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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Topic started by: HammerD on January 06, 2011, 07:09:52 PM
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I have updated the Hyperion blog with a new AmigaOS 4.1 Classic promo (unofficial) video.
http://blog.hyperion-entertainment.biz
Enjoy and turn up your speakers :)
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hmmm.. RAID controller in the pci bus? So, is the coming update supporting PCI RAID controllers SATA cards? Sounds interesting...
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hmmm.. RAID controller in the pci bus? So, is the coming update supporting PCI RAID controllers SATA cards? Sounds interesting...
The SATA card shows up on the PCI bus as a "Raid" controller...I think at one time there was a Raid driver but I'm not sure if that is working with it or not. So it is actually a Silicon Image 3512 based PCI SATA card that is showing up with a 200GB hard disk attached.
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I got all excited about AOSC when came out, I was gonna run milky tracker but it was just way too slow.
Hmm I wonder which would be quicker?
My current B-vision or dump that and use a Radeon card in the PCI slot?
Not to go too far off topic...
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I got all excited about AOSC when came out, I was gonna run milky tracker but it was just way too slow.
Hmm I wonder which would be quicker?
My current B-vision or dump that and use a Radeon card in the PCI slot?
Not to go too far off topic...
BVision will be OK but if you want compositing on the desktop (transparency, etc...), not to mention much greater video memory you will want a Radeon.
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The BVision is based on the Permedia2. It's totally outclassed by any supported Radeon, both in terms of available memory and speed*.
However, I do still have a special soft spot for the BVision card. When I first got it, it totally transformed my everyday usage of the A1200, moreso than the PPC card it attached to. Seeing actual hardware accelerated 3D on the machine (even if it is laughable by current standards) was a buzz :)
*An exception is in the bus transfer speed from the CPU to the video RAM. For an A1200, CPU access to devices on the Mediator1200's PCI backbone is considerably slower than the CPU -> BVision. This may mean that some applications run a bit quicker on the BVision. The only obvious one that springs to mind is CPU-decoded video playback.
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The BVision is based on the Permedia2. It's totally outclassed by any supported Radeon, both in terms of available memory and speed*.
However, I do still have a special soft spot for the BVision card. When I first got it, it totally transformed my everyday usage of the A1200, moreso than the PPC card it attached to. Seeing actual hardware accelerated 3D on the machine (even if it is laughable by current standards) was a buzz :)
*An exception is in the bus transfer speed from the CPU to the video RAM. For an A1200, CPU access to devices on the Mediator1200's PCI backbone is considerably slower than the CPU -> BVision. This may mean that some applications run a bit quicker on the BVision. The only obvious one that springs to mind is CPU-decoded video playback.
That is very true :) I think on BVision/CVision you pull about 15-20MB/sec video bus speed whereas on Mediator/Prometheus it's more like 5-8MB/sec.
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Nice looking forward to using the latest versions of TuneNet and scumm on my A4000T.
That is very true :) I think on BVision/CVision you pull about 15-20MB/sec video bus speed whereas on Mediator/Prometheus it's more like 5-8MB/sec.
Shame there isn't some adapter for connecting the radeon directly to the CSPPC expansion bus.
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I got all excited about AOSC when came out, I was gonna run milky tracker but it was just way too slow.
Hmm I wonder which would be quicker?
My current B-vision or dump that and use a Radeon card in the PCI slot?
Not to go too far off topic...
If your gonna dump your B-vision... DONT... :(
If you want to sell it I'd be more than happy to give you a good price for it... :)
(Karlos still won't part with his... :()
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(Karlos still won't part with his... :()
You'd have to wrest it from my cold, dead hands. I don't even have any PAL capable display devices to survive without it.
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Trust me, I've been to The Goose's house. He doesn't dump anything! :)
If your gonna dump your B-vision... DONT... :(
If you want to sell it I'd be more than happy to give you a good price for it... :)
(Karlos still won't part with his... :()
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You'd have to wrest it from my cold, dead hands. I don't even have any PAL capable display devices to survive without it.
One hitman on the way to your house even as we speak... ;)
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Trust me, I've been to The Goose's house. He doesn't dump anything! :)
What's it like on the moon... :)
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One hitman on the way to your house even as we speak... ;)
Many have tried, few have survived to tell the tale.
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Shame there isn't some adapter for connecting the radeon directly to the CSPPC expansion bus.
There is: the GRexx PCI that was designed by Phase5. Sadly, I don't think it's supported in OS4 (part of the original red/blue platform split, the GRexx is AFAIK, supported by MOS), or is likely to be in future. I'd love to be wrong about that though. Speaking from a pure hardware perspective, it was a far better solution for the BlizzardPPC than the Mediator1200 IMNSHO.
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Many have tried, few have survived to tell the tale.
Ok... Plan B then...
I'll send Kesa round with his army of Nazi Zombies and the giant floating turd... that should do the trick... :lol:
(puts the willies up me just thinking about it... :eek:)
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There is: the GRexx PCI that was designed by Phase5. Sadly, I don't think it's supported in OS4 (part of the original red/blue platform split, the GRexx is AFAIK, supported by MOS), or is likely to be in future. I'd love to be wrong about that though. Speaking from a pure hardware perspective, it was a far better solution for the BlizzardPPC than the Mediator1200 IMNSHO.
There was only a very limited amount of these ever produced, besides it wouldn't work on my A4000T. I'm more thinking of a single adapter for connecting the Radeon to the CSPPC expansion bus, but this probably also needs documentation and be expensive to produce.
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Jens should totally get on it :D
A new PCI expansion board for the BlizzardPPC/CSPPC expansion bus for which drivers for 3.x/4.x/MOS etc. can be independently developed.
I'd kill for such an expansion ;)
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If your gonna dump your B-vision... DONT... :(
If you want to sell it I'd be more than happy to give you a good price for it... :)
(Karlos still won't part with his... :()
I still keep pondering dumping my bppc and bvis, I awt to get it out the wardrobe and fire it up. I usually get this feelin when I've spent 700 quid on some dumb hifi. It will pass.
So far, the effort to wire the power supply up is so yawning....and that the tower case is it sits in is my oscillating fan stand. (its sad dust gathering life for a bppc and bvis)
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The BVision is based on the Permedia2. It's totally outclassed by any supported Radeon, both in terms of available memory and speed*.
However, I do still have a special soft spot for the BVision card. When I first got it, it totally transformed my everyday usage of the A1200, moreso than the PPC card it attached to. Seeing actual hardware accelerated 3D on the machine (even if it is laughable by current standards) was a buzz :)
*An exception is in the bus transfer speed from the CPU to the video RAM. For an A1200, CPU access to devices on the Mediator1200's PCI backbone is considerably slower than the CPU -> BVision. This may mean that some applications run a bit quicker on the BVision. The only obvious one that springs to mind is CPU-decoded video playback.
Hmm, that's kinda what I thought, the tight integration of b-vision has its advantages.
Buuut, the Radeon has a few too. The Mediator at it's fasts runs @ 66Mhz. Is that about normal for the period of PCs back then? I think so...
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You're problems will be solved earth man, with the laaazzzzer:
http://video.adultswim.com/aqua-teen-hunger-force/the-mooninites-fire-on-carl.html
[youtube]o3AB8f7Rxes[/youtube]
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Wow... thought I was finally about to find out what this "Adult Swim" thing was all about... :)
until I clicked on the link only to be greeted by a message telling me the content is not allowed in Europe or the UK... :(
Must be top secret or something... :(
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Wow... thought I was finally about to find out what this "Adult Swim" thing was all about... :)
until I clicked on the link only to be greeted by a message telling me the content is not allowed in Europe or the UK... :(
Must be top secret or something... :(
No adult swim? That is wrong. Youtube above..
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One hitman on the way to your house even as we speak... ;)
If I've told you once I've told you a thousand times Franko, I can't kill my brother. Not even for that rare Scottish three pound note you offered! ;)
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No adult swim? That is wrong. Youtube above..
Shazbutt... I'm not sure after viewing that if I've taken too many of me meds or forgot to take them in the first place... :eek:
@ nicholas
Was that a 3 pound note I sent you, me hearts went all of a flutter now, thought that was a two bob note I sent, gawd me wallets having palpitations now... is there a Doctor in the house...
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Shazbutt... I'm not sure after viewing that if I've taken too many of me meds or forgot to take them in the first place... :eek:
@ nicholas
Was that a 3 pound note I sent you, me hearts went all of a flutter now, thought that was a two bob note I sent, gawd me wallets having palpitations now... is there a Doctor in the house...
You rang ! Ma lawd ! (cheers Shaz) ;)
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Ok, I'm sure an English pound = an American dollar but what does a bob equal?
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Ok, I'm sure an English pound = an American dollar but what does a bob equal?
1 Bob == 1 Shilling == 5 New Pence
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Watch it boyo! Or I'll give you a pound-n' on yer bob!:roflmao:
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Ok, I'm sure an English pound = an American dollar but what does a bob equal?
Absence of pie.
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Absence of pie.
For shame! Karlos, I expected better of you. ;)
Are we not an Amiga forum?
Bob = Blitter object
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WTF! it just hit me when I saw the video again BUT is it possible that classics can now run Timberwolf & Blender under OS4.1 ...WoW:shocked::)
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Back on topic... While I'm happy for any amiga development still remaining, and I can see the attraction to getting 4.1 on classic, I don't see the use...
The most powerful ppc upgrade cards for amiga classics are just too low spec to do anything on once the os is loaded. Great you can load workbench and adjust your prefs... Make a pretty workbench...But you can't even run milkytracker with 4 channels to edit amiga era mods, or anything else for that matter.
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Back on topic... While I'm happy for any amiga development still remaining, and I can see the attraction to getting 4.1 on classic, I don't see the use...
The most powerful ppc upgrade cards for amiga classics are just too low spec to do anything on once the os is loaded. Great you can load workbench and adjust your prefs... Make a pretty workbench...But you can't even run milkytracker with 4 channels to edit amiga era mods, or anything else for that matter.
uhhh...what's wrong with OctaMED Sound Studio, ProTracker, Audio Evolution4, hell even 64 tracker programs that run great under OS4.1u2:confused:
& if it can run Timberwolf even with minimum a barebones setup man that's just stunning
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Ok, I'm sure an English pound = an American dollar but what does a bob equal?
1 bob = 12d = 5p = 1 shilling = 4 thruppeny bits = 48 farthings = 1gn - 1L = half a florin = 3 groats = 2 tanners
btw 1 English pound equals about $1.56 (today at least) :-D
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1 bob = 12d = 5p = 1 shilling = 4 thruppeny bits = 48 farthings = 1gn - 1L = half a florin = 3 groats = 2 tanners
btw 1 English pound equals about $1.56 (today at least) :-D
You forgot 5 bob = 1 crown. I miss the old £sd system...
These decimal things are just not the same.... We've still got the old six pence coins circulating here in Oz, they're labelled 5 cents of course. We also have the old shillings and florins, but they're just annoying in their weight and size now. There's nothing you can buy for 10 or 20 cents.
(http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/6292/eniac.jpg)
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1 bob = 12d = 5p = 1 shilling = 4 thruppeny bits = 48 farthings = 1gn - 1L = half a florin = 3 groats = 2 tanners
btw 1 English pound equals about $1.56 (today at least) :-D
:angry::angry::angry::angry::angry::angry::angry::angry:
Why I aughta...
OK oKok... what I MEANT was that the English pound is LIKE the American Dollar. Sheesh! Ask a simple question and you get, well:furious:
:lol::lol::lol::lol:
you all are too funny!
Now that it is all clear, what WOULD be the equilivent of the bob? a quarter? a nickel? Five dollars?
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Back on topic... While I'm happy for any amiga development still remaining, and I can see the attraction to getting 4.1 on classic, I don't see the use...
The most powerful ppc upgrade cards for amiga classics are just too low spec to do anything on once the os is loaded. Great you can load workbench and adjust your prefs... Make a pretty workbench...But you can't even run milkytracker with 4 channels to edit amiga era mods, or anything else for that matter.
Exactly. Mine is a 200Mhz 603 and it won't do much more than workbench...
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:angry::angry::angry::angry::angry::angry::angry::angry:
Why I aughta...
OK oKok... what I MEANT was that the English pound is LIKE the American Dollar. Sheesh! Ask a simple question and you get, well:furious:
:lol::lol::lol::lol:
you all are too funny!
Now that it is all clear, what WOULD be the equilivent of the bob? a quarter? a nickel? Five dollars?
A 5 cent coin if there is such a thing.
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Exactly. Mine is a 200Mhz 603 and it won't do much more than workbench...
I dunno, when I start it up, once booted my CPU meter docky thing shows it idling along at no more than 5% CPU use.
I think if there is a problem with the classic it is that most of the OS4 native software so far has been developed on faster systems and doesn't necessarily scale down well to 603 and secondly, the legacy 3.x software you might have for 68K doesn't necessarily run faster than it did on your real 68K and in some cases may run slower (such is the way with emulation, particularly on a CPU not orders of magnitude faster than the emulated one).