiary run on target...
:lol:
Title: Re: I'm coming back
Post by: TheBilgeRat on January 15, 2011, 08:20:27 PM
[flameon]

Of course, everyone knows that AROS is the future of Amiga.  MorphOS is silly and AOS4 is old and smells of cheese.

[/flameon]

:lol:
Title: Re: I'm coming back
Post by: Buzzfuzz on January 15, 2011, 08:23:42 PM
To be honest, I like what I am seeing in 4.1 Classic but this would require a Mediator board with Radeon 9200 256MB.
 
On top of an A1200 with Blizzard PPC or Amiga 4000 with Cyberstorm PPC.
I'm lucky to have the last one in a Micronik tower.
But to spent another 420 euro on a Mediator board and a 120 for OS 4.1 ?
I really have to think hard on that one.
Title: Re: I'm coming back
Post by: nicholas on January 15, 2011, 09:39:59 PM
Quote from: Buzzfuzz;606894
To be honest, I like what I am seeing in 4.1 Classic but this would require a Mediator board with Radeon 9200 256MB.
 
On top of an A1200 with Blizzard PPC or Amiga 4000 with Cyberstorm PPC.
I'm lucky to have the last one in a Micronik tower.
But to spent another 420 euro on a Mediator board and a 120 for OS 4.1 ?
I really have to think hard on that one.


AROS for BPPC would be nice.
Title: Re: I'm coming back
Post by: Iggy on January 15, 2011, 09:46:31 PM
Quote from: TheBilgeRat;606893
[flameon]

Of course, everyone knows that AROS is the future of Amiga.  MorphOS is silly and AOS4 is old and smells of cheese.

[/flameon]

:lol:



Absolutely, after all, who would want an OS that actually works?
Title: Re: I'm coming back
Post by: TheBilgeRat on January 15, 2011, 09:48:01 PM
Quote from: Iggy;606911
Absolutely, after all, who would want an OS that actually works?

No one!  Productivity is overrated. :lol:
Title: Re: I'm coming back
Post by: mbrantley on January 15, 2011, 09:52:00 PM
Quote from: sicky;606888
I have decided to return to the Amiga, purely for fun and a hobby. Got to sort out an OS4 machine for myself soon, can't wait!


Yea! Welcome back. Purely an anecdotal observation, but I used to read threads about people leaving. Now I'm enjoying the ones in which people come back. Perhaps we're growing again, just a little.
Title: Re: I'm coming back
Post by: spirantho on January 15, 2011, 10:08:32 PM
Prometheus works probably better under OS 4 - certainly it's what I use and I think the OS4 dev team do too. Finding one may be tricky though... but a lot cheaper than 400-odd.
Title: Re: I'm coming back
Post by: A1260 on January 15, 2011, 10:12:03 PM
Quote from: sicky;606888
I have decided to return to the Amiga, purely for fun and a hobby. Got to sort out an OS4 machine for myself soon, can't wait!


welcome back! and enjoy your os4 machine :-)
Title: Re: I'm coming back
Post by: Karlos on January 15, 2011, 10:12:45 PM
Quote from: TheBilgeRat;606912
No one!  Productivity is overrated. :lol:


It wasn't bad, for ECS ;)
Title: Re: I'm coming back
Post by: TheBilgeRat on January 15, 2011, 10:18:13 PM
Quote from: Karlos;606916
It wasn't bad, for ECS ;)

BURRA BURRA BURRA!


RAGEQUIT!!

:python:
Title: Re: I'm coming back
Post by: Pyromania on January 15, 2011, 10:47:01 PM
Welcome back
Title: Re: I'm coming back
Post by: sicky on January 16, 2011, 10:48:11 AM
Quote from: A1260;606915
welcome back! and enjoy your os4 machine :-)


Thank you, looking forward to being in the scene again
Title: Re: I'm coming back
Post by: A4000_Mad on January 16, 2011, 11:19:01 AM
Welcome back sicky :)

Hopes it's ok to ask some OS4 Classic questions here....

Do you need OS4.0 Classic installed first before you can install OS4.1 Classic?

Will OS4.1 Classic work with GFX cards like the Cybervision 64 and Picasso IV or must you have the Radeon card?

Thanks,

:pint:
Title: Re: I'm coming back
Post by: Karlos on January 16, 2011, 11:38:48 AM
Quote from: A4000_Mad;607003
Welcome back sicky :)

Hopes it's ok to ask some OS4 Classic questions here....

Do you need OS4.0 Classic installed first before you can install OS4.1 Classic?


As far as I know it's a standalone release.

Quote
Will OS4.1 Classic work with GFX cards like the Cybervision 64 and Picasso IV or must you have the Radeon card?


You certainly need a Radeon card if you want to have fun with compositing. As for older cards, I can't say, only having tested it on BVision, but I can't see why any of the above legacy cards wouldn't work provided they had working P96 drivers to begin with. Perhaps someone with one of those cards can clarify.
Title: Re: I'm coming back
Post by: Einstein on January 16, 2011, 02:04:51 PM
Quote from: sicky;606888
I have decided to return to the Amiga, purely for fun and a hobby. Got to sort out an OS4 machine for myself soon, can't wait!


For Amiga fun I suggest to keep yourself inside the Amiga68k/*UAE box, not outside.
Title: Re: I'm coming back
Post by: Varthall on January 16, 2011, 02:11:24 PM
Quote from: Einstein;607019
For Amiga fun I suggest to keep yourself inside the Amiga68k/*UAE box, not outside.

I'd suggest the opposite instead, I find doing stuff for OS4 to be more fun.

Varthall
Title: Re: I'm coming back
Post by: Iggy on January 16, 2011, 04:36:44 PM
Quote from: Varthall;607020
I'd suggest the opposite instead, I find doing stuff for OS4 to be more fun.

Varthall

 Yep, I'd second that. I don't run a lot of legacy apps myself (in UAE or with OS friendly apps - directly).
There's some neat PPC specific software.
Title: Re: I'm coming back
Post by: runequester on January 16, 2011, 04:51:49 PM
Quote from: Einstein;607019
For Amiga fun I suggest to keep yourself inside the Amiga68k/*UAE box, not outside.


I guess Im confused how a real amiga with powerpc installed is less amiga than some PC from dell running an emulator
Title: Re: I'm coming back
Post by: Einstein on January 16, 2011, 05:27:52 PM
Quote from: runequester;607041
I guess Im confused how a real amiga with powerpc installed is less amiga than some PC from dell running an emulator


A PPC expansion card, as opposed to a PPC machine, is a hardware *extension* to the *Amiga*, and I'm guessing he wants to get the latter, for which reason I gave a suggestion. I wouldn't mind a PPC expansion (on a working 68k machine) to play around with, but I wouldn't even pay for that.
Regarding emulator, well, the emulator can run hardware banging programs/games/demos. It might be virtual, but that's Amiga to me; running Amiga software, including aforementioned hw banging ones is the deciding factor for me. If I'm to spend most my time in a *UAE box on top of PPC "amiga like" OS to get my Amiga needs then that PPC + OS is not an Amiga for me. For that reason I stick to any of the mainstream x86 "amiga unlike" OSs + *UAE for maximum amount of functionality, flexibility, apps and Amiga fun.
Title: Re: I'm coming back
Post by: Iggy on January 16, 2011, 05:54:29 PM
Quote from: Einstein;607048
A PPC expansion card, as opposed to a PPC machine, is a hardware *extension* to the *Amiga*, and I'm guessing he wants to get the latter, for which reason I gave a suggestion. I wouldn't mind a PPC expansion (on a working 68k machine) to play around with, but I wouldn't even pay for that.
Regarding emulator, well, the emulator can run hardware banging programs/games/demos. It might be virtual, but that's Amiga to me; running Amiga software, including aforementioned hw banging ones is the deciding factor for me. If I'm to spend most my time in a *UAE box on top of PPC "amiga like" OS to get my Amiga needs then that PPC + OS is not an Amiga for me. For that reason I stick to any of the mainstream x86 "amiga unlike" OSs + *UAE for maximum amount of functionality, flexibility, apps and Amiga fun.

He has a good point. If your primary interest is legacy software then either run it on legacy hardware or use emulation. A PPC OS is a neat platform for carrying software development forward, but when running legacy software its not doing much more than an emulator.
Title: Re: I'm coming back
Post by: sicky on January 16, 2011, 06:16:23 PM
Quote from: Varthall;607020
I'd suggest the opposite instead, I find doing stuff for OS4 to be more fun.

Varthall


Yes, it's OS4 I miss, I have OS 3.1 installed on my Mac running via EUAE
Title: Re: I'm coming back
Post by: amoskodare on January 16, 2011, 06:34:08 PM
Quote from: Varthall;607020
I'd suggest the opposite instead, I find doing stuff for OS4 to be more fun.

Varthall
+1