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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Gaming => Topic started by: Rodney on December 11, 2003, 05:43:04 AM

Title: IS there someone making Open Source clone of "The Settlers"?
Post by: Rodney on December 11, 2003, 05:43:04 AM
Inspired by - the "IS there someone making amiga port for Civilization II" thread.

So... Is there?
Title: Re: IS there someone making Open Source clone of "The Settlers"?
Post by: utri007 on December 11, 2003, 07:20:11 AM
As far I know settler isn't open source, like civilization II is
Title: Re: IS there someone making Open Source clone of "The Settlers"?
Post by: mantisspider on December 11, 2003, 07:58:18 AM
The Settlers is out for the Amiga. Why not just play the original?
Title: Re: IS there someone making Open Source clone of "The Settlers"?
Post by: Rodney on December 11, 2003, 08:28:10 AM
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The Settlers is out for the Amiga. Why not just play the original?


Because OSS is cool and i dont have an Amiga. It would be good to know if the Settlers worked with OS4 though. Although, it was a 1200 AGA game so maybe it wont! :(

It might work with AROS though, right?

Which brings me to a question, if hardware hitting apps can run on UAE, why dosnt AmigaOS just use those parts of AROS that allow those sort of programs to run? Something to dow ith the licence?
Title: Re: IS there someone making Open Source clone of "The Settlers"?
Post by: mantisspider on December 11, 2003, 09:50:52 AM
Whats OSS?
How do you use amiga games if you dont have an amiga?

Get yourself Settlers on the PC then. Have you tried foundation?
Title: Re: IS there someone making Open Source clone of "The Settlers"?
Post by: StevenJGore on December 11, 2003, 10:17:58 AM
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it was a 1200 AGA game


IIRC, The Settlers was an ECS game, and there wasn't an AGA version. Pity though, because I spent many hours at Uni playing two-player Settlers!
Title: Re: IS there someone making Open Source clone of "The Settlers"?
Post by: Lozrus on December 11, 2003, 10:42:27 AM
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It might work with AROS though, right?


No, but an open source Settlers clone which is ported to the Amiga could also be ported to AROS.


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Which brings me to a question, if hardware hitting apps can run on UAE, why dosnt AmigaOS just use those parts of AROS that allow those sort of programs to run? Something to dow ith the licence?


Hardware hitting apps can not run on AROS, unloss AROS is running on original hardware. AROS is an Amiga OS clone, not a hardware emulation like UAE. This means that no Amiga binaries will ever run on AROS on x86 or PPC hardware. In theory Amiga binaries could run if AROS was running on 68k based hardware (It would have to be a real Amiga it the software accesses the custom chips though).

In short, the only way of running Classic Amiga apps/games which bang the hardware is through UAE or on a real Amiga. This is true for Amiga OS4, Morph OS, AROS and Amithlon.

AROS doesn't even have 68k emulation (which AmigaOS4.0, MorphOS, Amithlon and UAE all have) so it can only run Amiga 68k applications if it is running on a real 68k processor. In the future it probably will get a 68k emulator which will bring its Amiga compatibility in line with OS4, MOS and Amithlon.

Amiga games were rarely designed with multitasking environments in mind anyway, I think you will always be better off running them under UAE to prevent them trashing your system.
Title: Re: IS there someone making Open Source clone of "The Settlers"?
Post by: Rodney on December 11, 2003, 01:01:03 PM
OSS = Open Source Software

I only used Amiga games before i sold the A1200. And maybe a little while after taht with the A500 and CD32.

I think i did have settlers on the PC when i had a job, but there wasnt enough time to play :( like when all i had to do was homework for schoo, which never got done because i was playing the settlers :)

I've seen foundation on the website and it looks awsome. Did they ever release that game for the PC, if not, why? Damn that looked sweet, graphix where on par or better with the original settlers too... Possibly on par with Settlers 2 although they were very similar to Settlers 1.

I wouldnt mind knowning if Foudation was going to be ported to OS4/Morphos or if its going to be continued to be developed. I dont think its goingt o because of something i saw on the site saying something about the last update/version/something.
Title: Re: IS there someone making Open Source clone of "The Settlers"?
Post by: Rodney on December 11, 2003, 01:02:51 PM
Ok, than i guess you where able to play ECS games on the A1200? That shows you how much i knew about the Amiga's. I assumed AGA was the chipset after ECS and thus wouldnt have been found in the A1200!?!? And thus would have made those games unplayable?
Title: Re: IS there someone making Open Source clone of "The Settlers"?
Post by: Rodney on December 11, 2003, 01:04:32 PM
I know what AROS is but UAE comes with it and they're planning on integrating it into the OS/distro. So i was wondering if it would work when/if UAE is working in it!
Title: Re: IS there someone making Open Source clone of "The Settlers"?
Post by: AmiNTT on December 11, 2003, 02:02:04 PM
The Settlers is one of my all-time favorite games.  It is an ECS game - it runs on my 3000 quite well, thank-you.  

I still ever few weeks take a break and play a game.

I would really enjoy seeing this game continued or updated..
Title: Re: IS there someone making Open Source clone of "The Settlers"?
Post by: haymiggan on December 11, 2003, 02:10:26 PM
Yeah, a special-edition would be super cool!
But I guess there's no chance for that legally...

Make it work with RTG would be awesome!
 :-D
Title: Re: IS there someone making Open Source clone of "The Settlers"?
Post by: bloodline on December 11, 2003, 03:01:03 PM
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Rodney wrote:
I know what AROS is but UAE comes with it and they're planning on integrating it into the OS/distro. So i was wondering if it would work when/if UAE is working in it!


One of the UAE integration ideas we have is that it could be a simple 68k emualtor for OS APPs and then be a fullscreen emualtion for Hardware bashing games.

If you look at the latestTeamAROS bounty , the first thing we want to do is get AROS to run 68k Apps just by launching them in the normal way rather than going through UAE (That is to say an Auto starting UAE).