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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: jimbo60640 on December 09, 2003, 09:58:16 AM

Title: Need CD burner for 2000
Post by: jimbo60640 on December 09, 2003, 09:58:16 AM

Desperately seeking a CD-r/rw for my beloved cherished old faithful Amiga/Toaster sys. Got load of stuff to move over to my Mac and floppies are driving me nuts! Any help/info appreciated. :-o

Title: Re: Need CD burner for 2000
Post by: Roj on December 09, 2003, 10:18:27 AM

Pricewatch.com (http://www.pricewatch.com)

Title: Re: Need CD burner for 2000
Post by: jimbo60640 on December 09, 2003, 10:21:31 AM

Yikes-- I'm lookin' at it now. Thanks!

Title: Re: Need CD burner for 2000
Post by: jimbo60640 on December 09, 2003, 10:25:29 AM

I'm having trouble finding ANYTHING Amiga-related. Search suggestions for this site? :-?

Title: Re: Need CD burner for 2000
Post by: jimbo60640 on December 09, 2003, 10:27:01 AM

Having trouble finding anything Amiga-related. Search suggestions for this site? Whae should I look? :-?

Title: Re: Need CD burner for 2000
Post by: MrZammler on December 09, 2003, 10:27:47 AM

Want kind of interface do you have in your A2000? (IDE ? SCSI)? Just get a PC cd-rw for your kind of interface and you'll be ok.

You'll then need some burner app, like MakeCD.

Let us know of your system specs, for more info.

Title: Re: Need CD burner for 2000
Post by: jimbo60640 on December 09, 2003, 10:33:19 AM

Hi, MrZ-

Got an A2000HD. SCSI.

What 'bout connectors/interfacing?

Title: Re: Need CD burner for 2000
Post by: whabang on December 09, 2003, 10:51:17 AM

Any SCSI CD-RW drive should do as long as it's complying with set standards...

Title: Re: Need CD burner for 2000
Post by: jimbo60640 on December 09, 2003, 11:01:48 AM

Excccccccellent! Thanks....

Title: Re: Need CD burner for 2000
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on December 09, 2003, 11:04:19 AM

keep in mind that these burners are probably SCSI-2 and won't work on a plain A2000 (w. SCSI)

Title: Re: Need CD burner for 2000
Post by: Cyberus on December 09, 2003, 12:07:07 PM

like, how many threads?

Title: Re: Need CD burner for 2000
Post by: jimbo60640 on December 09, 2003, 10:20:17 PM

OK, kids.......

Anybody know where I can find a compatible SCSI-1 burner and a tad of antique software?

Title: Re: Need CD burner for 2000
Post by: Matt_H on December 09, 2003, 11:02:47 PM

What version of Workbench/AmigaOS are you running?

Title: Re: Need CD burner for 2000
Post by: jimbo60640 on December 10, 2003, 12:02:27 AM

Workbench 37.71 Kickstart 37.175

Title: Re: Need CD burner for 2000
Post by: jimbo60640 on December 10, 2003, 12:32:13 AM

2.04

Title: Re: Need CD burner for 2000
Post by: jimbo60640 on December 10, 2003, 01:06:42 AM

Sorry-- I'm affraid I've cluttered up the place with a few too many dup.icate postings..... I'd be more than happy to remove excess, if I knew how.

Title: Re: Need CD burner for 2000
Post by: melott on December 10, 2003, 05:46:09 AM

First question ... are you SCSI -I or II
External SCSI CD R/W drives are not that hard to find.
( I just sold one on EBay not long ago)

Anyway, its my understanding that most SCSI
devices are backward compatable.
AFAIK a SCSI II device should be compatable on
a SCSI I controller. For CD Roms it should be easy
but for harddrives the compatability  can get
alot more picky.

Title: Re: Need CD burner for 2000
Post by: jimbo60640 on December 10, 2003, 07:40:17 AM

Thanks, Melott! I be SCSI-I. I'm still windering about connect cable----for A2000. But, your info VERY helpful. There is a god. Maybe I can't see the light yet, but there's the damn tunnel. Thanks again.

Stay vigilant. :-D

Title: Re: Need CD burner for 2000
Post by: FlagshipAmigaLover on December 25, 2003, 11:59:14 AM

Hi jimbo60640 ,

So, you wanna burn Amiga CD-Rs, well first make sure that your "beloved cherished old faithful Amiga" is up to spec.  You will need the following items installed in your Amiga 2000 (Toaster) computer before you can successfully record files onto a CD-R disc:  a 68040 or 68060 board, at least 16 megs of fast ram, a very fast hard drive (7200 RPM or faster with at least a 512k buffer), and a SLOW CD-RW drive (2X to 8X), and CD burning software.  I recommend MakeCD.  Also, I recommend that you use the 3" Mini CD-Rs and NOT the 5" CD-Rs for recording Amiga software onto.  That's what I use, it works great.     :-D

Title: Re: Need CD burner for 2000
Post by: Effy on December 25, 2003, 01:49:51 PM

Don't agree on that. A 68030 will do just fine to start with, a 68040 is not required for this. 16 Mb memory is then indeed the minimum. And the MakeCD program that is referred to is far from 'antique' !!!
So you have not many options. You can try to find an ancient scsi cdrewriter, external or internal, and connect it to your scsi controller. Upgrading to kickstart 3.1 might be better but I don't know if this is required. Another option is the following : you get yourself an IDE-to-scsi adapter, made to connect an IDE harddisc to a scsi controller. It's not very cheap but the IDE devices you can connect ARE !! No problem to get a 52x CDrewriter for 40 euro's !!!
About the burning speed now. Ofcourse it will be way slower than on modern pc's but there is also the safe option of 'burn proof' that all new cdrewriters have, so that it won't matter how fast or slow your processor is !! I don't know if this means that you can burn with a 52x CDrewriter on a 68000 A500 with an IDE controller, but it will certainly work on a 68030 !!!

Title: Re: Need CD burner for 2000
Post by: Framiga on December 25, 2003, 02:57:06 PM

. . . .mhhh!!! someone sounds "strange" to me! IMHO

Probably i'm beginning to be paranoid? . . .could be.

Ciao

Title: Re: Need CD burner for 2000
Post by: FlagshipAmigaLover on December 27, 2003, 10:09:28 PM

Hi Effy,

Quote

Don't agree on that. A 68030 will do just fine to start with, a 68040 is not required for this.

That is true, but with a 68030 board you could only burn CD-Rs at 2X, maybe 4X if your lucky.     :-P

Title: Re: Need CD burner for 2000
Post by: Dr_Righteous on December 28, 2003, 07:11:40 AM

Most A2000 systems came with the GVP HC+8 card, which is SCSI-2 compatable... You'll want a drive that has 4M+ cache built in... I can't comment on how well it'll work with the stock 68000 CPU tho... I usually write CDs for transferring TO my Amigas... Never tried using my writer in em.

Title: Re: Need CD burner for 2000
Post by: FlagshipAmigaLover on December 28, 2003, 07:31:07 AM

Hi Dr_Righteous,

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Most A2000 systems came with the GVP HC+8 card,

You are wrong about that.  Most Amiga 2000 systems came with Commodore's A2091 board and a Quantum 40 meg or 50 meg hard drive.     :roll:

Title: Re: Need CD burner for 2000
Post by: Dr_Righteous on December 28, 2003, 07:53:57 AM

Let me rephrase then... Every A2000HD I've seen had the GVP HC+8 (and I've seen 5 of them)...

Title: Re: Need CD burner for 2000
Post by: iamaboringperson on December 28, 2003, 08:02:50 AM

@Dr_Righteous


Don't argue with DoomMaster  :-x

Title: Re: Need CD burner for 2000
Post by: amiga2000power on December 28, 2003, 09:19:36 AM

Quote

FlagshipAmigaLover wrote:
Hi Dr_Righteous,

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Most A2000 systems came with the GVP HC+8 card,

You are wrong about that.  Most Amiga 2000 systems came with Commodore's A2091 board and a Quantum 40 meg or 50 meg hard drive.     :roll:

You don't know what you're talking about! My Amiga 2000HD Professional computer came with a 40 Mb Seagate Harddrive!  :-D