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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: XDelusion on December 14, 2002, 08:32:21 PM
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Which would you consider the best, meaning easy to use, supporting more than 256 colors, and feature filled.
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TrueBrilliance.
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AlphaPaint was always a good one. If you have a Toaster the output shows up NTSC.
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ArtEffect, followed by Photogenics.
A fast amiga is better for these ( 030 @ 50 mhz is a bit too slow). the work very fast on my AmigaXL box :-)
also a computer drawing pen is a great add-on.
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ArtEffect, followed by Photogenics.
I thought those two programs fell in the "Image manipulation" catagory ?? :-o
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photogenics is my preferred choice followed by 256 ppaint. And for those weird effects ArtEffects.
Never got into brilliance or XI Paint. :-D
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TVPaint
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Best 8 bit is unquestionably Brilliance 2.0 - 24 bit is TV Paint hands down.
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I like Perfect paint as i has some nice little effects
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No doubt Deluxe Paint V (see avatar).
Never had any graphics card, so haven't tried any true colour
stuff.
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SlimJim
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If you spent a fortnight getting to know brilliance's routines ... Your view on DPaint would RAPIDLY change !!
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I'm a big fan of OpalPaint, which requires an Opalvision card. Recently I managed to get TVpaint to work (it was my fault - asleep at the helm), and I have to say that it is fantastic.
I've been trying to decide what to do when I get my XE - I find Opalpaint so handy for somethings (rub throughs for instance) that I'll want to keep a "classic" amiga around.
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Brilliance is much faster and undo/redo feat is limited
only by memory. DPaint has only one level of undo/redo
Personal Paint has good stuff, but lack of antialasing
and only vertical and horizontal gradient fill made it
incomplete. PPaint supports lots of image formats.
Personal Paint is only one of 8bit Painters that run on
my gfx card.
my pick:
best 8bit = Brilliance (shame that does not supports gfx cards)
most complete 24bit = Perfect Paint
best feeling of painting = TV Paint(only one level of undo/redo - shame)
Only one that supports preasure (good for tablets)
This matter made me think about makeing one big
article about it! On line!
Ponos - translated from Croatian to English = Pride
Ponos - translated from Greek to English = Pain
Ponos - meaning anything else ?
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I use many programs for doing my 2D graphics. I`ve used a lot of the usual things.
TVPaint. Kicks butt in so many ways its not funny. Its like drawing/paint properly. Something
which is handy. It does show its age a tiny bit though. Only one undo, but it has a cunning
alternate redo feature which operates differently from the usual one. One 3 layers. This can be
a pain when doing complex things. You have to work your way around that by doing it in bits. It
has some filters etc, but its not really about that. Its for pure drawing. It has the lot, chalk,
spray, pen, pencil etc. All of them have an optional velocity feature so the faster you go the
thinner the line gets, for a more realistic feel. Shame it doesn`t support my nice graphics
tablets pressure thing, but hey its easy to change the pressure manually anyway.
DPaint V. Old now, but still has its uses. Good at animation still. Still recognised in the games
industry after all these years, so it must be good. :-)
Perfect Paint. Quite a simple program in my opinion. It has its uses here and there, but I can
recreate a lot of what it can do in TVPaint etc. This has replaced the spiral, patterny thing from
DPaint in my arsenal of programs though. It has some animation features, which i`m yet to fiddle
with. I will have to download the new version and have a see. This program could be useful for
somethings.
ImageFX. Horrible to paint with, but damn good at effects etc.
ImageStudio. Good for quick batch image conversion etc. Also good to quickly crop/size and change
the colour depth of images. Not a brilliant program, but I use it here and there.
Candyfactory. Fast, fun and good at everything it does. Realtime lighting and bumpmapping on logos/
textures. It has more possibilities that you would think.
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I'd have to put in a word for Cloanto's PPaint in terms of Floyd-Steinberg dithering. Often you can do a great anti-aliased image in TVPaint (free for download from our site, btw -
http://www.amigau.com/c-graphics/tvpaint.htm)
and then dither it down to a 64 color GIF in PPaint very easily. For whatever reason, while PPaint can read JPEGs no problem, I've never seen where it can actually *save* in JPEG format. . .
kevin orme
amiga university
www.amigau.com
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TV Paint kicks ass. It is extremely powerful and the learning curve isn't too steep!
Brilliance 2.0 was nice as well for it's day, but for a straight up 24bit paint package TV Paint cannot be beat.
regards,
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The_Editor wrote:
If you spent a fortnight getting to know brilliance's routines ... Your view on DPaint would RAPIDLY change !!
I have used Brilliance 2.0 quite a bit too. It's very good in many
ways. But I still prefer using DPaint V for most graphics
work. The fast smoothing mode in combination with a much
better interface and supreme animation features win the
race for me. I work a lot in HAM8 too you know... ;-)
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SlimJim
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DPaint 2. :-P Okay, seriously. I use the latest version of Photogenics to prepare images for Pagestream.
AmiGod
Hey, not bad for message #100. It only took me (almost) 10 months. :-D
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I really like fxPaint. And this program is still active developed -
there is a native version for morphos and amithlon, it supports WarpOS
and PowerUP. As soon as AmigaOS4 is finished there will be a native
version too.
Easy to use and lots of effects. It's similar to photogenics.
(iospirit (http://www.iospirit.de/fxpaint))
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DPaint 4 was great!
It had HAM mode as well as the other older resolutions, animation and morphing. For a programme that ran on a bog standard A500 I think thats pretty cool. :-D ;-) :-D
:pint:
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FXPaint is ok from what I have used of it in the past (v1.5) although its interface does seem to be a bit back to front for my liking (can never work out how to do a particular effect in it! :-/ ), However, I do like its nifty little html image slideshow thingymebob creator facility. That looks to have been improved in v2 also.
For me though, I have got to give my vote to the excellent ArtEffect v4. Its features have given me the ability to do the things I have wanted to be able to do in many other programs but been unable to work out. Unlimited layers and undos and reasonably quick too mean its definately the program of choice for me :-) (used on both of my websites listed below)
:-D
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Arteffect 4 for me also, with gaps filled by Photogenics.
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You can't beat TV Paint for the price.
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Depends a lot on what you actually want to do of course. We used the Ami professionaly for a long time, still use it with our DPS PAR, no longer for drawing :boohoo:, we're on Aura for that (descending from TV paint if I'm not mistaken). Always had the best results with the Dpaint-ADpro combo. The other programs mentioned here may be more user friendly though.
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Digging into ancient history, I have to say that the paint program
that stuck me to the Amiga was NewTek's DigiPaint(3). I'm fairly
certain that it became TVPaint... PhotonPaint was interesting. In
the end, I got the most use out of DPaint and PPaint though.
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TrueBrilliance (?) was great fun to use.
Photogenics is very powerful indeed but I find it a bit counter intuitive (too much time around adobe products? :-) ).
ImageFX isnt much cop for painting IME.
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It depends on what you want to do...
I wouldn't consider programs like ImageFX, ArtEffects (or even Photogenics!) as paint programs per se. So I'd have to go with TV-Paint (especially if you can get a compatible tablet).
TV-Paint is superior to all other Amiga grpahics apps I've tried when it comes to speed and pixel control.
Perhaps you should consider a combo: TV-Paint and a complementary image processing app (I'd recommend ImageFX any time of the day).