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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: PanterHZ on December 07, 2010, 08:22:36 PM

Title: Apollo 1240 battery & fan questions.
Post by: PanterHZ on December 07, 2010, 08:22:36 PM
The battery of my old Apollo 1240 accelerator has been dead for a long time now, and I want to replace it with a new one. So I'm wondering about what type of battery I should buy?

A while ago I bought a second Apollo 1240 which I now use in my main A1200 instead of the old one. This card already had the battery replaced with a 3V VL2020 battery, so I wonder if this is the right one? By doing a quick search on Ebay I found some of these batteries, but they seem to be for BMW keys, and this puzzles me a bit.

I also want to replace the fan on my old Apollo, so does anybody have any recommandations about what type of fan I should buy? And what type of glue should I use for attaching it to the CPU?
Title: Re: Apollo 1240 battery & fan questions.
Post by: mechy on December 08, 2010, 12:11:21 AM
The apollo 040/40 i had used a rechargeable batt that can leak and eat the accelerator.remove it asap if you do nothing else. more than likely someone did a coin cell hack to your other one. You should use a diode if you do this,since lithium coin cells shouldnt be recharged.
Title: Re: Apollo 1240 battery & fan questions.
Post by: stachu100 on December 08, 2010, 08:39:38 AM
Look here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/stacho100/Apollo126006080MHz32MBRAM#
I'm using Panasonic VL2020 accumulator. This accumulator is really very nice - it will not leak and it will be re-charged during normal Amiga operation.
Title: Re: Apollo 1240 battery & fan questions.
Post by: utri007 on December 08, 2010, 09:53:53 AM
I've used my apollo 040 40mhz without fan years. It has double size compared to cpu cooler element from old nvidia craphicks card. Only clue I use with it therman grease, so it can be easily removed and replaced. This solution requires tower
Title: Re: Apollo 1240 battery & fan questions.
Post by: PanterHZ on December 10, 2010, 04:24:26 AM
Quote from: mechy;597710
The apollo 040/40 i had used a rechargeable batt that can leak and eat the accelerator.remove it asap if you do nothing else. more than likely someone did a coin cell hack to your other one. You should use a diode if you do this,since lithium coin cells shouldnt be recharged.

It doesn't look like my Apollo has suffered from battery leakage, but I will of course have to inspect things more closely after removing the old battery. The type of battery is the same as the one featured on this card: http://www.amiga-hardware.com/display_photos/apollo1240_3_sm.jpg. I removed the plastic cap, and it certainly looks like the battery have started to leak, so removing it has top priority right now.
The previous owner of my new Apollo card haven't used a diode with the battery since the VL2020 is actually rechargeable.


Quote from: stachu100;597743
Look here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/stacho100/Apollo126006080MHz32MBRAM#
I'm using Panasonic VL2020 accumulator. This accumulator is really very nice - it will not leak and it will be re-charged during normal Amiga operation.

Yes, I think I'll buy a VL2020 then :)
I have looked at your pictures, and I'm a bit curious about the small card that sits next to the CPU, what does it do? Is it a kind of voltage regulator or something?
Another thing, is it a laptop CPU fan you have mounted on the processor?
 

Quote from: utri007;597746
I've used my apollo 040 40mhz without fan years. It has double size compared to cpu cooler element from old nvidia craphicks card. Only clue I use with it therman grease, so it can be easily removed and replaced. This solution requires tower

I must say that I'm a bit sceptical to fanless solutions. Another thing is that I have plans of using my old Apollo in a custom made cabinet I have made, and I don't think a cooler element will fit in there, unless it's a small one that is.

BTW. Thanks for the replies everybody :)
Title: Re: Apollo 1240 battery & fan questions.
Post by: stachu100 on December 10, 2010, 08:35:21 AM
First answer: this small board is 3,3V regulator necessary for 060 CPU
Second answer: no, this heatsink+fan is not form laptop, but you can use any fan to cool down CPU. Your imagination is only limitation here. ;-)
Title: Re: Apollo 1240 battery & fan questions.
Post by: PanterHZ on December 14, 2010, 02:58:11 AM
Quote from: stachu100;598001
First answer: this small board is 3,3V regulator necessary for 060 CPU
Second answer: no, this heatsink+fan is not form laptop, but you can use any fan to cool down CPU. Your imagination is only limitation here. ;-)

Ah! so you have upgraded from 040 to 060 CPU on the card then :)

Regarding a fan, my biggest concern is the voltage, do you know how many volts that is output for the fan? I don't have the tools required for checking this out right now.
Title: Re: Apollo 1240 battery & fan questions.
Post by: stachu100 on December 14, 2010, 08:46:47 AM
That's depend on fan you are going to use.
You can connect fan to +12V, +5V or +3,3V.
Last solution is not recommended, but technically possible.
Title: Re: Apollo 1240 battery & fan questions.
Post by: PanterHZ on December 16, 2010, 02:14:31 AM
Quote from: stachu100;598570
That's depend on fan you are going to use.
You can connect fan to +12V, +5V or +3,3V.
Last solution is not recommended, but technically possible.

I don't think I was clear enough with what I meant :)

On the Apollo card the wires from the fan are soldered to some solder pads, how many volts are output from these pads?
Title: Re: Apollo 1240 battery & fan questions.
Post by: stachu100 on December 16, 2010, 07:08:39 AM
Quote from: PanterHZ;599096
I don't think I was clear enough with what I meant :)
 
On the Apollo card the wires from the fan are soldered to some solder pads, how many volts are output from these pads?

You can always check this by using multimeter, but it's 12V (12V is also written on PCB, please look closer). ;)
Title: Re: Apollo 1240 battery & fan questions.
Post by: PanterHZ on December 25, 2010, 03:14:29 AM
Quote from: stachu100;599131
You can always check this by using multimeter, but it's 12V (12V is also written on PCB, please look closer). ;)

OK, thanks a lot stachu100. :)