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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: x56h34 on December 20, 2010, 02:19:03 PM
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Hi guys,
I've noticed that on Individual Computers' website it says that "Indivision AGA MK2" is in the works. Does anyone know when it will be released, how will it differ from the original, and finally if it will support the A4000 as well? (its description mentions only A4000T and A1200 support, from what it seems).
Furthermore, does any dealer still carry the original 4000D version?
Thanks!
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My understanding is that it will be available sometime next year, connector will be DVI-I, and it will have improved memory performance (vsynced 75Hz PAL mode for us CRT junkies).
More info in this EAB thread (http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=55980).
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Yeah there has been no new information since months on this.. an update on progress would be nice.
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I head it is due out around March. There will be the A1200/A4000T and A4000D/CD32 versions.
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I head it is due out around March. There will be the A1200/A4000T and A4000D/CD32 versions.
Most interesting bit....it may be more secure this time around :)
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At Vesalia http://www.vesalia.de/e_indivisionaga4000d.htm :
Indivision AGA 4000D/CD32
Flickerfixer for Amiga 4000 and CD32
The Indivision AGA 4000D shown in the picture is a prototype board, the actual product available in March will be blue instead of white.
(http://www.vesalia.de/pic/indivisionaga4000d.jpg)
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I will get one when they do come out, will be nice to be able to hook my Amiga up to a DVI flat panel. :)
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You can pre-order with Vesalia. My guess is that they buy a certain quantity from IC based on the number of pre-orders + a guesstimate of sale.
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A scandoubler for my 4000T? Count me in. I can't wait to get rid of the clunky external on mine (it keeps getting bumped off the connector since there's no way to screw it into the video port ;D)
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Submitted my pre-order for the Amiga 1200 model. :)
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Cool.. I'll have to get the new version for my a4000 040. I wonder how high gfx mode would run on stock 040/25 16mb?
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Cool.. I'll have to get the new version for my a4000 040. I wonder how high gfx mode would run on stock 040/25 16mb?
HighGFX mode is slow in more than 16 colors even with a 060.
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My understanding is that it will be available sometime next year, connector will be DVI-I, and it will have improved memory performance (vsynced 75Hz PAL mode for us CRT junkies).
More info in this EAB thread (http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=55980).
This just dawned on me! Now why would you want a DVI-I connector and vsynced 75hz for a CRT? I don't even know of any CRTs that have DVI connectors.
Even if you do get a CRT monitor with a DVI connector, it's still going to be an analog signal (though I guess coming from an Amiga it would be anyhow? Analog-digital-analog....)
Thinking about it though, I could actually just get a VGA-DVI adapter now and connect that to the backplane instead of the vga connector from the Indivision AGA MKI that I currently have if I wanted natural DVI. But then again I have a Radeon with DVI and the VGA from the Indivision connected to an LCD monitor at the same time so I can just switch between the two when needed.
@magnetic
As Xanxi said, the HighGFX mode is rather slow, but from what I understand the MKII is supposed to have some faster bits to it so that may change.
I currently have a A4000 040/25 and a Mediator with Radeon and you can definitely tell there is a large speed difference in 1024x768 16million colors on the radeon compared to the 1024x768 256 colors of the HighGFX.
slaapliedje
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This just dawned on me! Now why would you want a DVI-I connector and vsynced 75hz for a CRT? I don't even know of any CRTs that have DVI connectors.
DVI-I carries both analog and digital signals, so connection to a CRT is easily done with an adapter.
The reason for vsynced 75Hz is for smooth scrolling with much less flicker than 50Hz, especially when using more recently produced (short phosphor persistence) CRTs.
Even if you do get a CRT monitor with a DVI connector, it's still going to be an analog signal (though I guess coming from an Amiga it would be anyhow? Analog-digital-analog....)
The next Indivision will output both. This is good news for LCDs, as I found the internal ribbon cable of the first Indivision to degrade image quality somewhat, and many LCDs lack comprehensive adjustments for tweaking analog input to perfection. It also gives a greater shot at smooth scrolling, many LCDs handle 75Hz correctly (at least mine do).
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How is the Indivision AGA mk2 project coming along? Is there a working prototype yet?
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How is the Indivision AGA mk2 project coming along? Is there a working prototype yet?
I spoke with Jens Schönfeld on this exact subject.
The reply I got was simply "Hi, there is no release date yet."
:(
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hmmm....mediator + radeon then perhaps...
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I spoke with Jens Schönfeld on this exact subject.
The reply I got was simply "Hi, there is no release date yet."
:(
Since you are on such friendly speaking/writing terms with Jens, maybe you can also ask him if he has any plans to create an ACA030 accelerator for the CD32?
Given the high prices for the few working SX32Pro accelerators (selling mine was one of the biggest mistakes I have made in the last year or so) for the CD32, I would think that such a product from Jens would sell very well and make him a tidy profit, if he can redesign his A1200 ACA030 accelerators to work with a CD32 compatible connection interface.
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..... Jens, maybe you can also ask him if he has any plans to create an ACA030 accelerator for the CD32?
From a thread on EAB just today. ;-)
CD32 may be on the list "much later", but for now, I'd like to sort out the problems that people have with the ACA1230. So far, not a single person got back to me with information about their Budgie chip. If you expect me to do support, you should at least answer my questions. I can't possibly guess from a distance what kind of chips your boards have - work with me!
Further, we have to do a new production run of A603 cards, as they are sold out here, and only available at Alinea for the recommended retail price. This will also take up some time - I doubt that I'll have spare time for a CD32 expansion anytime soon.
desiv
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Any word on the ACA520 for A500? I will plunk down cash in a second for that!
Rog......
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Dont worry- as soon as the Indivision 1200 MKII is ready thsi year, we will be adding it to the AmigaKit webstores. We will not take pre-orders until the item is actually manufactured.
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Dont worry- as soon as the Indivision 1200 MKII is ready thsi year, we will be adding it to the AmigaKit webstores. We will not take pre-orders until the item is actually manufactured.
Rough idea on the price?
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Nothing confirmed yet, but it may be around the old pricing of the original Indivision 1200.
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Amikit
Good news, cant wait to see that order button.
it would be nice if Jens would give some press release as to the status for the project. It looks like its getting slowed down due to aca 1230 support and further 630 runs?
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CD32 accelerator along the lines of the ProModule with an extra socket for a PPC would be 100% WIN!
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Wow, you are looking at the same thing. I just saw this since scan doublers for the 1200 seem unavailable at the moment. Bugger.
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Wow, you are looking at the same thing. I just saw this since scan doublers for the 1200 seem unavailable at the moment. Bugger.
You can get external ones for like a hundred, but the Indivision does offer some nice things on top of just scan doubling
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We are in the process of preparing Indivision AGA 1200 MKII (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1085) product page on AmigaKit.com (http://www.amigakit.com) for customer pre-ordering in April.
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@Amigakit:
THAT'S GREAT NEWS!
But I was wondering what news was coming out about the A4000T version? :o
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Wonderful! Finally, a decent AGA signal from the A4000T.
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We are in the process of preparing Indivision AGA 1200 MKII (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1085) product page on AmigaKit.com (http://www.amigakit.com) for customer pre-ordering in April.
Yesssss.......:afro:
EDIT: No :( A4000T only.
Bugger.
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If you want to pre-order an Indivision 4000D/CD32 special edition mk2 contact Jens via his webform on his website.
http://amiga.think42.com/email/email_e.htm
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@Amigakit:
THAT'S GREAT NEWS!
But I was wondering what news was coming out about the A4000T version? :o
The Indivision 1200 MKII (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1085) version will work with the 4000T but not the 4000 desktop.
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If you want to pre-order an Indivision 4000D/CD32 special edition mk2 contact Jens via his webform on his website.
http://amiga.think42.com/email/email_e.htm
ETA on when those will be filled? Is it just a matter of re-profiling the 1200 version?
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The Indivision 1200 MKII (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1085) version will work with the 4000T but not the 4000 desktop.
:banana::banana::banana::banana::angel::angel::angel::afro::afro::afro::cool::cool::cool:
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The Indivision 1200 MKII (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1085) version will work with the 4000T but not the 4000 desktop.
Checkout seems broken for me.
I was going to order one, but maybe I'll just spend the money on yellow cheese powder.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Case-of-Cheese-Powder-Powdered-Emergency-Survival-Food-/390036876636?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ad0026d5c#ht_1550wt_807
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Checkout seems broken for me.
I was going to order one, but maybe I'll just spend the money on yellow cheese powder.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Case-of-Cheese-Powder-Powdered-Emergency-Survival-Food-/390036876636?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ad0026d5c#ht_1550wt_807
Same thing happened to me. :(
I hope they aren't sold out already...
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Try clearing your cookies for the amigakit site, someone at another site suggested that and it worked for me :)
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Same thing happened to me. :(
I hope they aren't sold out already...
I just came back and tried it again and was able to checkout.
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I was going to order one, but maybe I'll just spend the money on yellow cheese powder.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Case-of-Cheese-Powder-Powdered-Emergency-Survival-Food-/390036876636?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ad0026d5c#ht_1550wt_807
Why go for just the powder when you can have the whole enchilada, as it were.
(On a side note, I'm kinda aggravated at all the good stuff coming 'round when I'm broke. DVI for the 1200?? COME ON!!!)
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:)
From all the software I sold HERE (http://amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=60925) I can afford the Mk II!!!
THANKS EVERYONE!!!!:banana::banana::banana:
I also had enough to add a case badge to the order. ;)
Ya know, it's a good day to own an Amiga...
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Thank you
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Is anyone going to try and attempt to get one of these to coexist with a FastATA?
I already have some ROM and clockport risers ready, hopefully it will work :)
Oh, subway too...
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Guys dont forget to read the thread on EAB where Jens himself says that the first shipped boards will have beta software.. just fyi
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Guys dont forget to read the thread on EAB where Jens himself says that the first shipped boards will have beta software.. just fyi
bring on the beta software.
Any news on these things ETA?
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Yes! Finally. Now the big question is, do I put it in my A1200T or my A1200D. :) My A1200T has a DVI Radeon and a MkI Indivision. Can't wait for an A4000D version. Then all my Amiga's will have been Indivision'ified. Sent an email using the form listed above to Jens about an A4000D version.
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Is anyone going to try and attempt to get one of these to coexist with a FastATA?
I already have some ROM and clockport risers ready, hopefully it will work :)
Oh, subway too...
Or you could just wait for the new SATA enabled IdeFix Express
;)
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Or you could just wait for the new SATA enabled IdeFix Express
;)
Cool... i was not aware of that product.
I took the 1200 apart this weekend to put a Lyra and needed to use the ROM risers under the FastATA. I have it on 2 risers and the case closes and its been working great. I really am optimistic its going to fit. I also already have 2 SATA ports.
maybe i'll get IdeFix Express IF the driver is romable....
BTW the old 4xIDE works just fine with SATA as well...