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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: magnetic on November 30, 2010, 12:50:16 AM
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Hey guys
Like the title said
Looking for amiga 4000 cpu cards of any type 030 to 060 (reasonable prices only)
Daughterboard for A4000 rev b
Hi density a4000 floppy.
Amiga mouse for a4k..
Thank you
PAYPAL READY! I have an 4000 d project i'm working on
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http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?t=11420
http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?t=11422
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countzero
Well 2 things.. 1 you dont ship to usa.. 2. I got banned from amibay for re selling an a1200 accel I got when i saw Jens new boards and got an a4000. So they apparently spied on me and decided to ban me for life!!! for selling a board a month after I bought it so i could buy other amiga gear. How fcking lame. (Coze i bought your a1200) to have something like that happen on an Amiga site is PLAIN LAME
anyone else have a cpu or a daughterboard?
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Yeah, that's pretty lame. That's why there are many people who won't buy or sell on Amibay.
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magnetic, that's interesting. I'll have a look at your situation and see what happened. did you try to sell the board on somewhere else ?
for the record, US seems to relax the weight limit on international mail, so I will be able to ship to the US again (possibly from today)
http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/523131/yet-another-stupid-us-policy-no-ems-sal-air-shipments-from-japan-to-the-usa-if-they-re-over-16-ounces-453-grams
http://www.dhs.gov/ynews/releases/pr_1289237893803.shtm
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Amibay is run by tards.
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Hands up all you tards here? One... two.... hundred and ninety seven......
Yup that's all of us.
They do take one or two things a bit too seriously... 1 out of every 3 of my posts end up being moderated.... but nothing malicious. It's just they are very much skool librarian types. "Rulez is rules... now get out" ;)
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magnetic:
PM sent
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Amibay is run by tards.
Well I had my issues there too.. they take it a bit tooooo seriously.. I think even eBay is more relaxed!
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pan1k and others
Yeah its really crazy. Here I was just starting out having fun with amibay even got 3 nice feedbacks.. then I get a weird pm saying "your account is being investigated" So get this one, some amiga asshole no life loser was stalking my friends auction and they traced it back to me saying I was "scalping" So I write 3 pms like 5 paragraphs long and these fascists just ban me for life with no explanation or answeres to my inquiries. Its like good ole times in Moscow. These guys should be ASHAMED to call themselves amigans.
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Well I had my issues there too.. they take it a bit tooooo seriously.. I think even eBay is more relaxed!
Can you reply to my PM on amibay sometime as I'd like to take you up on your kind offer of refunding the extra postage :) .
Yes, amibay is strict: it's first and foremost a trading forum, not a discussion forum so things *are* different. I am a moderator on there and I can sincerely assure you that the team do take all moderation actions very, very seriously. Nothing is random or haphazard, it is all done to make the trading community a better place. It is without doubt a lot more strict than other Amiga forums, but nowhere near as strict as other trading forums (see avforums.com for a good example).
Constructive feedback on rules and moderation is actively welcomed: get involved!
Magnetic, I'll not comment on your case other than to say you were given the chance to appeal and I understand you didn't reply.
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Amibay is run by tards.
That's a very harsh comment to make. I have in the past had questions over the way some things are handled on Amibay, but for the most part things are done for the greater good.
pan1k and others
Yeah its really crazy. Here I was just starting out having fun with amibay even got 3 nice feedbacks.. then I get a weird pm saying "your account is being investigated" So get this one, some amiga asshole no life loser was stalking my friends auction and they traced it back to me saying I was "scalping" So I write 3 pms like 5 paragraphs long and these fascists just ban me for life with no explanation or answeres to my inquiries. Its like good ole times in Moscow. These guys should be ASHAMED to call themselves amigans.
I don't know the details of your situation, but I think if you bought a card from Amibay then went on to sell this card at a profit via other channels without offering it to the Amibay community first then yes I can understand why you may have been banned.
I often buy hardware one week and sell the next as I change my mind etc; however I always try to offer it back to the community at a fair price (usually what I paid for it). If it doesnt sell then I pursue other methods, if it then sells at profit it's not my fault as I offered it at a reasonable price to the community in the first place.
If you really feel it was unfair and was a real mistake, and value an Amibay membership, then appeal the decision.
Amibay is not perfect; however it is a friendly place that offers a structured way to sell hardware/software. It's real asset however are its members
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What Wasagi said +1 :)
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Constructive feedback on rules and moderation is actively welcomed: get involved!
Fascism is bad, mmkay?
It's real asset however are its members
Definitely, I bought and sold more than a few items there and never had any issues. The admin staff, however, needs to give their members more credit and not treat them like children. eBay is just a whole lot easier, buy and sell your dogma-free hardware!
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chiark
I cannot reply to your pm on amibay as I am banned
As far as "the appeal" are you kidding me? I wrote 3 LOOONNNG Pms to the guy who banned me and NONE Of my points were addressed nor was the ban justified. Except for corporate sounding pms I got. Its rather terrible to treat amiga people like this. it is not right, and i'm glad to see that there are others who see this as well. The best part is it wasnt even my auction! What a joke.
How can 1 person tell another you cannot sell this item you bought here or here or why or why not? What if someone needs to make rent? (happens alot in amiga ville and people sell amiga sh9t) hello..
I wonder if i really should make noise about this on the net on other sites as well to bring attention to the unfairness. Never have I been treated like this as an amigan. :(
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The PM comment was at pan1k, not you :) - sorry for the confusion.
If you disagree with your treatment, you were offered the chance to appeal and I think you didn't reply to the offer. An appeal will be dealt with by someone aside from the moderator who dealt with the case. For this case there was significant discussion amongst the moderators and a consensus in the end but we can look at it again.
It's obvious you still feel that you've been wronged here, so please take up the offer of the appeal and I'll ask the moderators to act on it despite the time that has passed. If we got it wrong, we'll sort it out.
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First days of Amibay had some moderation issues. The staff was inexperienced and "over-moderated" unnecessary stuff usually. I've had my share of problems back then and got banned for some time too (it was not related to a transaction infringement). But now I see they've learned from their mistakes, and the place is run much more smoothly than in the past. I wouldn't still be there if it weren't.
As for your case magnetic, I haven't seen your 'friends' auction, so cant really comment, but generally what you got from amibay, you offer there for the same price. I've done it many times, and had no problems.
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chiark
Thank you for the thoughtful and well explained post. You are a credit to how people in the amiga community are SUPPOSED to behave. It is very nice of you. I cant even go on amibay without getting a page that says i'm banned. And my favorite part for how long? "Never" :(
Oh btw guys it was the first "infraction" no "warning" nothing. Very weird how agressive and cold it was
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That is not cool from any of you to behave like that with Magnetic.
If he has been banned from Amibay, there is no reason to discuss it here, in a WTB thread, unless you would like to banish him from the whole internet.
Profeetering on amiga hardware is not a matter to be proud of, but you are on amiga.org here, and i know the guy Magnetic as a valuable member here.
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thanks Xanxi thats very nice of you! :)
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Well i've been a member there for just over 6 months now and I find it the most friendly Amiga hang out on the net. Only recently I met up with a gang of guys from Amibay at R3play in Blackpool and we had a whale of a time, cracking lads. So to hear the comments here saddens me :(
Its true that Amibay has quite a strict policiy, but its only to stop people getting stuff "cheap" and then selling it off on Ebay or the like for profit. Amibay is about helping out fellow Amigans in need and not for the money to be made on what is in some cases highly desirable kit that can fetch premiums on Ebay etc. What I like personally apart from the friendly atmosphere there is the fact that you can be very sure that something you get on Amibay will be advertised HONESTLY, unlike Ebay where you have to read between the lines a bit with Amiga stuff.
Anyway, I think you should give them a second chance, its very surprising to hear you were threat in this way, but i'm sure its a mistake that can be sorted out. :)
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If he has been banned from Amibay, there is no reason to discuss it here, in a WTB thread, unless you would like to banish him from the whole internet.
He brought up the subject. If he wants to make public discussion of the matter people have a right to defend themselves.
If he dosen't want a public discusion on the matter then...
To be honest none of the reply's here are constructive, a moderator of this forum should get involved and clean up this mess as no good will come of it.
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To be honest none of the reply's here are constructive, a moderator of this forum should get involved and clean up this mess as no good will come of it.
How very Amibay!
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He brought up the subject. If he wants to make public discussion of the matter people have a right to defend themselves.
If he dosen't want a public discusion on the matter then...
To be honest none of the reply's here are constructive, a moderator of this forum should get involved and clean up this mess as no good will come of it.
Speaking of people defending themselves, i don't see why you might be involved here, unless you are a moderator of amibay.
And many people defending themselves versus one guy doesn't look like a fair defense to me.
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Speaking of people defending themselves, i don't see why you might be involved here, unless you are a moderator of amibay.
And many people defending themselves versus one guy doesn't look like a fair defense to me.
You're right, I've got no reason to be involved with this discussion. Apologies, I'll bow out.
Whats your excuse?
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How very Amibay!
We could say how very amiga.org, but that wouldn't be fair would it as its not representative of the community here. People who have come here from amibay have done so in a constructive manner not to sling mud.
Speaking of people defending themselves, i don't see why you might be involved here, unless you are a moderator of amibay.
And many people defending themselves versus one guy doesn't look like a fair defense to me.
People here are defending amibay based on the comments such as "amibay is run by tards". I don't see anything personally against Magnetic. My reason for posting here was to explain to magnetic why I think he might have been banned and urging him to appeal it if he was wronged.
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We could say how very amiga.org, but that wouldn't be fair
It would also be nonsense, as I was commenting on the Amibay "moderation issues" even defenders of the site agree exist(ed.)
As for mudslinging, I enjoy making clear my feelings on Amibay, and will continue to do so whenever the name pops up. Don't worry, I'm sure they won't lose any members because of me!
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Back to the original topic, Magnetic check your PM I have a daughterboard for you, just pay shipping
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It would also be nonsense, as I was commenting on the Amibay "moderation issues" even defenders of the site agree exist(ed.)
As for mudslinging, I enjoy making clear my feelings on Amibay, and will continue to do so whenever the name pops up. Don't worry, I'm sure they won't lose any members because of me!
Folks - I'm sure by now you realise that there are quite a few of us who are members here and also Amibay. Deconstructive comments so far against the moderators and the site as a whole is counter productive to the Amiga community that we are all firmly part of.
I would like to say - cut it out and grow up but then I'd just be joining in the mud slinging and I won't do that. Also - to call them "tards" when some of them I would class as friends is just not on. That's a personal attack on them and moderators of this site should think about that.
What I will say is however is that the folk here to date have been extremely friendly and helpful to me in the past and I've enjoyed my time here. I also have the same experience with Amibay and like Phipscube said - we all had such a great time at R3PLAY - I wish some of you could have been there to join us. The moderators are trying their best to keep the site running within the core values and I for one appreciate that.
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Also - to call them "tards" when some of them I would class as friends is just not on. That's a personal attack on them and moderators of this site should think about that.
I suppose I should clarify. They're not all tards, probably most of them aren't. I ran into at least one though.
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Moderators are people too, if you cut them, do they not bleed? etc. etc.
(BTW I'm not suggesting anyone cuts a mod, FFS! Just that you need to remember they are people and just like us, they have bad days)
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Desantii
Thank you so much! Super. I built an A1200 d with the infamous 030 card i got from amibay and realized I need the zorro slots on cd rom for my art project, I'm missing cpu and duaghterboard os you are a mega hero! I'll post pics of the project when i'm done.
@tone
>How very Amibay!
That was funny..
@fitzsteve
Quote: You're right, I've got no reason to be involved with this discussion. Apologies, I'll bow out.
Whats your excuse?
Well fitz is right I did mention the amibay ban and it seems as if he tried to help.. I appreciate the backing though Xanxi!
As far as whats your excuse.. his "excuse" is defending me as a loyal amigan in the community!
@ Wasagi
Quote: My reason for posting here was to explain to magnetic why I think he might have been banned and urging him to appeal it if he was wronged.
Well when in this very thread its stated that there was some Amibay moderator meeting about "my case" (wow like the inquisition) and it was decided that I be banned.
After writing several long emails with almost no response or justification to my points i was just banned * FOR LIFE *
Would you take the 1/2 hr to write up the appeal? Wouldnt it seem to fall on deaf ears?
If I'm wrong about amibay then why not re-instate me and go for another chance? I was having fun there but with this kind of political corporate shenanigans it makes you wonder why there is "AMI" in "Amibay" :(
ps As far as the "run by tards" comment I thought that was very funny.. and a lot nicer than the term "fascists" i used lol. i should post the pm of the ban here so the other amigans can see the cold corporate rhetoric sounding message! :/
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i should post the pm of the ban here so the other amigans can see the cold corporate rhetoric sounding message! :/
Go for it!
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magnetic, while you are at it, would you also let us know how much did you manage to haggle that card down to, and how much was the starting price of your subsequent auction ? thank you ...
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magnetic, while you are at it, would you also let us know how much did you manage to haggle that card down to, and how much was the starting price of your subsequent auction ? Thank you ...
hErP
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countzer
Sure, no problem. I'll be happy to state it. I got it for $125 and it was sold for $199.
BTW I had the board over a month before selling and it didnt suit my needs. How is that difficult to digest?
Thats NOT the point. The point is how can some entity tell an amiga person when to sell what to sell, how to sell, who to sell to, and where to sell it/ Or buy for that matter?
I will probably be selling the A1200 I got from you as well, since I am now moving on to a desktop 4000 project for a classic amiga. Is that wrong to? Should I ask your permission or what?
In all my amiga years since the 80s I have never ever seen amiga people behave in this manner or treat other amigans in this way. Usually its complete trust and unity. Its quite sad... :(
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Commandment 11: THOU MUST NOT PROFIT FROM AMIGA SALES
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I dont have anything to say. No, what you are doing is no good. If you own an item for a considerable amount of time, you may look for a different price depending on the changes in the market. But buying and reselling in one month for %150 the price is not good.
yes, I would appreciate if you offer my 1200 to other AMIGANS for the same price you bought it from me. This way you can prove that you really care for the AMIGANS and not your wallet. Otherwise dont talk nonsense about AMIGANS treating other AMIGANS like shit, cause you are no AMIGAN.
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countzero
I've very suprised at this from you. First off I will be selling it for alot more since i had to take it compelty apart and install the shield, I added a cf ide adaptor with a 4gb drive filled with stuff, sourced out ethernet and pcmcia adaptors, installed software
so like 2 weeks work and research...
So I dont get your logic. I got a great deal on my A4000T i got from a guy and I sold off some parts to pay for my deal. its called being creative so you can enjoy your hobby.,
i'm currently unemployed now for 6 months you think I should sell things below market prices because I bought them 3 months ago for a good deal?
A guy would be happy to pay more for a nice custom unit. or even if I sold it exaclty like I got it from you for $200 they would be happy..
so buyer happy seller happy
wtf is your problem?
If you are such an Amiga saint. Why dont you just start sending FREE gear to people. I mean you think its fair to sell a 1994 2mb 14mhz computer with a floppy drive, no mouse no psu for $125? To many people that sounds like selling junk for profit.
Its all a matter of perspective do you see any but your ownviewpoint? :(
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amibay is not a profit venture. if you want to get "good deals" and give none, go somewhere else. You get good deals, you give good deals. if someone takes the good deals, and gives them somewhere else, we lose our good deals in circulation within amibay. its as simple as that.
sure I see your viewpoint, but it is not tolerable on amibay. have fun chasing sharks at ebay.
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I was going to offer some A4000 stuff to you but after seeing your 2nd last post i will decide not too. I too am on amibay if i was to buy something from there and then not need it i would offer it straight back that just common courtesy i can understand why you got banded and to use your friends account to sell the items make it look more sus (suspect).
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I was going to offer some A4000 stuff to you but after seeing your 2nd last post i will decide not too. I too am on amibay if i was to buy something from there and then not need it i would offer it straight back that just common courtesy i can understand why you got banded and to use your friends account to sell the items make it look more sus (suspect).
For me this sum's up the spirit of Amibay I have only bought one thing but you can bet if I ever sell it Amibay gets first shot..
Chris :roflmao::roflmao:
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I've tries to resist putting my 2 cents in here...But you have got to be kidding me, now i know why i did not bother to finish jumping thru hoops to sell my stuff on amibay. It would be a cold day in hell when someone will tell me what i can and can't buy/sell something for. Its free trade out there people(or have the UK ppl that run amibay been under the british govt. thumb too long?). If i buy something ANYWHERE and i'm told i can't sell it where and when i want,for what price i want,after buying it with my hard earned money,i would have to tell those people to go get bent(hmm,i think i am...). Who the hell are you guys the free commerce police?
I agree profiteering is a bad thing at times(re:the clown on ebay hoarding chinon drives and posting them for crazy prices),but magnetic had good reasons for selling his stuff when he did,and its no ones business BUT his.Its no ones business where he sold it.telling him he has to keep it for so long and or only sell it on amibay is total bullshit. If he made a few dollars great,if not ,sorry, i've been on both sides of the coin.Amiga hardware prices go up and down all the time.The market and supply and demand determines what something is worth. It may of started with good intentions,but from what i can tell its a ridiculous over moderated pain in the butt way to do much of anything.
I think selling stuff on Comp.sys.amiga.marketplace was way better than amibay,i bought and sold much stuff there over 20 years and have probabaly dealt with many amigans here over the years without an ounce of big brother style moderation. it was a pretty friendly way to do trade. Most have gotten away from it in recent years,i still check it now and again.You could protect yourself reasonably well by sitting back and watching who bought and sold if you were new and get a idea who was legit.paypal makes most transactions pretty safe these days.
Mike
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So its fair to buy something very cheap in Amibay and then sell it elsewhere without giving the people who gave you the good deal a chance to have a go at it? If that's big brother then call me little brother..... and i did say it was common courtesy to give something back to people who gave it to you in the first place.
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I've tries to resist putting my 2 cents in here...But you have got to be kidding me, now i know why i did not bother to finish jumping thru hoops to sell my stuff on amibay. It would be a cold day in hell when someone will tell me what i can and can't buy/sell something for. Its free trade out there people(or have the UK ppl that run amibay been under the british govt. thumb too long?). If i buy something ANYWHERE and i'm told i can't sell it where and when i want,for what price i want,after buying it with my hard earned money,i would have to tell those people to go get bent(hmm,i think i am...). Who the hell are you guys the free commerce police?
I agree profiteering is a bad thing at times(re:the clown on ebay hoarding chinon drives and posting them for crazy prices),but magnetic had good reasons for selling his stuff when he did,and its no ones business BUT his.Its no ones business where he sold it.telling him he has to keep it for so long and or only sell it on amibay is total bullshit. If he made a few dollars great,if not ,sorry, i've been on both sides of the coin.Amiga hardware prices go up and down all the time.The market and supply and demand determines what something is worth. It may of started with good intentions,but from what i can tell its a ridiculous over moderated pain in the butt way to do much of anything.
I think selling stuff on Comp.sys.amiga.marketplace was way better than amibay,i bought and sold much stuff there over 20 years and have probabaly dealt with many amigans here over the years without an ounce of big brother style moderation. it was a pretty friendly way to do trade. Most have gotten away from it in recent years,i still check it now and again.You could protect yourself reasonably well by sitting back and watching who bought and sold if you were new and get a idea who was legit.paypal makes most transactions pretty safe these days.
Mike
So it's ok to agree to the rules and then do what you what that makes no sense just don't use amibay if you disagree it's that simple..
Chris :roflmao:
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Calm down people.
Remember that, except North Korea and Cuba, everyone is now living under free liberalism or full capitalism.
The world is made of profiteering and unless a big global revolution puts an end to it, it will do forever.
Although i think it is very uncool to make profit on old amiga hardware, i just don't want to rule the market according to some political system that does not exist anywhere in the world.
Why not raise some taxes on amiga sales from this point of view?
One more point to underligne: Amibay prices are not often cheap, and i still can find a better bargain on ebay.
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Guys, since the op has found what he wanted...
I think this thread 'E's passed on! This thread is no more!
It has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff!
Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't kept 'im open 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-THREAD!!
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Although i think it is very uncool to make profit on old amiga hardware
I don't think there's anything wrong with having a hobby that can pay for (or at least subsidize) itself.
One more point to underligne: Amibay prices are not often cheap, and i still can find a better bargain on ebay.
Definitely.
Guys, since the op has found what he wanted...
I didn't see where magnetic got the CPU card he needed!
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I didn't see where magnetic got the CPU card he needed!
Stickler for details aren't you?
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Commandment 11: THOU MUST NOT PROFIT FROM AMIGA SALES
Actually, that's the First Commandment of Amibay. :)
The prime directive is that it exists for people to actually enjoy the hobby and trade items for sensible prices. People can ask for LOLprices, but their items will never sell. Yes, sometimes eBay will swing you a better price, and so be it, most Amibayers still check eBay for the odd bargain.
For all those bashing the capitalism drum in this thread. Yes, you are correct, you are quite welcome to buy and sell stuff at whatever prices you choose, there's no laws against it, free markets and all that. That's what eBay is for, and many of the trading areas on Amiga forums. It's not what Amibay is for. If you don't like it, you don't have to join, nobody's forcing you. But slagging the place off because you disagree with our motives is not cool.
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So its fair to buy something very cheap in Amibay and then sell it elsewhere without giving the people who gave you the good deal a chance to have a go at it? If that's big brother then call me little brother..... and i did say it was common courtesy to give something back to people who gave it to you in the first place.
What i'm saying is it doesn't matter where he buys it or for what cost because he has spent his money on it and now owns it,and can do what he/she wants.No matter where/when he sells it,he IS giving someone the chance to buy it.
Amibay is just trying price regulate a free market which obviously doesn't work. I've seen ridiculous prices there as well as ebay.
Give back to the people who gave to me? when i buy something i was not GIVEN anything,i was sold something. i now own that something,and i now can do what i want with it.
mike
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So it's ok to agree to the rules and then do what you what that makes no sense just don't use amibay if you disagree it's that simple..
Chris :roflmao:
Well,i personally didnt agree to anyones rules which is why i don' sell or buy there..and i think its silly to have to remember the price you bought something at,be it one month,year or 5 years,whatever,just to avoid stepping on toes or offending the rules.Attempted price regulation at its best. Like a antique vase,amiga stuff changes price as it becomes more scarce and older.Do you think the owner of this antique would put up with you telling him he has to sell it for what he paid and at the same auction house he bought it? I like and use my amiga hardware,and it too is an investment for me.
The only person i see that is affecting prices the right way is jen's by selling new accelerators.
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This discussion about rules is becoming interesting, even if it sounds not.
A lawyer would tell you that in a modern country, the Law comes from:
1/ the constitution of this country
2/ treaties made with other countries (aka European Union), which must be compatible with the constitution above
3/ the internal laws of the country
4/ the administratives rules in the country
5/ the custom
6/ the jurisprudence coming from particuliar cases that have been judged.
and of course, every point must obey the previous point in that order.
So, where would a forum rule take place in this scheme? In a 7th point, that would have to conform to all previous rules.
You understand then that a forum rule should only be some general recommandations about politness, norm of writing on the forum, subject of the forum, and not a valour system that could prevent any one to sell/trade anything just as he want. Free capitalism is a law in western countries as long as it is not forbidden gears.
In conclusion, a public forum can not be under a super rule and the "if you don't like the rule, do not suscribe" is irrelevant.
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In conclusion, a public forum can not be under a super rule and the "if you don't like the rule, do not suscribe" is irrelevant.
Amibay is more like a private club.
(http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/2792/51780glnkwru8.jpg)
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amibay is not a free market then, nor are our beloved amigas just 'merchandise'. if you're looking for stuff to make profit, than dont come there as simple as that. yes, they are doing some sort of price regulation, which I have no problem with. your parallels with communist markets is just utter non sense as we are not talking about distribution of wealth here. it is just a fair system where people can buy and sell stuff without thinking about how much they're losing/gaining profit. as a side note, I find the american notion of trying to associate everything that doesnt suit them with communism/socialism very funny. makes you wonder when you guys start getting this commie bogeyman treatment ...
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Although I've always priced my transactions fairly, I'd never let anyone tell me where and for how much I can sell something I own.
I'd bet the "spirit" of the rule at amibay was to prevent someone from constantly buying up items to resell, and NOT to punish the average user that happens to sell a single item on ebay after a change of heart.
Ebay is easier and only slightly more expensive.
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amibay is not a free market then, nor are our beloved amigas just 'merchandise'. if you're looking for stuff to make profit, than dont come there as simple as that. yes, they are doing some sort of price regulation, which I have no problem with. your parallels with communist markets is just utter non sense as we are not talking about distribution of wealth here. it is just a fair system where people can buy and sell stuff without thinking about how much they're losing/gaining profit. as a side note, I find the american notion of trying to associate everything that doesnt suit them with communism/socialism very funny. makes you wonder when you guys start getting this commie bogeyman treatment ...
I'm no american, coze. Although France is not as powerful as in the napoleonic time it's still an independant country you know. :)
And i don't speak of communism either, communism simply does not exist anymore.
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Amibay is more like a private club.
(http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/2792/51780glnkwru8.jpg)
Yeah, amibay can be a private club.
In that case, it should be clearly stated, people admited after trial or sponsorship, and anyone not complying with the rule could be kick out anytime. Amibay could have its own moral rule ("sell back to the community", "take a wife only in the community", etc), as long as it is not illegal.
The problem is you find most of the guys of amibay in ebay too (with another nickname). How strange!!
Not too much criticism: i like amibay and i am ok with most of the ethic of amibay (i won't sell back with profiteering for instance as it is not my point with the amiga) but i don't like hypocrisy.
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The problem is you find most of the guys of amibay in ebay too (with another nickname). How strange!!
No, except for Evilbay, on EAB, Amiga.org, Amibay, my username is the same :)
@ Magnetic
Amiga Digital, who I know, is selling an A2630 with 4MB on Amibay: http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?t=11596 (http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?t=11596)
If that is something in your price range, 100 euro, then I'll pm him and see if he can contact you.
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Amiga Digital, who I know, is selling an A2630 with 4MB on Amibay: http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?t=11596 (http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?t=11596)
That'll be awesome in his A4000!
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Some of you guys crack me up. "no one's gonna tell me what I can sell something for"; "it'll be a cold day in hell..." blah blah blah. Kind of glad you Amibay naysayers are not part of our small but perfectly formed community (and it is a community by the way - a lot more than this place has turned into it seems).
Stay on eBay or wherever the hell you want to for your buying or selling. No one's asking you to come to Amibay (trust me - we're really not) but if you do, and you don't like the rules - then get lost - simples.
Tell you what - keep alienating Amibayers here and at this rate it'll be a cold day in hell before I donate here again for sure.
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Tell you what - keep alienating Amibayers here and at this rate it'll be a cold day in hell before I donate here again for sure.
Don't worry, I'll donate in your name.
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Some of you guys crack me up. "no one's gonna tell me what I can sell something for"; "it'll be a cold day in hell..." blah blah blah. Kind of glad you Amibay naysayers are not part of our small but perfectly formed community (and it is a community by the way - a lot more than this place has turned into it seems).
Stay on eBay or wherever the hell you want to for your buying or selling. No one's asking you to come to Amibay (trust me - we're really not) but if you do, and you don't like the rules - then get lost - simples.
Tell you what - keep alienating Amibayers here and at this rate it'll be a cold day in hell before I donate here again for sure.
I am starting to get really frightened by the reaction of some of my amibay fellows. Amibay is not a community on his own, it's a small part of the amiga community, in which amiga.org is a much bigger part.
Note also that amibay is not even 100% amiga related: is it not the vintage bay, including any kind of old computer?
We should all be friends here and show positive feelings to anyone using our outdated computers.
So please stop acting like you were in a sect or so.
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The fact that he sold the item through a friends account seem to have slipped some peoples minds (and that's what got me talking in the first place read my first post....) but anyway to all the people bagging Amibay delete your accounts if you have any and stay away. Also my Nic has never changed from EAB, Ebay, Amibay and Amiga.org and i have never used someone else account (although i should have just so the wife doesn't find out how much i spend.. :D) and although i don't sell much i do give stuff away sometimes.. (still thinking i shouldn't have given that A1200 away.... LOL second thoughts the second i said those words.... :D)
Anyway i wish him all the luck finding everything he needs.
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Xanxi, Amibay came out of Amibench which was pretty much for Amiga trading but Amibay evolved beyond just Amiga which is great but the site is still predominantly Amiga based although the more diversity the better and long may it grow to include more and more systems.
Your comment about Amibay not being a community on it's own, I kind of disagree with a bit but I know what you mean. I think the active members of Amibay who contribute to the other threads and sections (not just the trading side) feel they belong more to that community but also I agree we're all part of the same old Amiga community in general.
Amiga.org is bigger as far as user base goes but that doesn't mean better - it's quite a different place to Amibay really and both have their own place and I've been a member here a long time and have had great help and advice over the years from the folks here and some of those folks are the same folks that are slamming Amibay now which makes me unhappy.
We are one big community in the end and I'm more than happy to promote Amiga.org as much as I do Amibay because I do think this is a great place (and my comments about donations were formed of frustration more than anything) but I will absolutely not stand by idly without reply while my friends are lambasted from people who are miffed because they fell foul of the rules.
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I got banned from Amibay because I posted pictures of a A500 that were mirrored because I was too lazy to change my webcam settings.
Upon being asked to fix it I replied "blow me. If you cant tell what it is, youre retarded"
RUN BY TARDS, THERES YOUR PROOF.
Then I got an A2500 for 25$ and made 400$ off of it because I had 0 use for it other than selling the toasters and upgrades to people.
If people are willing to fork out money for stuff, how is it the sellers fault? Noone puts a gun to your head and goes BUY THAT SHIT EVEN THOUGH ITS BEEN MARKED UP FROM WHAT HE PAID FOR IT.
Next time, buy it first for lower and prevent the inflated resale, or shut the hell up.
Amibay is a bunch of pretentious doofs trying to make some super 1337 Amiga sale country club.
Yep.
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I got banned from Amibay because I posted pictures of a A500 that were mirrored because I was too lazy to change my webcam settings.
FAKE! SHOPPED! WaOwAEOOOO
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FAKE! SHOPPED! WaOwAEOOOO
I remember some of the messages I got were along the lines of
"howd you even manage to list the thing if you cant even take a proper picture"
so yeah, UP YOURS, AMIBAY
noone on ebay had a problem buying backwards Amiga and Commodore stuff.
005 AGIMA
WOOO
46 3RODOMMO)
etc.etc
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Man I thought people losing their shit over red's comment about that Tekmagic 060 card's price was hilarious.
WAT WAT WAAAAAAAT HOW DARE YOU SELL SOMETHING AND MAKE MONEY ON IT YOU ARE BANNZORED.
:-P
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Some of you guys crack me up. "no one's gonna tell me what I can sell something for"; "it'll be a cold day in hell..." blah blah blah. Kind of glad you Amibay naysayers are not part of our small but perfectly formed community (and it is a community by the way - a lot more than this place has turned into it seems).
Stay on eBay or wherever the hell you want to for your buying or selling. No one's asking you to come to Amibay (trust me - we're really not) but if you do, and you don't like the rules - then get lost - simples.
Tell you what - keep alienating Amibayers here and at this rate it'll be a cold day in hell before I donate here again for sure.
We crack you up? perfect example here. You talk about amiga.org alienating amibay people,thats silly. The quote you listed were my words i believe. I am a member of amiga.org but i don't speak for it and i'm not the admin here.. It was simply MY opinion on the subject.Don't turn this into a amiga.org thing it has nothing to do with it.
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I got banned from Amibay because I posted pictures of a A500 that were mirrored because I was too lazy to change my webcam settings.
Upon being asked to fix it I replied "blow me. If you cant tell what it is, youre retarded".....
Very funny, especially as your account on Amibay has been flagged "inactive" as you haven't posted or done anything over there since you signed up Sept 09? :lol:
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Very funny, especially as your account on Amibay has been flagged "inactive" as you haven't posted or done anything over there since you signed up Sept 09? :lol:
I think this happened a long time ago, thats all:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=509566&postcount=10
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@Arkhan - Honestly? Simpletons like you are a perfect example of who and what we don't want at Amibay. Stay happy in your seething pit of anger and mediocrity.
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OK, I think it's time I posted in here.
The only reason I am not called Merlin on here is because I changed ISPs and for some reason the account went FUBAR, so at the time I PM'd and asked Wayne to allow me to have the Merlin account back as it wasn't doing anything; he refused, saying that accounts don't get merged or reallocated, even though the Merlin account hadn't posted that much. That's the only reason I am not called Merlin and ended up being called WotTheFook on here. On other Amiga forums I am Merlin. Merlin is just too common a name for me to use it on eBay.
This doesn't need to deteriorate into some 'red vs blue' keyboard warrior war. A.org and AmiBay serve fundamentally different purposes for the retro community and it's frankly damaging and pointless to get into keyboard warrior flame wars about it. If you don't like what AmiBay is about, don't come to the site, what's hard about that? The sites walk different paths, it's that simple.
One key difference between AmiBay and a.org is that we try to provide a safe trading haven for our members, this is a major part of our site and is a relatively small part of A.org by comparison. We try to provide a service to our members that is free from exploitation and scalping by traders and it is this very point that started this whole thread. It's been dug over enough, so I am not going to comment on it.
One point I will make though; we don't allow trolling or flaming on AmiBay and from what I've read in this thread, a lot of the a.org posters in here wouldn't last very long.
I would ask that AmiBayers let this matter go, as the arguing back and forth isn't doing anything productive, so let the two sites agree to differ and go their separate ways.
Happy trails............
WotTheFook aka Merlin
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Very funny, especially as your account on Amibay has been flagged "inactive" as you haven't posted or done anything over there since you signed up Sept 09? :lol:
pretty sure I didn't sign up as Arkhan on the banned one, especially considering I sold my A500 stuff my first semester of college which was before 09...
@Arkhan - Honestly? Simpletons like you are a perfect example of who and what we don't want at Amibay. Stay happy in your seething pit of anger and mediocrity.
Thats cool, all the good amiga junk is either here, or on ebay.
PS: your moms mediocre. dick.
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PS: your moms mediocre. dick.
If this is a sign of where this thread is heading, I'm out. See ya later :)
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If this is a sign of where this thread is heading, I'm out. See ya later :)
awww, but you're going to miss all the fun.
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Upon being asked to fix it I replied "blow me. If you cant tell what it is, youre retarded"
PS: your moms mediocre. dick.
I suspect if you have been banned from somewhere, Amibay or otherwise, I doubt it was anything to do with your photographs being mirrored...
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I would ask that AmiBayers let this matter go, as the arguing back and forth isn't doing anything productive, so let the two sites agree to differ and go their separate ways.
Sounds like the AmiBayers don't get to flame or troll enough at home so they're taking advantage of Amiga.org's less fascist moderation style! Oh noes!
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I suspect if you have been banned from somewhere, Amibay or otherwise, I doubt it was anything to do with your photographs being mirrored...
wow, did you come up with that all by yourself!?
GET THIS MAN A MEDAL.
:roflmao:
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Sounds like the AmiBayers don't get to flame or troll enough at home so they're taking advantage of Amiga.org's less fascist moderation style! Oh noes!
Well, you know what they say: "When in Rome..." :roflmao:
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wow, did you come up with that all by yourself!?
GET THIS MAN A MEDAL.
:roflmao:
Awesome! Can I have a gold one?
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Awesome! Can I have a gold one?
The golden helmet award! CONGRATS
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Wow, this thread totally made me LOL. I remember meeting Magnetic a few years ago, and he seemed a decent fellow. But in any case, reading this thread, I would never purchase anything from AmiBay after seeing some of the comments from their users here. Go ahead guys, keep posting. See how many more bridges you can burn.
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Wow, this thread totally made me LOL. I remember meeting Magnetic a few years ago, and he seemed a decent fellow. But in any case, reading this thread, I would never purchase anything from AmiBay after seeing some of the comments from their users here. Go ahead guys, keep posting. See how many more bridges you can burn.
I love how they try and dictate what you can and can't do with the things you own once you bought them.
Maybe Apple should consider the Amibay model for it's products.
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chiark
How can 1 person tell another you cannot sell this item you bought here or here or why or why not? What if someone needs to make rent? (happens alot in amiga ville and people sell amiga sh9t) hello..
:(
Did you resell the accelerator on amibay for the same price that you paid for it or did you put it on another auction site without a fixed price?
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All I have to say is
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Been keeping a beady eye on this thread and reckon it's time for a few words of wisdom. I reckon as one who as visited Amiga.org on a couple of occasions and having been to AmiBay once, I can offer a fair and totally unbiased perspective on this little matter... :)
Here's my two bobs worth anyway... :)
Amiga.org: A place where you are free to wander the hallowed halls of accademia & great learning at will, where you can sit in on any class you choose and say your bit no matter how unrelated it is to the subject in hand, without fear of being escorted off the premisses.
A place where the moderators/carers gently point you in the right direction when you have a sudden bought of uncontrollable Tourettes Syndrome they sit you down in a nice quite room with some soothing words of wisdom until it passes, then set you merrily on your way again with a nice lollipop to roam freely once again at will. :)
Amibay: A dank and dark institution where the moderators/wardens if they find you even setting foot outside your cell or if they even think your thinking of wandering off freely down it's creepy & dangerous corridors, will soon have you locked up in solitary confinement never to be seen or heard from again. :(
A place where in order to sell your warez you have to have your background thoroughly checked by the KJB and FBI and spend at least six months in Guantanamo Bay before you can even become a member. Once a member though anything you do manage to sell can have you banned or become one of the vanished if it's found out later on that you once stepped on a crack in the pavement or if it's found out your pet dog once had a bout of worms. :(
There we have it a totally fair and unbiased view from an innocent bystander who has no real opinion on this matter anyway and would never even think for one minute to get involved in such a thing... :D
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Been keeping a beady eye on this thread and reckon it's time for a few words of wisdom. I reckon as one who as visited Amiga.org on a couple of occasions and having been to AmiBay once, I can offer a fair and totally unbiased perspective on this little matter... :)
Here's my two bobs worth anyway... :)
Amiga.org: A place where you are free to wander the hallowed halls of accademia & great learning at will, where you can sit in on any class you choose and say your bit no matter how unrelated it is to the subject in hand, without fear of being escorted off the premisses.
A place where the moderators/carers gently point you in the right direction when you have a sudden bought of uncontrollable Tourettes Syndrome they sit you down in a nice quite room with some soothing words of wisdom until it passes, then set you merrily on your way again with a nice lollipop to roam freely once again at will. :)
Amibay: A dank and dark institution where the moderators/wardens if they find you even setting foot outside your cell or if they even think your thinking of wandering off freely down it's creepy & dangerous corridors, will soon have you locked up in solitary confinement never to be seen or heard from again. :(
A place where in order to sell your warez you have to have your background thoroughly checked by the KJB and FBI and spend at least six months in Guantanamo Bay before you can even become a member. Once a member though anything you do manage to sell can have you banned or become one of the vanished if it's found out later on that you once stepped on a crack in the pavement or if it's found out your pet dog once had a bout of worms. :(
There we have it a totally fair and unbiased view from an innocent bystander who has no real opinion on this matter anyway and would never even think for one minute to get involved in such a thing... :D
I was wondering why you did not show up here yet :D
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Amibay is like 1984, but for Amigas.
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Did you resell the accelerator on amibay for the same price that you paid for it or did you put it on another auction site without a fixed price?
l
countzer
Sure, no problem. I'll be happy to state it. I got it for $125 and it was sold for $199.
BTW I had the board over a month before selling and it didnt suit my needs. How is that difficult to digest?
Thats NOT the point. The point is how can some entity tell an amiga person when to sell what to sell, how to sell, who to sell to, and where to sell it/ Or buy for that matter?
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Well guys I'm glad I started this thread. Iniitially it was to find parts for my new a4000d build. However, I'm glad that over 1k people will have viewed this thread and the politics of amibay have been exposed. (BTW I said "fascists" not socialists.. and whatever moron posted the insulting a anti-american statement really deserves the abuse from Arkhan below. I'm sure i"M FAR more educated than you are, so save your foolish comments.
Dont you guys get it? With your arrogant, elitist, i'm a real amigan your not, i'm european you are an american so you dumb mentality you BRING OUT this in people. You FORCE people to lose their cool with you due to your poor attitude. Especially in a small community like this. You really should be ashamed of yourselves and should rename "amibay" to something without AMI because not letting people have FREEDOM OF CHOICE you dont deserve to be called AMIGA anything.
Man I WISH I had the PMs from you so the real Amiga people can see the people like you who rule Amibay are tyrants. Now, whats funny is , in the start of the thread one of the mods there said he would try to help me.. I have not heard one thing from anyone from amibay in regards to my "case"
He was cool, but the other amibay people that have come forth have exposed themselves and their true agendas. To form a small elite boys club of amiga fanboys who want to control what other Amiga people do in the marketplace. This is obvious now.
And I'll tell you this I'LL TAKE EBAY OR AMIBAY ANY DAY OF THE WEEK! Ebay has the best buyer protection you can have. BElieve me as a seller as well, I've lost a few cases to shady buyers who said their board didnt work or whatever, got a refund and kept the merchandise! So ebay is very protected to buyers.
Its a real CRYING SHAME that the once great AMIBENCH, which was a cool community website for regular guys trading amigear. Now, its some kind of weird twisted, maniacal, big brother, egotistical trading place. That is such a shame to see an amiga site turned into this. How lame...
Originally Posted by Arkhan:
PS: your moms mediocre. dick.
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Arkan: please dont talk like this on aorg. I know those people bring this out of you. But its not appropriate and it marginalizes you. But I thought it was funny :)
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Amibay guys I: Your treatment of me a long time 15 year amiga veteran has been exposed! Your tactics have been Exposed. The TRUTH about amibay is EXPOSED. Are you happy? good job because 1000 people reading this i'm sure WONT want any part of amibay.
@ OldsmobileMike
Hey man how have you been? Thanks for the support..
@ Tone...
You are very funny lulz
@ Franko
GREAT POST!
@ Zeebee
I LOVE THAT AMIBAY Image in your sig.. AWESOME!
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BTW Wasagi, you are "bowing out" becausese YOU are the one who caused this problem by banning me. Man I WISH I had the PMs from you so the real Amiga people can see the people like you who rule Amibay are tyrants.
Wasagai said:
If this is a sign of where this thread is heading, I'm out. See ya later
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Yeah when the fire gets hot you get out of the kitchen. YOU caused this problem and are being exposed. Your treatment of me a long time 15 year amiga veteran has been exposed! Your tactics have been Exposed. The TRUTH about amibay is EXPOSED. Are you happy? good job because 1000 people reading this i'm sure WONT want any part of amibay.
I said I'd leave this thread however these comments have me concerned for the right or wrong reasons. Please PM me what I have done to cause this as I am not aware of anything.
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Wasagi
I'm really sorry man if it wasnt you who banned me. i cant access my PM there as i'm banned. Im truly sorry if it wasnt you... :(
I edited my post and removed your name.. sorry again pal
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Wasagi
I'm really sorry man if it wasnt you who banned me. i cant access my PM there as i'm banned. Im truly sorry if it wasnt you... :(
I edited my post and removed your name.. sorry again pal
I am just a normal member of at Amibay, not a mod or admin etc
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I am just a normal member of at Amibay, not a mod or admin etc
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Franko gets it.
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I'm sure i"M FAR more educated than you are
I shouldn't, but.. Really.. I mean..
:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
That's one of the best quotes ever!!!!
desiv
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desiv
I would love to know whats so funny? What the rushed punctuation? Get a life, if thats all you have to contribute to this thread, you might as well go troll on ann
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This thread seems to reveal the overall problem of the Amiga "community" these days.
It's sad. Seems like nobody's looking at the big picture; in the eyes of the big public
we're basically a dead and buried platform and this sort of boyclub vs boyclub
warmongering and sensationalism doesn't do any good for any of us.
Amiga was part of the big public & mainstream and we're the last ones left of the huge
userbase the Amiga once had. If Amiga is to completely vanish from existence, is this
what we want to be remembered of as a community? Does a community with this kind
of capability of internal self-hate and flaming be able to function as a community at all?
These are the questions I ask myself when, after hours of having fun and enjoying
of using one of my Amigas I turn to read Amibay and Amiga.org and find this thread.
Was it like this back in the day? BBS vs BBS? I honestly don't remember, although
as an ex-sysop I tried to co-operate with other BBS systems as thoroughly as
possible since power comes from numbers not individuals.
I approve Amibay and it's rules and philosophy of existence. I also approve Amiga.org,
although I haven't been here often since I found Amibay.
The needs of the many outweight the needs of the few. If we are but a few
smaller communities within an Amiga "community" there will never be many of us.
My 0.05 cents of worth and purely offtopic as what comes to a WTB-thread.
Sincere apologies.
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I think the Amiga as we knew it is dead and never coming back, so everyone should get on board with the rest of the 'old ass computer' groups and live it up like they used to, instead of trying to over do what they can do with the amiga.
I also think sites that dictate how youre allowed to sell your stuff are retarded and whoever came up with it should be tied to a tree and have rocks thrown at their face.
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Let me clarify my smiley. It was late, and as a card carrying "grumpy old fart," I needed my sleep... ;-)
I wasn't commenting at the punctuation mistake. Those are no big deal. They happen all the time, and I'll make several I'm sure in this post. ;-)
It was the irony (sweet sweet chocolate covered irony.... mmmm..) of the mistakes (not just that one, although it's location to the statement was too good) in relation to the statement about being "more educated."
Now, I'm not a fan of condesension in general.
I don't think someone's level of education has any bearing on the matter.
But, you have to admit, pairing that type of statement with myriad mistakes in a post is funny...
Let me put it this way, if one of the admins of Amibay had posted that type of response, what would you have thought of it??
But I'm not pointing out anything about you, just the post.. I post stupid things frequently. When pointed out (after a bit of a breather), I can appreciate that it happened. Doesn't mean anything about me as a person, just that I made a dumb/funny/whatever post.
I just thought that the particular post was ironic and funny...
As for Amibay, I'm a member. I'm also a member of lots of other sites...
I've done things that I've been talked to there for breaking the rules...
I don't agree with all of their rules; and I do think that some of their rules are too strict...
However, funny thing about that is that they are rules.. Rules which are posted and I was not only asked but implored to read before making deals there...
So when I ran afoul of the rules, my reaction wasn't to say "Bite me fascists!" (Not saying you did that of course!)
It was to take responsibility for my own mistake in breaking the rules and to apologize.
If I went into a library and started laughing out loud and was approached by the librarian, I wouldn't be upset with that person. I certainly wouldn't complain to other people about how crazy it is at the library because they kicked me out of the library for violating the rules..
I might suggest that the library consider loosening up their policies...
I might stop going to that library...
I might complain about the rules of the library.
But I'm not going to complain about them enforcing the rules that I was (or could/should have been) aware of, but broke anyway...
That's not "them," that's "me."
IMHO...
When I first joined amibay, I thought it was e-bay for the Amiga. I learned very quickly that it isn't. There I things I like about their ideology. There are things I don't. I've come to accept them for what they are (same with e-bay).
I think there's room for them in this community, which I disagree is dying.
Please proceed to tear apart my post with reckless abandon.
:-)
desiv
p.s. Yes, it was pretty bad, even back on the BBS days. I remember the fights on FIDONET about memory protection involving Matt Dillon and others... There have always been passionate Amiga cliques...
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rules are made to be broken.
especially when the rules are frigging queer
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In the middle of all of this, I would just like to ask a serious question that's been bugging me over the last couple of days that this thread has been running.
@ Admins
Just what did Doomy do on here that managed to get him banned, since trolling, flaming, abusive language and ripping members off aren't reasons to get banned on here, apparently....??
I know that Doomy's Greatgossip site was a piece of work at the time it was out there, but some of the comments on here are getting damn close to the same language that Doomy used on that site.
@ Arkhan
If you took the time out from trolling and stopped to re-read your posts, you might realise that comments like "rules are made to be broken" and "rules are frigging queer" just about sums up a lot of what is wrong in the US right now... If that's really your attitude, then I hope that your soap has a rope on the end of it when you break one rule too many and end up in the showers in the big house.....
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In the middle of all of this, I would just like to
@ Arkhan
If you took the time out from trolling and stopped to re-read your posts, you might realise that comments like "rules are made to be broken" and "rules are frigging queer" just about sums up a lot of what is wrong in the US right now... If that's really your attitude, then I hope that your soap has a rope on the end of it when you break one rule too many and end up in the showers in the big house.....
First, if you're going to quote me, quote me properly. I said especially if the rules are queer. I didn't say all rules are queer. Some rules are great! Others, like the Amibay crap, suck. They deserve to be laughed at and made fun of.
If you draw a parallel to the entire US country, and making fun of a shitty Amiga sale website, you're dumb and should quit talking and trying to win arguments. Go talk about something you can handle.
The US was founded on breaking rules, and theres things basically saying "if it sucks, fix it" in the constitution. Duh?
If you took the time to quit being a pretentious knob, you might realize what im saying is both abrasive and true. If you can't handle it, you're a pansy. The worlds a bitch, learn to cope. If you want spoon fed happy statements, and eloquent master thesis BS on a forum, you should get yourself a nice reality check.
also, no, whats wrong with the US today is lazy tools that think theyre entitled to the world sit on their asses and reproduce all day and accomplish nothing. Then they suck up all our money with welfare and freebies because theyre too worthless to get off their asses and make something of themselves. Nothing says 'WE'S PO' AS FUCKS MAN' like making ANOTHER kid.
and then, pompous morons think how much you own and what stuff you own is what life is all about so they rack up debt buying giant TVs and cars and houses they cant afford because all they did in highschool was smoke dope and play football, and now theyre 35 and can't do anything except mop floors at wal mart.
GO ECONOMY GO.
people like me who don't put up with bullshit, and try to bring about change are whats RIGHT with the US.
If you don't see that, congratulations! You're part of the problem. Leave.
Oh wait, you're from the UK. You don't even know what you're talking about, so shut up. I doubt you've ever even been here, so you're just spewing ignorant horseshit.
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GO ECONOMY GO?
Do you have Alzheimers or something? Did the whole General Motors bankruptcy thing pass you by? Did the whole near-collapse of the mortgage market in the USA through Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae not reach your ears? Does the US and the UK trying to print their way our of money problems not strike you as flawed?
The US (and the UK , for that matter) economy is nowhere near recovered yet, the whole thing is too fragile and they haven't fixed the "bankers playing in the futures casino and winning whatever happens" scenario yet. OK, I suppose 'breaking rules' was all part of that, so you do maybe have a partial point.
If fixing the US economy is as easy as the 5-minute "if it sucks, fix it" way you seem to think will solve the problems - please don't think I'm xenophobic as I am not, however, if it was that easy, wouldn't Obama have fixed it by now? The Western economies as a whole are deeply screwed right now, right across the board and no European government has an answer to it, let alone the US.
Pretentious? No, I just happen to be well read and educated and I don't see that I need to descend to your level of juvenile comments to make my point. Trolling doesn't necessarily make you right..
Oh, and if you think that Amibay is 1984, you might want to consider updating your website in your signature - it looks like it's not been updated since 1995.....
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GO ECONOMY GO?
Do you have Alzheimers or something? Did the whole General Motors bankruptcy thing pass you by? Did the whole near-collapse of the mortgage market in the USA through Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae not reach your ears? Does the US and the UK trying to print their way our of money problems not strike you as flawed?
Sarcasm. You should try it! Put down the tea, and learn to read. I know its hard since you're too busy saving the queen and all, but man. That statement wouldn't have even slipped past a 6 year old.
YOU ON THE OTHER HAND, IT FLEW SO HIGH OVER YOUR HEAD IT LEFT THE ATMOSPHERE.
The US (and the UK , for that matter) economy is nowhere near recovered yet, the whole thing is too fragile and they haven't fixed the "bankers playing in the futures casino and winning whatever happens" scenario yet. OK, I suppose 'breaking rules' was all part of that, so you do maybe have a partial point.
Duh?
If fixing the US economy is as easy as the 5-minute "if it sucks, fix it" way you seem to think will solve the problems - please don't think I'm xenophobic as I am not, however, if it was that easy, wouldn't Obama have fixed it by now? The Western economies as a whole are deeply screwed right now, right across the board and no European government has an answer to it, let alone the US.
I didn't say it was that simple. But all great things start with one step.
Pretentious? No, I just happen to be well read and educated and I don't see that I need to descend to your level of juvenile comments to make my point. Trolling doesn't necessarily make you right..
So well educated that you miss blatant sarcasm, and make an entire post based off of that, complete with stupid assumptions. Good job!
Just because I disagree abrasively doesn't mean I am trolling by the way.
and saying you're well read and educated makes you pretentious by itself.
It also makes you stupid, given how your entire post I am replying to turned out.
Oh, and if you think that Amibay is 1984, you might want to consider updating your website in your signature - it looks like it's not been updated since 1995.....
SO WELL READ THAT YOU MISSED A GEORGE ORWELL 1984 BOOK REFERENCE. DESPITE IT BEING REFERENCED TWICE
good lord man, you hit the fail button pretty hard on the alarm clock this morning didn't you?
also if you're going to resort to insulting my homebrew game programming website, I think YOU are trolling, and officially forfeit all credibility in this thread. Kindly gtfo.
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"Nothing says 'WE'S PO' AS FUCKS MAN' like making ANOTHER kid."
Could someone kindly direct this jackass back to the anime pr0n forum.
And yes, your website is fail.
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^^^
Obvious troll is obviously trolling. I guess that there really aren't any rules on here these days and I am amazed that a Mod or Admin hasn't stepped in to moderate or even close this thread.
Congratulations, anarchy rules on here now, I hope you are all happy.
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Could someone kindly direct this jackass back to the anime pr0n forum.
So are you saying you DON'T think white trash on welfare is a problem?
Sounds like maybe I hit a nerve with you. Do you have something to share with us?
Are you currently saving up for a double-wide for the rest of your kin?
Whats with all you sissies that want every post to be a frigging Tolstoy masterpiece, and if its not you just pee your panties and complain like a bunch of tightwads.
And yes, your website is fail.
Considering it helped me sell my game I made, and it gets pretty good hits...and making it look like it looks was on purpose (To fit the time frame of the systems in question).
ID SAY ITS A SUCCESS.
BRING IT OUT SUCKA'S YOUR ATTACKS ARE USELESS.
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Congratulations, anarchy rules on here now, I hope you are all happy.
It's all thanks to your homeland! THANKS!
wait you're slow and will probably not comprehend what I am referring to. Let me assist, friend.
(http://static.pcinpact.com/images/bd/news/81461-sex-pistol-anarchy-in-the-uk.jpg)
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ARKHANARCHY iN THE UK
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@ Arkhan
Does your mother normally let you use the computer and Internet unsupervised? Would you like me to contact the Jerry Springer Show and book a place for you? Or would you prefer Maury and some therapy?
To troll everybody on here is a rare skill; you must be frothing at the mouth, wearing a long-sleeved jacket in a room with mattress wallpaper.... are you sure you aren't Doomy under another name?
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@ Arkhan
Does your mother normally let you use the computer and Internet unsupervised? Would you like me to contact the Jerry Springer Show and book a place for you? Or would you prefer Maury and some therapy?
To troll everybody on here is a rare skill; you must be frothing at the mouth, wearing a long-sleeved jacket in a room with mattress wallpaper.... are you sure you aren't Doomy under another name?
it took you that long to write such a lame reply? Is that what you do when you've made a total ass of yourself by missing all those references your well read self should have caught?
If this is the best reply you can come up with, I think you officially fail at life and should just go back to your AmiBay castle and touch yourself to the site rules thread.
its pretty re-goddamn-tarded to go DOES YOUR MOMA LET YOU USE THE PUTER ALONE? when you just made fun of my website/homebrew COMPUTER GAME PROGRAMMING one post prior.
do YOU have alzheimers? Did you forget about that? Unfortunately for you, Im not some uneducated retard. I'm sorry I talk in an abrasive, obnoxious manner that makes you spit your tea out in disgust.
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Arkhan,
When was the last time you read A.org's moderation policies?
"Rules were made to be broken", eh? I'll leave it to the Moderators on here to point out your level of epic fail, on so many levels.....
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=6577
http://www.amiga.org/index.php?pageid=moderation_policy
I'm out of here... I have better things to do....
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Arkhan,
When was the last time you read A.org's moderation policies?
"Rules were made to be broken", eh? I'll leave it to the Moderators on here to point out your level of epic fail, on so many levels.....
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=6577
http://www.amiga.org/index.php?pageid=moderation_policy
I'm out of here... I have better things to do....
Hey chief, you broke the rules the second you started trolling and insulting too.
MAYBE YOU SHOULD GET OUTTA HERE AND STAY OUT.
at least I came into this war knowing I was breaking rules (failing).
You on the other hand came in as AMIBAY CRUSADER, THE WELL READ SOLDIER AGAINST ALL WHO OPPOSE.
and then you failed like 32894234 times by missing basic references to culture and books, on top of just being stupid.
good job.
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Right, you 'orrible lot. Simmer down and knock the flaming on the head.
How the hell a simple "want to buy" thread got so messed up... *shakes head*
Seriously though. Enough. If this carries on, the thread will be locked and infractions given out accordingly.
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@magnetic
I've got a 3630 if you're still looking for a CPU board, but I don't know if it works. Yours for shipping if you want it.
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Obviously you guys cannot take a hint.
Thread closed, pending moderation.
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You guys made such a mess in here I just couldn't be bothered to edit out your flaming. 15 or so useless trolling/flame posts deleted, which was the bare minimum that could be shown to be in violation of the TOS. There are others but if I were to delete every off-topic post in this thread, it would be virtually empty save for the opening post and we'd doubtless be accused of draconian censorship. So I'm trusting us all to behave like adults.
That said, unless you have the stuff to sell that the OP asked for I'd suggest you take your complaints about other sites to the relevant people there, rather than start a flamewar here.
Thread re-opened.
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Desiv
Wtf are you talking about? So OT and so self indulgent..
@ Tone
Thanks man! PM Sent :)
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